So I know everyone is just trying to get through this season, but I have to say this was one of the best episodes from you both. I’m glad to see the no holding back on the opinions and reactions. Saying everything we are all thinking is refreshing!
This whole show is a blow by blow of how an abusive partner molds their victim into what they want. Spencer managed to remove her from her best friend and now slowly remove her family. She’s never allowed to be alone without him because he’s concerned someone will say some truth to her. The fact that holly said “I don’t have your number “ makes me feel like Spencer made her change her number. What a toxic relationship. If he’s blowing off like that in front of the cameras could you imagine what he’s like when they alone.
Yup - and him being "unhinged" is his narcissism not being able to control EVERY aspect of what being on a reality show entails: he could achieve control early on, which is displayed in his "perfect 10" final product vision of Heidi, but anything beyond that is not aligning for him i.e public opinions, magazines, family 'meddling' etc. So sad to watch it all unfold.
You do realize that this is fake? The cast discuss at a table what the story line is going to be. If you want to blame anyone, blame all the producers of the show!!
Exactly!! Lauren was smart to remove Heidi from her life and not tolerate Spencer and his bullshit. I can’t believe at one point Whitney said Lauren is jealous how the fuck is that when Spencer is starting the bullshit with her?? He is systematically isolating her from everyone one by one .Dealing with these types is wrong and so unhealthy. Heidi is a shell of who she was before Spencer
Especially one you can ride! I‘ve been to an elephant rescue camp in Thailand and there they taught us that you need to break an elephants will by isolating and abusing it long enough in order for the elephant to even do anything a human wants it to do. Also, riding an elephant is extremely hurtful for it because its back is not made for it. It‘s so sad that people do this just for a photo or „the experience“ without knowing anything about these creatures.
Yeah, I did not like seeing that. My perspective on situations like that with animals has changed SO MUCH over the last few years. Now I feel overwhelmingly depressed when I see animals being used as entertainment in any capacity like that, I’m embarrassed that I ever actually went to a zoo or Sea World or any similar place. It’s all gross and I can’t believe it’s still seen as “acceptable” to so many people.
What I dont get either is how no one at the party jumped in and stood up for Holly - not Heidi, and not the guys! Totally unacceptable! If you are there when anyone is shouting someone down in that way, you jump in - that was actually quite hard to watch while Brody laughed like he wasn’t a fully grown man and Frankie just watched in shock. Its not ok.
I think they probably did but the producers edited it to make it seem like no one defended Holly… Remember this show was heavily produced/edited for the drama..
I was just coming to check the comments to see if anyone else noticed! She sounds like she inhaled helium.... I don't understand... is it an identity thing? Subconscious? Intentional? So uncomfortable...
I think it’s because of the surgery she had on her nose. Whenever you get a nose job you run the risk of your voice either being slightly altered or permanently changed. However it is really sad to see/hear Heidi here. I think Whitney said in an earlier video that Heidi basically morphed herself into Spencer’s playboy fantasy and completely lost herself. I agree.
Spender has claimed he was “playing a role” but I think he was definitely really having a crisis at this time-it went on for a while. The “I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here” episodes showed it too.
He’s literally abusive and a POS and blames the show for him looking like an Ahole. Like no buddy, producers can’t edit the vein popping out of your neck from rage
Just want to add in at the 13 min mark: If someone you care about shows signs of the being isolated, controlled or other flags of an unhealthy relationship, it’s a good idea to stay in touch with them. There’s a lot of shame and head games that can happen in bad relationships that can keep people from speaking up. Maintaining contacting (while keeping healthy boundaries) can make all the difference. I don’t mean to imply anything about Speidi, but just wanted to say this because it saddens me to see Heidi be mostly abandoned by the cast. I hope anyone who is struggling in an unsafe relationship has access to resources and support.
@@AllegedlyMaybe try to reach out to an old or new friend/acquaintance, someone he doesn't know (well). A friend of mine was recently asked by a colleague to help her leave an abusive home (because the guy had turned everyone close against her) and my friend was surprised to get the request at first but was happy to help, and it worked.
Beautiful comment. Check in on your friends, and anyone in your life that could be struggling with their mental health. They could have no one else and it could truly be the change they need. I love your outlook
her lack of reaction is probably cuz she knows that she is gonna get in trouble if she defends the ones who spencer attacks.. he is clearly very manipulative and has been ever since season 1.
When Tim was like " I can't understand what Kristen and Brodie are communicating to each other" I was just thinking.. wait until you review Laguna Beach and whenever Stephen and Kristen talk!
I can’t imagine my partner speaking like that to my sister, let alone expressing like that about my mom! I truly hope it was just acting cause seeing Heidi just sitting there saying nothing to Spencer made me very sad.
Hearing Audrina say that Spencer is crazy is a little infuriating. Lauren explained for YEARS that she didn't want to be friends with Heidi because of Spencer, yet every single woman on this show pushed her to make amends (apart from Whit). I know a lot of this can be blamed on production, but thinking back to Lauren's last season and the pressure they put on her to attend the wedding then seeing this footage just validates all her feelings about them. Crazy how it took everyone else so long to see that their behavior was toxic.
She's incredibly strong, big kudos to her! I just keep thinking about how amazing of a person Heidi could have become if she would have left Spencer early on. I mean, in the reboot episodes she does seem quite strong and resourceful, but just imagine what a frickin powerhouse she could have become in the right environment!
Heidis and Spencers behavior is actully much more worse than it shows here. They were kicked off because Spencer got in a fight with someone (a producer if I remember correctly) and threatened with real serious violence. Heidi got mad for being kicked off so she accused (falsely) Adam Divello of sexual harassment. But of course, the two of them made up a story about why they left. Spencer said he left to do some charity work... 😂
They were all over the place with stories. This is true and also Spencer claimed the producers wanted him to physically punch Stephanie for ratings (ala Jersey Shore) and that’s why he threatened that person and got kicked off. Except he was losing it well before that
WOOF. 10 years later this episode still makes me anxious and so so sad for everyone involved. Holly is a BAMF for confronting Spencer and still trying to save her sister.
The way holly cried saying how she didn’t have her sisters number and that she’s scared…I felt that pain, being afraid for your sister / family/friend like that is rough when they are closed off from others by a narcissist and it allows an Avenue for abuse (mental, emotional or even physical)
I'm sure it was difficult for anyone who cared about her, but Heidi is far from being a victim. The only person I felt bad for in that room was Holly, the other two are psychopaths meant for one another.
Spencer isn't becoming something he never was. He has always been a controlling narcissist and now he can't keep it hidden anymore. Heidi has been in at the very least emotionally abusive relationship for so long now she doesn't even know what freedom looks like anymore. Sadly a new generation is being taught how to act the same way now.
"HE'S SCARING US AND WE'RE 10 YEARS REMOVED!" holy crap he's scaring ME and I'm watching a video of people reacting to a 10 year old reality show.....it's terrifying watching these people coddle this actual full blown psychotic person
Also lisa from the veronicas and Tess from pretty wild.. His date with Tess is actually on a pretty wild episode where they go to the same bowling ally and he supposedly get a text or call from lisa during him and tess's date
Interesting that Abby ended up with Joe Francis. Fun fact, Joe Francis was invested in Ashley Paige, the designer who we saw in an early episode of the hills where Lauren had to dig the wick out of the witch candle. So Ashley Paige appeared in an episode of KUWTK because she was using Kim, Kourtney and Khloe as models to launch her swimwear line at Joe Francis’s house in Mexico.
Yes yes I totally remember that episode this is where Caitlyn (formally known as Bruce) made a surprise visit bc Kris lied to him about where they went
From Wikipedia: The fourth episode of the season, "This Is Goodbye", which aired on May 18, 2010, marked the final appearance of Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt from The Hills. Pratt was kicked off the show after threatening to kill a producer of the series. 😳😳😳😳😳
Wiki cont... Originally, Spencer was supposed to return after anger management and a six-week hiatus from the series, but his behavior later worsened causing him to be completely removed from the cast. Heidi filed and then dropped false charges against The Hills creator Adam Divello claiming sexual harassment. Due to Montag's absence, Stephanie Pratt was bumped up from a recurring role to the fifth main cast member.
This episode is wild! I would be curious to know what the producers did witnessing Spencer’s very clear breakdown in mental stability. How can they stand by and film something so disturbing?
Absolutely. I would have been so worried for Heidi's safety as well. Like, I know he wouldn't hurt her... but he's not in his right mind and has no self control so who's to say he couldn't just snap in one second and attack her. She's already really fragile physically from the surgeries, and mentally, also from the surgeries and what drove her to do something so dangerous and drastic. This could have ended so badly.
MTV learned absolutely nothing either…because years later they have shown multiple breakdowns and physically unsafe situations on the Teen Mom franchise. 😬
Okay there is something I honestly dont understand. WHY IS HEIDI STAYING WITH HIM??? It's so f'ed up for him to talk to and about heidi's family like that and for her to stay with him. I don't care about Spencer at all, I think he is the definition of toxic masculinity, but I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would stay with that man....
I have a theory that Heidi is staying for the money. What I have heard from Stephanie (in many interviews) it's that Spencer is the "man in the family" he is going to have everything his family owns once they have passed away. Heidi family seems well off but they are not LA rich people, I think Heidi got sucked into Hollywood lifestyle and wanted that and for that you need money she saw spencer is from a very very well off family and the rest is history.
@@accordingtoisabel I really don't think Heidi is this evil crazy mastermind that Stephanie has made her out to be I'm sorry... Stephanie doesn't exactly have a peachy past. I think it's more likely that she's jealous that Spencer is inheriting and I really don't think she's an innocent little lamb in all of this, like there's videographic proof she tried to paint Kristin as a drug addict, to name just one example.
@@ania5038 Ok, so what would your answer be? Why would Heidi stay? His behavior is beyond disturbing & idc how much “love” I have for my spouse I would never in a million years let them talk to my sister like that or talk about my mom like that. Then, her sister saying “I don’t even have your number” & you could tell it was genuine by the look on Heidi’s face, that’s even more disturbing.
@@karawigley6231 Heidi was obviously upset with her family at that time because she had literally just died for one minute during surgery and was still recovering from the pain, and her family just made fun of her. Holly didn't deserve to be treated that way but Heidi was probably hurt and not standing up for the person who had just hurt her. They talk now and Holly and Spencer get along so whatever you want to believe, I choose to support them as a family now. I think people are forgetting that Spencer was also extremely traumatized and the fame and everything was getting to his head and making him go crazy.
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is a weird thing to say. I would feel awkward being at a party for a kid I didn't know and being around all of their family and friends not knowing who they are or why I'm there. Seems like a perfectly normal thing to say. Y'all are just being nitpicky
@@passiontaylor6321 I'm guessing that's the whole point, having a bunch of young grown-ups at a party for a kid they don't know is weird. I don't have kids and I'm not from the US, but if my child would be hanging out with my adult neighbours, without any other kids or anyone else around, and then them asking (or however it went) to throw a big birthday party for my child, I would be seriously weirded out. Actually, let me rephrase that a bit. Having my child hanging out with my adult neighbours, alone AND with an entire filming crew there - that would be a nope for me.
It was their house though? That was the whole point that Heidi was throwing the party for him at their house - or did it get changed last minute and I didn't notice that part? She even said to Spencer she was doing it at their house because they had more space?
It’s so wild that Spenc & Heidi, to this day, try to say LC tried to get them off the show. LC just wanted Heidi to be single and couldn’t be happy for her, LC is suuuuch a bad guy. Like no, she saw what a crazy Ahole he is and was trying to save Heidi!! Obviously LC didn’t have to try to kick them off the show, they did that all on their own AFTER LC even left the show her self!!
@@user-ef5id9km3p so horrible that animal is stuck in the middle of LA somewhere, likely chained and alone. this type of thing should be blanket outlawed.
Every episode ‘What’s going on with you and Kristen’ ‘What’s going on with you and Audrina’ ‘What’s going on with you and Brody’ They just can’t let it go. They all just like the attention and fun of flirting with each other.
@@lucyclark704 I mean...Heidi was super cute to him, always looking after him. SpenDer was Spender all the time.🤪 I guess they were well paid and advised Enzo about what was going on there.
Does anyone remember the opening titles from this season? They were super shady before and afters of all the cast to show how much all of their faces have changed 😬
Timmys face when Spencer starts freaking out at Holly the second time made me laugh so hard!! I have been waiting for them to watch this season since the beginning!!!! So good
Spencer and Heidi are unwatchable. Watching this reminds me how much everyone hated these 2 by the end of the series. The way Spencer treats people, and the way Heidi lets him get away with treating her own mother like that is extremely frustrating, and the this is……they haven’t really changed at all in 10 years.
The original song that played after the fight & Heidi looking out the window was "Drop the World" by Lil Wayne & Eminem...I never realized how the music plays a big part in making this show so great. The scene when Heidi looks out the Window and Eminem is rapping Man, it feels like these walls are closin' in This roof is cavin' in Uh, it's time to raise it, then.. ICONIC
I would’ve never guessed we’d be looking forward to Speidi scenes. It’s so much more real this season. Heidi’s voice is really different after the surgeries. Also: What happened to K Todd 😭
Just gotta say, elephants should not be ridden. They are tortured to get to the point of being able to be around humans to that extent. That’s all, love you guys!
Two things: 1: Lo hiding in the curtains 😆 2: I was literally just saying to my husband that watching people eat while they’re bowling makes me sick, and then Timmy said the same thing hahah
I wonder if Spencer and Heidi ever addressed what was going on during these years? After this they went on some sort of jungle show and they were still behaving like this.
I feel like Heidi hasn’t been herself since she got with Spencer and I feel that she learnt to mimic his behaviours to maintain that "team” unit against "the world" because she can’t see how bad he is. I really hope one day she finds someone who is the right person for her and becomes her old self again 💔
Kristin said in a recent interview with her long time friend Brett Gursky, that Brody was still dating Jayde that whole time and their break up was fake, and she was dating someone outside of the show (aka camera guy) and then Brody was dating Avril Lavigne at some stage. In other words, her and Brody never dated during the hills.
If Spencer was acting then boy oh boy he was gooood!! This seems like a full psychotic break from reality- if it was real I hope he got the help he needed.
This show was so much fun at first when it used to be about young people’s lives with ambitions. I would have loved to have lived the cast’s life as a teenager with all the fun internships, adventures and parties. By this season it is just a bunch of rich people hanging out hating on each other. No substance at all and their conversations don’t even make sense anymore.
Whitney & Timmy I have binge watching your channel and you are both THE BEST!!! Love the dynamic between the 2 of you and the creative production!!! Awesome 🙌💯👍
Imagine if your child's boyfriend ever called you what Spencer has called Darlene. I cannot say, it's too offensive and degrading as a woman. I would never forgive someone for saying that.
Holly: He's scarring me.
Timmy: HE'S SCARRING US and we're 10 years removed!
Me: 😆 🤣 😆 🤣 😆 🤣😆 🤣 😆 🤣
It’s so true though, like I’ve watched this so many times and every single time I’m like, I don’t ever want to meet him ever! Terrifying… 😳
Yes!
Agreed! Even Lisa the party planner was like whoa….I’m gonna take a few steps back!
*scaring
I laughed so hard at this ….
So I know everyone is just trying to get through this season, but I have to say this was one of the best episodes from you both. I’m glad to see the no holding back on the opinions and reactions. Saying everything we are all thinking is refreshing!
So agree!
Totaaalllyyyy.
Agreed!!
A great reply, and so true!
100%
The way Audrina asks Kristen “are you going to Enzo’s birthday?” Like it’s the hottest new spot in Hollywood lmao
Best comment 😂
lmao like everyone knows Enzo
This had me crying omg 😭
It was cause MTV was filming 😄
wtf
This whole show is a blow by blow of how an abusive partner molds their victim into what they want. Spencer managed to remove her from her best friend and now slowly remove her family. She’s never allowed to be alone without him because he’s concerned someone will say some truth to her. The fact that holly said “I don’t have your number “ makes me feel like Spencer made her change her number. What a toxic relationship. If he’s blowing off like that in front of the cameras could you imagine what he’s like when they alone.
Yup - and him being "unhinged" is his narcissism not being able to control EVERY aspect of what being on a reality show entails: he could achieve control early on, which is displayed in his "perfect 10" final product vision of Heidi, but anything beyond that is not aligning for him i.e public opinions, magazines, family 'meddling' etc. So sad to watch it all unfold.
So fucking true. You don't understand the dynamic until its too late.
Yes I agree!
You do realize that this is fake? The cast discuss at a table what the story line is going to be. If you want to blame anyone, blame all the producers of the show!!
Exactly!! Lauren was smart to remove Heidi from her life and not tolerate Spencer and his bullshit. I can’t believe at one point Whitney said Lauren is jealous how the fuck is that when Spencer is starting the bullshit with her?? He is systematically isolating her from everyone one by one .Dealing with these types is wrong and so unhealthy. Heidi is a shell of who she was before Spencer
I'm happy Lauren realized that this is where the show was headed and decided to bounce. Thank you for these reaction videos!!
Probably the show end because she wasn't there anymore
I would’ve bounced too
Yeah I didn’t even watch this season at the time . Not a Kristen fan and wasn’t surprised it ended at this season
ya, she has way too much class for this
It's so scripted and fake! How would Kristin know Stacy?
I had to pause the video because I was laughing out loud at Timmy saying “He’s scaring us and we are 10 years removed” - Legendary commentary.
I fucking died when he said that lolol
Having an elephant on a kids party is not awesome. It is sad 😢
Especially one you can ride! I‘ve been to an elephant rescue camp in Thailand and there they taught us that you need to break an elephants will by isolating and abusing it long enough in order for the elephant to even do anything a human wants it to do. Also, riding an elephant is extremely hurtful for it because its back is not made for it. It‘s so sad that people do this just for a photo or „the experience“ without knowing anything about these creatures.
@@Reira_Newgate That is so sad! I never knew that.
Having animals in a party it’s sad, period.
Yeah, I did not like seeing that. My perspective on situations like that with animals has changed SO MUCH over the last few years. Now I feel overwhelmingly depressed when I see animals being used as entertainment in any capacity like that, I’m embarrassed that I ever actually went to a zoo or Sea World or any similar place. It’s all gross and I can’t believe it’s still seen as “acceptable” to so many people.
I 1000% agree. Animals shouldn't suffer for entertainment.
What I dont get either is how no one at the party jumped in and stood up for Holly - not Heidi, and not the guys! Totally unacceptable! If you are there when anyone is shouting someone down in that way, you jump in - that was actually quite hard to watch while Brody laughed like he wasn’t a fully grown man and Frankie just watched in shock. Its not ok.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! I can't believe no one stepped in at any stage :(
my thought exactly.
I think they probably did but the producers edited it to make it seem like no one defended Holly… Remember this show was heavily produced/edited for the drama..
@@nerissawatts1027 I hope that’s what happened
@@Jerrica8123 i hope so too !
“It’s promising that Brody’s into hot moms” 😂🤣 Whitney, I am dying that was hilarious I had a coughing attack from laughing so hard
Same! I was laughing SO hard 🤣
It was so perfect 😂 “it’s nice to know we still have a place in a young man’s heart and we aren’t completely undesirable!” 👏
The change in Heidi’s voice is so noticeable in this episode. Like she fully tried to transform into a funhouse Barbie
It made me so sad during the last episode when Spencer said she’s a 10/10..after her surgeries :/
I was just coming to check the comments to see if anyone else noticed! She sounds like she inhaled helium.... I don't understand... is it an identity thing? Subconscious? Intentional? So uncomfortable...
@@hollyblair5778 all of the above 😬
@@natya3121 no he said 10.0. She said they’re meeting Heidi 3.0 as in 3rd surgery version. He said Heidi 10.0 because it was 10 surgeries
I think it’s because of the surgery she had on her nose. Whenever you get a nose job you run the risk of your voice either being slightly altered or permanently changed. However it is really sad to see/hear Heidi here. I think Whitney said in an earlier video that Heidi basically morphed herself into Spencer’s playboy fantasy and completely lost herself. I agree.
Spender has claimed he was “playing a role” but I think he was definitely really having a crisis at this time-it went on for a while. The “I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here” episodes showed it too.
Right. I feel like the show affected them in different ways. Heidi got all the surgeries and Spencer seems like he's having a break down.
I forgot all about that series
He’s literally abusive and a POS and blames the show for him looking like an Ahole. Like no buddy, producers can’t edit the vein popping out of your neck from rage
@@PinkySaadia bet she doesn’t get so much surgery if she never met Spencer
He is not playing a role. Holly's tears are real and she looks terrified. No one is that good of an actor.
Just want to add in at the 13 min mark: If someone you care about shows signs of the being isolated, controlled or other flags of an unhealthy relationship, it’s a good idea to stay in touch with them. There’s a lot of shame and head games that can happen in bad relationships that can keep people from speaking up. Maintaining contacting (while keeping healthy boundaries) can make all the difference. I don’t mean to imply anything about Speidi, but just wanted to say this because it saddens me to see Heidi be mostly abandoned by the cast. I hope anyone who is struggling in an unsafe relationship has access to resources and support.
I've been trying to get out but hes turning everyone against me
@@AllegedlyMaybe I hope this changes for you. Sending big love
@@AllegedlyMaybe try to reach out to an old or new friend/acquaintance, someone he doesn't know (well). A friend of mine was recently asked by a colleague to help her leave an abusive home (because the guy had turned everyone close against her) and my friend was surprised to get the request at first but was happy to help, and it worked.
Beautiful comment. Check in on your friends, and anyone in your life that could be struggling with their mental health. They could have no one else and it could truly be the change they need. I love your outlook
@@Rosiewithfootprints I've been trying to find a shelter
Heidi’s lack of reaction to spencer blowing up all the time is really concerning.
omg right?? She's like a robot. She's just like I look so good now, I don't care what goes on around me
her lack of reaction is probably cuz she knows that she is gonna get in trouble if she defends the ones who spencer attacks.. he is clearly very manipulative and has been ever since season 1.
Heidi’s biological dad should’ve stepped in
When Tim was like " I can't understand what Kristen and Brodie are communicating to each other" I was just thinking.. wait until you review Laguna Beach and whenever Stephen and Kristen talk!
Yes!! 🤣
@@jennas4281 just picturing Tim's face now haha
The elephant being at the party is so sad. They’re horrifically abused to get them to submit to doing what the trainers want them to do :(
I was thinking the same thing. Should be illegal
True. It was a different time though. Animal abuse is way more noticed now.
Can we all agree that it’s awesome that the same magician from Enzo’s party came to Sonny’s birthday years later!? That’s some real wizardry 🪄
I can’t imagine my partner speaking like that to my sister, let alone expressing like that about my mom! I truly hope it was just acting cause seeing Heidi just sitting there saying nothing to Spencer made me very sad.
Spencer is straight up verbally and seems like probably physically abusive to Heidi at this point… it’s so sad to watch.
That was real no acting just insane people!
Honestly, that would result in me INSTANTLY moving out. My family is the most important thing. Number 1. Sad she doesn’t feel that way…
"Lo's lurking in the cur-tins" 😂
Timmy imitated it perfectly haha
Hearing Audrina say that Spencer is crazy is a little infuriating. Lauren explained for YEARS that she didn't want to be friends with Heidi because of Spencer, yet every single woman on this show pushed her to make amends (apart from Whit). I know a lot of this can be blamed on production, but thinking back to Lauren's last season and the pressure they put on her to attend the wedding then seeing this footage just validates all her feelings about them. Crazy how it took everyone else so long to see that their behavior was toxic.
hollys iconic for crying then telling spencer off 😍
She's incredibly strong, big kudos to her! I just keep thinking about how amazing of a person Heidi could have become if she would have left Spencer early on. I mean, in the reboot episodes she does seem quite strong and resourceful, but just imagine what a frickin powerhouse she could have become in the right environment!
Heidis and Spencers behavior is actully much more worse than it shows here. They were kicked off because Spencer got in a fight with someone (a producer if I remember correctly) and threatened with real serious violence. Heidi got mad for being kicked off so she accused (falsely) Adam Divello of sexual harassment. But of course, the two of them made up a story about why they left. Spencer said he left to do some charity work... 😂
They were all over the place with stories. This is true and also Spencer claimed the producers wanted him to physically punch Stephanie for ratings (ala Jersey Shore) and that’s why he threatened that person and got kicked off. Except he was losing it well before that
Insane people
After the lie they told about Lauren their reliability went down the drain for me
Charity work my ass boy bye
They are fking insane. A circuitous nut job feedback loop.
WOOF. 10 years later this episode still makes me anxious and so so sad for everyone involved. Holly is a BAMF for confronting Spencer and still trying to save her sister.
WE STAN HOLLY, always. I have seen this episode a hundred times and it’s still reallyyyy scary to watch tbh.
The way holly cried saying how she didn’t have her sisters number and that she’s scared…I felt that pain, being afraid for your sister / family/friend like that is rough when they are closed off from others by a narcissist and it allows an Avenue for abuse (mental, emotional or even physical)
I really don’t think spencer is a narcissist, he is definitely an abusive ass**** but not a narc. Justin Bobby on the other hand … 👀
I'm sure it was difficult for anyone who cared about her, but Heidi is far from being a victim. The only person I felt bad for in that room was Holly, the other two are psychopaths meant for one another.
Malignant Narcissists are abusive . He is using all the tactics they use
Spencer isn't becoming something he never was. He has always been a controlling narcissist and now he can't keep it hidden anymore. Heidi has been in at the very least emotionally abusive relationship for so long now she doesn't even know what freedom looks like anymore. Sadly a new generation is being taught how to act the same way now.
I didn’t think he was hiding it before. We just didn’t see how much of a malignant narcissist he was.
Oh he is in full on narcissistic rage!
And they have a child now - that's so sad
He's being exactly what he always was.
Wish him the best though. If help is possible hope he got it. Or is getting it.
"HE'S SCARING US AND WE'RE 10 YEARS REMOVED!"
holy crap he's scaring ME and I'm watching a video of people reacting to a 10 year old reality show.....it's terrifying watching these people coddle this actual full blown psychotic person
I know! I can not imagine being with him in the same room. My respects to Holly that remained calm.
I remember when Ryan use to date Ashley Simpson and was on their show
Eww, I remember it’s like he was reality TV hopping. 🤣
He always came across as super sweet though
Also lisa from the veronicas and Tess from pretty wild.. His date with Tess is actually on a pretty wild episode where they go to the same bowling ally and he supposedly get a text or call from lisa during him and tess's date
He was on every reality show in existence in that time period… very cringy and gross in my humble opinion
Wasn't her dad his manager too? (Or maybe I'm imagining things? 😂)
Interesting that Abby ended up with Joe Francis. Fun fact, Joe Francis was invested in Ashley Paige, the designer who we saw in an early episode of the hills where Lauren had to dig the wick out of the witch candle. So Ashley Paige appeared in an episode of KUWTK because she was using Kim, Kourtney and Khloe as models to launch her swimwear line at Joe Francis’s house in Mexico.
Omg yes. It’s all come full circle and back to me! I had forgotten about all of that!
Yes yes I totally remember that episode this is where Caitlyn (formally known as Bruce) made a surprise visit bc Kris lied to him about where they went
@@latoyajohnson8695 Yes! and i'm pretty sure it's the episode where Brody and Frankie babysit Kendal and Kylie
Lol, Frankie's face. He was so uncomfortable and in disbelief as he listened to Spencer talking disrespectfully about Darlene.
Like I said before, Charlie should've played Stacy's part. Would've been so much more interesting!!😂😂😂😂
From Wikipedia: The fourth episode of the season, "This Is Goodbye", which aired on May 18, 2010, marked the final appearance of Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt from The Hills. Pratt was kicked off the show after threatening to kill a producer of the series.
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Wiki cont... Originally, Spencer was supposed to return after anger management and a six-week hiatus from the series, but his behavior later worsened causing him to be completely removed from the cast. Heidi filed and then dropped false charges against The Hills creator Adam Divello claiming sexual harassment. Due to Montag's absence, Stephanie Pratt was bumped up from a recurring role to the fifth main cast member.
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Can I just say, Whitney’s hair is so cute up in a high pony? Awesome sode.
This episode is wild! I would be curious to know what the producers did witnessing Spencer’s very clear breakdown in mental stability. How can they stand by and film something so disturbing?
Absolutely. I would have been so worried for Heidi's safety as well. Like, I know he wouldn't hurt her... but he's not in his right mind and has no self control so who's to say he couldn't just snap in one second and attack her. She's already really fragile physically from the surgeries, and mentally, also from the surgeries and what drove her to do something so dangerous and drastic.
This could have ended so badly.
Right?? Partially what they created… or allowed.
Yea I’m kind of surprised it all went to air…
MTV learned absolutely nothing either…because years later they have shown multiple breakdowns and physically unsafe situations on the Teen Mom franchise. 😬
Ryan Cabrera's hair, still to this day is like that 🤦♀️ it's not a look lol
he will never grow up
I’ve met him.... huge douche. Loves grey goose.
I’m so excited for two days in a row! Thanks Timmy - also hope you had fun at the wedding!
Okay there is something I honestly dont understand. WHY IS HEIDI STAYING WITH HIM??? It's so f'ed up for him to talk to and about heidi's family like that and for her to stay with him. I don't care about Spencer at all, I think he is the definition of toxic masculinity, but I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would stay with that man....
I have a theory that Heidi is staying for the money. What I have heard from Stephanie (in many interviews) it's that Spencer is the "man in the family" he is going to have everything his family owns once they have passed away. Heidi family seems well off but they are not LA rich people, I think Heidi got sucked into Hollywood lifestyle and wanted that and for that you need money she saw spencer is from a very very well off family and the rest is history.
@@accordingtoisabel I really don't think Heidi is this evil crazy mastermind that Stephanie has made her out to be I'm sorry... Stephanie doesn't exactly have a peachy past. I think it's more likely that she's jealous that Spencer is inheriting and I really don't think she's an innocent little lamb in all of this, like there's videographic proof she tried to paint Kristin as a drug addict, to name just one example.
@@ania5038 Ok, so what would your answer be? Why would Heidi stay? His behavior is beyond disturbing & idc how much “love” I have for my spouse I would never in a million years let them talk to my sister like that or talk about my mom like that. Then, her sister saying “I don’t even have your number” & you could tell it was genuine by the look on Heidi’s face, that’s even more disturbing.
@@karawigley6231 Heidi was obviously upset with her family at that time because she had literally just died for one minute during surgery and was still recovering from the pain, and her family just made fun of her. Holly didn't deserve to be treated that way but Heidi was probably hurt and not standing up for the person who had just hurt her. They talk now and Holly and Spencer get along so whatever you want to believe, I choose to support them as a family now. I think people are forgetting that Spencer was also extremely traumatized and the fame and everything was getting to his head and making him go crazy.
Amen.
Brody feels awkward cause he doesn’t know Enzo well 😅😅
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is a weird thing to say. I would feel awkward being at a party for a kid I didn't know and being around all of their family and friends not knowing who they are or why I'm there. Seems like a perfectly normal thing to say. Y'all are just being nitpicky
@@passiontaylor6321 I'm guessing that's the whole point, having a bunch of young grown-ups at a party for a kid they don't know is weird. I don't have kids and I'm not from the US, but if my child would be hanging out with my adult neighbours, without any other kids or anyone else around, and then them asking (or however it went) to throw a big birthday party for my child, I would be seriously weirded out.
Actually, let me rephrase that a bit. Having my child hanging out with my adult neighbours, alone AND with an entire filming crew there - that would be a nope for me.
Enzo was a little 6 year old! What on Earth should Brody feel awkward about?? 😂🤣
I think we need a direct source, I vote we get Enzo on the show! He’s gotta be a teen/young adult by now
Pleaseeeee find Enzo and get him on
I love how they keep talking about Enzo like he was one of the friends. 🤣😂
Not Spencer kicking Holly out and threatening to call the cops at a house that isn’t even his 😂😂😂 He’s so cringe.
Now we know Gen Z is watching by saying Spencer is “so cringe”, lol we love you Gen Z 💕
It was their house though? That was the whole point that Heidi was throwing the party for him at their house - or did it get changed last minute and I didn't notice that part? She even said to Spencer she was doing it at their house because they had more space?
Ohhh you mean because it was all a fake home for Heidi and Spencer - gotcha.
Not a fan having exotic animals for entertainment!
I know so hard to watch 😔
Best statement from Timmy
“I also feel bad for anyone who Bowled and then ate a bunch of finger food”
I burst into laughter 🤣 so true and disgusting 🤢
“This is great tv, but very psychotic” -Timmy 😂
Heidi just keeps telling everyone to "Take a breath." LOL yeah that'll fix everything
It’s so wild that Spenc & Heidi, to this day, try to say LC tried to get them off the show. LC just wanted Heidi to be single and couldn’t be happy for her, LC is suuuuch a bad guy. Like no, she saw what a crazy Ahole he is and was trying to save Heidi!! Obviously LC didn’t have to try to kick them off the show, they did that all on their own AFTER LC even left the show her self!!
that elephant is being exploited, its not 'fun'
was thinking the exact same thing, its skin was so bad too.
@@user-ef5id9km3p so horrible that animal is stuck in the middle of LA somewhere, likely chained and alone. this type of thing should be blanket outlawed.
OMG. Spencer!! Can't you let Heidi alone for like 1 second? I can't. Also, he completely lost it, Jesus.
What I would love to see a reaction series to since Whitney probably has some real tea on it, Kell on Earth!
Yeeeees!!
I agree!!
Every episode
‘What’s going on with you and Kristen’
‘What’s going on with you and Audrina’
‘What’s going on with you and Brody’
They just can’t let it go. They all just like the attention and fun of flirting with each other.
I love the honesty with your reaction. Spencer slamming that door ..Enzo was like get out of my house and never return
Timmy “I feel bad for anyone that bowled then ate finger foods”- such a virgo comment😂😂
Throughout the season, Kristin was dating a cameraman of the show and they got caught up by the paparazzi a week before the show wrapped up.
On a scale of 1 - concerned, how concerned should we be for Spencer?
Super concerned!
He needs a looney bin ASAP
I don’t think numbers go that high lol
Very, but more concerned for his wife. Like speaks to like and that why they're still married I guess 🤷♀️
Real concerned.
Heidi's voice in this season and the way she talks makes my skin crawl
I think for once I'm with Spender this time, that Enzo's own parents should throw him a party.
Correct. I think the producers suggested this party. To bring all the drama together
+Lucy Clark once and ever.😅
I wonder if Enzo's parents reflect back and wonder why they let those wackos anywhere near their son?
@@lucyclark704 I mean...Heidi was super cute to him, always looking after him. SpenDer was Spender all the time.🤪 I guess they were well paid and advised Enzo about what was going on there.
Lol the entire Enzo storyline is fake. Heidi & Spencer were fake living in Enzo’s house. 🤣
This episode is good bc they’re actually having real conversations about actual things going on in their lives
Does anyone remember the opening titles from this season? They were super shady before and afters of all the cast to show how much all of their faces have changed 😬
Heidi’s whole take a breath thing reminds me of Seinfeld’s “serenity now, insanity later.”
I've absolutely loved watching you guys. This episode was wild 😳
I used to love Ryan’s song On the Way Down 😊 I can’t believe how long it’s been.
Timmys face when Spencer starts freaking out at Holly the second time made me laugh so hard!! I have been waiting for them to watch this season since the beginning!!!! So good
You guys just get better and better. Love how Whitney is so honest!!!
Spencer and Heidi are unwatchable. Watching this reminds me how much everyone hated these 2 by the end of the series. The way Spencer treats people, and the way Heidi lets him get away with treating her own mother like that is extremely frustrating, and the this is……they haven’t really changed at all in 10 years.
Y’all should react to Very Cavallari!
Seeing everyone sitting in those tiny chairs around that little mini party table at Enzo’s birthday!!
Whitney looks so cute and snuggly in her sweatshirt! ☺️
When Holly and Spender are screaming at each other Spencer reminds me of Ben stiller from Dodgeball 😂 just the way he talks and carries himself
“I said he scared me on my podcast and then he blocked me on social media” TRUEEEE
You have to do both endings at the end of this season!! Reactions to both the lauren and the Kristen ending. Season 6 was wild ! One of the best
The original song that played after the fight & Heidi looking out the window was "Drop the World" by Lil Wayne & Eminem...I never realized how the music plays a big part in making this show so great. The scene when Heidi looks out the Window and Eminem is rapping Man, it feels like these walls are closin' in
This roof is cavin' in
Uh, it's time to raise it, then.. ICONIC
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“I’ve always had a nice relationship with Brody” WE LOVE TO SEE IT AHAHAHAHAHAAH
I would’ve never guessed we’d be looking forward to Speidi scenes. It’s so much more real this season. Heidi’s voice is really different after the surgeries.
Also: What happened to K Todd 😭
House of Harlow necklace by Nicole Richie! omg me too! It was sucha vibe during this era, I went all the way to Macy’s 33rd street looking for it 🥲
I died at “omg spencer! He’s so crazy 😜 “ 😂😂😂
I am going to be so sad when this is over! I have really enjoyed you guys!
They're not goung anywhere love. They're watching Laguna Beach next. 💛
@@coleyoley420 Amen! I knew that, but slipped my mind there for a sec. I don’t have to worry just yet, thank GOODNESS!
@@beckymoran321 I understand, it happens to the best to us. 😊
Thank goodness! I would be lost without their commentary and chit chats. 💛
Just gotta say, elephants should not be ridden. They are tortured to get to the point of being able to be around humans to that extent. That’s all, love you guys!
Heidi that was so sweet of you to throw Enzo a party and Spencer petting the goat how sweet!
I think Sleazy T may have had a thing for Kristen. He was always wishing Brody would get back with her so he could live vicariously through him.
~Girls, bowling & cars~
That’s how BORDY lives life!
Two things:
1: Lo hiding in the curtains 😆
2: I was literally just saying to my husband that watching people eat while they’re bowling makes me sick, and then Timmy said the same thing hahah
When Kristen said "Who was there?" and Brody goes, " Enzo..." LOLLLL
These comments speak volumes. Even if Spencer was playing the villain, at what cost? He’s fully committed and definitely cracked. Woof 😖
"his scaring us and we're ten years Removed" 🤣
I wonder if Spencer and Heidi ever addressed what was going on during these years? After this they went on some sort of jungle show and they were still behaving like this.
I feel like Heidi hasn’t been herself since she got with Spencer and I feel that she learnt to mimic his behaviours to maintain that "team” unit against "the world" because she can’t see how bad he is. I really hope one day she finds someone who is the right person for her and becomes her old self again 💔
Goodness meeee! Spencer is crazzzzzzyyyyyy 😳
Acting or not- This footage lasts forever and their child will see it one day
Kristin said in a recent interview with her long time friend Brett Gursky, that Brody was still dating Jayde that whole time and their break up was fake, and she was dating someone outside of the show (aka camera guy) and then Brody was dating Avril Lavigne at some stage. In other words, her and Brody never dated during the hills.
If Spencer was acting then boy oh boy he was gooood!! This seems like a full psychotic break from reality- if it was real I hope he got the help he needed.
It was real
No it's not him acting. He's just a very cruel demonic human.
Blinded by the lights. Whitney said it perfectly.
I knew I had seen Sleazy T's fiance before! I asked in the comments during that episode, they were on Relationship Rehab and I so remember it now!
Heidi looks and sounds insane in this episode and yea I’ve gone back and rewatched the reactions about 100 times lmao
‘He’s scaring us and we’re 10 years removed.’ 😂😂😂😂😂😂
They got kicked off? That's how much I tuned this season out. BTW, episodes without JB have been so much better!
This show was so much fun at first when it used to be about young people’s lives with ambitions. I would have loved to have lived the cast’s life as a teenager with all the fun internships, adventures and parties. By this season it is just a bunch of rich people hanging out hating on each other. No substance at all and their conversations don’t even make sense anymore.
Totally agree! We havent even seen anyone at work in ages. The whole tone changed
Exactly 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Whitney & Timmy I have binge watching your channel and you are both THE BEST!!! Love the dynamic between the 2 of you and the creative production!!! Awesome 🙌💯👍
I’ve been binging your videos and now I’ve finally caught up…not sure what to do now.
I will never eat while bowling again…NEVER!
Same. That freaked me out.
This was, maybe, one of the most disgusting episodes. I would be so sad to raise a daughter like Heidi.
I mostly feel sad for her. It’s all too much.
Victim blaming, much? Hooow on earth did your sentence not end with Spencer’s name? Heidi is clearly in an emotionally abusive situation
Imagine if your child's boyfriend ever called you what Spencer has called Darlene. I cannot say, it's too offensive and degrading as a woman. I would never forgive someone for saying that.
That dragon in the wide city shots is ACTUALLY in Chinatown!!! Just east of downtown LA
Nice seeing you guys enjoy the episodes. I think the best ones from this season were the ones with the Pratts
Thank you Timmy for point out at 22:00 what most of us were thinking....sheesh!! Heidi was in denial 😳