At first I thought the old man talked too much, but then I learned some interesting details about mine gatame and realized I was mistaken. Thanks for the lesson!!
This is very informative Sensei Steve. I haven’t competed in 6 years and I frequently used Mune for Ippon. I have a promotional tourney this weekend and your suggestions will be helpful! Thanks again!
Robert, my computer has been in the shop and I am just now getting at answering comments. Sorry for the delay. If the advice isn't too late-stay with the fundamentals and what works for you. As my coach Maurice Allan told me; "Make the technique work for you." Mune Gatame is a great pin with a great ratio ratio of success.
Damn another great video thank you for sharing your knowledge of grappling and submissions keep it coming please and thank you again.p.s.sorry for the language
What does 'uchikomi' and 'tachikomi' mean in literal translation? Because obviously 'uchi' doesn't mean 'inside' in this case, but what are you 'applying' in these cases?
Uchikomi is interpreted as "repeated hitting" onto something. The older term Butsukari interprets to the same thing. Tachikomi translates to "standing repetitions" and as you may know implies throwing practice. The term Nagekomi is more often used as the name for throwing practice and translates to "throwing repetitions."
I think they should go back to 30secpnds, because 20seconds isn't long wnough. If it were my way i'd have osaekomi not be applicable for a victory because the fact that they can't move doesn't gaurantee a hypothetical victory in battle, but if osaekomi has to be legible for victory i think it should be 30seconds at least. A lot of the time ypu'll see people get really close to getting out of a hold but they still lose because it's been 20seconds. I also think you shouldn't get a score for a temporary hold down. I don't think me throwing for waza ari then holding them for 10seconds should give me a victory; i haven't earnt it
I agree about the 30-second Osaekomi. The contest rules changed over the years. Originally, it was left to the referee to decide when to call Ippon for a hold-down. The rule was changed to 1 minute for Ippon sometime in the early 1930's. The time was shortened to 30 seconds in 1950 or 1951 I think. Then, in 2004 (not sure, but I think it was 2004), the time was changed to 25 seconds. The latest change to 20 seconds was done in 2008 or 2012 I think. It looks to me that the IJF is trying to legislate pins out of Judo.
welcomematstevescott i can't say i'll miss them. I love osaekomi waza, but i don't think they should legislate a victory unless the opponent' spirit is broken to the point of submission. It's lke if you watched brazlian jiujtsu, they'll stayed in pins for a while slowly escaping which would've been a loss in judo. I don't want osaekomi to be neglected because they are vital techniques, but i try often not to win by pinfall because it doesn't feel right. It's almost like a TKO when the fighter who lost doesn't get a say n whether they carry on or not. As i said, if there is a victory by pinfall it should be 30seconds. But if they do legislate them out i'll be happy about it. I also hope that they allow ground fighting to continue for a bit longer as well. Especially since IJF standing games tend to be boring until something finally happens. I also think encouraging ground work will lead to more ippon victories and can help prevent point hording and realy defensive play
At first I thought the old man talked too much, but then I learned some interesting details about mine gatame and realized I was
mistaken. Thanks for the lesson!!
This is very informative Sensei Steve. I haven’t competed in 6 years and I frequently used Mune for Ippon. I have a promotional tourney this weekend and your suggestions will be helpful! Thanks again!
Robert, my computer has been in the shop and I am just now getting at answering comments. Sorry for the delay. If the advice isn't too late-stay with the fundamentals and what works for you. As my coach Maurice Allan told me; "Make the technique work for you." Mune Gatame is a great pin with a great ratio ratio of success.
Damn another great video thank you for sharing your knowledge of grappling and submissions keep it coming please and thank you again.p.s.sorry for the language
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0:20 that explains why it's not in Kodokan Judo, Kano-shihan's book
That's right. Some of the names of different techniques have changed through the years and this is a good example of that.
Isn't there a risk of sangaku jime when putting the arm between the legs?
Depends on the situation, as well as flexibility of the athlete trying the Sankaku Jime, but it isn't usually a problem.
What does 'uchikomi' and 'tachikomi' mean in literal translation? Because obviously 'uchi' doesn't mean 'inside' in this case, but what are you 'applying' in these cases?
Uchikomi is interpreted as "repeated hitting" onto something. The older term Butsukari interprets to the same thing. Tachikomi translates to "standing repetitions" and as you may know implies throwing practice. The term Nagekomi is more often used as the name for throwing practice and translates to "throwing repetitions."
I think they should go back to 30secpnds, because 20seconds isn't long wnough. If it were my way i'd have osaekomi not be applicable for a victory because the fact that they can't move doesn't gaurantee a hypothetical victory in battle, but if osaekomi has to be legible for victory i think it should be 30seconds at least. A lot of the time ypu'll see people get really close to getting out of a hold but they still lose because it's been 20seconds. I also think you shouldn't get a score for a temporary hold down. I don't think me throwing for waza ari then holding them for 10seconds should give me a victory; i haven't earnt it
I agree about the 30-second Osaekomi. The contest rules changed over the years. Originally, it was left to the referee to decide when to call Ippon for a hold-down. The rule was changed to 1 minute for Ippon sometime in the early 1930's. The time was shortened to 30 seconds in 1950 or 1951 I think. Then, in 2004 (not sure, but I think it was 2004), the time was changed to 25 seconds. The latest change to 20 seconds was done in 2008 or 2012 I think. It looks to me that the IJF is trying to legislate pins out of Judo.
welcomematstevescott i can't say i'll miss them. I love osaekomi waza, but i don't think they should legislate a victory unless the opponent' spirit is broken to the point of submission. It's lke if you watched brazlian jiujtsu, they'll stayed in pins for a while slowly escaping which would've been a loss in judo. I don't want osaekomi to be neglected because they are vital techniques, but i try often not to win by pinfall because it doesn't feel right. It's almost like a TKO when the fighter who lost doesn't get a say n whether they carry on or not.
As i said, if there is a victory by pinfall it should be 30seconds. But if they do legislate them out i'll be happy about it. I also hope that they allow ground fighting to continue for a bit longer as well. Especially since IJF standing games tend to be boring until something finally happens.
I also think encouraging ground work will lead to more ippon victories and can help prevent point hording and realy defensive play