i didnt forget them, ppl ask why they didnt use guns in orient to same extent as Europe after they where exposed to it and i always refer them to repeating crossbows. i guarantee they used repeating crossbows off cavalry if they had it, horses dont respond well to a bolt in the butt dose every soldier today have a m50 or do most of them use high rate of fire relatively small caliber weps?
It seems like it would be a great hunting tool. The use of poison with the light hitting power reminds me of South American tribes hunting monkeys with blowguns.
yes according to textual sources just the draw of blood can be lethal. this weapon depends on it. that being said, even without poison, the enemy would be fearful of poison
You should do some videos on this very topic with Joerg Sparve. He has an awesome channel here on youtube and he built multiple versions of repeating bows and crossbows. He even helped some historians to determine the validity of their theories about the use of slingshot rounds found in archeological excavations, by reproducing them and testing them.
@@xiaotian5863 Would you care to explain why exaclty are you assuming that everything he makes has rubber bans? He made multiple bows and crossbows without using any material that was not present at the time of what he's creating. Of course, his channel is not strictly about history, I never said otherwise, but he is interested in history and he made multiple projects in which historical bows, crossbows, catapults (and other stuff too) are the main topic of the video. He worked with multiple channels, I don't see why this channel couldn't make a joined project based on historical data.
The fact that it is fancy, and advanced looking bow, probably more for show, reminds me of an Italian short sword the "cinquedea". very wide and decorative with gold and artistic designs, it was made to showoff but could be used defensively... The noble or whoever had that sword would've had bodyguards, and probably another more useful sword for emergencys
makes sense. im sure the chinese noble who owned that crossbow relied on bodyguards, but i think he just wanted something to protect himself...probably cuz he had no combat experience
i agree, the warring states design is likely a novelty thing intended to protect nobles. perhaps larger more lethal designs were made. look at the instant legolas, it is the same action.
the ming dynasty and Imjin War variants were clearly used in the military, not to mention the 180 A.D. writing of a repeating crossbow used for military
I don't see, atleast this version, to be that fancy, I say any village carpenter can make this and even the bow is just layered bamboo strips compare that to how other bows are made.
Bro these are straight up ingeniousness dude the fact the humanity back then had some mind boggling stuff shows the depths of our ingenuity and creativeness that belies our understanding of how smart we really were back then. Its amazing
I suppose that in the place where the string is frictioning with the wood you probably can put some metal either on the wood or on the string to make it last longer.
Longest used indeed. The Chinese were using some crossbows even during WW2 against the Japanese. Not sure if the repeating crossbow specifically was used, but I would expect so.
I could definitely see this weapon being popular among peasants, they could be used for hunting or defending crops from wild animals, and if raiders come or something the peasants can easily be used to lay down a high volume of fire if necessary. This seems to be the more likely than it being used for military applications. Though they could’ve easily had more robust powerful designs that we just don’t know about yet
Not all things have to run on electric because It tends to be less reliable. That's what make it one of the longest lived mechanical weapons because it didn't need electricity
cool scene so long as you dont think about how a bow and arrow is kind of a waste of the giant's strength... but in GoT, under-equipping giants in battle seemed to be a theme they stuck to diligantly
Very well done video! Can you tell me why those are often depicted with stacks of bamboo? This prod seems to be very crude/inefficient when combined with this ingeniuos semi-automatic repeating process?
hi because this is a cheap weapon often used by peasants for self defence and toys. there are a few artillery versions with hornbows seen in korea, but for china, they relied on single shot crossbows which are much more powerful due to the long powerstroke and draw weight. rate of fire is less important because manpower is rarely a shortage in china
thanks heaps for the video. dont discount low poundage as not being a military weapon though. most of modern soldiers are armed with assault not high calibure weapons (if you replace the lever with a ratchet/wheels. you can increase the poundage and power stroke length btw but u will reduce the rate of fire/assault component of wep)
ps those imgin war crossbows OBVIOUSLY recurved from the drawings. it adds a fair bit to the draw length of powerstroke compared to non recurved like 30% or something, massive depending how recurved
The way I see these used is in similar range as a thrown weapon, except the idea might have been to beat the enemy in volume of projectiles during such an exchange while melee clash is ongoing. You wouldn't need a ton of range or accuracy, just a projectile that can injure enemied when it comes down on them or at least shut their ability to throw projectiles down.
@@HistoricalWeapons Good glad to hear it. I really enjoy your content. There's not a lot out there on historical archery. Which always struck me as odd seeing how much influence archery has had on history.
Poison strikes me as being the only real use for these weapons because energy wise, even against a completely butt naked human these would be pretty awful weapons to try to kill somebody with outright. Weaken before an ensuing melee, disrupt, or essentially use as a force multiplier in self defense perhaps, but 9mm bullets already have trouble killing people because of small wound channels and low impact force. Low energy crossbow bolts aren't much wider which makes shot placement essential, and iirc it's sketchy if these rapid fire crossbows had the power to reliably penetrate a human cranium. But considering nerve agents can drop a man in as little as a minute depending on the poison in question, suddenly a weapon that mostly inflicts fleshwounds becomes rather nasty in unarmored fights between retainers and hitmen.
exactly the chinese never relied on these. the standard single shot crossbow is much more powerful (about 200 joules of kinetic energy compared to 20-40 joules with a repeating chu ku nu). and manpower is never a shortage in china so they relied on the humble single shooter that is drawn with legs with a long powerstroke. its like in the civil war in america they used the slow firing musket rifle, despite the fact that repeating guns already existed (now imagine a repeating henry that only outputs 40 joules of energy instead)
@@HistoricalWeapons It strikes me as being very similar to hidden throwing knives used by Samurai in Japan to deal with assassination attempts, or oddly the primary use of greatswords in a non-German context within Europe. Not very useful or ever intended for the battlefield, but a handy trick to have in case you get jumped in a public setting. Considering they did exist for quite a while too, they had to have some utility for civic settings.
The thing i love most about chinese history is that while eourpeans were still living in caves while the chinese had the most advanced technology for over 1000 years
On the discussion-why crossbows with magazines did not replace bows: please check "Lars Andersen"- th-cam.com/video/BEG-ly9tQGk/w-d-xo.html He specialized in fast moving bow shooting. It's unbelievable. Absolute unbelievable. I won't say this was the average level of an bow shooter in mediaval times, but probably some came close to it. Not sure how many hours Lars has spent on this, but it demonstrates, how fast and agile a bow hunter can be on short to mid range distances. However, this is still not beating the argument of the long learning curves involved in skilled bow shooting vs. the pretty short learning curve for crossbows. So I still think for a defensive army just recruiting quickly every man with 2 arms in an city for a siege and get them up as fast as possible, a crossbow is the choice. No matter with/without magazines, but magazines should have been welcomed, to compensate for missing precision of rookies, so I still wonder why this only happened end of mediaval century in europe. Possibly, crossbows had less firepower and could not penetrate armour as effective as a good bow shooter can.
Chinese history is fascinating, they were more advanced than any other civilization. However, you left out the part where the ancient Chinese were of Black African heritage, much like the original Greeks and native Americans. Modern day Chinese are actually Mongolian - invaded and stole the land during the mongol empire. Disease killed the original Chinese.
Cap bro the original chinese were huaxians. But later they became han. The Han ethnicity is a mix race of Huaxians, northern nomads, southern barbarian. That adopted the huaxia culture. So technically a Han can also have some mongolian genes in them.
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i didnt forget them, ppl ask why they didnt use guns in orient to same extent as Europe after they where exposed to it and i always refer them to repeating crossbows.
i guarantee they used repeating crossbows off cavalry if they had it, horses dont respond well to a bolt in the butt
dose every soldier today have a m50 or do most of them use high rate of fire relatively small caliber weps?
It seems like it would be a great hunting tool. The use of poison with the light hitting power reminds me of South American tribes hunting monkeys with blowguns.
I love blowguns...
yes according to textual sources just the draw of blood can be lethal. this weapon depends on it. that being said, even without poison, the enemy would be fearful of poison
big one coming
You should do some videos on this very topic with Joerg Sparve.
He has an awesome channel here on youtube and he built multiple versions of repeating bows and crossbows.
He even helped some historians to determine the validity of their theories about the use of slingshot rounds found in archeological excavations, by reproducing them and testing them.
@@magnumopus1628 joerg sprave does not make historical crossbow. he makes fun DIY weapons. elastic bands are a 18th century invention
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Would you care to explain why exaclty are you assuming that everything he makes has rubber bans?
He made multiple bows and crossbows without using any material that was not present at the time of what he's creating.
Of course, his channel is not strictly about history, I never said otherwise, but he is interested in history and he made multiple projects in which historical bows, crossbows, catapults (and other stuff too) are the main topic of the video.
He worked with multiple channels, I don't see why this channel couldn't make a joined project based on historical data.
@@magnumopus1628 Would be nice to collab
Where do I find this crossbow?
The fact that it is fancy, and advanced looking bow, probably more for show, reminds me of an Italian short sword the "cinquedea". very wide and decorative with gold and artistic designs, it was made to showoff but could be used defensively... The noble or whoever had that sword would've had bodyguards, and probably another more useful sword for emergencys
makes sense. im sure the chinese noble who owned that crossbow relied on bodyguards, but i think he just wanted something to protect himself...probably cuz he had no combat experience
i agree, the warring states design is likely a novelty thing intended to protect nobles. perhaps larger more lethal designs were made. look at the instant legolas, it is the same action.
the ming dynasty and Imjin War variants were clearly used in the military, not to mention the 180 A.D. writing of a repeating crossbow used for military
@@jaredchen616 nice
I don't see, atleast this version, to be that fancy, I say any village carpenter can make this and even the bow is just layered bamboo strips compare that to how other bows are made.
Bro these are straight up ingeniousness dude the fact the humanity back then had some mind boggling stuff shows the depths of our ingenuity and creativeness that belies our understanding of how smart we really were back then. Its amazing
I suppose that in the place where the string is frictioning with the wood you probably can put some metal either on the wood or on the string to make it last longer.
Just polish the wood
The most detailed understanding on these weapon from the internet. Most just imagine these as the main crossbow used by the chinese army.
thanks more videos coming
Can you just build a REALLY BIG chu ko nu? Like biggest possible one just because?
thats my plan
Increase the power stroke by setting it on the ground, and then giving the guy something of a broom handle to pull?
Longest used indeed. The Chinese were using some crossbows even during WW2 against the Japanese. Not sure if the repeating crossbow specifically was used, but I would expect so.
Apparently repeating crossbows became the archery equivalent of the lady's model revolver.
I could definitely see this weapon being popular among peasants, they could be used for hunting or defending crops from wild animals, and if raiders come or something the peasants can easily be used to lay down a high volume of fire if necessary. This seems to be the more likely than it being used for military applications. Though they could’ve easily had more robust powerful designs that we just don’t know about yet
I did not expect turret-mounted crossbows that BIG!!!
Wow, first i seen in action was the comptemerary Robin hood!!!! Near to know it was an actual viable weopon.
Always wondered how the hell these things work since seeing them in civilisation V. Thanks!
If only ancient China has electric hand-drill, full-auto mode!
hahaha, let me show u its features
Not all things have to run on electric because It tends to be less reliable. That's what make it one of the longest lived mechanical weapons because it didn't need electricity
Did u shave ur head just to look more Qing
yes
@@HistoricalWeapons chad
@@lukapichler3666 thanks
cool scene so long as you dont think about how a bow and arrow is kind of a waste of the giant's strength... but in GoT, under-equipping giants in battle seemed to be a theme they stuck to diligantly
kongming made this bow when he was in a party
Source
who is that
Source: I made it to f*ck up
I really do love the actual history of the weapon, but while the western billhook is cool, I to know who used it, and what it was used for. Thank you
another amazing video!!!
Glad you think so!
bow buddah should meet with gun jesus
Yes
Hello man,how you make that chu ko nu crossbow, i heard that korean also use that crossbow but with korean bow infront of that crossbow.
this one i bought
Very well done video!
Can you tell me why those are often depicted with stacks of bamboo? This prod seems to be very crude/inefficient when combined with this ingeniuos semi-automatic repeating process?
hi because this is a cheap weapon often used by peasants for self defence and toys. there are a few artillery versions with hornbows seen in korea, but for china, they relied on single shot crossbows which are much more powerful due to the long powerstroke and draw weight. rate of fire is less important because manpower is rarely a shortage in china
thanks heaps for the video. dont discount low poundage as not being a military weapon though. most of modern soldiers are armed with assault not high calibure weapons (if you replace the lever with a ratchet/wheels. you can increase the poundage and power stroke length btw but u will reduce the rate of fire/assault component of wep)
ps those imgin war crossbows OBVIOUSLY recurved from the drawings. it adds a fair bit to the draw length of powerstroke compared to non recurved like 30% or something, massive depending how recurved
What is the longest powerstroke we could achieve with this type of crossbows (without making it cumbersome to use)?
im making a giant repeating repeater for one man use
The way I see these used is in similar range as a thrown weapon, except the idea might have been to beat the enemy in volume of projectiles during such an exchange while melee clash is ongoing.
You wouldn't need a ton of range or accuracy, just a projectile that can injure enemied when it comes down on them or at least shut their ability to throw projectiles down.
You are selling your bows and crossbows. Because your moving. I hope that doesn’t mean you’re not going to stop making videos are you?
i will continue to make vids just moving
@@HistoricalWeapons Good glad to hear it. I really enjoy your content. There's not a lot out there on historical archery. Which always struck me as odd seeing how much influence archery has had on history.
@@notbobrosss3670 agreed especially outside of medieval influence
The power stroke is so short, of about 5"
I feel personally attacked 😭
What is the weight of those bolts? And how powerful could be a giant chu ko nu (I have seen something similar on a painting)?
we are making a giant korean repeater
Were this weapons cheap to mass produce?
yes
I was waiting to hear you say “let me show it’s features”.
Wow I like the look of it so nice shape
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Love the video man gane maken wan my self jusing ure video thx u very much love the history to
Poison strikes me as being the only real use for these weapons because energy wise, even against a completely butt naked human these would be pretty awful weapons to try to kill somebody with outright. Weaken before an ensuing melee, disrupt, or essentially use as a force multiplier in self defense perhaps, but 9mm bullets already have trouble killing people because of small wound channels and low impact force. Low energy crossbow bolts aren't much wider which makes shot placement essential, and iirc it's sketchy if these rapid fire crossbows had the power to reliably penetrate a human cranium. But considering nerve agents can drop a man in as little as a minute depending on the poison in question, suddenly a weapon that mostly inflicts fleshwounds becomes rather nasty in unarmored fights between retainers and hitmen.
exactly the chinese never relied on these. the standard single shot crossbow is much more powerful (about 200 joules of kinetic energy compared to 20-40 joules with a repeating chu ku nu). and manpower is never a shortage in china so they relied on the humble single shooter that is drawn with legs with a long powerstroke. its like in the civil war in america they used the slow firing musket rifle, despite the fact that repeating guns already existed (now imagine a repeating henry that only outputs 40 joules of energy instead)
@@HistoricalWeapons It strikes me as being very similar to hidden throwing knives used by Samurai in Japan to deal with assassination attempts, or oddly the primary use of greatswords in a non-German context within Europe. Not very useful or ever intended for the battlefield, but a handy trick to have in case you get jumped in a public setting. Considering they did exist for quite a while too, they had to have some utility for civic settings.
DNK there were repeating x-bows. Awesome.
What forces the pin down on the forward stroke to load the string in the slot?
The weight of string and the angle at which the bow’s brace height is pushing
If the hand lever was instead a hand crank that would have been so deadly back then
i needs a belt which did not exist, leather belts are unreliable, it needs rubber
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Age of empires II algorithm on point
LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES!!!-Joerg Sprave
nice work mate
Great video!
Who else only knows this from Age of Empires
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interesting history
The thing i love most about chinese history is that while eourpeans were still living in caves while the chinese had the most advanced technology for over 1000 years
False look at Greece
pretty sure this is illegal in California
i doubt it i recall people there using it for demonstrations
@@HistoricalWeapons it's a joke...lol with California's stance on gun control
Nice
nice haircut
On the discussion-why crossbows with magazines did not replace bows: please check "Lars Andersen"- th-cam.com/video/BEG-ly9tQGk/w-d-xo.html
He specialized in fast moving bow shooting. It's unbelievable. Absolute unbelievable. I won't say this was the average level of an bow shooter in mediaval times, but probably some came close to it. Not sure how many hours Lars has spent on this, but it demonstrates, how fast and agile a bow hunter can be on short to mid range distances. However, this is still not beating the argument of the long learning curves involved in skilled bow shooting vs. the pretty short learning curve for crossbows.
So I still think for a defensive army just recruiting quickly every man with 2 arms in an city for a siege and get them up as fast as possible, a crossbow is the choice. No matter with/without magazines, but magazines should have been welcomed, to compensate for missing precision of rookies, so I still wonder why this only happened end of mediaval century in europe.
Possibly, crossbows had less firepower and could not penetrate armour as effective as a good bow shooter can.
not used historically
judging from the low views most people just want to see you pulling warbows with no appreciation to historical archery weapons
I would give it time, he literally posted the video only 30 min ago as of my comment. I can speak for myself that I love these videos
@@rayray6490 thanks
man i used to spam these
Same
power stroke is too small in you crossbow.
nice
Beautiful
Bruh dat hair
wow
Chinese history is fascinating, they were more advanced than any other civilization. However, you left out the part where the ancient Chinese were of Black African heritage, much like the original Greeks and native Americans. Modern day Chinese are actually Mongolian - invaded and stole the land during the mongol empire. Disease killed the original Chinese.
Cap bro the original chinese were huaxians. But later they became han. The Han ethnicity is a mix race of Huaxians, northern nomads, southern barbarian. That adopted the huaxia culture. So technically a Han can also have some mongolian genes in them.
We waz Chinese and shieet
MORE PULLING HEAVY BOWS
his channel is called historical archery, not warbows
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I thought it was from Korea
Who cares, All look same.
thumbs up
MORE WARBOWS
relax he is just moving and trying to sell his stuff so that he can move
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zhu ko nu？是什么东西？直接zhu ge nu不行？诸葛连弩
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