Southeast Asian Crossbow of the Hmong
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- Here is my antique primitive crossbow made of bamboo and wood, of the Hmong/Miao/Mao peoples for hunting. The original bamboo prod and bolts were from the late 20th century and is too old to shoot so I made a reproduction bamboo prod of around 50lbs and some reproduction bolts. They are often used with poison to become an effective weapon.
"Throughout the southeastern Asia the crossbow is still used by primitive and tribal peoples both for hunting and war, from the Assamese mountains through Burma, Siam and to the confines of Indo-China. The peoples of the northeastern Asia possess it also, both as weapon and toy, but use it mainly in the form of unattended traps; this is true of the Yakut, Tungus, and Chukchi, even of the Ainu in the east. There seems to be no way of answering the question whether it first arose among the barbaric forefathers of these Asian peoples before the rise of the Chinese culture in their midst, and then underwent its technical development only therein, or whether it spread outwards from China to all the environing peoples. The former seems the more probable hypothesis, given the further linguistic evidence in its support"
Needham, Joseph (1994), Science and Civilization in China Volume 5 Part 6, Cambridge University Press
Around the third century BC, King An Dương of Âu Lạc (modern-day northern Vietnam) and (modern-day southern China) commissioned a man named Cao Lỗ (or Cao Thông) to construct a crossbow and christened it "Saintly Crossbow of the Supernaturally Luminous Golden Claw" (nỏ thần), which one shot could killed 300 men. According to historian Keith Taylor, the crossbow, along with the word for it, seems to have been introduced into China from Austroasiatic peoples in the south around the fourth century BC. However, this is contradicted by crossbow locks found in ancient "Chinese" Zhou Dynasty tombs dating to the 600s BC.
In 315 AD, Nu Wen taught the Chams how to build fortifications and use crossbows. The Chams would later give the Chinese crossbows as presents on at least one occasion. Siege crossbows were transmitted to the Chams by Zhi Yangjun, who was shipwrecked on their coast in 1172. He remained there and taught them mounted archery and how to use siege crossbows. In 1177 crossbows were used by the Champa in their invasion and sacking of Angkor, the Khmer Empire's capital. The Khmer also had double bow crossbows mounted on elephants, which Michel JacqHergoualc’h suggest were elements of Cham mercenaries in Jayavarman VII's army.
The very first crossbows are likely made during the stone age or Neolithic age, due to the similarity of how a bow is made using a tillering stick. Such primitive bow traps and crossbows can be made with very simple triggers.
thanks for watching
I assume that the Hmong crossbow already sold?
@@jburdine1956 yes but montrgaard avail
Very interesting thank you for sharing, I hope you get all moved OK
thank you
met a lot of hmong in minnesota
Vietnam jungle whispers intensify
welcome to the ricefields
🔥🔥🔥
Are these things good for squirrel?
yes, as long as you have the right projectile heads.
@@HistoricalWeapons Thanks, they always drills holes on my roof, and kinda see these kind of crossbow selling on the internet.
@@gunbuckybucketman4578 mine is for sale too. how much you want it for? i recommend a slingshot if you want something cheap and effective and quiet
@@HistoricalWeapons I wish I could buy from you, but I've no way to pay out side my country, so.
@@gunbuckybucketman4578 which
Hmong needs their own country
its called St. Paul, Minnesota
They already have one called america.
@@andkonblack LOLOLOL. My wife is hmong and yea we go there every other year, same with Cali.
No. We don't.
@@fongxiong1929 yes you do it's called Laos and America. Hmongs are the 3rd largest population in Laos. It's the 21st century stop saying you don't have a country when in reality you do. That's a slap in the face to the Hmongs who fight for the American flag and the one who fought against communism in your homeland of Laos.
Welcome to the rice fields
oh filth frank
isnt this a chinese crossbow
LMAO
its a crossbow in the country china
@@xiaotian5863 politically correct
china is not han. han is not china
Hmong is not Han
Notice he was very careful not to call these Chinese
CHINESE is NOT a race. same logic applied to american. Are Mohawk, Commanche, and Cree people American? same debate
Why?
@@zhangtony3372 The Hmong people living in China is happy to identify as Chinese because that's their nationality. Ethnically they are not Han Chinese, they are part of the Miao minority group in China. Outside of China they do not identify as Chinese, they are Hmong of whatever country they happen to live in. Hmong means free people.
nationality and ethnicity are different langdavid
Wasn't the 3 man crossbow also Hmong? Would love to see a reproduction, although it's probably a logistical nightmare
Making something similar for Song Dynasty
yes that 3 man crossbow pic popular online is Hmong potrayed by Qing artists. not a logistical nightmare if used like artillery
hmong us!!?!?!?!?!??!?
I learn a lot in your channel, no just about bows, but also history, geography and anthropology 👍🏻
I appreciate that!
They should introduce these in rs2
Rising storm 2?
that would be awesome
Saw some mods that uses crossbow.
its a miao crossbow
Miao is the Chinese word for Hmong. The Miao minority subgroup contains Hmong, Hmu, Qo-Xiong and A-Hmao. Hmong means free people and its what they call themselves outside China. If they want to be identified as Hmong then let them. Just like Meiguo is the Chinese word for Americans. Nobody outside China refers to Americans by the Chinese word except Chinese people.
@@MrShiromochi right on
@@MrShiromochi It's way more complicated than that.
Various Miao ethnic groups as well as other minority ethnic groups in southern and western China were major supporters of Communism and fed and sheltered soldiers during the long march.
One of the first thing the communists did after taking over was to create a minority ethnic group congress and give them the choice of what names they wanted to be officially known by.
A number of representatives of various ethnic groups, after discussing it with their people, decided that the names they were historically referred to by Han people were offensive and the government officially changed their names to the ones they wanted to be called.
The Miao ethnic groups however decided they wanted to be officially known as "Miao".
They did not find the name offensive, they thought it fit with their agricultural lifestyle, and moreover Hmu, A-Hmao, Xiong, etc. did not want to be called Hmong as they did not consider themselves to be Hmong people.
The name Miao is thought to be derived from an early endonym of a Miao language speaking group. Although in the last 1000 years both the Han languages as well as the Miao languages have evolved.
The catch is that at some point Hmong people outside of China started to view the name Miao as being derogatory.
Which is why the Miao -Yao language family is now starting to be called the Hmong - Mien language family in the west, ie because of claims that using "Miao" is offensive to Hmong people.
But again the problem is that outside of China it's mainly Hmong and Mong people, or other closely related groups in the western branch of the Miao language family, living in southeast Asia and the US and very few members of other Miao language family groups.
The groups in China made the choice to be listed under the name Miao as they did not consider it offensive and did not want to be called Hmong in the same way that Puerto Ricans or Nicaraguans wouldn't like being called Mexicans despite them all being Hispanic peoples.
So yes I call Hmong people Hmong, but I'm not going to call other Miao language family speaking groups as a whole "Hmong" because they collectively decided that they would rather be called Miao when being referred to as a general grouping.
really interresting nice!
Thanks for watching
I've been looking for details about the Montagnard crossbow and it's mechanism so a video would be greatly appreciated
Noted! ill see how the views are on these crossbows before making a decision on that. it seems most my viewers want bow videos, not crossbow videos
@@HistoricalWeapons Would love to see Asian crossbows other than modern or European types. Other channels got it covered already
@@dydactic1112 most of Tods crossbows are Renaissance + because steel nuts are not historical and steel prods are 1450s+. Only Andreas make historical medical crossbows that reflect their true power
Made a video about it for u
Yes please do a video on the montrgard 🏹
considering the lows views he gets on these i doubt it. people just want to see warbows from him.
@@ianuser9650 ha pretty much! This was an awesome video!!! Didn't know about the Hmong crossbow, grew up with allot of them they're nice people! As for the Chinese idk lol
@@foxmulder7616 hmong people and han chinese get along in north america
@@foxmulder7616we are all immigrants in foreign country and theres no need to bring past beef in new land
@@ianuser9650 yeah people complain he just does warbows...but he does a lot of history vids. obviously he is passionate about history but most of the views are warbows for some reason
Well I'm surprised you used your own content.
You pretty accurate on your information.
I'll buy everything you got.
Hi Bo what you interested specifically?
China is not in south east Asia
you just offended the entire Hmong community for mentioning the word China
this specific crossbow was brought back in Thailand.
Southern Yunnan is pretty much SE Asia.
@@scottvaj4434 agreed
The area in California that I live has a the largest hmong population in US next to Minneapolis. They still held their culture in the eighties but that's a dying thing they've pretty much mixed in with everybody else now.
I am a crossbow fanatic. I have done some monsterous steelbow crossbows, but these small, light and firm models you show here take me over thirty years back to my childhood, when I started with fiberglass and pinewood😊 Even then when I was like 12 years old I made crossbows that shot very well with their minimalistic qualities and light draw weight 💜🇫🇮
awesome yes its not just about power. these small light crossbows are the result of the environment of the natives of the jungles of SE asia. if you have poison tipped bolts, all you need is something to deliver the poison
Appreciate you sharing our culture and weaponry 🙏
your welcome! any information on yue crossbows or bows? im interested to make them
Nice to see my hmong, Miao, hmu, people’s crossbow being talked about!
awesome
Nice to see my Hmong culture crossbow being showcased
glad i am able to
The design of that crossbow is probably an eagle head.
yes
Would love to see a Montegard video. I just purchased one myself and will be making a hemp string and possibly arrows for it in the future
You can find videos of Hmong people hunting small mammals in the Jungle of SouthEast Asia. Interesting.
So on (partially) on your recommandation I bought a 85 pound bow from Alibow. I would really like to (find a way to) buy the Chu Ko Nu bow version that you have for sale, if I'm still on time. While trying to buy the bow however from alibow I ran into some problems (I can't have a credit card or Paypal due to private issues) and I would like to know if there might still other avenues of payment that you would accept?
hi the chukunu is sold. i still have the hmong crossbow and african crosbsow
Much appreciated for doing this video, these crossbows are very interesting but not much information in English.
Glad it was helpful!
Eat more rice
Too much
just casually scroling down the comments and the more bottom you get the more troll the comment is
we gave the chieftan of the Montagnards of Pleiku Vietnam a crossbow that was made at Springfield Arms Company of Massachusetts in order to get the tribe to join the Special Forces.
What would you say is the poundage of that crossbow?
Maybe 30 lb
Nice video! Jack, are you Hmong?
Not that I know of
I am mostly Han with some mongol
I haven’t done a DNA test so I guess anything is possible
wheres ur rice hat
👍🏿🤠👍🏿
thx
What would you say is the weight of those light arrows you should in the video?
20 grain? i dunno
Does anyone have some details of how the trigger mechanism worked on the montengard crossbows.i have an original one but the trigger was missing when I required some 45 yrs ago. I have seen some were there was a trigger that had a wooden pin that went through the body of the bow through the trigger and it just would pivot on the pin but mine does not have a cross hole for a pin to go through I would like to restore it to as close to original as I can.
Any help is much appreciated
i made a video on the montegard crossbow check my most recent vids
Id love a very detailed vidoe on that montagaard T trigger.
Thank you
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
nice bwork
thx
Thanks. Was a good watch.
Glad you enjoyed it
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i only do historical
@@HistoricalWeapons no problem, someone else will see the comment too
Nice
you are the best , I think that you are from Mongolia ,
he is mixed