Kesa Gatame JUDO SCARF HOLD 袈裟固 & 4 escapes IN DEPTH LEARNING VIDEO Coached by Graeme Spinks 7dan. Another valid efficient on energy, bridge escape, by Bill Vincent. • KESA GATAME judo scar...
I love your videos. Many thanks. I saw an easier way of using a bridge as part of an escape in another TH-cam video (also on Pro Judo). You bridge, pull your opponent toward you, by gripping his belt, as if you are trying to turn him, and then you quickly slip your leg which is nearest to him/her (i.e., the leg of the hip that is touching your opponent) between his legs (as if you are going for a lock). You then raise that same leg in the air, and begin to turn him. Makes it much easier. The inside leg being raised provides a significant weight to counterbalance your opponent's weight. Using this technique, you do not need to use as much upper body strength to turn your opponent. Good for smaller people who are in Kesa Gatame on the bottom.
There's another escape (I forgot what it's called) that's especially good if you're tall. Reach over with your free arm (the left arm if your opponent is controlling your right side), grab the lapel and choke your opponent back towards your left leg. Bring your left leg over your opponents head and push him off using a backwards, sweeping motion.
+Masculine Buddha That's good especially for tall or highly flexible judoka. I am tick and chunky sort, and relatively inflexible so it doesn't usually work. I use the circle one way and then reverse the direction quickly method instead.
In the first version of Kesa Gatame shown, I don't see what's preventing your opponent from dropping his shoulder down and out to escape and take your back. I've seen this addressed by taking the arm that's under their head and grabbing your own thigh with that hand so their shoulder can't drop down and out.
The hold itself prevents this action. It certainly isn't usual to escape this way, unless the person holding is unskilled, as huge pressure prevents normal breathing for the person being held.
Thanks for the fast response. I don't understand what you mean by "the hold itself" prevents the person from escaping, could you be more specific? From what I've seen, high level Jiu-Jitsu guys will always take your back from there unless you A: have your far-side underhook, or B: grab your own thigh so there's no space for them to drop their shoulder down and out, because once that happens they're escaping and taking your back.
The hold prevents this action of dropping a shoulder. It means that the Jiujitsu coaches might be looking at this as a transition hold, rather than a finishing move. I have broken ribs of judoka more than once with this holding pressure in this hold. Both times it was not intentional, but just happened. Holding as a finish isnt popular in jiujitsu, submissions are. In judo holdings can be finishing moves. We seek to crush the opponent so they cannot move or breathe.
Again, I appreciate the quick response. In all fairness though, saying "the hold" prevents them from dropping their shoulders really doesn't tell me much. It doesn't tell me how you specifically stop that action from happening. I see upper level BJJ guys escape from there all the time unless you have your far side underhook or are gripping your own thigh behind your knee (see, those are the kind of specifics I'm trying to get you to explain instead of just saying "the hold"). Yes, BJJ coaches see Kesa Gatame as a transitional position but I'm a rebellious BJJ student who likes to stay there and work for submissions. I literally had a purple belt tell me about an hour ago during class that there's only one submission from there, so I know it's not the typical BJJ practitioner's preferred position, they just use it to transition to side mount or north-south. I like to go for the pillow V1 armlock from there ala Josh Barnett and Erik Paulson, etc. or hip out to get in tighter before looping my arm further around and leaning in for the chest compression choke like Josh Barnett tapped Dean Lister with at Metamoris. So I'm totally on the same page with you as far as using it as a position to stay in and work for submissions from, I just wish I could get you to explain the details ("the hold" is not a detail, it's a generic term that doesn't outline any specific actions) that prevent the escape from the first version you showed of Kesa Gatame. Because at this point, I'm inclined to believe that it actually is escapable and you haven't had someone show you that. Try the first version in this video on some BJJ black belts and I'm sure you'll get what I mean.
Of course sometimes it is escapable by good ground people, and depends on the ability of the person holding. I sometimes get submissions from judo black belts with this hold, if you want a submission from the holding itself, it either works in seconds or the person wriggles out from the move, so they can breathe again. All holds are escapable, I prefer transitioning into other holds, floating between my favourite moves, rather than forcing a submission, as our contest hold time is now only 20 seconds for a win by Ippon.
I have to disagree with where you bear your weight. It should be center of chest. If you're too far one way or the other, it makes it easier for him to escape.
best video on kesa gatame I've seen so far.
No.... look up grappling academy this is silly.
Just what I needed to help my daughter with her escapes. Great video thanks!
Absolutely superb. Best ever, bay FAR.
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Nice video, with control and escapes :)
I love your videos. Many thanks. I saw an easier way of using a bridge as part of an escape in another TH-cam video (also on Pro Judo).
You bridge, pull your opponent toward you, by gripping his belt, as if you are trying to turn him, and then you quickly slip your leg which is nearest to him/her (i.e., the leg of the hip that is touching your opponent) between his legs (as if you are going for a lock). You then raise that same leg in the air, and begin to turn him. Makes it much easier. The inside leg being raised provides a significant weight to counterbalance your opponent's weight. Using this technique, you do not need to use as much upper body strength to turn your opponent. Good for smaller people who are in Kesa Gatame on the bottom.
Why don't you just put the youtube video link?
There's another escape (I forgot what it's called) that's especially good if you're tall. Reach over with your free arm (the left arm if your opponent is controlling your right side), grab the lapel and choke your opponent back towards your left leg. Bring your left leg over your opponents head and push him off using a backwards, sweeping motion.
+Masculine Buddha That's good especially for tall or highly flexible judoka. I am tick and chunky sort, and relatively inflexible so it doesn't usually work. I use the circle one way and then reverse the direction quickly method instead.
All about JUDO My instructor called it the "tournament escape" but I never found out with the Japanese term is.
good details
Ty
yep the other escape is to just push down on the back of th the head/ neck which applies a lot of pressure.
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In the first version of Kesa Gatame shown, I don't see what's preventing your opponent from dropping his shoulder down and out to escape and take your back. I've seen this addressed by taking the arm that's under their head and grabbing your own thigh with that hand so their shoulder can't drop down and out.
The hold itself prevents this action. It certainly isn't usual to escape this way, unless the person holding is unskilled, as huge pressure prevents normal breathing for the person being held.
Thanks for the fast response. I don't understand what you mean by "the hold itself" prevents the person from escaping, could you be more specific? From what I've seen, high level Jiu-Jitsu guys will always take your back from there unless you A: have your far-side underhook, or B: grab your own thigh so there's no space for them to drop their shoulder down and out, because once that happens they're escaping and taking your back.
The hold prevents this action of dropping a shoulder. It means that the Jiujitsu coaches might be looking at this as a transition hold, rather than a finishing move. I have broken ribs of judoka more than once with this holding pressure in this hold. Both times it was not intentional, but just happened. Holding as a finish isnt popular in jiujitsu, submissions are.
In judo holdings can be finishing moves. We seek to crush the opponent so they cannot move or breathe.
Again, I appreciate the quick response. In all fairness though, saying "the hold" prevents them from dropping their shoulders really doesn't tell me much. It doesn't tell me how you specifically stop that action from happening. I see upper level BJJ guys escape from there all the time unless you have your far side underhook or are gripping your own thigh behind your knee (see, those are the kind of specifics I'm trying to get you to explain instead of just saying "the hold"). Yes, BJJ coaches see Kesa Gatame as a transitional position but I'm a rebellious BJJ student who likes to stay there and work for submissions. I literally had a purple belt tell me about an hour ago during class that there's only one submission from there, so I know it's not the typical BJJ practitioner's preferred position, they just use it to transition to side mount or north-south. I like to go for the pillow V1 armlock from there ala Josh Barnett and Erik Paulson, etc. or hip out to get in tighter before looping my arm further around and leaning in for the chest compression choke like Josh Barnett tapped Dean Lister with at Metamoris. So I'm totally on the same page with you as far as using it as a position to stay in and work for submissions from, I just wish I could get you to explain the details ("the hold" is not a detail, it's a generic term that doesn't outline any specific actions) that prevent the escape from the first version you showed of Kesa Gatame. Because at this point, I'm inclined to believe that it actually is escapable and you haven't had someone show you that. Try the first version in this video on some BJJ black belts and I'm sure you'll get what I mean.
Of course sometimes it is escapable by good ground people, and depends on the ability of the person holding. I sometimes get submissions from judo black belts with this hold, if you want a submission from the holding itself, it either works in seconds or the person wriggles out from the move, so they can breathe again.
All holds are escapable, I prefer transitioning into other holds, floating between my favourite moves, rather than forcing a submission, as our contest hold time is now only 20 seconds for a win by Ippon.
I have to disagree with where you bear your weight. It should be center of chest. If you're too far one way or the other, it makes it easier for him to escape.
I guess we agree to disagree. I have actually broken 2 people ribs holding them down in kesa gatame, those two guys probably also disagree.