Because her next film was haseen dilruba and it's another proof that actors/actresses don't give a f*ck about the society if they like the story and sees the scope that the film will help their career to grow they will do any type of film 😅
Omg Rani Mukherjee did a Kajol on this one! Just after she had shown so much poise on Koffee with Karan. I started off loving the podcast and now I am a bit bummed. I wanted to hear everyone else more but sigh! That snub to Prithvi was so inappropriate- this is a round table not a debate. Look at Rima, what class!
What we saw in KwK seemed like poise only because Kajol was terrible. Rani has always been crass and arrogant, without much of intelligence to back it up with.
Also it was appropriate.the malayalam guy explained it better .prithvi was in wrong and he made it a debate with a sweeping remark .by his own definition his movies are crap as its indian movie and not iranian.the mallu guy has made movies like prithvi too .a good cinema is good cinema not just a particular type of cinema.same was said by assamese lady .indian audience is diverse andnall kinda cinema exist here and does well too ..many indie tamil and malayalam movies have done wonderful numbers even .the prithvi guy was hating on bollywood
Bhardwaj Rangan is turning out to be a true star. He is rocking and love his questions and the way conversation is flowing. Loved this roundatable, best across all platforms to date in 2023
1:48:22 well done 👍 BRAVO 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻what an example ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥Brilliant. We need more Real people like you speak and represent India more Mr. Prithvi people like you should get more support and more platforms to voice your words out. We are fed up of Fake ppl sitting and crying over their fake struggle stories. Prithvi don’t let them Bully you into a corner and Silence you at any cost. We real ppl will support you.
What are you saying, he wants to destroy the Indian taste of movies. Even RRR was over the top but still the foreign audience loved it same way nothing wrong in that cinema
Rani’s rant was not necessary. She got offended for no reason. Prithvi just meant the ideas in Iranian cinema are better. That was his opinion, nothing to get offended.
I didn't get why rani said what she said, after all if he's been invited then his views has to be respected. Rani, Karan and taapsee will give many interviews to the point of having verbal diarrhea. The least they could do is just let Prithvi have his say and move on. For me Prithvi meant that Indian cinema his more potential and 100x chance to get recognition and respect all over the world. If a small country that doesn't have freedom of speech or is problematic when it comes to cinema, still filmmakers make wonderful films that reaches high level of respect. Indian cinema has all the resources to do better than a country like Iran.
Exactly! And the tangent of diversity in our cinema she went down to didn't even make sense, rather out of place. Sure we have diversity, just like cinema all over the world has. He was making a different point altogether.
Exactly!!! These people always take over and start talking over the others, I was expecting Prithvi to say something back, shows how much Rani listens, she just feels obligated to present her own pov and not listen to others@@Finnola
Whenever, Karan is in a roundtable. You know he can lighten the mood, he can laugh on himself barring him being cinematic genius. Had a great time watching!
But the main issue with him is that when he asked a simple question, he goes way too long with his answer on and on with his stories he told in every other of his interviews. In the beginning interviewer asked him about his 25 year career, but Karan starts to telling him about process of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai for 10 minutes straight..
After listening to Rima and others, I hope Rani understands that how privileged she is and she sounds. Worried about her daughter waking up at 6 in the cold for online school 😅. Most of the kids wake up at 6 or 7 to go to school and she is not waking up in a tent in the cold but in an air conditioned room. Hope she learnt something by listening to others about how they struggled for years to make a film.
I like her as an artist but in every interview she makes the same points, I found her very ignorant trying to be preachy about cinema having not even watched about films made by other panelists.
Tbh Prithvi mentions the Iranian movies because of the rawness. 12th fail is a great story but acting wise, Iranian actors and directors are on another level. Indian Cinema has a long way to go for audience to become that mature to consume raw action.
I really enjoyed the roundtable more because of Jude, Prithvi and Rima - such underrated gems. I also felt Rani did not understand what Prithvi was trying to say, India has the potential to be the place where best cinemas could be made and there are no shortage of ideas/stories but how many of those ideas are being translated into films? Coming from big studios like Yash raj I don't think she understands how people who try to make the 'different kind of films' have to struggle to make audience even acknowledge such films, I think Prithvi was trying to suggest how Iranians pick ideas from their real life scenarios and translate them into such movies, whereas, the bigger studioheads in India are very worried about the business aspect of cinemas, I mean out of 100s of films made, 12th fail was only one such movies that she could quote which was again made by a prolific filmmaker like VVC. I felt he was trying to say that within the cinema ecosystem, there is a need to support all types of cinemas instead of giving thrust to movies that is targeted at only making money, this would be 'healthier' for everybody.
Unpopular opinion- k Jo is a true movie lover and the way he appreciates Rajamouli or Sandeep vanga films shows his genuineness. Looking forward to see many more good movies from him. Keep rocking !
Karan has always been like that, of course he favor some ppl, but it's only human to favor ur near and dear!! I wld do everything in my capacity to support my frnds and family
Here's the thing, he's no doubt a nepotism launch pad... But when it comes to movies, he's always open minded and to be honest, the smartest director of bollywood... Karan Johar knew how to make family dramas even in 2023...
What a wonderful conversation! Enjoyed listening to the filmmakers from such diverse backgrounds. The only downer was RANI MUKHERJEE towards the end. It felt like she just wouldn't shut up! Felt like an over-eager graduate in a group discussion who made a point which wasn't lapped up by everyone and she couldn't take it. Constantly butting, which felt disrespectful to the other speakers. Even BR had to call out names of other speakers so they got a chance to answer the final question.
@@arunmohanan4328indian films suck, there i said it now what? Just because we are from india and are indians we should only say about the positives of indian films? And which great malayalam films should he look? Alone? King of kotha? Kaduva? Lucifer? Lol😂
@@arunmohanan4328Have you seen what Koreans and Japanese do with 100cr. And here we have 70 year old grandpas dancing with girls who's their granddaughter's age. Iranian cinema is peak cinema . Rani Mukherjee, who don't obviously watch anything other than Hindi can't understand.
@@Amalandibrakumbhagbai nights super deluxe so many more of you want i can give a whole lot of list some people have habit of degrading indigenous things you are one of them having constructive criticism is different than hating commerical cinema is absolutely trash no doubt on it but the indie films are some of good look at Assamese movie called kotha Nadi or Bengali movies of satyajeet ray
Rani seems to be so full of herself in this interview. The way she speaks over others and interrupts Prithvi and claiming Indian films are the best in the world. Even Satyajit Ray would laugh at her statement.
yea what kind of bullshit argument is "oh I think Indian cinema is the best" like NO, even if you love your country or whatever, there is much out there in world cinema that a dumb, thick-brain Rani prolly is not even aware of. What a pity!
Rani Mukherjee is so ‘EGOISTIC’. She is taking the notion of being a tigress a bit too far & not stopping at lecturing at every stage..Calm down lady & let other prolific ppl talk too without u interrupting them at every stage
@@parmodthakur9763rani mukherjee dis not do any substantial movie in her career ,only commercial stuff ,so she should not comment when someone from an indie background is placing his opinion.I am a bengalia and she has only done 2 bengali movies in her career ,never contributed properly to our bengali regional cinema .She has no right to talk about out saryajit roy legacy
Sandeep Reddy is one of the most articulate minds here though haters hate his movies but his understanding of the craft is second to none. He represents Telugu cinema really well nationally.
Rani misunderstood Prithvi's point of view. I see the family in A Separation directed by Asghar as my own family and identify with their story and characters the same way I relate to Malayalam cinema. Rani should understand that good storytelling that is rooted are important than budget based films. He means that Iranian films have low budget and they struggle to exist when filmmakers and writers are working in a country where freedom of speech or their own profession is threatened by the government. Still they make good movies that found audience around the world.
Rani had more of a valid point. If you make Iranian style movie, it will definitely travel to film festivals but its very hard to make money and here Prithvi is struggling with that with his current movie also and getting audiences in theater. Rather follow what we already have in roots of India and make it more Indian than any other country. Make realistic but also make it attractive to get audiences in theater.
Agreed that we had filmmakers like Satyajit Ray here in India. Prithvi's noble hope is to get back there and making such rooted films again.. Prithvi sir is already doing that. Rani Mukherjee can't defend present day Indian cinema by taking example of a great past. How many years can we simply push on with the great Ray's shadows? She clearly misunderstood Prithvi sir's concerns. He didn't speak anything wrong to offend her. Hope she gets to watch Prithvi's brilliant Railway Children, Pinki Elli?, Seventeeners, sure her notion on him will change!
prithvi spitted truths like dostoevsky! "if somebody has been fed on burgers from day 1, then to bring them to rotis" is hard ends all the arguments. I am not sure if the other panellists really understand the gravity of this statement. truths are bitter as usual! We need more interviews with prithvi! one of the original and honest voice!!!!
Prithivi is also delusional on thinking just because you make rooted movie it's creative or good story telling people forget good story cannot be Bound by being rooted it's creative
Rima just rocked. She just took the interview to another level with her views about movies and the audience. The way Prithvi, Jude, and Rima talked about their struggle and their films, is just amazing. Thanks to the interviewer for making this happen.
Rani talks like a politician. Sab achhe hai main achhi hu industry achhi hai tum chup karo aur sab apne ghar jao. This is her basic attitude when asked anything that needs a realistic answer not an idealistic one.
Never heard of Rima before this roundtable but man, she is so admirable for her thought process and understanding of cinema. Going to go watch everything she's made now.
Rani going on a tangent to what Prithvi said was so unnecessary, that too backed with no sense. Up until then she had already bored with several terrible answers, but this was the tipping point for me.
I can’t believe I’ve watched all the interviews Sandeep has been in. At first I just liked Animal based on my expectations being met of the film. I was then very surprised by the huge backlash that followed by the feminist critics of the film who just bashed the film on the “women” angle ignoring all the other aspects. I’ve watched Animal twice more and managed to pick up so many details that Sandeep had mentioned in his interviews. This man is a genius in terms of filmmaking, even RGV said so. He’s the first director that I’m really a fan of. The man really has a hardcore personality !!😂😂
Same I had mixed feelings initially but after a week of watching it I realized this movie is constantly circulating in my mind and I decided to watch it again and loved it. Now listening to SRV explaining his thoughts and technicalities behind it has upped my love for the movie
Worst movie of 2023 is animal...utterly cheap and disgusting shit movie it is...people applauding it are perverts and suffer inferiority because of women getting ahead in everything
i didnt hate the movie but the problem is the writing was really goddamn weak in second half it just went in some random direction leaving father-son duo behind. And unfortunately i dont think sandeep or any other cast member will even change it because people who rant against tht film give very vague and weak reasons.
00:01 Discussion on Jude's experience with the Oscar campaign 02:44 Challenges of marketing and funding a film 07:16 Creating unique trailers that sell emotion 09:44 Directing a compelling trailer 13:48 Costume designer's interesting encounter with Shuk 15:37 Adaptation of Shakespeare in the climax scene 19:06 Karan's passion for his first film and the connection with the actors 20:49 Salman's unexpected role in the movie 24:59 Challenges in releasing movies without big stars 26:37 Balancing profit and market value in film production 30:29 Investing in indie cinema and breaking through with genre films 32:08 Challenges of getting a film a bigger release 35:57 A woman's struggle to bring back her children made an impact on the media 37:43 Highlighting the struggles of families living abroad 41:05 Filmmakers are responsible to ensure producers make money 43:01 Crowdfunding and combining festival films for cost-effective release strategy 46:38 Strategic approach to promoting and releasing Pinky Ali. 48:32 Filmmakers discussing their approach to storytelling 52:24 The core of the movie revolves around a father-son relationship with an unsettling love story angle. 54:22 Discussion about the approach of today's generation towards love 58:05 Taapsee's admiration for the film 'Animal' 59:56 Importance of conviction in filmmaking 1:03:32 Challenges faced during the shooting of the song 1:05:06 Adapting to acting opposite a revered co-star 1:08:54 Actors discussing their approach to rehearsing and performing emotions 1:11:00 Creating a supportive environment for actors 1:15:36 Discussion about handling criticism and box office success 1:17:21 Dealing with criticism and trolling in the film industry 1:21:03 Industry criticism affects filmmakers' passion 1:23:03 Filmmakers seek validation and opinions from industry professionals 1:26:52 Critique of film reviews and the impact of biased opinions 1:28:39 PR sending own people for film praise 1:32:09 Audience acceptance and support as a driving force 1:33:59 Personal growth and film choices 1:37:29 Actors juggling personal life and tackling crime 1:39:28 Prefer commercial films with a touch of realism 1:43:01 12th Fail is a brilliant film capturing the struggles of Indian youth 1:44:58 Indian Cinema's diversity and uniqueness 1:48:39 Relatable content and audience engagement 1:50:26 Make films with passion and not just as a project 1:54:51 Aspiring to make grand films and the importance of trust and creative process 1:57:16 Focus on telling diverse, untold stories in films. 2:01:37 Continuous learning and versatility as a filmmaker 2:03:35 Pride in diverse cinema industry
So happy to see Jude getting recognition which he deserves. Was already a fan of his after watching Ohm Shanti Oshana. He has come a long way since then❤❤
Came for SRV but ended up watching Prithvi konnanurs speech . He was so genuine and pure . I think Rani Mukerjee was misunderstood him . He only said we should learn from Iranian films there is nothing wrong with his words.literally there is no one to support him in the panel . 😢😢
Yes he was just saying budget has nothing to do with innovation and rani took it different way. She also comes from a privileged background so has little idea about how tough it is to make a film without large support
Exactly. I hated the interview right from there. Rani, with her privilege is not aware of where his words are coming from. I think Rima tried to support him in a way without offending the high table panel. Saying, we should be telling films from all over the country by mixing it with her aspirations of making big cinema. I think people are scared of KJ. Otherwise, Tapsee, Alphonse, Rima, and Prithvi would've agreed to the point of Iranian films. Rani shouldn't have been in this panel at all. And making films around that 1% should stop. One 12th Fail, or another small Hindi film is not enough.
He has a point but rani is just saying things that isn't practical. She also misunderstood him, Indian cinema has different individual industries based on their own community. It's very different as an audience I'm confused as to what defines an "indian" film. I know malayalam and Tamil cinema due to the community, culture and language understanding. I can relate to their stories, even though I've no idea what happens in Assam I could still relate it due to good storytelling. That comes down to ott exposure of various films around the world when even though nobody is informed about Iran, their movies have resonated with everyone. I see a family in A Separation by Asghar as my own family and identify with their story and characters the same way I relate to Malayalam cinema.
Lol have you seen satyajit Ray's any movies but you are calling out her she categorically said India is so diverse what is working for malyalam, iranian film will not work for Bengali, odia,himachali,Punjabi or other states film.film is not only about documentary type.kannada guy is great in what he makes but doesn't mean others are not.for eg what he told about two adults make porn videos leaked, caste issue,court drama with rooted connection but you are making with Kannada background that will not connect more with Bengali(not bhadralok)or East Indian people or European, Americans(exception are everywhere who like). bcoz those people have different background,for eg in Bengali societies caste are there but they are more divided on bhadralok or not,most of votes are not on caste issues til now, party politics is more divided than caste,you have no basic rights if your party lose, your life on stake.there societies work different than other societies.in bihar once many certain sc,obc caste were too powerful to even stand chance against them no matter which caste you are but it doesn't mean Kannada have same society.poor are everywhere but all poor are not Same,Poor in USA have very different background, culture,mind what we have in India.
There's nothing called pan India. India was created by the British and you need the British given language to communicate with dozens of historically, racially, culturally and linguistically separated nations forced inside the Zoo India. Oh, this Zoo stay one is also being maintained by the British given army and RAW.
57:42 - 1:01:32 People may hate Karan Johar as a person but as a director his take on Animal and Vanga is captivating. He spoke like a true student of craft.
Yeah brother actually he is genius people may troll him or hate him but he analyses the film like a genius who actually knows the craft of directors and his vision example he talked about animal movie. Making a simple narrative story into vast and complex content with that suspense and brilliance of Sandeep as director with great originality and great music sense. Putting a sad and emotional song in the climax during the fight sequence between ranvijay and Abrar fits perfectly. If he is at time of scripting or narrating the story to an actor he may find it odd but that is what a brilliant director thinks doing such a thing which people may think odd at the beginning that talks about the director's originality. If we talk about Punjab pind scene that is such a beautiful scene with Ranbir entering with that Punjabi song and leaving the pind with his cousin with use of that background score using electric drums. When i saw the teaser first two expressions of Ranbir I said to my friend that I am sold. But people talk about misogynistic and feminist. A movie should be watched for entertainment purposes not what impact he will put on society. A movie can't change the mindset of people. It changes those who already have bad thoughts in their mind and those who have good thoughts in their mind. Then we have to talk about films made in Hollywood like knock knock,wild, roma etc they also showed misogyny and feminism a director with that originality should not be trolled I think
One thing which got cleared from this roundtable is that everyone in the industry are fed up with the critics and reviewers. They are secretly enjoying it when sandeep reddy vanga raises his voice against these groups😂😂
I never expected Karan to be the one praising Sandeep’s filmmaking abilities when they make films of polar opposite ends and are totally different people. This speaks volumes of Karan’s judgment of cinema which is better than all the so called critics!
Depends on with whom he is sitting with. He has already criticized Kabir Singh many times. If it was Anupama Chopra interview, he would be saying opposite.
It is Ranbir Kapoor for whom Karan is vouching. He has vested interests. I don't like Sandeep's world of characterisation even if the craft is good. Craft can't be separated from what you have to say. Then a lot of bad Tamil and Telugu films will be appreciated for their technical finesse. But only good stories are loved. Animal is proof for tthe kind of men we live with. Those whose egos need to be fed and need constant validation due to poor upbringing
Good to see Rima , Hope to see More Guest from Bengali , Odia , Assamese, Gujrati , Marathi.. , from different languages industries. Not only 3- 4 industries.
Best part of this roundtable is having filmmakers like Rima Das and Prithvi Konanur in the same roundtable which has these big mainstream filmmakers like Karan Johar.
This is the worst part I think.. I am sure others haven't even watched the kind of rooted films Rima and Prithvi are constantly making... So they are not able to understand what they meant..
@@meballf-nareshpeople that click the videos to watch the mainstream directors will come to know about the indie directors too. So this is a win win situation i guess
Sad to see Pruthvi sir not getting recognised in the Kannada film industry. This is the situation of our industry even after humungous hits like Kgf and Kantara.
@@Yuvakiranranawho was representing Telugu ? Sandeep ? But he said Animal is Bollywood movie He is yet to make another Telugu movie. Prashanth Neel would've been more appropriate - for both KGF and Salaar .
rani got too offended, but definitely india is way behind other countries. we make mostly crap movies or copied movies. and although she mentioned satyajit ray, not sure she knows that he said "indian audience is the most unsophisticated audience with no taste' which is true.
It's so funny that in last year's round table Hemanth rao expressed how making people saying kannada cinema instead of kannad cinema was a big thing, a year later Rani talking about all language cinemas coming together as indian cinema says kannad cinema
I'm glad that Jude Anthony explained the experience of going out in the awards circuit in the west. At the end its not as straightforward as watching and liking the movies. There are too many movies for juries to see and then choose, at the end most of the movies who have promotion dollars can only go so far as making it to final films choosen for Oscar nominations. Also juries have their top countries like European cinema and then in Korea and Japan from Asia. Theres a preference for filmmakers like Pedro Almodovar from Spain and others who have only done non-english films but are household names in the west.
I somehow did not like the patronizing attitude of Rani. She could be an achiever. But, the way she ranted after a participant shared his point of view and going on prompting words when Rima was expressing her opinion was a bit much to take. They, in my opinion, are greater achievers as they came up without any patronizing.
Raani just triggered and unleashed her inner animal/bully after hearing one should watch iranian films from pruthvi..and went on till the end with single agenda😅
Dine the ither side of Raniji ❤❤🎉, but i was nd still big fan of her even now i dont care wht other people think of her🎉🎉😢❤❤, She nd Aishwarya,😢 Karishma k r my fav❤❤
Karan speaking great things about Animal was something I'm not prepared for... Also I'm so fascinated about the amount of mutual respect they share. I'm pretty sure they have different perspectives towards art but the way they maintained professionalism is so admirable... Thanks Baddy man, only you could such! Top work.
As a huge fan of Indian Cinema, (all languages) it is disheartening to hear OTT are not taking "smaller" films because often the 'smaller" films don't play in my city (Minneapolis). OTT is the only way I would see an Assamese film and the Kanada films talked about here. (We got Kantara and KGF) Its also hit or miss whether we get Malayalam films playing here. Its tragic that DVDs are rarely made too. I wish OTT platforms made sure EVERYTHING they stream is subtitled.
@1:41:54 the guy literally trolled entire bollywood lobby. We need such people who put forth Talented people do their job rather nepokids talking rubbish about everything
After watching this roundtable, Anil Sharma has decided to cast Rani in Gadar 3 where she will go to Iran and destroy their film industry with a handpump
I don't understand why Rani felt offended at Prithvi, he was telling exactly the same thing a minute ago. Find rooted stories and Iranians are doing it. He didn't say Indian movies are worse than Iranian movies. Also, I wanted to hear more from Prithvi, Jude and Sandeep more but Karan and Rani kept talking and I had to skip those parts!!
Lately, I can't stand Rani's interviews. She's sitting on this high horse like a Queen judging everyone. She needs to have the last word, everyone needs to agree with her. Extremely annoying!
The biggest win of this roundtable was giving a forum to Prithvi and Rima. I'm still waiting to watch movies like Pinki elli and Pedro that have won so many awards but still haven't got a proper release. And Karan talking with such levelheadedness and passion is always refreshing.
It shows how dissociated these actors are when Rani did not know even know about the case on which she made it, which was widely covered in news - both electronic and print. The simple answer to Rani is how many Persian movies she has seen and how rooted they are - the likes of Majid Majidi and Asghar Farhadi!
I understood his point and also why others misinterpreted as belittling indian cinema or comparing. Seems like Prithvi sees Indian cinema having better chances to win oscars if Iranian cinema has 2 and also the recognition and respect. If Iranian cinema can go from being anonymous to that level of recognition and respect than India can do 100x better and has more potential than Iran. Atleast in India the government is not restricting freedom of speech and arts.
@@Finnolawhy are your a** on fire Iran movies are genuinely good if u haven't watched them u can't comment on that and it was unnecessary to bring the freedom thing atleast they have won Oscar's so don't show your insecurity and bollywood has remade an iranian film that is children of heaven in bam bam bole something like that Persian cinema is very superior indian cinema can never come close to it
Brilliantly put together roundtable.wonderful seeing Jude and Rima.And so beautifully hosted. Thank you very much and looking forward to many more like this.
Good to see Rani and Sandeep together. Movies like Mardaani and Animal are poles apart but that is the real beauty of movies on celluloid I believe, what one believes need to be displayed! Vouching for this combo for a near future project 🤞
Rani in Mardaani is like a Tigress/ Lioness. Remove the tunnel-vision from your NARROW-mind & you will be ABLE to see a lot of character similarities rather than superficial differences. 🫵🏽🤡🤬🖕🏽🤣
Prithvi got bullied almost by the end of roundtable 😢 He just stated his opinion U didn't have to nullify that to that extreme extent What he meant was Iranian movies are better than indian in terms of storytelling What's wrong in that? U think Indian movies are in the best in the world Others might not think so
Indian films have more reach compared to iranian films and also Our films cater to a wide range of audiences you want good content and Oscar worthy movies watch Malayalam films, you want Commercial films watch Hindi, Telugu and Tamil
@@TheKing-cm4uo Which Malayalam film has won an oscar so far? Please don't talk about 2018. It didn't make it to the shortlist and also it was a pity gift to Malayalam film.
Kudos to Baddy for beinging such diverse panel together! So fresh and unique mix of talent. Baddy has conscioulsy put efforts to stand out from other roundtables ❤
Jude deserves all the success and more! Such a good roundtable. Baddy is the only person they will all come together. Baddy truly is the greatest of all time!
i completely agree with mr.prithiv here indian cinema is not even best in asia chinese korean japnese are making better flims after satyajith rao we don't have any great directors who makes rooted and grounded flims also iranian flims are very good in showing emotional side of people hindi cinema actors, directors has no rights to talk about rooted cinema. all this amazing nepo actros should go and live in hindi heartland for few months to know about roots. especially karan johar SRK 90s era ruined bollywood with romcom which worked well and they forgot other genre flims.
Tyagi girl and Anupama Chopra crying from the corner by seeing Mr. Rangan got the opportunity for this kind of meaningful roundtable from great artists😄
Nope. They must be laughing from the corner that inspite of having made so much money from his mediocre movie, this guy Vanga is still so vexed with them for not liking his movie m
If only he hadn't been bullied out of the conversation, I would have loved to hear more from Prithvi. I get what he is saying and the day someone says, "I am the best!", is the day they stop growing. P.S. Satyajit Ray is unfortunately no more and we cannot afford to rest on his laurels forever.
Rani is so arrogant and catty! People are allowed to have other points of view. Just because one film maker expresses his views dosent make it sacrosanct, listen and don’t deride. If you don’t agree that’s fine put your point across no need to vehemently deny the other persons truth.
Kudos to BR for hosting this epic roundtable! Bringing together such diverse filmmakers and actors is like assembling the Avengers of the entertainment world. BR's exceptional speed of thought makes him the standout, but the mystery lies in his origin. Instead of focusing on Mars, people should explore the possibility of life on BR's home planet.
There's nothing called pan India. India was created by the British and you need the British given language to communicate with dozens of historically, racially, culturally and linguistically separated nations forced inside the Zoo India. Oh, this Zoo stay one is also being maintained by the British given army and RAW.
I had watched Pinki Elli in theatres and really liked it. Prithvi sir has crafted a very impressive film which explores the basic essence of story telling from the common man's perspective.
@@rahasinghania encouraged his sisters that they are strong and independent, literally fell on his wife's feet for forgiveness....how is he a misogynist?? If you still say ranvijay is woman hater then You are too brainwashed or didn't even watched the film
@@Sai_0961.Tried to take chances on a woman that was already engaged. 2.Encourages sisters to be independent yet orders his wife to not get remarried if he dies. 3.CHEATS ON HIS WIFE and Tries to justify it. 4.Records intimate moments between of them. 5.Pulling Bra straps,Period insults etc 6.Threatens a PREGNANT WOMAN. These are all I could remember on top of my head. If I rewatch it again then I might find more but I ain't watching that shit again. l
@@imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455 1. Never happened in the movie which movie did you saw lol? 2. He didn't demand his wife to not marry lol...at that time he doesn't know if he could survive but he did let her leave him in the end and she did left him 3. He didn't justify his cheating...he confessed that what he did was a mistake and he was honest...he didn't even needed to say truth if he wanted to hide it.. 4. His wife seemed fine with it and it's a private thing and he didn't showcased it to everyone and how is it misogynistic? Do you even know the meaning of misogyny? 5. Rashmika hit him many times in the movie but you had no problem with it? You feminists... sorry misandrists only point out the half baked scenes...did you remember the position of Ranbir when he did that? He lost 3 out of 5 senses, in search for heart transplant, literally doctors put a pipe inside him for urination...and her parents talk shit about him and she lies to him and he was so disturbed both mentally and physically 6. At that moment he literally became an animal...and they wouldn't have said the truth if he didn't do that and they only call the ambulance for the pregnant woman..if you really watched carefully you would realise that they wouldn't have said the truth unless their lives are threatened I also agree that the cheating part did disturbed the film and was unnecessary and it made the film looked stretched But calling film straight out misogynistic without even mentioning the good parts is pure hypocrisy and hate...and yes abrar is a misogynist and he was meant to ...not protagonist...as vanga said only men haters aka misandrists call this film misogynistic
@@tony-pc4kd I think towards the end Rima das summed up very well. I agree with her. She is open to ideas, like how a good director should be and unlike prithvi who thinks certain films are only good. And Rani Mukerji or any other main stream actor for the matter cannot pull off the films he has written convincingly.
Rani saying Indian films are the greatest without watching even one Iranian film is just plain ignorance. Rani Mukerji may be strongly opinionated but she is very ill informed and has very less ability to think. Such women just blabber something and feel as though they have made correct statements
A strong woman who only expresses opinions without knowing facts and analysis surely scares the living daylights out of me...they can't be debated with...😂
I think this is the problem with some people in Bollywood. They intervene and try to prove a point. The director said we should watch Iranian films and see how they are good in terms of ideas. That's it. He did not say anything to demean Indian films. But Rani has started a lecture about the diversity of India and Indian films as if she only knows about our country. Everybody in the panel loves India and the Indian films.
Yeah right?… even I made a similar comment… mr Prithvi must have watched vast amount of indian cinema and Iranian cinema and he must have arrived at a conclusion that Iranian cinema is better than Indian cinema… atleast in his opinion…. So he will be in a right position to compare indian and Iranian cinema and justify with logical facts why in his opinion Iranian cinema is better than Indian cinema..: in a general scenario, Rani’s opinion could be different from what Prithvi said… but whether her opinion was formed in a right way with sufficient amount of case studies? To my understand, NO…. I am damn sure she would not have seen not even a single Iranian movie, let alone watching various cinema across the world…. But went to bluntly bragging indian cinema is best in the world… NO, unless you equally know each and every kind of other cinema all over the world … you cannot say whether our Indian cricket team is best in the world or not, when you don’t know about Australian cricket team, South African cricket team etc…. This is the problem with majority of Indians… we don’t arrive at opinions based on proper logical, rational and reasonable facts… rather we just go with what we know as the “facts” 😂… we don’t accept the reality particularly if it is against our country or culture or religion
When Prithvi talked about Iranian cinema, he didn't mean disrespect to Indian cinema. Most of our directors and actors get inspired from Hollywood etc. He was merely suggesting to explore Iranian cinema as an alternate. No need to bring diversity card of India and say that we have no need to learn from others. Not the way to express a point. 12th fail is a biopic and as a consequence has to come from our roots. If she had brought up a Vettrimaran movie and asked Prithvi to watch such fictional movies grounded in roots, it would have made sense to me. Felt that it is truly uncalled for to dismiss a co-artist like that.
How can thappad taapsee and animal vanga co exist in the same interview😶
She would have acted in Kabir Singh if chance was given
Same thought bro😂
Because her next film was haseen dilruba and it's another proof that actors/actresses don't give a f*ck about the society if they like the story and sees the scope that the film will help their career to grow they will do any type of film 😅
She's an opportunistic person, if given a chance , she would've done a role in SRVanga movies
@@youtubeprem522 bhai cinema cinema hoti hai wo samaj bdlne ka kaam nhi krti
Sandeep Reddy Vanga and Animal related time stamps:
08:28 - Vanga speech
52:38 - Vanga speech
57:42 to 1:01:33 - Karan Johar about Animal
1:13:27 - Vanga speech
1:27:22 - Vanga speech
1:59:11 - Vanga answer question 1:45:51
You are a hero
Thanks buddy 😂😂😂😂
Thank You 😋
U r hero my boy 💯
Thank you. I will avoid these timestamps 😂
Vanga and kjo together on a roundtable. Wow man bhardwaj rangan and his company people are genius
Omg Rani Mukherjee did a Kajol on this one! Just after she had shown so much poise on Koffee with Karan. I started off loving the podcast and now I am a bit bummed. I wanted to hear everyone else more but sigh! That snub to Prithvi was so inappropriate- this is a round table not a debate. Look at Rima, what class!
What we saw in KwK seemed like poise only because Kajol was terrible. Rani has always been crass and arrogant, without much of intelligence to back it up with.
@@charanakula4817Exactly. Just blabbering her opinions for the sake of it. Arrogant woman.
Nothing beats tapsee agreeing to sandeep😂 and him ignoring her
Also it was appropriate.the malayalam guy explained it better .prithvi was in wrong and he made it a debate with a sweeping remark .by his own definition his movies are crap as its indian movie and not iranian.the mallu guy has made movies like prithvi too .a good cinema is good cinema not just a particular type of cinema.same was said by assamese lady .indian audience is diverse andnall kinda cinema exist here and does well too ..many indie tamil and malayalam movies have done wonderful numbers even .the prithvi guy was hating on bollywood
Her poise in Koffee with Karan comes from her intimidation ...she is intimidated by Kajol in every interview they are together
Rani doesn't want others to have an opinion she just wants everyone to have the same opinion as hers.
And she kept looking for validation from everyone else on her opinion.
True
She is ALPHA GIRL🔥
Opressor 🔥
Typical commie @@dondio_racer4320
Bhardwaj Rangan is turning out to be a true star. He is rocking and love his questions and the way conversation is flowing. Loved this roundatable, best across all platforms to date in 2023
I'm from Assam and it made me 😭 tears to see Rima Das to see her in Mega Pan India Roundtable 2023...
So proud of her 🎉🎉❤
same bro, bahut dangar honour
rima das at the roundtable.. it's a huge leap forward for assamese cinema..
Um kla
Good thing to including Cinema from languages like Assamese , Bengali, Odia ...
yes❤️ Axomiya
Long due
Nope its a great leap for indian cinema.... Look at her craft..... She is a genius.... Very soft spoken ......❤ Her and entire Assam
1:48:22 well done 👍 BRAVO 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻what an example ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥Brilliant. We need more Real people like you speak and represent India more Mr. Prithvi people like you should get more support and more platforms to voice your words out. We are fed up of Fake ppl sitting and crying over their fake struggle stories.
Prithvi don’t let them Bully you into a corner and Silence you at any cost. We real ppl will support you.
mic drop seen
What are you saying, he wants to destroy the Indian taste of movies. Even RRR was over the top but still the foreign audience loved it same way nothing wrong in that cinema
who all felt that rani mukherjee here was cliched and cringe worthy. She is busy giving karan johar validation instead of giving her opinion
Interaction with Sandeep ready vanga
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1:59:11 vanga answer question 1:45:51
Thankssssss
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Thanks🔥🔥
Thank you brother
Rani’s rant was not necessary. She got offended for no reason. Prithvi just meant the ideas in Iranian cinema are better. That was his opinion, nothing to get offended.
Worst part is BR sucking up to her and completely letting down Prithvi. Sad 😢
I didn't get why rani said what she said, after all if he's been invited then his views has to be respected. Rani, Karan and taapsee will give many interviews to the point of having verbal diarrhea. The least they could do is just let Prithvi have his say and move on. For me Prithvi meant that Indian cinema his more potential and 100x chance to get recognition and respect all over the world. If a small country that doesn't have freedom of speech or is problematic when it comes to cinema, still filmmakers make wonderful films that reaches high level of respect. Indian cinema has all the resources to do better than a country like Iran.
Exactly! And the tangent of diversity in our cinema she went down to didn't even make sense, rather out of place. Sure we have diversity, just like cinema all over the world has. He was making a different point altogether.
@@akpcindiavery eloquent is what he said, and i gagged.
Exactly!!! These people always take over and start talking over the others, I was expecting Prithvi to say something back, shows how much Rani listens, she just feels obligated to present her own pov and not listen to others@@Finnola
Whenever, Karan is in a roundtable. You know he can lighten the mood, he can laugh on himself barring him being cinematic genius.
Had a great time watching!
But the main issue with him is that when he asked a simple question, he goes way too long with his answer on and on with his stories he told in every other of his interviews. In the beginning interviewer asked him about his 25 year career, but Karan starts to telling him about process of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai for 10 minutes straight..
Aley baaple Karan ne apna Pappu chod diya hai comment section mein 😂😂
I've personally had enough of him. He's in every single roundtable, repeating the same stories and complaints over and over again
Cinematic Genius? Irony just died😅😅😅
Guys, stop reacting to this comment it is done by his PR team.
After listening to Rima and others, I hope Rani understands that how privileged she is and she sounds. Worried about her daughter waking up at 6 in the cold for online school 😅. Most of the kids wake up at 6 or 7 to go to school and she is not waking up in a tent in the cold but in an air conditioned room. Hope she learnt something by listening to others about how they struggled for years to make a film.
Going by the interview, she didn't.
I doubt it! She lives in her own bubble...sounds so illiterate!
SHE HERSELF FROM Middle CLASS
@@kaustubhraizadanope she is related to Kajol...they were comparatively rich
I like her as an artist but in every interview she makes the same points, I found her very ignorant trying to be preachy about cinema having not even watched about films made by other panelists.
Tbh Prithvi mentions the Iranian movies because of the rawness. 12th fail is a great story but acting wise, Iranian actors and directors are on another level. Indian Cinema has a long way to go for audience to become that mature to consume raw action.
No need for that it's just different taste and even rrr was over the top buy still the western audience liked it.
Timestamp?
I really enjoyed the roundtable more because of Jude, Prithvi and Rima - such underrated gems.
I also felt Rani did not understand what Prithvi was trying to say, India has the potential to be the place where best cinemas could be made and there are no shortage of ideas/stories but how many of those ideas are being translated into films? Coming from big studios like Yash raj I don't think she understands how people who try to make the 'different kind of films' have to struggle to make audience even acknowledge such films, I think Prithvi was trying to suggest how Iranians pick ideas from their real life scenarios and translate them into such movies, whereas, the bigger studioheads in India are very worried about the business aspect of cinemas, I mean out of 100s of films made, 12th fail was only one such movies that she could quote which was again made by a prolific filmmaker like VVC.
I felt he was trying to say that within the cinema ecosystem, there is a need to support all types of cinemas instead of giving thrust to movies that is targeted at only making money, this would be 'healthier' for everybody.
I agree, I felt she wasn't very kind after that.
Absolutely. Not just Iranian cinema, even Korean cinema gets acknowledged much more at internationally than Indian cinema. Eg parasite
Absolutely. Not just Iranian cinema, even Korean cinema gets acknowledged much more at internationally than Indian cinema. Eg parasite
Absolutely. Not just Iranian cinema, even Korean cinema gets acknowledged much more at internationally than Indian cinema. Eg parasite
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Rani answered evey 1 mark question as 10 marks question for no reason... 😂
Sad that most of the Kannada audience don’t know about pinki elli movie..nice to see Prithvi sir ..
Hope it will reach more audiences soon❤
How can we come to know we as kannadigas have to be active on social media so people come know about it
Where to watch it??
Unpopular opinion- k Jo is a true movie lover and the way he appreciates Rajamouli or Sandeep vanga films shows his genuineness. Looking forward to see many more good movies from him. Keep rocking !
Karan has always been like that, of course he favor some ppl, but it's only human to favor ur near and dear!! I wld do everything in my capacity to support my frnds and family
Here's the thing, he's no doubt a nepotism launch pad... But when it comes to movies, he's always open minded and to be honest, the smartest director of bollywood... Karan Johar knew how to make family dramas even in 2023...
@@Besties591but Telugu online media is more toxic in spreading negativity
@@manishsuresh4996 we doesn't spread any negativity bro , recently srk paid batches are spreading more negativity and corporate bookings
@@manishsuresh4996so says a cinematic genius 😂😂😂
What a wonderful conversation! Enjoyed listening to the filmmakers from such diverse backgrounds. The only downer was RANI MUKHERJEE towards the end. It felt like she just wouldn't shut up! Felt like an over-eager graduate in a group discussion who made a point which wasn't lapped up by everyone and she couldn't take it. Constantly butting, which felt disrespectful to the other speakers. Even BR had to call out names of other speakers so they got a chance to answer the final question.
She gave a valid reply to the kannada giy .by his own definition his movies are bad bcz its indian and not iranian
Rani was talking like a psycho, I still don't know why she got so offended.
@@arunmohanan4328indian films suck, there i said it now what? Just because we are from india and are indians we should only say about the positives of indian films?
And which great malayalam films should he look? Alone? King of kotha? Kaduva? Lucifer? Lol😂
@@arunmohanan4328Have you seen what Koreans and Japanese do with 100cr. And here we have 70 year old grandpas dancing with girls who's their granddaughter's age. Iranian cinema is peak cinema . Rani Mukherjee, who don't obviously watch anything other than Hindi can't understand.
@@Amalandibrakumbhagbai nights super deluxe so many more of you want i can give a whole lot of list some people have habit of degrading indigenous things you are one of them having constructive criticism is different than hating commerical cinema is absolutely trash no doubt on it but the indie films are some of good look at Assamese movie called kotha Nadi or Bengali movies of satyajeet ray
Rani seems to be so full of herself in this interview. The way she speaks over others and interrupts Prithvi and claiming Indian films are the best in the world. Even Satyajit Ray would laugh at her statement.
Bad to be a nationalist ?
@@rajarshisyam5093not at all but you can always learn from other’s perspectives too otherwise you comeoff narrow minded
Satyajit ray was also influenced by Italian cinema. Don't believe me? Watch aparajito , a 2022 bengali biography movie on Satyajit ray
@@rajarshisyam5093it's not, but blind belief makes one stupid. Of course the best films are not only in India
Rani thinks she is the mother of Indian cinema....
She always acts in her interviews..here her mask comes off
lol! Rani went on a mad rant again and just refused to listen about the intricacies of Iranian cinema and continued to not listen.
yea what kind of bullshit argument is "oh I think Indian cinema is the best" like NO, even if you love your country or whatever, there is much out there in world cinema that a dumb, thick-brain Rani prolly is not even aware of. What a pity!
52:38 - Vanga speech
57:42 to 1:01:33 - Karan Johar about Animal
1:13:27 - Vanga speech
1:27:22 - Vanga speech
1:59:11 - Vanga answer question 1:45:51
Rani Mukherjee is so ‘EGOISTIC’. She is taking the notion of being a tigress a bit too far & not stopping at lecturing at every stage..Calm down lady & let other prolific ppl talk too without u interrupting them at every stage
Yea she was so annoying
@@srinivasanayyan1987ur more annoying then her dude..why bother to watch the interview then
@@parmodthakur9763rani mukherjee dis not do any substantial movie in her career ,only commercial stuff ,so she should not comment when someone from an indie background is placing his opinion.I am a bengalia and she has only done 2 bengali movies in her career ,never contributed properly to our bengali regional cinema .She has no right to talk about out saryajit roy legacy
@@parmodthakur9763 Because to piss of Simps like you...🤣🤣🤣🤣
that's yrf speaking
Rani seems very arrogant, narrow minded and almost a bully. Liked everyone else’s opinions though!
We need a spin-off with just Karan and Sandeep! 😅
Rani just had a misunderstanding with the other guy her opinion on Chatterjee VS state of Norway was actually good and waht was actually happened
Sandeep Reddy is one of the most articulate minds here though haters hate his movies but his understanding of the craft is second to none. He represents Telugu cinema really well nationally.
He is next star director after ss rajamouli
I don't think he is average
Shitty Tollywood. No content. It's a total shit show.
Bro he is not representing telugu cinema 😂 he is representing his style of filmmaking 😂
He does not, telegu cinema is best represented by SSR, vanga is rgv lite, he will end like rgv.
I hated Rani Mukerji in this round table. She was a complete misfit and unnecessary. She bullied people and kept interrupting everyone.
She was a bully
@@varshabhagath 💯
She had a roundtable a couple of years back with dipika Alia n other actresses....she sounded cheap there too
Rani misunderstood Prithvi's point of view. I see the family in A Separation directed by Asghar as my own family and identify with their story and characters the same way I relate to Malayalam cinema. Rani should understand that good storytelling that is rooted are important than budget based films. He means that Iranian films have low budget and they struggle to exist when filmmakers and writers are working in a country where freedom of speech or their own profession is threatened by the government. Still they make good movies that found audience around the world.
Exactly, agree with you. Rani is speaking too much without understanding his p.o.v. After a point I got really bored of Rani's lecture.
True
She stuck like a sore thumb. I felt taapsi spoke better and was balanced.. Rani was just ranting only kjo cud speak more than her..
Rani had more of a valid point. If you make Iranian style movie, it will definitely travel to film festivals but its very hard to make money and here Prithvi is struggling with that with his current movie also and getting audiences in theater. Rather follow what we already have in roots of India and make it more Indian than any other country. Make realistic but also make it attractive to get audiences in theater.
Agreed that we had filmmakers like Satyajit Ray here in India. Prithvi's noble hope is to get back there and making such rooted films again.. Prithvi sir is already doing that. Rani Mukherjee can't defend present day Indian cinema by taking example of a great past. How many years can we simply push on with the great Ray's shadows? She clearly misunderstood Prithvi sir's concerns. He didn't speak anything wrong to offend her. Hope she gets to watch Prithvi's brilliant Railway Children, Pinki Elli?, Seventeeners, sure her notion on him will change!
prithvi spitted truths like dostoevsky! "if somebody has been fed on burgers from day 1, then to bring them to rotis" is hard ends all the arguments. I am not sure if the other panellists really understand the gravity of this statement. truths are bitter as usual! We need more interviews with prithvi! one of the original and honest voice!!!!
For me it's first such interviews they are creative
I don't relate with Indian action movies because 1 common men beat 1000 people without martial arts background
Prithivi is also delusional on thinking just because you make rooted movie it's creative or good story telling people forget good story cannot be Bound by being rooted it's creative
Rima just rocked. She just took the interview to another level with her views about movies and the audience. The way Prithvi, Jude, and Rima talked about their struggle and their films, is just amazing. Thanks to the interviewer for making this happen.
Rani talks like a politician. Sab achhe hai main achhi hu industry achhi hai tum chup karo aur sab apne ghar jao. This is her basic attitude when asked anything that needs a realistic answer not an idealistic one.
1:15:28 Sandeep Reddy Vanga aap del jeet leye 🔥🔥🔥.
Iss director ka fan ban gya mai ❤❤❤
Great roundtable. Rani was a downer though. Too much bluster. Her privilege was on very obvious display.
Rani is so full of herself and sandeep redddy is best 👌
I saved 30 mins by forwarding Rani's monologue. How much did she talk 😂😂
Me too 😂😂
Never heard of Rima before this roundtable but man, she is so admirable for her thought process and understanding of cinema. Going to go watch everything she's made now.
She's India's one of the finest filmakers.
But she was boring
@@tony-pc4kdboring ...u are a crack head kid😂
@@tony-pc4kd Geniuses often come across as boring. Don't bother!
I think people are appreciating her because she is underdog here relatively less known face. But nothing interesting
Rani going on a tangent to what Prithvi said was so unnecessary, that too backed with no sense. Up until then she had already bored with several terrible answers, but this was the tipping point for me.
was the story about a mother losing her children and how she could relate to it because she lost her child then a terrible for you?
I can’t believe I’ve watched all the interviews Sandeep has been in. At first I just liked Animal based on my expectations being met of the film. I was then very surprised by the huge backlash that followed by the feminist critics of the film who just bashed the film on the “women” angle ignoring all the other aspects. I’ve watched Animal twice more and managed to pick up so many details that Sandeep had mentioned in his interviews. This man is a genius in terms of filmmaking, even RGV said so. He’s the first director that I’m really a fan of. The man really has a hardcore personality !!😂😂
Same I had mixed feelings initially but after a week of watching it I realized this movie is constantly circulating in my mind and I decided to watch it again and loved it. Now listening to SRV explaining his thoughts and technicalities behind it has upped my love for the movie
@@abhilashpanda5758the hate the movie got made me love it even more, that now it has become one of my favourite movies. 😂
Worst movie of 2023 is animal...utterly cheap and disgusting shit movie it is...people applauding it are perverts and suffer inferiority because of women getting ahead in everything
right na! ? i was thinking the same the mord criticizm and negativity films get the more I love them @@ezerei2911
i didnt hate the movie but the problem is the writing was really goddamn weak in second half it just went in some random direction leaving father-son duo behind. And unfortunately i dont think sandeep or any other cast member will even change it because people who rant against tht film give very vague and weak reasons.
Rani with the dumbest takes …she basically proved the kannada guys point by not being acceptable of different povs
00:01 Discussion on Jude's experience with the Oscar campaign
02:44 Challenges of marketing and funding a film
07:16 Creating unique trailers that sell emotion
09:44 Directing a compelling trailer
13:48 Costume designer's interesting encounter with Shuk
15:37 Adaptation of Shakespeare in the climax scene
19:06 Karan's passion for his first film and the connection with the actors
20:49 Salman's unexpected role in the movie
24:59 Challenges in releasing movies without big stars
26:37 Balancing profit and market value in film production
30:29 Investing in indie cinema and breaking through with genre films
32:08 Challenges of getting a film a bigger release
35:57 A woman's struggle to bring back her children made an impact on the media
37:43 Highlighting the struggles of families living abroad
41:05 Filmmakers are responsible to ensure producers make money
43:01 Crowdfunding and combining festival films for cost-effective release strategy
46:38 Strategic approach to promoting and releasing Pinky Ali.
48:32 Filmmakers discussing their approach to storytelling
52:24 The core of the movie revolves around a father-son relationship with an unsettling love story angle.
54:22 Discussion about the approach of today's generation towards love
58:05 Taapsee's admiration for the film 'Animal'
59:56 Importance of conviction in filmmaking
1:03:32 Challenges faced during the shooting of the song
1:05:06 Adapting to acting opposite a revered co-star
1:08:54 Actors discussing their approach to rehearsing and performing emotions
1:11:00 Creating a supportive environment for actors
1:15:36 Discussion about handling criticism and box office success
1:17:21 Dealing with criticism and trolling in the film industry
1:21:03 Industry criticism affects filmmakers' passion
1:23:03 Filmmakers seek validation and opinions from industry professionals
1:26:52 Critique of film reviews and the impact of biased opinions
1:28:39 PR sending own people for film praise
1:32:09 Audience acceptance and support as a driving force
1:33:59 Personal growth and film choices
1:37:29 Actors juggling personal life and tackling crime
1:39:28 Prefer commercial films with a touch of realism
1:43:01 12th Fail is a brilliant film capturing the struggles of Indian youth
1:44:58 Indian Cinema's diversity and uniqueness
1:48:39 Relatable content and audience engagement
1:50:26 Make films with passion and not just as a project
1:54:51 Aspiring to make grand films and the importance of trust and creative process
1:57:16 Focus on telling diverse, untold stories in films.
2:01:37 Continuous learning and versatility as a filmmaker
2:03:35 Pride in diverse cinema industry
Thank you brother ❤
Thanks man. Saved my lot of time
For your efforts 👏
It is Pinky Elli not Pinky Ali.
Good usage of AI😅
So happy to see Jude getting recognition which he deserves. Was already a fan of his after watching Ohm Shanti Oshana. He has come a long way since then❤❤
Came for SRV but ended up watching Prithvi konnanurs speech . He was so genuine and pure . I think Rani Mukerjee was misunderstood him . He only said we should learn from Iranian films there is nothing wrong with his words.literally there is no one to support him in the panel . 😢😢
Yes he was just saying budget has nothing to do with innovation and rani took it different way. She also comes from a privileged background so has little idea about how tough it is to make a film without large support
Exactly. I hated the interview right from there. Rani, with her privilege is not aware of where his words are coming from. I think Rima tried to support him in a way without offending the high table panel. Saying, we should be telling films from all over the country by mixing it with her aspirations of making big cinema.
I think people are scared of KJ. Otherwise, Tapsee, Alphonse, Rima, and Prithvi would've agreed to the point of Iranian films.
Rani shouldn't have been in this panel at all. And making films around that 1% should stop. One 12th Fail, or another small Hindi film is not enough.
He has a point but rani is just saying things that isn't practical. She also misunderstood him, Indian cinema has different individual industries based on their own community. It's very different as an audience I'm confused as to what defines an "indian" film. I know malayalam and Tamil cinema due to the community, culture and language understanding. I can relate to their stories, even though I've no idea what happens in Assam I could still relate it due to good storytelling. That comes down to ott exposure of various films around the world when even though nobody is informed about Iran, their movies have resonated with everyone. I see a family in A Separation by Asghar as my own family and identify with their story and characters the same way I relate to Malayalam cinema.
She seems so arrogant n close minded
Lol have you seen satyajit Ray's any movies but you are calling out her she categorically said India is so diverse what is working for malyalam, iranian film will not work for Bengali, odia,himachali,Punjabi or other states film.film is not only about documentary type.kannada guy is great in what he makes but doesn't mean others are not.for eg what he told about two adults make porn videos leaked, caste issue,court drama with rooted connection but you are making with Kannada background that will not connect more with Bengali(not bhadralok)or East Indian people or European, Americans(exception are everywhere who like). bcoz those people have different background,for eg in Bengali societies caste are there but they are more divided on bhadralok or not,most of votes are not on caste issues til now, party politics is more divided than caste,you have no basic rights if your party lose, your life on stake.there societies work different than other societies.in bihar once many certain sc,obc caste were too powerful to even stand chance against them no matter which caste you are but it doesn't mean Kannada have same society.poor are everywhere but all poor are not Same,Poor in USA have very different background, culture,mind what we have in India.
As a Kannadiga I did not know pinky elli was released , I’m glad Prithvi was part of the conversation, got so much insight into it
It's one Amazing movie 😀
Absolutely amazing movie. Watch it
There's nothing called pan India. India was created by the British and you need the British given language to communicate with dozens of historically, racially, culturally and linguistically separated nations forced inside the Zoo India. Oh, this Zoo stay one is also being maintained by the British given army and RAW.
It's one of the best movies I've seen from India. ತುಂಬ ದುಖಕಾರ ಮತ್ತು ನೈಜಿಕವಾದ ಚಲನಚಿತ್ರ. ನೋಡಲು ಅವಕಾಶ ಸಿಕ್ಕಿದ್ದರೆ ತಪ್ಪಿಸಬೇಡಿ ಅಂತ ನಿಮಗೆ ಸೂಚಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.
57:42 - 1:01:32 People may hate Karan Johar as a person but as a director his take on Animal and Vanga is captivating. He spoke like a true student of craft.
Yeah brother actually he is genius people may troll him or hate him but he analyses the film like a genius who actually knows the craft of directors and his vision example he talked about animal movie. Making a simple narrative story into vast and complex content with that suspense and brilliance of Sandeep as director with great originality and great music sense. Putting a sad and emotional song in the climax during the fight sequence between ranvijay and Abrar fits perfectly. If he is at time of scripting or narrating the story to an actor he may find it odd but that is what a brilliant director thinks doing such a thing which people may think odd at the beginning that talks about the director's originality.
If we talk about Punjab pind scene that is such a beautiful scene with Ranbir entering with that Punjabi song and leaving the pind with his cousin with use of that background score using electric drums. When i saw the teaser first two expressions of Ranbir I said to my friend that I am sold. But people talk about misogynistic and feminist. A movie should be watched for entertainment purposes not what impact he will put on society. A movie can't change the mindset of people. It changes those who already have bad thoughts in their mind and those who have good thoughts in their mind.
Then we have to talk about films made in Hollywood like knock knock,wild, roma etc they also showed misogyny and feminism a director with that originality should not be trolled I think
All the North Indians sitting cross-legged and Lone Sandeep Reddy, south indian sitting with dignity and discipline - normally and not cross legged...
One thing which got cleared from this roundtable is that everyone in the industry are fed up with the critics and reviewers. They are secretly enjoying it when sandeep reddy vanga raises his voice against these groups😂😂
I never expected Karan to be the one praising Sandeep’s filmmaking abilities when they make films of polar opposite ends and are totally different people. This speaks volumes of Karan’s judgment of cinema which is better than all the so called critics!
Depends on with whom he is sitting with. He has already criticized Kabir Singh many times. If it was Anupama Chopra interview, he would be saying opposite.
It depend on his mood and the person he sit with..he is a girgit
Timestamp?
It is Ranbir Kapoor for whom Karan is vouching. He has vested interests. I don't like Sandeep's world of characterisation even if the craft is good. Craft can't be separated from what you have to say. Then a lot of bad Tamil and Telugu films will be appreciated for their technical finesse. But only good stories are loved.
Animal is proof for tthe kind of men we live with. Those whose egos need to be fed and need constant validation due to poor upbringing
@@tubing40sby this logic even Don with SRK is a bad film because he murders people and at the end of the movie he gets away with everything
Rani you spoke well about the diversity in the Indian cinema but
It's Kannada not kannad...🥲🥲
Jude ur talking style soo good and also ur movies are fabulous ❤
Rani knows exactly how to speak out of turn..
Good to see Rima , Hope to see More Guest from Bengali , Odia , Assamese, Gujrati , Marathi.. , from different languages industries. Not only 3- 4 industries.
Assamese films are very much underrated rather than the rest
Gujarathi yes . When they do non propaganda movie .. take it on a liter note 😅
Best part of this roundtable is having filmmakers like Rima Das and Prithvi Konanur in the same roundtable which has these big mainstream filmmakers like Karan Johar.
This is the worst part I think.. I am sure others haven't even watched the kind of rooted films Rima and Prithvi are constantly making... So they are not able to understand what they meant..
@@meballf-nareshKaran has seen Village Rockstars, he posted about it when it was sent for the Oscars.
@@meballf-nareshpeople that click the videos to watch the mainstream directors will come to know about the indie directors too. So this is a win win situation i guess
@@knight794 agree.. That's true! 👍
Sad to see Pruthvi sir not getting recognised in the Kannada film industry.
This is the situation of our industry even after humungous hits like Kgf and Kantara.
Even Telugus neglected except this ... Let them cry on us broo
I think he's got respect for his craft but he might be lacking in "laukyam". Doesn't sound like a humble person.
Which pruthvi are you talking about?
@@Yuvakiranranawho was representing Telugu ? Sandeep ?
But he said Animal is Bollywood movie
He is yet to make another Telugu movie.
Prashanth Neel would've been more appropriate - for both KGF and Salaar .
@@UjwalRamit's a shame really that Sandeep Reddy Vanga went to Bollywood and ignored Telugu film industry
Kannada films have produced some gems in recent years.. I would love to see Prithvi’s movies.
Please watch his movie Hadinelentu Trailer on PRK audio
rani got too offended, but definitely india is way behind other countries. we make mostly crap movies or copied movies. and although she mentioned satyajit ray, not sure she knows that he said "indian audience is the most unsophisticated audience with no taste' which is true.
True sir
It's so funny that in last year's round table Hemanth rao expressed how making people saying kannada cinema instead of kannad cinema was a big thing, a year later Rani talking about all language cinemas coming together as indian cinema says kannad cinema
Forget this round table. Varun Dhawan said Kannad literally 2 mins after Hemanth made that point in that RT 😅.
@@manasbn 😂
Someone please teach Rani Mukharjee some manners. She doesn't have to speak out of turn and she did so many times.
I'm glad that Jude Anthony explained the experience of going out in the awards circuit in the west. At the end its not as straightforward as watching and liking the movies. There are too many movies for juries to see and then choose, at the end most of the movies who have promotion dollars can only go so far as making it to final films choosen for Oscar nominations. Also juries have their top countries like European cinema and then in Korea and Japan from Asia. Theres a preference for filmmakers like Pedro Almodovar from Spain and others who have only done non-english films but are household names in the west.
I somehow did not like the patronizing attitude of Rani. She could be an achiever. But, the way she ranted after a participant shared his point of view and going on prompting words when Rima was expressing her opinion was a bit much to take. They, in my opinion, are greater achievers as they came up without any patronizing.
Same feeling
Raani just triggered and unleashed her inner animal/bully after hearing one should watch iranian films from pruthvi..and went on till the end with single agenda😅
And is there tussle between rani and Karan for Kashmir song?
Dine the ither side of Raniji ❤❤🎉, but i was nd still big fan of her even now i dont care wht other people think of her🎉🎉😢❤❤, She nd Aishwarya,😢 Karishma k r my fav❤❤
Karan speaking great things about Animal was something I'm not prepared for... Also I'm so fascinated about the amount of mutual respect they share. I'm pretty sure they have different perspectives towards art but the way they maintained professionalism is so admirable... Thanks Baddy man, only you could such! Top work.
@@Besties591 Absolutely. Professional aspect and personal aspect
I think he appreciated animal for being in Ranbir Kapoor's good books.
Bhai woh Alia ka husband hai 😂😅
@@Besties591kjo is always honest in interviews his vocals are treat to listen... Look at other directors so pathetic ghamndi n boring
He has to,it's the biggest industry hit pf 2023,why would he undermine it?? Especially with other language movies faring well
As a huge fan of Indian Cinema, (all languages) it is disheartening to hear OTT are not taking "smaller" films because often the 'smaller" films don't play in my city (Minneapolis). OTT is the only way I would see an Assamese film and the Kanada films talked about here. (We got Kantara and KGF) Its also hit or miss whether we get Malayalam films playing here. Its tragic that DVDs are rarely made too. I wish OTT platforms made sure EVERYTHING they stream is subtitled.
@1:41:54 the guy literally trolled entire bollywood lobby. We need such people who put forth Talented people do their job rather nepokids talking rubbish about everything
After watching this roundtable, Anil Sharma has decided to cast Rani in Gadar 3 where she will go to Iran and destroy their film industry with a handpump
best fucking commenbt
I don't understand why Rani felt offended at Prithvi, he was telling exactly the same thing a minute ago. Find rooted stories and Iranians are doing it. He didn't say Indian movies are worse than Iranian movies. Also, I wanted to hear more from Prithvi, Jude and Sandeep more but Karan and Rani kept talking and I had to skip those parts!!
@@Aptoxe Yes Yes...movies like Mujhse Dosti Karoge, Chori Chori Chupke Chupke and Dil bole hadippa are masterpieces of Indian cinema 😂
Finally this entire discussion became a therapy for Karan and Rani...
Complaining about their problems
2:02:07
If you don’t acknowledge the brilliance of somebody else , how do you get there
Karan Johar ❤
If someone has been fed on burgers, to get them to eat rotis will be difficult, but we know what is healthy.... Prithvi take bow for that statement
Lately, I can't stand Rani's interviews. She's sitting on this high horse like a Queen judging everyone. She needs to have the last word, everyone needs to agree with her. Extremely annoying!
Hope to see Jude - Rani and Rima - Rani collaborations soon! ❤
A little over 2 hours of the conversation here and Karan spoke for 1 hour 😂
The biggest win of this roundtable was giving a forum to Prithvi and Rima. I'm still waiting to watch movies like Pinki elli and Pedro that have won so many awards but still haven't got a proper release.
And Karan talking with such levelheadedness and passion is always refreshing.
Rani mukherjee finds a way to ruin a good discussion... 😅
Always.... seen her previous roundtable also.... oversmart😅😂
It shows how dissociated these actors are when Rani did not know even know about the case on which she made it, which was widely covered in news - both electronic and print. The simple answer to Rani is how many Persian movies she has seen and how rooted they are - the likes of Majid Majidi and Asghar Farhadi!
I understood his point and also why others misinterpreted as belittling indian cinema or comparing. Seems like Prithvi sees Indian cinema having better chances to win oscars if Iranian cinema has 2 and also the recognition and respect. If Iranian cinema can go from being anonymous to that level of recognition and respect than India can do 100x better and has more potential than Iran. Atleast in India the government is not restricting freedom of speech and arts.
@@Finnolawhy are your a** on fire Iran movies are genuinely good if u haven't watched them u can't comment on that and it was unnecessary to bring the freedom thing atleast they have won Oscar's so don't show your insecurity and bollywood has remade an iranian film that is children of heaven in bam bam bole something like that Persian cinema is very superior indian cinema can never come close to it
Brilliantly put together roundtable.wonderful seeing Jude and Rima.And so beautifully hosted.
Thank you very much and looking forward to many more like this.
I don't agree what Rani said in the last there's nothing wrong in watching other country films and learn
Good to see Rani and Sandeep together. Movies like Mardaani and Animal are poles apart but that is the real beauty of movies on celluloid I believe, what one believes need to be displayed!
Vouching for this combo for a near future project 🤞
😂😂😂
A agree broh❤
Rani in Mardaani is like a Tigress/ Lioness.
Remove the tunnel-vision from your NARROW-mind & you will be ABLE to see a lot of character similarities rather than superficial differences.
🫵🏽🤡🤬🖕🏽🤣
Name its self a irony . A confident powerful ,'lead' woman , has to be "MARD"ANI
@@112vyasghawate its like saying Wo'man' and Man ...woman is the other gender opposite to man obviously
Prithvi got bullied almost by the end of roundtable 😢
He just stated his opinion
U didn't have to nullify that to that extreme extent
What he meant was Iranian movies are better than indian in terms of storytelling
What's wrong in that?
U think Indian movies are in the best in the world
Others might not think so
Absolutely. These privileged Bolly queens are full of shit.
Absolutely agree with this
@@manojkoundinya8645 Thank u
Indian films have more reach compared to iranian films and also Our films cater to a wide range of audiences you want good content and Oscar worthy movies watch Malayalam films, you want Commercial films watch Hindi, Telugu and Tamil
@@TheKing-cm4uo Which Malayalam film has won an oscar so far? Please don't talk about 2018. It didn't make it to the shortlist and also it was a pity gift to Malayalam film.
Kudos to Baddy for beinging such diverse panel together! So fresh and unique mix of talent. Baddy has conscioulsy put efforts to stand out from other roundtables ❤
Here just for Prithvi Konanur. Big fan of his work! ಶುಭವಾಗಲಿ ನಿಮಗೆ!
Jude deserves all the success and more! Such a good roundtable. Baddy is the only person they will all come together. Baddy truly is the greatest of all time!
Vanga is a freaking genius!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 how dumb
True as fuck ...This guy craft knowledge is Unbelievable
Vanga knows how to make a movie .but critics doesn't know how to criticize. Movie
@@sanjaybajare6371then vanga dnt knw hw to make movie
Genius in making porn
i completely agree with mr.prithiv here
indian cinema is not even best in asia
chinese
korean
japnese are making better flims
after satyajith rao we don't have any great directors who makes rooted and grounded flims
also iranian flims are very good in showing emotional side of people
hindi cinema actors, directors has no rights to talk about rooted cinema. all this amazing nepo actros should go and live in hindi heartland for few months to know about roots. especially karan johar SRK 90s era ruined bollywood with romcom which worked well and they forgot other genre flims.
I wish there were time stamps for Sandeep's portions 🙂
Go down in the comment section @thepadala this guy posted it
@@ambrish58 Thanks
fr i just watched cuz of him..
Tyagi girl and Anupama Chopra crying from the corner by seeing Mr. Rangan got the opportunity for this kind of meaningful roundtable from great artists😄
Nope. They must be laughing from the corner that inspite of having made so much money from his mediocre movie, this guy Vanga is still so vexed with them for not liking his movie m
Tyagi girl is too cool
Frustrated tyagi girl@@apurvashankaranarayanbhat2179
She's not even tyagi anymore idk why she uses her surname. She married to some gora thus looses her caste
@@abhishektyagi4172 wtf is wrong with you?
Glad to see Prithvi konnanur here ❤️
Thanks for bringing him here @ Team Galata:)
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If only he hadn't been bullied out of the conversation, I would have loved to hear more from Prithvi. I get what he is saying and the day someone says, "I am the best!", is the day they stop growing.
P.S. Satyajit Ray is unfortunately no more and we cannot afford to rest on his laurels forever.
Just because she is a Bengali, she feels like she can use his name to prove her point wherever!
57:55 Vanga's look😊
Rani is like my husband is rich, I will intervien Everyone answer😂😂😂
Rani is so arrogant and catty! People are allowed to have other points of view. Just because one film maker expresses his views dosent make it sacrosanct, listen and don’t deride. If you don’t agree that’s fine put your point across no need to vehemently deny the other persons truth.
Exactly!
Skip all of Rani's baashan and the round table ends in 5 minutes.
Fail to understand why Rani is allowed to talk non stop.
😂😂😂😂true
but karan talked much more than rani
Kudos to BR for hosting this epic roundtable! Bringing together such diverse filmmakers and actors is like assembling the Avengers of the entertainment world.
BR's exceptional speed of thought makes him the standout, but the mystery lies in his origin. Instead of focusing on Mars, people should explore the possibility of life on BR's home planet.
There's nothing called pan India. India was created by the British and you need the British given language to communicate with dozens of historically, racially, culturally and linguistically separated nations forced inside the Zoo India. Oh, this Zoo stay one is also being maintained by the British given army and RAW.
That long monologue from Rani was too much to bear and then that slant attack on her fellow panelist for rooting for iranian cinema 🙄
I had watched Pinki Elli in theatres and really liked it. Prithvi sir has crafted a very impressive film which explores the basic essence of story telling from the common man's perspective.
Somebody explain Rani Mukherjee that Pathan was a project not a good movie 😊
BR it made my day, you brought Karan n Sandeep together man hats off.
What about feminist tapsee and misogynist Sandeep ? 😂😂😂 Deadly combo
It shows movies r not really that impactful..
@@rahasinghania encouraged his sisters that they are strong and independent, literally fell on his wife's feet for forgiveness....how is he a misogynist?? If you still say ranvijay is woman hater then You are too brainwashed or didn't even watched the film
@@Sai_0961.Tried to take chances on a woman that was already engaged.
2.Encourages sisters to be independent yet orders his wife to not get remarried if he dies.
3.CHEATS ON HIS WIFE and Tries to justify it.
4.Records intimate moments between of them.
5.Pulling Bra straps,Period insults etc
6.Threatens a PREGNANT WOMAN.
These are all I could remember on top of my head. If I rewatch it again then I might find more but I ain't watching that shit again.
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@@imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455
1. Never happened in the movie which movie did you saw lol?
2. He didn't demand his wife to not marry lol...at that time he doesn't know if he could survive but he did let her leave him in the end and she did left him
3. He didn't justify his cheating...he confessed that what he did was a mistake and he was honest...he didn't even needed to say truth if he wanted to hide it..
4. His wife seemed fine with it and it's a private thing and he didn't showcased it to everyone and how is it misogynistic? Do you even know the meaning of misogyny?
5. Rashmika hit him many times in the movie but you had no problem with it? You feminists... sorry misandrists only point out the half baked scenes...did you remember the position of Ranbir when he did that? He lost 3 out of 5 senses, in search for heart transplant, literally doctors put a pipe inside him for urination...and her parents talk shit about him and she lies to him and he was so disturbed both mentally and physically
6. At that moment he literally became an animal...and they wouldn't have said the truth if he didn't do that and they only call the ambulance for the pregnant woman..if you really watched carefully you would realise that they wouldn't have said the truth unless their lives are threatened
I also agree that the cheating part did disturbed the film and was unnecessary and it made the film looked stretched
But calling film straight out misogynistic without even mentioning the good parts is pure hypocrisy and hate...and yes abrar is a misogynist and he was meant to ...not protagonist...as vanga said only men haters aka misandrists call this film misogynistic
Thanks for getting Prithvi here, I loved the discussion with Prithvi.
He is a bit elitist I guess, he thinks he is above other film makers there.
@@edwinvarghese9782fr bro was trying so hard to prove himself
Only Rani Kjo and tapsee were enjoyable to listen... Others were plain boring
@@StraightouttaMalkangiri you mean prithvi ?
@@tony-pc4kd I think towards the end Rima das summed up very well. I agree with her. She is open to ideas, like how a good director should be and unlike prithvi who thinks certain films are only good. And Rani Mukerji or any other main stream actor for the matter cannot pull off the films he has written convincingly.
Rani saying Indian films are the greatest without watching even one Iranian film is just plain ignorance. Rani Mukerji may be strongly opinionated but she is very ill informed and has very less ability to think. Such women just blabber something and feel as though they have made correct statements
A strong woman expressing her opinion with confidence scares the daylights of many I see lol
A strong woman who only expresses opinions without knowing facts and analysis surely scares the living daylights out of me...they can't be debated with...😂
She is just loud and has no sense of respect for other people's opinions, thats a clear red signal for me@@rajarshisyam5093
I think this is the problem with some people in Bollywood. They intervene and try to prove a point. The director said we should watch Iranian films and see how they are good in terms of ideas. That's it. He did not say anything to demean Indian films. But Rani has started a lecture about the diversity of India and Indian films as if she only knows about our country. Everybody in the panel loves India and the Indian films.
Yeah right?… even I made a similar comment… mr Prithvi must have watched vast amount of indian cinema and Iranian cinema and he must have arrived at a conclusion that Iranian cinema is better than Indian cinema… atleast in his opinion…. So he will be in a right position to compare indian and Iranian cinema and justify with logical facts why in his opinion Iranian cinema is better than Indian cinema..: in a general scenario, Rani’s opinion could be different from what Prithvi said… but whether her opinion was formed in a right way with sufficient amount of case studies? To my understand, NO…. I am damn sure she would not have seen not even a single Iranian movie, let alone watching various cinema across the world…. But went to bluntly bragging indian cinema is best in the world… NO, unless you equally know each and every kind of other cinema all over the world … you cannot say whether our Indian cricket team is best in the world or not, when you don’t know about Australian cricket team, South African cricket team etc…. This is the problem with majority of Indians… we don’t arrive at opinions based on proper logical, rational and reasonable facts… rather we just go with what we know as the “facts” 😂… we don’t accept the reality particularly if it is against our country or culture or religion
@@venkatr56 I agree with each and every word you said
When Prithvi talked about Iranian cinema, he didn't mean disrespect to Indian cinema. Most of our directors and actors get inspired from Hollywood etc. He was merely suggesting to explore Iranian cinema as an alternate. No need to bring diversity card of India and say that we have no need to learn from others. Not the way to express a point. 12th fail is a biopic and as a consequence has to come from our roots. If she had brought up a Vettrimaran movie and asked Prithvi to watch such fictional movies grounded in roots, it would have made sense to me. Felt that it is truly uncalled for to dismiss a co-artist like that.