IMO Nate Robinson is the best “athlete” to put on a jersey. Nate Robinson played football & basketball at UW & could’ve got drafted for both. 5’9 40in+ vert he ran a 4.3
True story i live in Durham north Carolina but im a unc guy family played at unc and went there so im at unc at a summer run and Vince Carter is on my team when i tell you he jumped so high his shoes went past my head and he dunked the ball i was like this dude is unreal i played with some great unc players back in the day in the summers i will never forget
Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest athlete to ever put on a basketball jersey. His athletic accolades surpass the resumes of anyone that’s ever played basketball.
@@tariqziyad8062 If we are talking athlete, Lebron is great but there are better. Speed, power, vertical, lateral movement, change of direction, balance, deceleration, etc.. Lebron for instance rates on all of these except lateral movement. Change of direction could be better but he is 6'8" and 260-280 so for his size he is still elite. (Talking in his prime not now.) Vince does not move laterally well either. As a result never was a great defender. Lebron has the same issue. This is why is an underperforming defender. He is not a bad defender, but nowhere near elite. TMAC for instance would rate better than on first step, lateral movement and likely vertical.. Lebron has more power(Strength) and flat out running speed.. but for basketball I'd take the athlete that TMAC or Jordan is 10 times out of 10 because their athletic attributes translate better. If you still think Lebron is the best athlete the only conclusion to make is he is a lazy defender... Chamberlain at his height is a freak. Shaq the same, but I understand if you put centres in their own category...
Nah, it’s either Wilt or MJ. And for longevity it’s either LBJ or Stockton ( probably Stockton since LBJ hasn’t play defense in almost a decade and misses a lot of games).
You have to factor in speed and quickness as well tho . Not just strength and jumping ability,So if you wanna say most athletic big ? Then thats a better argument
You all are underestimating Wilts speed and quickness. Go watch prime Wilt. Set multiple national track and field records, hall of fame vball and basketball, could easily choke slam any of your other athletes
I politely disagree, Vince had springs when it comes to just pure jumping like those freakish volleyball players when they spike a ball (and Vince was a star volleyball player in HS) but when it comes to things like lateral movement and cutting to the basket he wasn't on the same level as young MJ. It's jnsane how low MJ would get driving to the basket and those shin angles and the way he would contort his body were simply unmatched.
I don’t even think Vince athleticism was on the level of a prime Russ or Drose . I also think Ja is more athletic. Ofc Vince had speed and quickness but it wasn’t elite … oh and prime bron was more athletic as well
It's tough to say who the best pure athlete was since everybody has a different criteria for it and so many top athletes are so close in terms of a combination of speed, strength, and vertical.
As a Torontonian, I'm not even sure I like Vince right now (and the Raps I think retired his jersey, and he's in the hof as a Raptor, before it happened I would've said he should go in as a Net) but some people might feel like nicknames don't fit, or are too much ain't gonna lie, Vince was half-man, half amazing
Pep could have easily got 10 yrs in the league if he locked in on basketball 6'6 strong as a ox tuff as nails could jump out the gym and had no diva in him at all a gentle giant dawg
I think there's different categories for "best athlete ever" there's fluid/smooth and straight power. MJ and Vince is a toss up for fluid. They made everything look easy. Then that power category is between Wilt and Bron. The things they could do just didn't look humanly possible at their size
if we want to talk size and athleticism, the fact someone Shaq's size could do what he could do when it was happening it just seemed straight up unfair that Shaq existed
I don't care who was at those pickup games or how all time great they were at UNC or in the league..... wasn't none of them gonna tell young bull Julius Peppers he wasn't "nice" enough to run with them. Hahaha. He'd clear the gym if needed
Technically Vince's vertical isn't as high as Michael Jordan , Vince could not run faster than Michael Jordan, and let's not even begin to talk about Wilt Chamberlain, this is a conversation based on ignorance, smh.
There is a difference between 1 foot jumper and a 2 foot jumper. 2 foot jumpers like to jump high and one foot jumpers love to jump far. Mj was called air for a reason he stayed in the air for a min. Mj the most athletic cat reflex everything.
Yea mj had ja morant athleticism at 6'6 but VC was crazy with it as well but mj was faster and fluid he had them quick cat like hands and speed with strength VC was more power
I think VC is the best leaper but best overall Athlete is between MJ, Bron, D Rose, and Russ. Elite bounce, speed, and quickness. My personal picks are between Bron & D Rose tho. Vince had bounce but that’s it
Nah, Vince is a heck if an athlete but he’s not clearing Lbj and Lbj is nowhere near Wilt. There’s too much easy info out there to not know this because if I know it…..
This is blasphemy. The best athlete ever is MJ. There's more to athleticism than vertical jump. Vince may have had a higher vertical but MJ's endurance speed and stamina puts him on another level above Vince.
He's got several but they weren't windmills. Also Carter still didn't have the body control mid-jump and ability to change direction like MJ did. Just look at MJ's bizarre evasive layups he constantly did in game. Nobody has gotten close to it.
Lebron is the best athlete to ever play ball not close. People forget he was by far the best athlete in the league for over a decade & now hes still able to impose his athletic will against guys 15-20 years younger. If were not talking about peak its Not really close
Vince wasn’t the contortionist Michael Jordan was... athleticism covers a broader spectrum and there’s a reason they never learnt to contain MJ yet they learnt to contain Vince. Yeah, he could jump high... yeah, the reverse 360 was sick. But angular adjustments, catlike agility and the ability to create something out of nothing? That’s Michael Jordan. Vince’s highlight moments always had an “I know what I’m about to do but you don’t know” kind of vibe, whereas Jordan it was like “ok, you gonna stop this move? Ok, I’ll do this move” kinda thing going on.
Man what are you talking about lol? Have you ever even seen Jordan do a 360 dunk at Alll. Let alone in the game. Jordan was that dude but it’s called evolution. Vince is a different level when it comes to basketball athleticism
@@quentisbentley8629 you’re confusing party tricks with athleticism. A 360 is a learnt skill COMBINED with athleticism. Vince played most his career as a solid starter to role player because he simply didn’t have ‘it’ - the kind of athleticism that makes a player untouchable. MJ was faster, more agile, had quicker reflexes, and a greater separation ability. Vince was arguably a higher jumper but he bounded while Jordan pounced. The problem with bounders is they need coiling space to execute a move. Pouncers can execute from anywhere at any time. Jordan was the evolution of Carter, don’t get it twisted.
@ how was he the evolution of Vince and he came first 😂? Jordan ain’t no where near the most athletic nba player. He was for his time. Since him, there have been countless amount of players . Average role players like Gerald green are more athletic than Jordan . What made Jordan great was his fundamentals and a skill coupled with his athleticism but just pure athleticism, there are Point guards today more pathetic
@@quentisbentley8629 contrary to your understanding of reality, evolution is not bound by time, it’s about transcendence. You don’t evolve from Michael Jordan to Vince Carter. You evolve from Vince Carter to Michael Jordan. Case in point: you don’t see people saying “This guy is the next Vince Carter!” - Oh no no no... it’s “This guy is the next Michael Jordan” - Michael Jordan is the destination. Vince Carter is a footnote in history. As for athleticism, you believe what you want to believe... I’ll continue knowing what I know. 😊
Ok so if Vince Carters best athlete explain why an old Jordan with bruised ribs, only 9 fingers and one leg shut down Vince Carter convincgly while MJ played on the Wizards??? Yall got to stop sayin ish off the cuff, if a prime VC couldnt handle a old disabled Jordan how can he be the best athlete??? Did VC ever win a championship at UNC? Oh not collegiate...so how many in the association did he get? Oh none either? Hm, not a very strong case for best athlete. Deion and Bo are two brothers who deserve to be put in that catagory and even MJ since by the words of his trainers and coaches in baseball he would have been a Major League player if the MLB never went on strike. What second sport did VC play? Keep it a buck and drop thr 🧢
First off its best to put on NBA jersey so ur whole Deion Bo played a second sport thing is irrelevant. So by ur logical Joe Dumars is the best athlete in NBA history cause I seen him with all 6'2 of himself shut down prime 23 Bulls Jordan. In other words put so respect on Vinces name and u need to realize ball also requires skill good day
Those Unc Duke games in the 90's were classic
Ed Cota! One of my favorite point guards of all time! He almost left him out!
The dude was nice, straight from NYC.
Facts u gotta be a tarhell fan my guy go heels
Julius pepper stories are crazy
IMO Nate Robinson is the best “athlete” to put on a jersey. Nate Robinson played football & basketball at UW & could’ve got drafted for both. 5’9 40in+ vert he ran a 4.3
Julius Peppers is a Hall of Famer. Nate isn't 🤷🏾🤣
Charlie Ward won a Heisman and played 10 years in the NFL
True story i live in Durham north Carolina but im a unc guy family played at unc and went there so im at unc at a summer run and Vince Carter is on my team when i tell you he jumped so high his shoes went past my head and he dunked the ball i was like this dude is unreal i played with some great unc players back in the day in the summers i will never forget
Brenden Haywood actually seems like a cool dude. I always thought he was 100% geek squad !
He cool I went to high school with him he can be a need at times lol
Cota, Okulaja and Peppers were important pieces that don't get brought up enough. I haven't heard Okulaja name in a long time. Sorry to hear he passed
Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest athlete to ever put on a basketball jersey. His athletic accolades surpass the resumes of anyone that’s ever played basketball.
Have you ever seen him play?
define what "athlete" means to you? Lebron James is easily the greatest athlete to me and its not even close.
Not wrong. 7'0 plus and over a 40 vert...
@@tariqziyad8062 If we are talking athlete, Lebron is great but there are better. Speed, power, vertical, lateral movement, change of direction, balance, deceleration, etc.. Lebron for instance rates on all of these except lateral movement. Change of direction could be better but he is 6'8" and 260-280 so for his size he is still elite. (Talking in his prime not now.) Vince does not move laterally well either. As a result never was a great defender. Lebron has the same issue. This is why is an underperforming defender. He is not a bad defender, but nowhere near elite. TMAC for instance would rate better than on first step, lateral movement and likely vertical.. Lebron has more power(Strength) and flat out running speed.. but for basketball I'd take the athlete that TMAC or Jordan is 10 times out of 10 because their athletic attributes translate better. If you still think Lebron is the best athlete the only conclusion to make is he is a lazy defender... Chamberlain at his height is a freak. Shaq the same, but I understand if you put centres in their own category...
@@jjuninc77 What about Russell Westbrook, Zach Lavine (quickest first step I've ever seen), and prime Derrick Rose??
Ed is my favorite UNC PG!!
Don't forget King Rice
Mines was the other number 5 that played for Denver he was nice and fast af
Ed couldn't shoot
You didn’t have to be able to back then 😆
@@jeffwilson8246King Rice, Rick Fox, JR Reid, Kevin Madden, and rookie Hubert Davis👍
Nah, it’s either Wilt or MJ. And for longevity it’s either LBJ or Stockton ( probably Stockton since LBJ hasn’t play defense in almost a decade and misses a lot of games).
Children (Gen Z) Shouldn't Be Allowed In Comment Sections. They Don't Know Enough To Truly Formulate An Opinion 🤦🏿♂️🤣.
I think wilt is the best athlete ever in the NBA
AGREED‼️
To big to slow
You have to factor in speed and quickness as well tho . Not just strength and jumping ability,So if you wanna say most athletic big ? Then thats a better argument
You all are underestimating Wilts speed and quickness. Go watch prime Wilt. Set multiple national track and field records, hall of fame vball and basketball, could easily choke slam any of your other athletes
@ thank you
I totally agree. It took me for years to come around to vince carter
Wilt is greatest athlete and it not even close, period.
Your opinion just like everyone else don't mean you right but ok
vince carter better
I politely disagree, Vince had springs when it comes to just pure jumping like those freakish volleyball players when they spike a ball (and Vince was a star volleyball player in HS) but when it comes to things like lateral movement and cutting to the basket he wasn't on the same level as young MJ. It's jnsane how low MJ would get driving to the basket and those shin angles and the way he would contort his body were simply unmatched.
He’s you’re old. You missed on this take
@@davidbarnes4742huh ? Lmao speak English and actually present an argument
I don’t even think Vince athleticism was on the level of a prime Russ or Drose . I also think Ja is more athletic. Ofc Vince had speed and quickness but it wasn’t elite … oh and prime bron was more athletic as well
I would definitely argue Westbrook or Drose as the most athletic players I've ever seen tbh
@@Heemkeem_9this fool said drose & ja are more athletic than Vince freaking Carter lol
Prime D Rose….peace out ya’ll🫶🏾🖕🏾✌🏾
It's tough to say who the best pure athlete was since everybody has a different criteria for it and so many top athletes are so close in terms of a combination of speed, strength, and vertical.
That 98 team may be my favorite of all time.
Peppers a beast
Peppers a hall of famer in the NFL and was running with all league guys
Shout out Ed Cota
The story with clips 🫡🫡
4:03 ronald curry. Is the greatest high school athlete. To come out of 757. And that's where Iverson and vick are from
As a Torontonian, I'm not even sure I like Vince right now (and the Raps I think retired his jersey, and he's in the hof as a Raptor, before it happened I would've said he should go in as a Net)
but some people might feel like nicknames don't fit, or are too much
ain't gonna lie, Vince was half-man, half amazing
Pep could have easily got 10 yrs in the league if he locked in on basketball 6'6 strong as a ox tuff as nails could jump out the gym and had no diva in him at all a gentle giant dawg
Vince, Nate robinson, Labron are the freakiest athletes ever
Put some respect on Julius peppers that man was a beast
He’s in the league Vincing lmao
It's amazing how Kobe was so much better and fluid out of triple threat than Vince was, too. Work ethic pays off.
The best athlete the nba has ever seen is Wilt Chamberlain!
Honorable mention also to Bill Russell, I believe was also a world class long jumper.
Vc the dawg
I’m a duke fan . I’m 43. So not just a one done era fan. And he’s right. Vince is that dude and that team was disgusting
I think there's different categories for "best athlete ever" there's fluid/smooth and straight power. MJ and Vince is a toss up for fluid. They made everything look easy. Then that power category is between Wilt and Bron. The things they could do just didn't look humanly possible at their size
if we want to talk size and athleticism, the fact someone Shaq's size could do what he could do
when it was happening it just seemed straight up unfair that Shaq existed
I don't care who was at those pickup games or how all time great they were at UNC or in the league..... wasn't none of them gonna tell young bull Julius Peppers he wasn't "nice" enough to run with them. Hahaha. He'd clear the gym if needed
Forte, Lang, JP
Wilt the Stilt
Technically Vince's vertical isn't as high as Michael Jordan , Vince could not run faster than Michael Jordan, and let's not even begin to talk about Wilt Chamberlain, this is a conversation based on ignorance, smh.
Jordan vertical was never confirmed
@DreCarFinder that's totally false, it's been confirmed wherever you look at 48. Do your research.
@ That 48 inch vertical is a myth..just look at Ja Morant and Zach Lavine..clearly jump higher than MJ but dont have a 48 inch vertical
@DreCarFinder Wow, ok, smh.
so he just gon forget about ed cota tho???????
There is a difference between 1 foot jumper and a 2 foot jumper. 2 foot jumpers like to jump high and one foot jumpers love to jump far. Mj was called air for a reason he stayed in the air for a min. Mj the most athletic cat reflex everything.
And remember MJ did BOTH, 1 foot and 2 foot jump.
Yea mj had ja morant athleticism at 6'6 but VC was crazy with it as well but mj was faster and fluid he had them quick cat like hands and speed with strength VC was more power
Michael Jordan.
Wilt Chamberlain is the best athlete to ever put on an NBA jersey, followed by MJ!
I think VC is the best leaper but best overall Athlete is between MJ, Bron, D Rose, and Russ. Elite bounce, speed, and quickness. My personal picks are between Bron & D Rose tho. Vince had bounce but that’s it
MJ
Vince was no where near lebron in the speed category. Lebron definitely jumped higher prime for prime.
VC was way more naturally creative and more athletic overall then any other NBA player ever even over your 👑ing
@ naturally talented maybe, athletic not even close. What athletic ability did Carter have over lebron?
Nah, Vince is a heck if an athlete but he’s not clearing Lbj and Lbj is nowhere near Wilt. There’s too much easy info out there to not know this because if I know it…..
This is blasphemy. The best athlete ever is MJ. There's more to athleticism than vertical jump. Vince may have had a higher vertical but MJ's endurance speed and stamina puts him on another level above Vince.
if Vince is second to Jordan in athleticism, I doubt Vince considers that a slight
Jordan is the GOAT
Lmao where is Michael Jordan’s windmill, jumping over a grown man. Stop the cap
He's got several but they weren't windmills. Also Carter still didn't have the body control mid-jump and ability to change direction like MJ did. Just look at MJ's bizarre evasive layups he constantly did in game. Nobody has gotten close to it.
Lebron is the best athlete to ever play ball not close. People forget he was by far the best athlete in the league for over a decade & now hes still able to impose his athletic will against guys 15-20 years younger. If were not talking about peak its Not really close
Stop it ...!!!! Stop it !!!
Nope. It was Vince. If Vince had Jordan's vert, he would've been the greatest of all time
Saying it's not close is insane. I don't think many of you don't understand what Wilt actually was.
We’re obviously talking about peak
@@KINGBARAKOQUA explain how hes wrong
Vince wasn’t the contortionist Michael Jordan was... athleticism covers a broader spectrum and there’s a reason they never learnt to contain MJ yet they learnt to contain Vince. Yeah, he could jump high... yeah, the reverse 360 was sick. But angular adjustments, catlike agility and the ability to create something out of nothing? That’s Michael Jordan. Vince’s highlight moments always had an “I know what I’m about to do but you don’t know” kind of vibe, whereas Jordan it was like “ok, you gonna stop this move? Ok, I’ll do this move” kinda thing going on.
Man what are you talking about lol? Have you ever even seen Jordan do a 360 dunk at Alll. Let alone in the game. Jordan was that dude but it’s called evolution. Vince is a different level when it comes to basketball athleticism
@@quentisbentley8629 you’re confusing party tricks with athleticism. A 360 is a learnt skill COMBINED with athleticism. Vince played most his career as a solid starter to role player because he simply didn’t have ‘it’ - the kind of athleticism that makes a player untouchable. MJ was faster, more agile, had quicker reflexes, and a greater separation ability. Vince was arguably a higher jumper but he bounded while Jordan pounced. The problem with bounders is they need coiling space to execute a move. Pouncers can execute from anywhere at any time. Jordan was the evolution of Carter, don’t get it twisted.
@ how was he the evolution of Vince and he came first 😂? Jordan ain’t no where near the most athletic nba player. He was for his time. Since him, there have been countless amount of players . Average role players like Gerald green are more athletic than Jordan . What made Jordan great was his fundamentals and a skill coupled with his athleticism but just pure athleticism, there are Point guards today more pathetic
I mean athletic
@@quentisbentley8629 contrary to your understanding of reality, evolution is not bound by time, it’s about transcendence. You don’t evolve from Michael Jordan to Vince Carter. You evolve from Vince Carter to Michael Jordan. Case in point: you don’t see people saying “This guy is the next Vince Carter!” - Oh no no no... it’s “This guy is the next Michael Jordan” - Michael Jordan is the destination. Vince Carter is a footnote in history. As for athleticism, you believe what you want to believe... I’ll continue knowing what I know. 😊
Ok so if Vince Carters best athlete explain why an old Jordan with bruised ribs, only 9 fingers and one leg shut down Vince Carter convincgly while MJ played on the Wizards??? Yall got to stop sayin ish off the cuff, if a prime VC couldnt handle a old disabled Jordan how can he be the best athlete??? Did VC ever win a championship at UNC? Oh not collegiate...so how many in the association did he get? Oh none either? Hm, not a very strong case for best athlete. Deion and Bo are two brothers who deserve to be put in that catagory and even MJ since by the words of his trainers and coaches in baseball he would have been a Major League player if the MLB never went on strike. What second sport did VC play? Keep it a buck and drop thr 🧢
First off its best to put on NBA jersey so ur whole Deion Bo played a second sport thing is irrelevant. So by ur logical Joe Dumars is the best athlete in NBA history cause I seen him with all 6'2 of himself shut down prime 23 Bulls Jordan. In other words put so respect on Vinces name and u need to realize ball also requires skill good day
Michael Jordan over Vince athleticism.