For those of you wondering if you can daily a sport bike. The answer is YES. Depending on how much you ride and what kind of shape you are in, your body will take about a month to adapt to the riding position. There is always the option to change clip ons and rear sets to improve comfort. One more thing, proper riding position is important. If your levers are not adjusted properly and you keep your weight on your wrists, you will be miserable lol. Ride with your legs and core holding you up, not your wrists.
I was so afraid of super sports all my life for all this exact missconceptions. I stayed on nakeds for almost 8 Years until i fell in love with a R1. Now i dont wanna miss it for a minute. And you are right, once you adapt, it works like a charm. What took me weeks to "unlearn" trying to lean on my handlebars with my wrists. Once i learned from an advanced racer how to keep upright hugging the tank and activating my back muscles during riding all the pain in my wrists stopped. Now i regularly tour 300-400 km on it, no issues. The only righfull argument thats left is if you have chronic issues with your back or with your knees. Dont think theres anything to do about that....
I don't care what all the Harley brothers say, but to me, sport bikes are the pinnacle of style and 'presence' in motorcycles. Even people that are not into motorcycles will understand the "coolness" of sport bikes. And I honestly think the CBR is up there. Just like single sided swingarms, an undertail exhaust does not make logical sense, but it is so damn cool! That's also why, for me personally, the Ducati Panigale V2 is so cool! I don't even want a Ducati or a big V-twin sport bike, but I just like the styling with the single sided swingarm so much! (yes Ducatistas, I know they call it an L-twin, I said what I said). Couple the aggressive sport bike styling (miss the winglets though), with the sick colour scheme and the undertail exhaust and you have an amazing aesthetics package. Yes, people stopped buying sport bikes because standard/naked bikes became so good, but most people cannot deny that sport bikes will always have the best 'presence', period. Can you daily a sport bike? Yes, you can get used to anything, but logically and practically it's at the bottom of the list lol.
@@stoychopopov83 I would say packaging, length & weight. The catalytic converter is usually placed underneath the engine nowadays because of packaging and efficiency (I believe). That's why for example the Yamaha MT07 and MT09 just dump the exhaust in front of the rear wheel. There is no longer a need for a large muffler with those catalytic converters. As such, placing the end of the exhaust underneath the seat instead of underneath the engine or next to the rear wheel you are making it unnecessarily long, heavy and complicated to package, since most of the filtering & muffling work has been done underneath the engine already. I suspect the MotoGP just dumps the rear cylinder bank of the V4 straight back, which would make the most sense and end up as an undertail exhaust (and MotoGP requires no catalytic converters and hardly any muffling). But the CBR600RR is an inline 4 and as such has to route the exhaust underneath the engine regardless, so to route back up to the exhaust makes no practical sense. And I absolutely LOVE Honda for sticking with the styling and heritage of the undertail exhaust even though it doesn't make any sense! As for symmetry, that is not a high enough priority with today's noise and emission requirements I'm afraid.
IV been dailying this bike since the start of summer and I'm still rideing it to work and home every day at minimum. Personally there is no better feeling than knowing my baby is waiting for me just outside for when I clock off.
Great video! I have just passed my test and wanted this bike. It’s coming back 2.1k insurance, all other 600’s 2017 an below are £900, makes no sense and I’m gutted :(
That's about right. Insurance companies know that these new 600cc bikes will be wrecked in vast numbers by riders who go fast. Supersport motorcycles are much closer to exotic go-fast motorcycles than reasonable commuting and sport-touring motorcycles. These bikes are specifically designed to go fast on a track, despite 97% of them never seeing a track.
I haven't ridden the zx6r, but I'm guessing the Kawa might have a little more performance but will also be a little bit more compromised in the comfort and daily-ability
ZX-6R is a slightly bigger motorcycle. It also has some more grunt. The Kawasaki is ride by cable, unlike the Honda (hence quick-shifter only up on the Ninja), so take that into consideration. The Kawi has a fuel gauge (seriously Honda, WTF?) and I feel the brakes are ever so slightly better on the Kawasaki. I also think the Ninja is marginally smoother. Also, the under seat exhaust on the Honda looks awesome, but in a hot day in traffic, you'll feel the heat. All in all, they are both great machines. Not made for long trips, neither commuting, but if you are willing to love them, these bikes are awesome. So glad to see they ain't fully extinct just yet. They absolutely destroy any of the parallel twin fake sportbikes, that's for sure.
I'll probably take a Ten Kate modified 07 CBR600RR and keep the change. I know bikesocial threw up some dyno charts of each 600RR generation and revealed that this one's character is exacerbated by the Euro 5+ regulation.
If a bike puts a smile on your face then it fulfills its purpose.
@@KosmicKitchen definitely!
I’ve dailyed a 2015 fireblade to work for last two years and I’m 52
@@michaeltozer3983 legend 👌 hell of a way to wake up in the morning 😄
For those of you wondering if you can daily a sport bike. The answer is YES. Depending on how much you ride and what kind of shape you are in, your body will take about a month to adapt to the riding position. There is always the option to change clip ons and rear sets to improve comfort.
One more thing, proper riding position is important. If your levers are not adjusted properly and you keep your weight on your wrists, you will be miserable lol.
Ride with your legs and core holding you up, not your wrists.
@@WynterK excellent advice!
I was so afraid of super sports all my life for all this exact missconceptions. I stayed on nakeds for almost 8 Years until i fell in love with a R1. Now i dont wanna miss it for a minute. And you are right, once you adapt, it works like a charm. What took me weeks to "unlearn" trying to lean on my handlebars with my wrists. Once i learned from an advanced racer how to keep upright hugging the tank and activating my back muscles during riding all the pain in my wrists stopped. Now i regularly tour 300-400 km on it, no issues. The only righfull argument thats left is if you have chronic issues with your back or with your knees. Dont think theres anything to do about that....
Got mine in june. Paied 11700 Euro here in Germany. Sports package included.
Amazing deal! Enjoy it
With sport package just 11700?? That’s base price man
@@V8pulley yea that was one hell of a deal! :)
In Finland it is 18 990 €
@Automatic313 omfg O.O
Ja ik ben echt super blij dat Honda deze nieuw heeft terug gebracht. Je hebt me nog enthousiaster gemaakt over deze motor!
@@MrRick1610 leuk om te horen naamgenoot!
I don't care what all the Harley brothers say, but to me, sport bikes are the pinnacle of style and 'presence' in motorcycles. Even people that are not into motorcycles will understand the "coolness" of sport bikes. And I honestly think the CBR is up there. Just like single sided swingarms, an undertail exhaust does not make logical sense, but it is so damn cool! That's also why, for me personally, the Ducati Panigale V2 is so cool! I don't even want a Ducati or a big V-twin sport bike, but I just like the styling with the single sided swingarm so much! (yes Ducatistas, I know they call it an L-twin, I said what I said). Couple the aggressive sport bike styling (miss the winglets though), with the sick colour scheme and the undertail exhaust and you have an amazing aesthetics package. Yes, people stopped buying sport bikes because standard/naked bikes became so good, but most people cannot deny that sport bikes will always have the best 'presence', period. Can you daily a sport bike? Yes, you can get used to anything, but logically and practically it's at the bottom of the list lol.
@@MrBrutekracht fully agree mate! There's just nothing as cool as a proper sportsbike
Why an under-tail exhaust wouldn't make sense? I mean its more symmetrical and motogp bikes also have one pipe under the tail 🤷♂
@@stoychopopov83 I would say packaging, length & weight. The catalytic converter is usually placed underneath the engine nowadays because of packaging and efficiency (I believe). That's why for example the Yamaha MT07 and MT09 just dump the exhaust in front of the rear wheel. There is no longer a need for a large muffler with those catalytic converters. As such, placing the end of the exhaust underneath the seat instead of underneath the engine or next to the rear wheel you are making it unnecessarily long, heavy and complicated to package, since most of the filtering & muffling work has been done underneath the engine already. I suspect the MotoGP just dumps the rear cylinder bank of the V4 straight back, which would make the most sense and end up as an undertail exhaust (and MotoGP requires no catalytic converters and hardly any muffling). But the CBR600RR is an inline 4 and as such has to route the exhaust underneath the engine regardless, so to route back up to the exhaust makes no practical sense. And I absolutely LOVE Honda for sticking with the styling and heritage of the undertail exhaust even though it doesn't make any sense! As for symmetry, that is not a high enough priority with today's noise and emission requirements I'm afraid.
IV been dailying this bike since the start of summer and I'm still rideing it to work and home every day at minimum. Personally there is no better feeling than knowing my baby is waiting for me just outside for when I clock off.
@@conkm6458 would be a pleasure to walk up to this beauty every day!
Thank you Rick, was the lack of fuel gauge a problem for you?
Would've liked to see it, but definitely not a dealbreaker
Great video! I have just passed my test and wanted this bike. It’s coming back 2.1k insurance, all other 600’s 2017 an below are £900, makes no sense and I’m gutted :(
That's about right. Insurance companies know that these new 600cc bikes will be wrecked in vast numbers by riders who go fast. Supersport motorcycles are much closer to exotic go-fast motorcycles than reasonable commuting and sport-touring motorcycles. These bikes are specifically designed to go fast on a track, despite 97% of them never seeing a track.
Damn that's insane 🤯
@@langhamp8912fair point bud. Any idea when price drop is likely to be? Even z900 etc is £900 insurance first time
@@Ashmxo I know one guy that is paying more than $2000/month for insurance coverage on his CBR1000.
I’m deciding between this one and the kawasaki zx6r. What do you think? I commute, and that would be my first supersport bike. Thanks!
I haven't ridden the zx6r, but I'm guessing the Kawa might have a little more performance but will also be a little bit more compromised in the comfort and daily-ability
ZX-6R is a slightly bigger motorcycle. It also has some more grunt. The Kawasaki is ride by cable, unlike the Honda (hence quick-shifter only up on the Ninja), so take that into consideration.
The Kawi has a fuel gauge (seriously Honda, WTF?) and I feel the brakes are ever so slightly better on the Kawasaki. I also think the Ninja is marginally smoother. Also, the under seat exhaust on the Honda looks awesome, but in a hot day in traffic, you'll feel the heat. All in all, they are both great machines. Not made for long trips, neither commuting, but if you are willing to love them, these bikes are awesome. So glad to see they ain't fully extinct just yet. They absolutely destroy any of the parallel twin fake sportbikes, that's for sure.
@cocky_potato thanks for the insight!
a lot mote advanced tech on the honda
@JohnBrown-vn2qw apart from a fuel gauge 🤣
But yes, the Honda does have more tech then the Kawasaki.
How do you find the overall heat around the seat area? I know it’s relatively cooler at present but just interested to hear your view on this.
@@bentonywombledance324 it's been around 10c this week and it's quite nice to have a little heated seat! Can't speak for the warmer days though
Appreciate the response. Really enjoyed the review, your delivery is very good.
@bentonywombledance324 thanks for watching!
What Kriega bag do you have? And how do you like it?
@@itsemiemaximo9354 trail 18, I love it! Used it for 20.000kms on my big euro trip to Spain and Norway and for commuting, it's great
Hi. How much did it cost you to rent the bike for 2 weeks please?
Hi, I got the bike on loan from Honda Netherlands for a review
I'll probably take a Ten Kate modified 07 CBR600RR and keep the change. I know bikesocial threw up some dyno charts of each 600RR generation and revealed that this one's character is exacerbated by the Euro 5+ regulation.
@@Titot182 the 07s looks fantastic too!
With all electronics there bassicly Fool proof. It,s harder to ride one from 2002 whitout all those electronics.