“Lacking Core Principles” - Louisiana’s Ten Commandments Teaching Could REVOLUTIONIZE Education
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- Patrick, Vinnie, and Adam have an in-depth conversation about religion, education, and patriotism following Louisiana's new law allowing the Ten Commandments back in classrooms.
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Thomas Jefferson's letter was about the separation of the church and the state staying out of religion. This is where most people and politicians are uninformed.
The first amendent says the government cannot do this. This is a layup case to overturn the law upon first legal challenge.
The State as far as the federal government.
Jefferson was likely referring to religious dissident and refugee from Puritan Massachusetts Roger Williams, who around 1640 wrote how breaks in the wall separating the City of God from the Garden of Man makes a wilderness of both.
This is accurate. Separation of Church and State has been bastardized.
Jefferson’s letter was addressed to the church.
While I agree that the Ten Commandments shouldn’t be in classrooms, the misconception of separation Church and State is simply an idea no legal precedent
Separation of church and state is meant to keep the government from establishing a national religion and persecuting religious minorities.
It wasn't meant to exclude religious ideals or people from the political sphere.
Vote your values.
There is nothing in the constitution about separating church and state, your comment is ON POINT!!!!🙂
Exactly 💯
You said it correctly, people have twisted the law . The schools want to be the parents and God.
Have a wonderful night .
Separation of Church and State is to keep religious ideas from the political sphere. Votes belong to Caesar. It is a civic privilege. You can pray to your God all you want about which Caesar you want to rule over you. In the end, you render unto Caesar that which is his.
In the spirit of not excluding religious ideas, intelligent teachers should post the ten commandments as required, but also post parts of the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, and Christopher Hitchens.
Separation of religion and state. No sexual education, no religion indoctrination in schools.
There is nothing in our constitution about separation of church and state other than saying our government shall not establish a national religion for all citizen to exercise. It says nothing about people in government being able to express their religious belief in government places or public places. I would advocate for that if there was a consensus that agreed it was OK to do. I don't believe there should be a law to force these type things but there was a law Legislated that has kept the Bible and prayer our of schools. So in that since , it might be the only avenue we might have to to see more Christian values In our schools.
@@wesleywillis5933 There shouldn't be "Christian values" in public schools. Period. There is not state religion. The freedom of religion guaranteed by the first amendment in ludes freedom FROM religion too. This legislation putting the ten commandments in schools is disgraceful
Have you ever read what the cornerstone of Harvard University says?
“After God had carried us safe to New England and we had builded our houses, provided necessaries for our livelihood, reared convenient places for God’s worship and settled the civil government, one of the next things we longed for and looked after was to advance learning and perpetuate it to posterity, dreading to leave an illiterate ministry to the churches when our present ministers lie in the dust.”
Harvard was originally founded to teach clergymen, by puritans. The Massachusetts Bay colony was basically a theocracy in its early years.
@@FraterMerovius As was Columbia and many others also. If you want to have some fun try to find out how many schools and hospitals are built by Atheist.
"And then we murdered, raped and looted from the native inhabitants, because they weren't white and "Civilized" like us, we enjoyed our ill-gottn gains and tried to prevent any "brownies" from sneaking in and ruining our white paradise."
Why force the 10 commandments but not the bill of rights nor Declaration of Independence? This not even mentioning the fact Louisiana ranks 47th in nation for education. 1st commandment obviously violates the establishment clause cause it requires worship to a single deity that is the Hebrew warrior god. As a Hindu, I definitely think this law is unconstitutional because it explicitly requires religious instruction. Also historians agree, 10 commandments origin lies in the Egyptian 42 confessions of Ma’at so the commandments are not even the original source material…
@@newjerseylion4804 For the sake of clarity America's founders were focused on the (as you say) "Hebrew warrior God or as we call it the God of the Bible and no other. Even back then our founders knew the how the Aztecs, Mayans and even Islam operated and understood that the American experiment was incompatible for any other belief system.
No. If you want your children exposed to religion, then you should take them to church.
What religion?
@@Blackjack701AD whichever one you choose.
School is for learning.
Church is for worship.
@@anthonyrluna3056damn right
Keep them separate
These guys talk about freedom from government… then praise the Government forcing a religion on kids. 😂
@@sthubbins4038 freedom from an evil government/policies.
This shouldn’t be an argument. Separating church and state is there for reason. If there were Hindu or Islamic politicians trying to put there religious beliefs on the walls in a public school, these guys would be doing a 180
The church of satan has already filed a petition to post its commandments on the walls of schools. There is nothing the government can do about it.
The words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the U.S. Constitution, but the concept is enshrined in the very first freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Known as the establishment clause, the opening lines of the First Amendment (key point) prohibit the government from creating an official religion or favoring one religion (or nonreligion) over another.
That doesn’t even make sense though. Christianity and the founding of the United States are tied together. Most of our laws come from Christianity, our constitution and Declaration of Independence both mention Christianity and God.
Unless congress passes a religious law then everyone is protected under the first amendment, even political leaders.
I say bring morality back in our schools and culture by any means possible. Our country was founded on Christian principles, we have a right to uphold our history and culture just like any other country. We as a nation have lost our way because of moral corruption. Time to get back to basics and save future generations.
Thank God that the school that I worked at last year, the kids would stand. The kids that wanted to say the pledge, said the pledge. But everyone stood out of respect. (school in the southeast)
Here's how you do it:
1. Bring back the pledge, but modify it from "under God" to "under One".
2. Require theology AND humanism as a high school requirement, under the banner of social studies.
3. Keep human sexuality course, but divide in half, where, in the first half, you have basic human reproduction (6th grade) and basic human sexuality (12th grade). KEEP SEX OUT OF PRMARY SCHOOL LEVEL.
4. Teach home economics in high school, which should include financial literacy.
5. Teach critical thinking, speech, foreign language, and civics.
6. Institute a real PE program, and bring back Jr. ROTC.
7. Focus on job training and preparation in junior and senior grade. Require driver's education and training.
And that's a start. Give these kids structure and guidance.
Also it's a pretty decent list for educational reform, but there's some few modifications I would like to make with 4 of the 7 suggestions.
- As for number 1, we can have the Pledge of Allegiance like it was before when it was just " one nation, invisible, with liberty and just for all " instead of " one nation, under god, invisible with liberty and just for all ".
- As for number 2, I think the teachings of humanism and theology should be left up to the parents if they want to teach your parents either of the philosophies or both of the philosophies.
- As for number 3 I think human sexuality is something that an individual can figure out on their own in their teen years and young adult years with their peers who are obviously similar age as them. Sex education is something should be taught in the matter of middle school health class that teaches about the reproductive parts of males and females, the biological formation of birth, the different types of STDs, and the different types of contraceptives. Then the students can do what they want with that information.
- As for number 6, I agree we need to bring back real PE program. But I think we also need to introduce a compulsory combative class that teaches students boxing and wrestling that would be required to teach for at least 7 years of the K to 12 education ( aka from kindergarten to 6th grade at least and then students after 6th grade can choose if they want to keep taking that PE course or not ). It would not just teach children to effectively defend themselves in hand-to-hand combat situations at a early age, but it would also help build character.
Then after those four modifications, I want to also would like to add an suggestion of educational reform which would be acquiring to teach students at 12th grade a course that's about gun training and gun safety ( in which they will be trained and closely looked after by a trained professional marksman ).
@@25taylorkwI appreciate reading comments but yours made me chuckle with the “one nation, under God, *invisible*…” Haha, just so you’re aware it’s *indivisible* 🫡
Anywho, just a friendly acknowledgement- you have a good one.
non-edit edit:
I goofed on the format . 🙃
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”
First line of 1st amendment
Why is this so hard for people to wrap their heads around
You are confused. Congress isn't Louisiana state government and no one is mandated to follow the commandments so stop crying 😅
@@christiansoldier77public schools are federally funded agencies which are bound by federal law and the US constitution. Very christian of you to be hateful with your "stop crying 😂" comment at the end. This is why I'm a proud atheist. Don't know what text in that book you live by, but it's obviously not the parts about loving thy neighbor.
@@christiansoldier77 and as soon as they placed passages from the Koran in same that same classroom you’d be crying
You’re a hypocrite
@@GreetingsWithFire Idiot . Who says that the quran will be hung up ?
@@vizion311 A school is the property of the state not the federal government and is bound by the state government not the constitution. Since when do atheists love anyone?
Thou shall not rape?
Thou shall not enslave?
agreed, its in there. Man theft is a death sentence, so is rape.
Not sure you know your history.
Maybe you should read the book at least because you would have known the outcomes of the nations and people that did those things. Besides, you might actually know how to read the book as it's an instruction manual on life in story form
their fake god didn't have the time to meant slavery because his people loved it so much lol
Thou shall not suffer a witch to live... Oh, boy: all those harry potter fans are in big trouble now...!
While I am a Christian and support the teachings of the Ten Commandments, I believe it's hypocritical to force our religion on others, particularly in schools. Just as we don't want LGBTQ issues pushed on us, we shouldn't impose our religious beliefs on others.
While I agree that we shouldn't necessarily force it on anyone, our country was founded on Christian values. As we stray further from religion our country goes further into chaos. I believe we should reinforce these common values into our children, even if not necessarily in the form of the Ten Commandments
You're consistent. That's hard to find
💯 agree
In a world where Satan contends to be at the forefront of the dialogue. Christians should lovingly advocate for our own voice in the commons. We should look to Jesus for how this may be done.
@Socks756 Your statement is based on the greatest sin: Pride.
I think Adam is right about separation of church and state. He said “let’s just start with the pledge of allegiance”
I couldn’t agree more. Injecting Christianity and religion into public schools isn’t what Americas forefathers intended, regardless of America having Christian foundation. Our forefathers knew that better than anyone does today and they made it a point to separate church from state. They had a reason for that.
It’s so nice to hear Adam make great points again! I was getting worried for a little while but I knew he’d pull out of his funk. I’m glad to see him back to his old self
How is getting a six year old to mindlessly pledge allegiance to a country not indoctrination? That child has no idea the implications of what those words mean.
@@emasegreto1391 not all “indoctrination” is bad. Literally everything you teach a child as they grow up is technically indoctrination, the point is to try and expose them to as much positive, healthy, and constructive indoctrination as possible before they get to an age where you’re unable to teach them anything anymore, or “indoctrinate” them anymore.
Tell me, what would a kid look like and behave like that’s never had ANY “indoctrination”?
Would they even be able to function in the world? Every belief, moral ideal, every aspect of a persons worldview comes to them from some form of indoctrination. Having kids saying the pledge of allegiance is probably the most mild, the least destructive, the least dangerous, and the least likely type of indoctrination to lead to unhappiness in a kids life. Don’t you want kids in America to care for this country? To value it, to want to protect it and the people that they care about? What part of trying to instill a small amount of patriotism and love of country in our children? What is the harm in doing that?
@@emasegreto1391 Why force the 10 commandments but not the bill of rights nor Declaration of Independence? This not even mentioning the fact Louisiana ranks 47th in nation for education. 1st commandment obviously violates the establishment clause cause it requires worship to a single deity that is the Hebrew warrior god. As a Hindu, I definitely think this law is unconstitutional because it explicitly requires religious instruction. Also historians agree, 10 commandments origin lies in the Egyptian 42 confessions of Ma’at so the commandments are not even the original source material.
The Jew doesn't like Christian sentiment being taught. Shocker.
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This is the first time I disagree with the panel here. There must always be a separation of church and state. Forcing the 10 commandments in schools will not make the children behave better, and will open the door for the quran and hindu religious texts to be instituted as well in public schools. We are a secular institution, and if this is tolerated, it won't be long until people of a particular faith can hold public offices and are favored above everyone else. Like the genocidal ethno state that is Israel.
We already have laws that include some of these. Why not post laws instead?
They already hold our public offices and we currently have separation?
As a Christian nation, we ought to uphold those values.
If not, then some other religious zealots could own all of our media, politicians, and banks. Kind of like what aipac and isreal are doing to us now
Christianity should be suggested to the people, not forced. But for sure 100% positively we should not have a majority of our leaders be Jewish or sellouts for isreal.
Fuck that
We are not a secular nation by our founding. Our country only exists because of belief in God
Louisiana legislators have passed multiple laws this session ending transparency for elected officials in many different areas. This Ten Commandment thing us just a big distraction to keep people focusing on those real issues.
Obedience to the Word of God (Bible) is the biggest issue in our nation and it's why America is crumbling to pieces. If ppl obeyed the scriptures everything else would take care of itself.
Obedience to the Word of God (Bible) is the biggest issue in our nation and it's why America is crumbling to pieces. If ppl obeyed the scriptures everything else would take care of itself.
Keeping the masses dumb
Typical modern republican move
@@derekbaker777 the decline of America started decades ago. Not minding its own business and corruption and too much debt. How is religion going to fix all that lol y’all secretly want to force religion on other and complain when others do it. Crazies do not like competition
@@derekbaker777 myself and millions of others don't believe that. And that's OK. Being a good person isn't reliant on religious beliefs. We can be good people, honest people, people with morals and principles, honest people, loving and compassionate people, without having to believe in your religion or scriptures. People have a respect and common decency problem, not a God problem
Dumb law.
Don’t they realize that this opens the door for ALL religions to request the same right?
One of the problems with the Republicans is this Jesus freak stuff. Going to loose a lot of support peddling this shit. 💩
This is a country founded on Christian ideals and is majority Christian
I disagree
@@shakurbutler2638
It’s a Constitutional right.
So your disagreement does not matter.
@@Dangic23
Louisiana passing this law does not infringe on anyone’s constitutional right. And it doesn’t open the door for anything, unless those groups happen to gain the majority in Louisiana congress and gain a Governor who holds to the same views.
This entire Podcast is ok with it casue it represents a personal religion they all belong to... If it was a Mormon, Muslim, a Jew, Scientologist or an atheist, you all would be up at arms...
Nah. Christians would just point out the flaws and virtues.
Now those other groups may not be as understanding.
@@ethelz2centsthey point out the flaws in other religion, but pretend their own religions flaws don’t exist. Brainwashing at its finest. Keep religion out of public schools.
@@ethelz2cents Christian’s don’t even see the flaws in their own religion, but will point out others? Stop it… no intelligent grown adult who has the ability to apply critical thinking would claim any religion in the world, they’re all full of BS.
@@ethelz2centsBhuddhist are pretty understanding
The constitution, our Supreme law, states that the government shall not form a national religion for all people to adhere to. It says nothing about church and state. Just not the formation of a national religion.
Wrong. Your Federally mandated religion is : PRIDE. It has it's own laws, its own flag, & people are regularly fired for not worshipping the LGTBQP+HEZBOLLAH agenda.
I do remember saying the pledge of allegiance in school. We need to bring thst back as far as I'm concerned
Why?
people still say the pledge every day in schools. We should remove the "Under God" bit though.
They pray before every NASCAR race. They have done this for years
So what?
Sooooooooooo..........
NASCAR is not a government institution...
Regardless of the validity of the 10 commandments, it’s unconstitutional to put them in a public space
The 10 Commandments are unconstitutional ... they violate everyone's universal civil rights.
40% of the ten commandments is just telling you to worship god in specific ways
@@datsko6339 duh that’s why I’m against it lol
@@LiverpoolRubi i never acused you of being for it
@@datsko6339 I know I didn’t say you did
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That was awesome, wish we could have this in the USA
"Which Commandements are the problem?" The first four are literally about god wanting you to worship him in certain ways. This is the problem. How would you feel if the five pillars of Islam were mandated to be plastered on classroom walls? The first amendment should not be trifled with. period.
I could be wrong, but I'm sure they not saying to teach religion in the schools. They approved it to be on displays in the classrooms which is different.
Isn't it crazy how they want less shooting in schools but won't put thou shalt not kill on the wall lol
Why force the 10 commandments but not the bill of rights nor Declaration of Independence? This not even mentioning the fact Louisiana ranks 47th in nation for education. 1st commandment obviously violates the establishment clause cause it requires worship to a single deity that is the Hebrew warrior god. As a Hindu, I definitely think this law is unconstitutional because it explicitly requires religious instruction. Also historians agree, 10 commandments origin lies in the Egyptian 42 confessions of Ma’at so the commandments are not even the original source material…
@@newjerseylion4804I'm sorry I couldn't take you seriously after Hebrew warrior god
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As a teacher in South Africa, religion in schools is needed. Im not even that religious, which says alot.
Fellow South African here, yea I completely agree with this
Fine in South Africa. Not allowed in the USA because of the Constitution.
@toddtheisen8386 changes to your constitution is then needed
Totally agree... and I am also from South Africa 🇿🇦
Im south Africa too but that bullshit... Coz south Africa too is a circular country and it's like that for a reason.
I love how Adam stops saying the Pledge of Allegiance right when he's about to say, "And to the REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE Nation, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL! If you're going to say it brah, say it correctly and completely.
Thank you!
The "under god" part was added in the 1950s, to differentiate from "godless communism". The founders weren't christians, they were most either atheists or deists.
“under god” is not in the original pledge of allegiance
It was added 60+ years after the original came out
it;s sad you do not know your own history, shameful
@@alphapablo3514 to be fair most people don’t know “under god” was not in the original pledge
I think the point is that we should be instilling good values in our children. We should be teaching them good traditions and morals from books and sources that teach them to have integrity and to be good, unselfish people. I think it can be done without making truth claims about or pushing any one religion
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#6 is actually " Thou shalt not murder."
Thank you. So many get that one wrong.
for 5,000 years of translation after translation, this is a pretty small thing to nitpick
It's actually "thou shall not murder" not "thou shall not kill".
for the 5,000 years of translation after translation, that's a pretty small thing to nitpick
I'm a muslim and love this. America as a nation was founded on christian principles. People of other faiths are free to practise their religion which is how it should be.
These commandments are good and not offensive to me and shouldn't offend anyone sane. To put these ideals into children could help better society in America as a whole, the people deserve better
You are lying.
@@earlwallace2015 Dont think this individual is lying bc Muslims value family, elderly and parents especially a lot.
@Sophie3647s if you knew anything about the Quran you would know this post is fake.
Does a Muslim follow the Koran if so it’s bad news for non Muslims.
@@earlwallace2015 Totally agree. These people are fanatics, they don't care about anything our Jesus has to say.
It is beautiful & exciting to see people everywhere beginning to say His name above all JESUS CHRIST THANK YOU LOVE YOU ❤❤❤
Amen ‼️Prayer.. Goodness is an American ideal🙏
The Constitution consists of 4,543 words. None of them are “God”, “Jesus”, “Christianity”, or “Bible”
100% fact.
It has the sets of principles.
@@noyafootage many do.
HARMONY....................CONSTITUTION AND BIBLICAL ARE VERY CLOSE IN " PRINCIPLE )"
@@user-jn7rf9vt6l because you say so?
i think they should start saying the pledge again
Tennessee only voted to posting the ten commandments in the classroom not to teach them as curriculum in every class.
California will respond with the MARK OF THE BEAST tattoo on every student's head.
Those’s who don’t know their history are condemn to repeat it
Yet the Republican party has yet again selected a candidate who routinely breaks four of these Commandments. Guess the Ten are only important when it is convenient.
"Two Corinthians.." and these idiots think he's been anointed by Jesus himself.
@@synergygaming65Rachel that's you
Which ones does he break, kiddos?
@@Dejusticedthou shall not commit adultery
@@Leescorp so?
which ones do you break every day?
Adam's reaction when they were playing the clip of prayer, says alot about the guy..... smh
I have lived in Louisiana since the day I was born, and we have one of the highest percentages of Christians when it comes to state population. I see nothing wrong with having 10 commandments posted up in the classroom. If someone has a problem, then don't look.at it. Simple
Can I post parts of the Quran?
@@earlwallace2015 Absolutely
@@user-yy8ki9il8q you have never read the constitution.
@earlwallace2015 I personally don't have any issue with posting from the Quran, Bible, Vedas, Sutras, Talmud, Tao Te Ching, etc. Children will naturally gravitate to what they are comfortable knowing. Others may find new interests in these religious doctrines. My opinion is - "If it's good for the goose, then it's good for the gander"
@@user-yy8ki9il8q
It’s insane how PBD entertains this guy
These guys don't believe any of this. What a joke.
Remember church and state is to protect the populace; Government cannot infringe on our right to practice our faith not the other way around.
💯 agree.
❤️ love your podcast guys.
God bless you all
Sorry Adam but Catholics and Christian’s are very far from being “the same religion”. They have fundamental differences that are extremely stark and highly contradictory.
The fact that you said teachers are the same as politicians shows how backwards your entire philosophy is.
Yeah right hahaha
Clearly violates the constitution, so do y’all believe in the constitution or not 😂😂😂😂
I think everyone is so soft and fragile minded that they are offended by EVERYTHING! People need to grow up. Thats the real problem.
PBD is right about the founding of the nation based on Judeo- Christian values and the positive impact it had on our culture. Bring it back, we need to fix the mess we are in. Children need a good foundation. Our culture used to support parents in the raising of children with good moral principles. Now it works to undermine those principles.
It'll be one thing for the parents to establish at least a good enough foundation of principles that the kids can live by when they're at their homes, and obviously when the kids grow up to be adults they can choose what type of principles they keep with them or not in terms of living their lives. But I would also say that shove the religious belief down to the throats of people with either different beliefs or non beliefs is just something that's going to stir the pot to create divide. Not to mention K-12 schools are there for teaching kids about the basic fundamental of educational curriculums ( like reading, writing, math, science, and history for example ).
The 10 Commandments, are great rules to live by. If a child chooses to go in the opposite direction, they at least have the foundation of knowing right from wrong. And that’s another thing that we’ve gotten away from using the terminology right or wrong. It’s either the right or it’s wrong. And nobody uses those words anymore.
Donald thinks otherwise about the 10 commandments being great rules to live by.
They are supposed to be taught this at home, not at school.
Where in the bible does it say that the Sabbath day is sunday? The bible is very clear that the seventh day is the sabbath. I suppose Sunday, which is the first day of the week is now the seventh?
I believe in the culture at the time that the first day was Monday, making Sunday the 7.
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but by the tone you typed that in, it kind of sounds like you’re trying to discredit these people and start an argument. Don’t. It just makes you look stupid.
However, if you were genuinely curious, then I hope I answered your question
Saturday is Saturn's day is the Sabbath day. History is so screwed up does it even matter at this point?
It's your 7th working day, it's your rest day. A good sermon said if you have faith in God that he provides, rest on your 7th day. If you're spiritualy experienced you will see how you do have an abundant life when you can relax on your day off
@@stoundingresults Forgive me, but that is not written. It doesn't say that the Sabbath is the seventh day of whatever day of the week that you started work in. But even if that is the case, assuming you did start your work week on monday, then sunday would be the rest day, do you really believe that Christians stop all their labors, buying/selling on that day?
Sunday is the last day of the week. Week starts on Monday.
A conservative mind is a sound mind.
Louisiana schooling is Louisiana's business. I don't think they are teaching it but just displaying them. Fine with me.
How is the Ten Commandments Christian? They were given to the Jews.
Israelites Not Israelis
Christians are the people who accepted the New Covenant God established with the world and so they become "God's Spiritual Israel" and the Word of God in entirety became the heritage of Christians.
Christians are those who have accepted the New Covenant established by God with the world, making them 'God's Spiritual Israel,' and the entire Word of God has become the heritage of Christians.
None of the 10 commandments are bad however despite having these commandments on display throughout our history…the federal and various state governments have broken every last one repeatedly.
Apparently you don't understand why they exist
@@Blackjack701AD: Apparently you didn't read his comment.
GOOD grief
Especially Donald, "grab em by the pp" Trump. There is a particular one he likes breaking.
# 1 , # 2 , # 3 , & # 4 , are ALL unconstitutional. Sorry, but posting the 10 Zionists' Commandments in any U.S.A. government building is a direct Prima facie violation of 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law, requiring the arrest, fines, imprisonment, and / or execution of those violating Federal Law.
Ppl should pledge allegiance to God, not a flag that can't help you in any way.
I don't want anyone's religion forced on my children
For those who dont know the 4th commandment on this version is wrong. Is not Sunday is Saturday. Also would like to add that in biblical prophecy the church and state will reunite and will be a religious persecution. Is coming folks
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# 1 is unconstitutional & as 'commands' it is under duress, violation of constitutional rights, subjecting those that pass such a law to fines, prison, or public executions: 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights Under Color of Law.
@@SeaJay_OceansYou are correct but unfortunate little by little church and state is uniting
We took God out of schools long ago. Since that happened we have so much violence and mass killings in schools. Maybe let's rehire God again and see what happens. Or let's put up the "golden rule". "Do onto others the way you would have them do on to you." And maybe start the school day with that and a 15 minute participation of how each student can put that sentence into play. I think that would be more productive than teaching them about masturbation and gender ideology. Anyone agree?
God was never in public schools, only private schools. I went to school in the 80s-90s in 3 states.
God was never meant to be in schools. That's why it was "taken out"
The problem is that we took discipline out of schools, not God. Teachers cannot effectively keep order in schools, which leads to disorderliness in other areas of life as these children grow up.
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One of the best episode ❤
A school is not state.
A public school is funded by tax money from the state and the curriculum is determined by government employees… it is state
@@lewis7394 it's not state in the sense that separation between church and state is concerned.
@@duanem.5738 there are numerous legal precedents that say otherwise.
That's just your opinion, man
@@benjamindeyo9839 of course it's my opinion. That's why I said it
@@benjamindeyo9839 it's almost my opinion that all school age children should learn and recite the pledge of allegiance every morning. It's their civic duty. The purpose of the pledge was to promote national cohesion, not to convert.
What's interesting is that individuals who feel offended by the Ten Commandments (simple morals) are not concerned with what teachers are trying to teach students about sexuality, and the fact that teachers are getting arrested for pedophilia. Don't you think there is a connection there?
What's interesting about the individuals who feel the Ten Commandments ( laws passed down to the Israelites) are not concerned that Priests and Reverends are sexually assaulting children, the fact that the man they all deem to be messiah like and should be president has broken most of those Commandments, and the same people W talk about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are the law of the land just ignore the 1st amendment.
Dont you think there is a connection there?
Both are wrong , and?
False, what makes you think there aren't people against both? We gotta keep religion out of government which pertains to government run schools. We also gotta keep weirdos and pdfiles outta schools.
What about the pedo’s in the church?
Actually, the numbers show that there has been a rise in the arrest of teachers in the last couple of years, especially among female teachers.
The change in this country reminds me of a transporter in the old Star Trek TV show. It moves you from one point to another but it also removes or disables any weapons that are detected. The 1960’s is the transporter that brought us from the past into the present. In the process, the liberals removed anything that they perceived as a weapon. Gone are the pledge of allegiance, the prayers in public school along with the enactment of the first gun control law. Also, the liberalization of the mainstream Churches which brought about major changes resulting in splits between conservatives and liberals.
that's a wild reading of the ten commandments biz bros.
Pledge of Allegiance and 10 Commandments in every classroom is a great idea. Even non believers should know about the 10 Commandments as they are the underpinnings for society and law.
Truth is our society only supports about 3 or 4 of the 10 Commandments…. We have a very amoral society currently and very little patriotism…..
I agree with you! We need leaders who will guide our nation back to moral values and patriotism.
no. the first 4 commandments are literally about how to worship god in specific ways. This is unconstitutional to have this in public schools. This legislation is completely disgraceful and a direct violation of the first amendment. I don't think it will take long for this to be struck down/overturned, as it should be.
They want more people to be in jail plain and simple. I just found out that we pay 50k per incarcerated prisoner a year. 50k!!!!!!!!!!!! How INSANE IS THAT!!!!!!!
As a Louisianian, we don’t care if it’s offensive. Our legislators voted it in because of who we picked as our legislators. Our Governor signed it into law because of who we picked to be our Governor. Vote the way you like in the State that you live.
That's like saying California and New York voted for their legislators, so whatever crackpot legislation they might pass, regardless of whether it blatantly violates the Constitution, is all fine and dandy. The Constitution and Bill of Rights hold true in all states (at least ideally), and denying anyone their rights is wrong.
@@FraterMerovius
The bill of rights do not hold true for states. Your presupposition is wrong.
@@levibaer18 Tell that to SCOTUS.
And then, there's this:
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Make of it what you will.
Which, of those rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, would you approve of states restricting or abolishing?
@@FraterMerovius
The 10th Amendment, which says:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people”.
@@levibaer18 And? Please be more specific.
You see, I do hold that the bill of rights applies to the states, as originally intended by those who crafted the 14th amendment. That the Supreme Court in the years following reconstruction chose to only selectively incorporate some of the enumerated rights strikes me as an affront to justice. That we still have to be arguing over this today is indicative of a problem.
I do not hold, for instance that certain states may ban weapons they find frightening, even though the 2nd amendment guarantees the right to both keep and bear arms, of unspecified types. Nor do I hold that states might employ some form of racial discrimination in their hiring practices, even if meant to redress certain past discriminatory practices. And to be consistent, I also hold that states cannot spend taxpayers' money in support of any religion or faith, nor may the state compel attendance in any institution that promotes or promulgates the doctrines of any specific religion. Any such support or promulgation must either apply equally to any and all religions, or must be curtailed entirely.
Of course, you are free to disagree. And indeed, this issue has caused a great deal of legal consternation over the generations. But I believe that the constitution means what it says, and original intent is important, if not paramount. I will stand on the hill of the privileges and immunities clause, and fight there to the last.
What’s bad is they want to observe Sunday as the Sabbath. The Sabbath is on Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. It’s the mark of the beast
That has nothing to do with the mark of the beast
10 COMMANDMENTS TEACHES STUDENTS TO BE GOOD, RIGHTOUS, HUMAN BEINGS. SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT!!
Everything.
Dumb law.
Don’t they realize that this opens the door for ALL religions to request the same right?
Teach moral and values at home .. or send your kid to religious private school
its just words and teaches nothing
Who morals and values?
@@teebone2157
Oh well how many people have you killed.
Old Testament is mandatory in Israel’s high schools
We had a short prayer silently and said the pledge every morning I was in school. You could stand quietly and think about anything or you could pray silently. The Pledge of Allegiance should be said.
The prayer was silent so no one knew what you were saying. Only the pledge was oral. I graduated in 1963 so that the timeline.
I’d trust individuals that have a record of good morals and standards by wanting the best for the world over ones that fear a man in the sky that obviously doesn’t govern
When are we going to start teaching the 5 pillars of Islam? I’m sure christian’s would love that
You could always move to a country based on those principles if they are that important to you. I recommend Duolingo, babbel and rosseta stone to start learning arabic.
Because we are a nation based on Christian principles, values, and scriptural moral law. It is in direct contradiction to Quran and Hadiths.
@@edwardclark8273 Tell me again where the word God or christianity is found in the constitution. You know, the founding document of our nation?
@@edwardclark8273 *Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof*
Well Lucifer's PRIDE is USA's official federally mandated state-sponsored religion.
When we removed God from schools, we removed the principles that go with God. The principles of God. Joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. When you remove God, the teaching of his principles follow. Thankfully tho, like you all said here, when you reinstate God, his principles come back with him. Hopefully this catches on
I thought teachings of god started at home from your parents. For whatever reason the right love to mix religion and public government together but complain when other ideologies try to do the same.
God shouldn't have been in the schools to begin with. That is literally what indoctrination is. Teach it at home, live it in your life, don't push it on people who don't want it. Same with gender ideology and the likes. Keep things that belong in your home, in your home.
Where I am in South Carolina, they still do the Pledge of Allegiance at school.
…be a patriot for Jesus
Seems like you guys are lacking an understanding of the constitution and the separation of church and state
Separation of Church and state to protect the church from being manipulated by the state -example- (as we see today with churches flying pride flags)...
just like the 2nd amendment- 1791 (antifederalist) "
The Second Amendment protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms for a well-regulated militia. ( Regulated means " control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.) and Militia (all able-bodied men of a certain age range were members of the militia, depending on each colony's rule. Individual towns formed local independent militias for their own defense.) ...The definition from the founding cannot be changed regardless of what manipulators say...
Think about it....today, Authoritarians are trying to convince people boys can be girls and it's a hate crime if you disagree.....Crazy.Clown world times
1984 interview with Yuri Bezmenov was Correct " Warning to America" ...this will blow your mind
They also don't care about the peaceful transfer of power so....
Amazing ❤!
My grandmother was very knowledgeable when it came to the Bible. When I was young I asked her about why she believed the Bible, believed in God. Her response was, while she absolutely believed in the Lord our savior through Christ and even if the Bible wasn't filled "God's word", if it was only written/influenced by "man" if people would live their life, abiding by, using the commandments as a guideline, the world would be a much better place. The Bible is filled with people making choices and consequences of those choices. Our society wants us to believe our choices have zero consequences. Baffles me how so many people are living in a delusional world.
PBDs comparing this to LGBT in classrooms is dumb. Red states do crap like this just asking to be divisive when they could do nothing at all and be just fine. 50th in education and we are talking about stuff like this. Dumb
Pat is dumb like this quite a bit lately
So why are you talking about it ? It isn't a big deal stop crying 😢
Teach the 10 commandments don’t legislate them and don’t prohibit them, let the children choose
And let them choose to drink and tanzition surgery oh yeah and get married.
Children should be learning civics, not a religion in school. I was a part of a Christian after school group at school, so it’s not that I don’t believe in God. My issue is the overreach here. Religion should not be taught in public school.
What about the oher 603 commandments fake Moses "brought down?"
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How do know their fake, do you have any evidence.
@@merrytunes8697 schools used to teach out of only one book, can you guess which one?
Go look it up.
These guys love freedom(which includes freedom of religion) until it’s something they don’t agree with.
These guys are disagreeing with the VERY FIRST amendment and are talking about patriotism. 😂
Exactly ! Hypocrisy at its best - par for the course
It is not about LGBT religion, there are Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, and many other religions. The first one is already insulting to other religions. There is a separation of church and states. We should keep that way.
What we're doing now certainly isn't working and it's why the liberal half of America can't even define what a man or woman is, and our nation has become exactly like Romans 1:18-32 describes. We find the term "God" written throughout our Constitution for a reason and it's also why America has "In God We Trust" engraved on our currency and it's why the Supreme Court has a Statute of Moses with Tablets in hand next to their entrance because America's laws are even based in the Bible, so these things alone proves that our founding fathers had God in mind when forming the foundation of America, which Democrats reject because ppl on the left serve Satan, and it shows by the ungodly things Democrats support and uplift like Transgender ideology and push their fake "climate change" nonsense that the Bible refutes and doesn't support.
That moment was so absurd, as if the only religion other than Christianity is “the LGBTQ”. 😂
Exactly PBD is so short sighted
Even if none were bad it’s still a BAD IDEA
Preference for virtue is necessary to a civil society.
@@ethelz2cents This is America. So we have ppl that have other beliefs but law is the law so respect it.
God Bless You ALL!!
This is why I love watching your show!!
That’s so beautiful!
Every instruction comes from a moral/religious framework. There is no neutrality.
Also, it seems many of you don't understand what separation of church and state actually means. Its intention keeps the government out of the church, not the church out of the state
And what part of mandating a religious document being posted in tax funded public schools isn't the government getting its fingers into religion/the church? The government intervening in the church doesn't only mean matters that the church sees as negative. I don't believe you fully understand the separation of church and state.
@@FraterMerovius It means that the Federal Government cannot establish an American National Church that all citizens must be apart of, like what happened in England and many other countries.
However, you are missing the fundamental point, all instruction and teaching comes from a religious framework. The nature of man, the nature of wisdom and knowledge, the progress of man, our responsibility personally and corporately. These are religious questions that work themselves into our various topics of study.
@@bradyoung1658 You are correct in that all of our teachings and knowledge derive from a religious or metaphysical standpoint. I don't deny that, it would be foolish. The point is, selecting a specific religion or set of related religions is beyond the purview of the government. I have no problem with teaching morality and ethics, even if those derive from a particular religion that has been embraced by the majority. But including specific religious dogmas or rules that are purely sectarian in nature should be avoided like a plague. The effort should be made to find those common beliefs that are more universal, without allowing them to become diluted and meaningless.
I stand 100% with Louisiana and I say it’s about time. We have never needed God in our schools more than we do now.
Who's GOD?
@@earlwallace2015your creator who misses his kids.
You are a wannabe religious tyrant and have no place in a free society.
@@arlemoine My creator was my dad, no such thing as "god". Prove it.
@@user-st9cp6of8w you shouldn't try to bind God to something that you can understand in your material box. But the fine-tuned order of creation and the moral compass imprinted on our heart are what God says makes Him self-evident. But people choose to look away because they love the dark and don't want their sins exposed.
I graduated highschool 4 years ago, you can not talk about history without explaining religion.
Comedy gold in History of the World pt1 when Mel Brooks plays Moses . Commandments and parting of the sea.
8:46 pledge of allegiance didn’t exist until the 1950s / McCarthyist / red scare era. I know that’s a time you aspire to - when speech was actually truly repressed. That’s what you like.
Doesn't matter when it first existed from. Can't speak from personal experience but was USA repressive. Anyway what is wrong with pledging allegiance to your country.
The dept of education and the EPA are pretty new. Should we rid ourselves of those additions as well?
The most important rules of the universe apparently, but most Christians can't cite the majority of them.
Cope 😂
Egos make us all think we know what's best.
Such a great show.
LOL Lousiana advancing Lucifer's religion is Amazing !
Separation of Church and state originally is to protect the Church from the state. America is founded on Christian values.
No it isn’t. In God We Trust was added in the 1950’s. 😂 The Founders wanted a Government free of monarchy and religious rule, that’s the entire reason this country was created.
No it absolutely wasn't. Please educate yourself. Almost none of the founding fathers believed in Christianity and fought hard and carefully to protect our country from its influence, and specifically drafted the constitution to stop its influence in law, order, and government.