Chips, cars and cognac: What's on the menu for Xi's Europe visit • FRANCE 24 English

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  • On Sunday, Chinese President Xi Jinping will come to Europe for the first time in five years, staying in France until Tuesday. Aside from the Ukraine war, technology - computer chips and green tech in particular - could be the most important talking point on the agenda. FRANCE 24's Peter O'Brien tells us more in this week's edition of Tech 24.
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  • @pjw3438
    @pjw3438 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    As a Chinese, I was shocked and relieved to see how stupid the so-called experts in Europe were.

    • @shigai9727
      @shigai9727 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      There’s no strategic analysis. There’s only rhetoric.

    • @gsyoou
      @gsyoou 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      It's silly. I want to laugh.

    • @eveening7401
      @eveening7401 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      As an European, I have to agree with you.

    • @andrewlim7751
      @andrewlim7751 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's why de Gaulle were extinct in France for quite sometimes.

    • @Leila-sd1sl
      @Leila-sd1sl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      They think they’re cute. Wasting airtime and adding no value to viewers.

  • @jianyang6281
    @jianyang6281 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    chips? But Xi isnt going to Netherlands... France doesnt make high end chip. where is this expert from? I mean what make this guy think Xi wants chips from France?

    • @iamsometimes6712
      @iamsometimes6712 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah, I got confused too by his message. Not sure if he's over his skis on the topic or if he should have clarified his point on France / China / Chips. High-end chips come from Taiwan.

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ASML has TSMC, Intel and Blackrock too as shareholders.

    • @andrewlim7751
      @andrewlim7751 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Maybe he is talking about some exotic French potatoes chips? 🤤🤤

    • @iamsometimes6712
      @iamsometimes6712 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@andrewlim7751 Ha, I get it now !!! 😄

    • @andrewlim7751
      @andrewlim7751 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Joey-ct8bm
      It's decided by host sovereign, and potatoes is one. 😂😂

  • @amos325
    @amos325 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    One thing they will NOT talk about is. Chips

    • @yeetian2774
      @yeetian2774 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Agreed. Why would China talk about chips with France…..

    • @bin.s.s.
      @bin.s.s. 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Potato chips for lunch probably.

  • @seymorefact4333
    @seymorefact4333 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Xi visited France and said....."i'm only here for the fries!"

  • @Liboch
    @Liboch 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    The guest is guessing, quite wildly. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Joey-ct8bm
    @Joey-ct8bm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    You need to be in the Netherlands for ASML, not France or Ursula von der Leylen

    • @user-qt3uw5mk7x
      @user-qt3uw5mk7x 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you say so, then he should be go to us rather than anywhere. Since all the eu countries are dogs of us.

    • @edgardebruin5539
      @edgardebruin5539 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ASML is leaving the Netherlands

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@edgardebruin5539 It's not. They are even getting 2.5 billion to expand in the Netherlands from the government. They won't sell their machines anyway, because their shareholders are Blackrock, TSMC, Intel and Samsung for instance. No chance in hell they're gonna sell their shares to China. The only thing China could do is build their semiconductors factories in the EU and we sell it to them. That tech is definitely not going to China from ASML.
      There were only talks to expand ASML to France, not leaving the Netherlands, but that is now gone too.

    • @ensteffo
      @ensteffo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ASML is ruled from Washington not Netherlands.

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ensteffo They have shareholders over the world at ASML, but it's still a Dutch company. Biden went to PM Mark Rutte for his chips act, so in a way it's true. Biden still needs the Netherlands for that though.

  • @yeetian2774
    @yeetian2774 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Chips? Perhaps it’s Potato chips since Lay’s is a French company.

  • @hsingpeikao
    @hsingpeikao 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Taiwan is not an issue of EU and even US. Stay away and let the Chinese of both sides manage it in peaceful way. When has China gets involved in the issues in EU or US?

  • @b.carrie837
    @b.carrie837 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    This guy is an expert in googling Wikipedia…

  • @pondeify
    @pondeify 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    these videos are becoming more and more ridiculous

  • @philipen65888
    @philipen65888 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    And what exactly french president has to do or to say with respect to issues related to Dutch ASML or Taiwanese TSMC?

    • @Tman501
      @Tman501 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They like to put themselves in "everything" comes what may the "Hegemony " status is fading away little by little and they're holding on for dear Life.

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The guest is guessing something out of the box. 😂😂😂

  • @TheExelvis
    @TheExelvis 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    what role France played in the chips sector, just wondering?

  • @amunra5330
    @amunra5330 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Western media loves to add ' but at what cost'

  • @Haijwsyz51846
    @Haijwsyz51846 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This guy needs an updated memo. China no longer needs western chips anymore.

    • @rambleon2838
      @rambleon2838 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You got it wrong. Europe doesn't need more Chinese junk. To stop global warming, global shipping needs to stop first.

    • @frankguz55
      @frankguz55 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You wish...

  • @jiali3353
    @jiali3353 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    He has no idea about China...

    • @2211-wu2ni
      @2211-wu2ni 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      整个欧洲都没几个人了解中国,但是他们却可以肆意评价我们和编造关于中国的谎言

  • @planb1635
    @planb1635 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Chips with Cognac is surely doable.

  • @manimalworks7424
    @manimalworks7424 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Who is on the menu? By chips, he means French Fries?

  • @hansonsun5917
    @hansonsun5917 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Even chips for refrigerators?

  • @hongqi5734
    @hongqi5734 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    The European governments should be thankful to the Chinese government for making the EV so affordable for everyone and also helped the governments saved a lot of money on incentive or subsidy to the encourage the general population to use EV for better environment.

    • @rambleon2838
      @rambleon2838 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, the EU needs to restrict Chinese imports.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@rambleon2838
      It cuts both ways.

  • @Bjonnet55
    @Bjonnet55 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    France has no control of those topics in chips or Taiwan

    • @GrosPointRouge
      @GrosPointRouge 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China wants ASML to provide them with the same chip-making machines that they sell to Taiwan. And Macron is favourable to that idea and uses it as a bargaining chip for other questions.

    • @ivybae9906
      @ivybae9906 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. France doesn't even make any high end chips. Why on earth would Xi wants to talk abt chips with French Macaroni? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @shiulai5804
    @shiulai5804 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Unfortunately, the tech "expert" appears to be brainwashed by the US over the issue of Taiwan.
    The OFFICIAL NAME of Taiwan is The Republic of China !
    The split into two factions of China is the result of the unfinished Chinese civil war which resulted in the losing faction's escape to the Chinese island province of Taiwan.
    Both factions do claim the other as "theirs".
    In fact, for journalistic integrity, I invite the "expert" or his female colleague to check The Constitution in effect on the Taiwan Island. He and she will find that the Constitution claims the mainland part as part of The Republic of China, the official name for the government of Taiwan
    China sees residents of Taiwan as brethren. Invasion will hurt the Chinese and benefit the Americans
    THAT CHINA IS ABOUT TO INVADE TAIWAN IS PURE AMERICAN FICTION created for its own purposes.
    Don't be fooled!

  • @danielpang9078
    @danielpang9078 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What do France have anything to do with chips, chips, chips and chips? Unless he meant the one made of potatos.🤣

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What chips China buys from France? Wonder how France feels Ursula will be there as a hall monitor?

  • @jacintochua6885
    @jacintochua6885 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Economic cooperation. Itsvgood ! Isnt it ?

  • @qn3734
    @qn3734 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chips in the Eiffel tower in the afternoon and maybe some more delicious chips before the flight home.

  • @fahmad7194
    @fahmad7194 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting move by France

  • @watchman835
    @watchman835 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The opening makes me went out bought some chips. 🍟

  • @stevenlee3422
    @stevenlee3422 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    What chips,I guarantee that Macron will not mention Taiwan and chips or Uighurs

    • @lianghao7128
      @lianghao7128 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I'm still waiting for evidence about the Uighur claims. I mean, I downloaded about 500gb video of evidence about Isr-el, but I couldn't find a Uighur one.

    • @iamsometimes6712
      @iamsometimes6712 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@lianghao7128 ??? Nice try. So you just ignored the gigabytes of data from the leaked Chinese police database a few months ago showing all these citizens flagged as Uighurs and in so called reeducation camps ? Either you're disingenious here (ie trolling) or your blinders are out of this universe.

    • @lianghao7128
      @lianghao7128 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iamsometimes6712 These are easy to be forged by the media, but videos of genocide can not be forged by AI at present. Unlike you, I am not a person who believes everything easily. I ask for real evidence.

    • @adamsaciid4919
      @adamsaciid4919 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@lianghao7128he doesn't have 😮

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lianghao7128 Same here

  • @PasiSivonen
    @PasiSivonen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks

  • @keith6371
    @keith6371 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    he should have said fried onions, chip is a Belgium food. 😅 i will see myself out

  • @parkchunjae8471
    @parkchunjae8471 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    never know that France could make chips

  • @lokesh303101
    @lokesh303101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chips and Cars and Metals and Electronics.

  • @patrickgz
    @patrickgz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    from fossil energy from rusia to green energy from china?

  • @kmich7660
    @kmich7660 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Update narrative pl.. " More recent news that Huawei and SMIC are scheming to mass-produce so-called 5-nanometre processor chips has stoked fears about leaps in their next-generation prowess. These chips remain a generation behind the current cutting-edge ones, but they show that China’s move to create more advanced chips is well on track, despite US export controls."
    And note that 50% of US chip talents are Chinese. 😅

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And 100% of China's talents are Chinese & Taiwanese.

    • @kkxxgff
      @kkxxgff 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LibochLes fondateurs de la NASA ont des talents de la Chine continentale, il est difficile de dire que les Chinois et les Taïwanais peuvent représenter tous les talents chinois.

  • @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513
    @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cognac? Seriously?

  • @DannyChean
    @DannyChean 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes I agree. Chips are the most important issue that should be discussed. And fish too, of course. You can't talk about chips without mentioning the fish.

  • @lemanlie4921
    @lemanlie4921 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing leader. Real

  • @PasiSivonen
    @PasiSivonen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Be fast If you want help because here is Weekend

  • @SunshineJ4478
    @SunshineJ4478 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is not at the table will be on the menu: USA. 😂

  • @oyx16
    @oyx16 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fish and chips?😂

  • @cks7709
    @cks7709 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Are they on a date on live TV?

    • @user-sw9df6oz2e
      @user-sw9df6oz2e 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely something is going on with the two of them...

  • @windsong3wong828
    @windsong3wong828 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Trade is always a win win.
    Everyone gets what they want .
    Wine, cognac , LV, EV etc .

  • @tengchuankhoo6585
    @tengchuankhoo6585 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "expert" is one of those who fall into - often wrong but never in doubt😂

  • @virtuous8
    @virtuous8 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fish and chips

  • @mapletibits6372
    @mapletibits6372 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since the tech expert did such a poor job of his job…
    No Xi is not coming to France to talk about the Chips, he would be going to Netherlands instead.
    He would be talking about EV, yes Cognac together, because EU launched investigation into Chinese EV subsidy, backed by the French. (Germans are against it due to worry about their brands in China)
    I doubt Xi and Macron will talk about green tech much or even Huawei, because it’s a necessity if EU wants to succeed in its green policies and telecommunications advancement.
    Also, tech wise, this ‘expert’ also failed to mention Sino-French collab in space (China just launched ChangE-6 to the backside of the moon for samples), as well as China can buy more Airbuses.

  • @taowang2731
    @taowang2731 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chips 😂

  • @Xiaoming2020
    @Xiaoming2020 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So funny, I believe the topics of Xi and EM without any chips, this time will focus on peace of Ukraine at least during the Olympics

  • @summer031977
    @summer031977 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Macron says that the EU should not get involved in a war between China and Taiwan. But the EU wants the United States to help Ukraine. The EU should be able to provide Ukraine with everything it needs to win this war, and that includes weapons and European troops.

    • @zsarimaxim692
      @zsarimaxim692 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Europe has nothing to gain in NATO expansion. It’s a fool’s errand trying to prop up Pax Americana with EU blood and money.

  • @Kai-kl6fe
    @Kai-kl6fe 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sure the visit has nothing to do with Macron's statements about the war in Ukraine.

  • @whitemoon5752
    @whitemoon5752 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry this guy don’t understand the chips business. Taiwan makes bulk of high end chips that is 5nm, which are used in high end AI, mobile phones. The rest of electronics application don’t need that thickness. A car can do with 14nm or 28nm of which China is the world leader in manufacturing. China can make 7nm which is used on latest Huawei mobiles. In the next two years it can make 5nm for its market which is the biggest semi conductor buyer/market in the world. Now with US IRA state subsidies policy it is building huge capacity by drawing out companies from its allied countries, this will build massive over supplies with fewer buyers. Ultimately price will collapse and the investment of chips will be dud.

  • @moniruzzamankhan8218
    @moniruzzamankhan8218 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lies, lies and lies.

  • @BeyondGalaxy88
    @BeyondGalaxy88 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    China should make sleek sports dream car like Lambo and sell for $30, 000 or $50 thousands dollars

  • @edwin3162able
    @edwin3162able 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't know french potato chips it's so famous...lol

  • @haoyun386
    @haoyun386 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    🎉

  • @klarkewang
    @klarkewang 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let the French decide of keeping being a puppet of their big cousin or not...

  • @catinbootsnow4267
    @catinbootsnow4267 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The guest talks like the wars in Ukraine and Gaza are over. 😅

  • @JC-kl1sw
    @JC-kl1sw 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Europeans, especially French, are good at having a smart appearance while having no idea.

  • @aaronsmith9722
    @aaronsmith9722 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All he saying is chippppppppp

  • @kenchan8099
    @kenchan8099 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is this guy even here? You grab in a random person looking for toilet from street?

  • @jilidkuminding7356
    @jilidkuminding7356 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gosh! How STUPID 😂😂😂

  • @shintong2249
    @shintong2249 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get someone who knows something 😅

  • @ibrahimtouman2279
    @ibrahimtouman2279 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    🍟🍟🍟🍟

  • @alicejyi4705
    @alicejyi4705 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    XI wants to open a door in EU. And he finds Macron is the one prone to outside influences and thus easy to crack.. Macron needs desperately the recognition as the narcissiste feed from the outside world. Xi is going to give the sense of importance Macron needs so to have him under the radar.

  • @Tman501
    @Tman501 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Xi will be there to tell them what needs to be done 😂😂 is as easy as ABC.

  • @guhoya19
    @guhoya19 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lol this guest provided nothing but BS

  • @Steve-pp2lx
    @Steve-pp2lx 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Making his trip to pretend to be a world leader He's a victim of his own greed lust and ego, as are his people, All the smiles in the world can't cover up your evil

  • @sunnyhill3000
    @sunnyhill3000 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This guy knows nothing. 4min wasted

  • @tomq2515
    @tomq2515 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too young and too naive as a so called expert

  • @fangxusun1723
    @fangxusun1723 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ridiculous opinions

  • @amandagrant4331
    @amandagrant4331 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was shocked and relieved to see how stupid the so-called experts in Europe were.

  • @liewkinglim
    @liewkinglim 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Xi will come as a wine tester… & eventually buy only s. American wine. His focus is ‘ hungry’ and Serbia 🇷🇸

  • @andrewign5806
    @andrewign5806 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Taiwan is not China

    • @user-qt3uw5mk7x
      @user-qt3uw5mk7x 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah yeah yeah you are the boss.

    • @badbadbadcat
      @badbadbadcat 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even "Taiwanese" say they're Chinese and they call "Taiwan" as Republic of China. Go back to sleep uncle

    • @justinlucas
      @justinlucas 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Taiwan is best Country

    • @xman1533
      @xman1533 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Also Hawaii is not USA😂

    • @justinlucas
      @justinlucas 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xman1533 lol fr

  • @rambleon2838
    @rambleon2838 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Macron must demand compensation for the cost occurred during the pandemic due to lack of transparency and accountability from the Chinese government.

    • @liewkinglim
      @liewkinglim 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ha ha … using which muscles?

    • @DannyChean
      @DannyChean 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Here is the 698 Trillion compensation you ask for. Come get it with whatever army you could gather.

  • @moniruzzamankhan8218
    @moniruzzamankhan8218 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A propaganda mouthpiece. The guest is a liar. Outright liar. No expertise.

  • @YuYu-sz8ik
    @YuYu-sz8ik 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Peter
    Do you mean potato chips?
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lianghao7128
    @lianghao7128 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is a USA founded channl.

  • @jetblast1000
    @jetblast1000 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talk a lot and say nothing, this chap is pathetic

  • @danwelterweight4137
    @danwelterweight4137 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taiwan is not under risk of being invaded by China.
    Taiwan's official name is Republic of China.
    The majority of the Chinese people want the reunification of the Republic of China and the People's Republic of China.
    This is the second time China had to reunify Taiwan with the Mainland.
    The first time was from 1642 to 1682 after a war that cost the lives of 500 000 people, and lasted for 40 years.
    That war consisted of 11 Amphibious invasion attempts.
    For 40 years the surging Qing Dynasty forces launched invasion after invasion attempts to retake Taiwan from the remanants forces of the declining Ming Dynasty.
    No matter how many times they were defeated they kept coming again and again and again and again 11 x for over 40 years until they eventually succeeded.
    So if any Western clown wants to get involved in a Chinese war over Taiwan they seriously need to ask themselves are you willing to fight a full scale all out war with China thst will last 40 years and will cost tens of millions lives of their own own people?
    You are dealing with a country that fought 22 year wars, 40 year wars, 300 year wars.
    any region which they see as an integral part of their country will fight ceaselessly and relentlessly for thst land.
    They will never stop fighting until they succeed.
    If you couldn't fight the Taliban for 20 years. How are you going to fight China for 40 years.

  • @PasiSivonen
    @PasiSivonen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello everybody IS any money man here today in chat

  • @JordanSmith-bj8pg
    @JordanSmith-bj8pg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is France the new member of the Brics family?

  • @andydondy6444
    @andydondy6444 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about the French grow a set and stop being america's beech🤨🤨🤨

  • @tiaoyi-bx5yi
    @tiaoyi-bx5yi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Xi Jinping visiting France, Hungary, and Serbia for chips? I was shocked by the ignorance and stupidity of the guests.🤐

  • @xjsnjkil2070
    @xjsnjkil2070 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dude wants to have some potato chips.

  • @blahblah-yx7bl
    @blahblah-yx7bl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what has french to do with chips??