@@DawitsLookingforEmilia In all honesty I believe theres a similar type of connection between the two since Arlecchino's fire is the key to the memory erasure vials Dottore made. And as stated indirectly many times in Genshin, memory is life, and memory loss or erasure is the same a death (literally Arlecchino's quest and Sumeru itself). Plus Alrecchino's design, special fire, weapon etc supports that idea
If I'm not mistaken Genshin is set to have at least 10 years plan into the future. We are now in the 4th year, which makes our arrival in Snezhnaya will mark the 5th year, it will also mark the end of Traveler's journey through Teyvat. And according to the first story trailer, anything else beyond that is a mystery. I can only assume that the first 5 years is the introduction and set-up, and the last 5 will be where the real exciting shit happen. Where in the main quests, characters and Archons all over Teyvat meet and work together, secrets revealed, plots got twisted like ankles, all hell break lose, all the typical Avengers Assemble level shit. So I am genuinely excited for Genshin story progression after the 5 years set-up.
Not to mention the flames that burn memories and considers those who consume it as dead and reborn people. Aranara questline also tells us that memories = life.
If I'm not mistaken, during the Crimson Moon dynasty is when Khaenri'ah was powering their machinery with Azosite/elemental energy? And it was after during the Eclipse dynasty that they started using Abyssal power instead. I also think it's interesting that Renova said to Mavuika that she wasn't interested in the fate of "this land _anymore_". Seems like the change might not just have been about power supply or efficiency, but kinda sounds like personal beef (and a bad break up lol) was a factor as well. Would be crazy if the curse was actually Renova secretly trying to save her once-worshippers using the only power she has, under the guise of punishment so the PO wouldn't object.
I think the curse was ordered by the heavenly principles themselves because in the 5.3 archon quest (spoilers) . . . . . . when asked to abandon one of her rules, ronova says that the curse of immortality must stand and she cannot overrule it, which means she's not allowed to make such decisions on her own (it was also mentioned before that the curse takes effect on a higher level of reality)
@liathelie8805 yea it was a spontaneous crack theory lol My next guess is they just didn't want to risk a Khaenrian carrying Forbidden Knowledge into the ley lines after death Altho how that works now with Capitano who knows
I am under impression that machinery was working on Azosite until the last generations of Eclipse dynasty, and Cataclysm quickly followed after they switched to (ab)using Abyssal power for everything. Some even say that the letter asking to preserve old-style technology was written to the same person that later became regent of Khaenri'ah when the king was "indisposed". Crimson Moon Dynasty preferred alchemy and combat animals to robots.
Want to point out that Dain's monologue in Travail might not specifically mean that no Gods ever gazed at Khaenri'ah. There are at least 2 other possibilities: 1. Might be metaphorical, as N also told as very similar thing: "Just as prophecies are usually only the future as seen from the perspectives of the gods, could things be happening in hidden corners where the gods' gaze does not fall?" And this turned out to be not literal place where gods didn't see but just a deception put on by Focalors/Furina 2. Technically, all his monologues seem to be from the current time we play, not past (Dragon inally faces his perturbation; The God of Contracts, senselessly slaughtered etc). Which would mean, it's more likely that Khaenri'ah is in a place where no gods gaze RIGHT NOW, which could also just be abyss tbh So, I would say there's actually a good chance Ronova (or even other shades) did have their eyes on khaenri'ah for some time
Interestingly enough, the crimson moon was present when the Cataclysm was hitting in Khaenri'ah and there is also this sentence in Dain's introduction that says that "the crimson moon swallows the eclipse/the crimson moon takes revenge on the eclipse (if we look at the CN translation). So the likelihood that the crimson moon present during the crimson moon dynasty was Ronova increases tenfold.
We also learn that Memories & stories can create a soul like guthred in the night kingdom. And arlecchino said cerlvie was a memory ( hopefully i didn't Butcher the name). I guess you can say it's an ability
To add more to the Ronova is the Crimson Moon theory, in the book "Fall of the Faded Castle"(if i am not wrong the Faded Castle is obviously Remurian) it is said that "The dark-robed figure would surely collect on debts owed," which sounds a lot like how Ronova demanded death for her powers being used, the book goes onto speak about how the figure snatched the lives of everyone in the castle and it's master with these lines "A glowing **red** fog-cloud, Embraced the castle just like a shroud" The **blood moon** the towers once blocked reappeared in the sky, Its **baleful glow** sweeping the land." However if I am not wrong there was no mention of the Shade of Death on anything related to the fall of Remuria and Remus but I do think Remus in his desperation to save his people might have struck some sort of deal with Ronova but im not sure, just wanted to add input
Also, go read the xbox glider wings, and then dains intro message. If the crimson moon is ronova, dain's brother predicted her cursing the khaenriahns.
I'm so grateful you told me about the Xbox glider description...and personally shocked they would include such heavy lore in a temporary marketing item. Hoyo makes such strange decisions. It legitimately is such a reveal of Dain and Lumine's actions and consequences
@@dear_totheheart That's how they keep interest on the game high. They don't tell stuff right away until it's relevant (such as how the false sky wasn't important until now) but drop these hints all over the place so the community gets stirred up into trying to solve the puzzle. Tbh, it's a genius user retention strategy.
@@SirZelean oh I love and appreciate that part! I meant I was more surprised that they put something so lore critical to Genshin in a partner collab item (that I think might only be available temporarily?). Either way, I really love how much detail they hide basically in plain sight and is available for those who take the time to look/read
@@SirZelean It's like how in Souls game that they'll never explicitly tell you what has happened in the past but leave items with subtle descriptions that eventually pieces everything together perfectly.
The Perinheri corridor part always reminds me of a Netflix german series called "DARK", there was an underground corridor constructed that had a metal door at the end of it and passing through it put you in a different timeline. Really good series btw I highly recommend
We know Celestia isn't opposed to stealing power/authority from the Natives of Teyvat. Maybe The Crimson Moon held the original authority over death and Ronova stole that power from it.
Okay, so... It might sound crazy but it will make sense: we all know (I hope) all the games are connected. It's about time we notice the bigger connections here. Just as Nibelung might as well be one of the Scions of Long, the Aeon of Permanence (that traveled to numerous worlds), there's one Aeon that we know of that has deep connections with Life/Death and is also the same Aeon who "gifted" the Crimson Moon "curse" to Hoolay and others in HSR. Yaoshi, who also have the same eye symbols on their body, if we're connecting the origin of immortality that only Ronova can give -- but we never heard of Ronova anywhere else, so we might as well believe that her power (and maybe the power of all Shades) come from this very Aeon, the Aeon of Abundance. I'm not saying the Primordial One is also a follower of this Path but what's interesting to me is (just as Amphoreus is a planet where its inhabitants have no knowledge of Aeons but three Paths "converge" there) how Teyvat may "converge" multiple Paths (just think about Rememberance's (Fuli) Eden of Blessed Insight and the whole Ley Line system in Genshin) and Nibelung (Permanence) versus the Shade/Shades (Abundance) could be a thing. When Mavuika talks about the Abyss being in "worlds beyond Teyvat" and we find mentions of "the black tide" referring to it in old Natlan documents, I remembered immediately how the Honkai is also called "the black tide" a few times in HI3. Also, Amphoreus' trailer referred to the black tide as something similar. It's the Honkai/Abyss/Kami/The Black Tide, and its manifestations are all there. Not only that, but all the Path connections, and the origins of these powers are all at play here. P.S.: I recommend an extra reading about Phlogiston, Polka Kakamond, and the planet Salsotto (all in HSR).
I agree. I refuse to believe these two universes are not connected when both games seem to suggest it very heavily. We have HSR that is all about other planets, worlds, extended for a whole universe and probably even further with a planet similar to Teyvat (no idea of the worlds beyond their own) and Teyvat covered by fake sky, with beings that are plain said to be visiting other worlds in the past. Isolated planet with „descenders” „own rules” and all. I think we will reach a point when these two game will be officially connected. Not like Genshin characters able to travel to HSR world and vice versa but in terms of mentions. Teyvat will be aware of existence of Astral Express and other worlds while HSR will be aware of existence of Teyvat. The only question is not exactly IF HSR and Genshin are connected but rather what is the distance in space and time between them. Teyvat can be something that don’t exist in Honkai yet or existed somewhere in ancient past. It would be interesting to observe „beginning” or „ending” of Teyvat from Astral Express perspective. Maybe Phanes follows one of the Honkai’s paths, maybe he is an aeon itself or maybe some entity equal to aeons but with some kind of beef with them and complex of creating world where they don’t exists. I’m just curious about „Abyss is still somewhere beyond Teyvat”, is that mean we will have mentions about the Abyss in Honkai?
@angelaziegler1320 I agree with everything you said. As someone who plays all of Hoyo's games it's super interesting to find the connections, the similarities between them, and notice how they know very well what they're doing. The devs themselves said they want to make something like the MCU. The mystery for me it's exactly if Teyvat and Genshin's story is in the past, present or future. Also, yes. In Honkai Impact 3rd there was a line saying the Honkai has other names in other worlds. One of them was the Abyss (the way other civilization called it in other world - that's on HI3, not Genshin.) They have the same similarities and it's interesting how everything becomes bigger and the story becomes more about the universe itself than to what's happening only in Teyvat.
Correct me if I’m wrong, it stated that the heavenly principles reshaped the ley lines to counter the abyss but then all mentions later say that they created them. It makes more sense that they reshaped them
It was not reshaping but rather creating them on the basis of spirit veins (i don't remember how it was actually named) as said in the Chenyu Vale lore and by the Lord of the Night. The whole problem of the Chenyu Vale main world quest was the dysfunction of that system which predates PO and is said to be dangerous to humans. Bc of that Fujin needed that Jade ritual. And also the way LoN implied that dragons of that time DID not know how to work with ley lines??? Like wtf gurl- Dragons as beings of the Light realm didn't need the spcific flow of elemental energy within the ley lines. The Light realm is just a chaotic mess of that. But humans can't live in these conditions. So creation of the system where memories and elemental energy will flow within must be created.
@@huasaihun fellow Ashikai theory subscriber spotted. I refuse to believe that the Ley Lines are the true roots of the world, it makes more sense for them to have grown around the spirit veins of old for ease of access to Teyvat
One more thing, Arlecchino hears the voices of the slain in her sleep, the same thing Capitano avoided by not falling asleep. Because he held the souls of the fallen... so does Arlecchino's body or fire also act as a leyline?
I agree with this. Especially when it comes to Arlecchino’s design. It’s too similar to the Shade of Death. Ronova and Arlecchino have a very similar personality too. They both have reservations towards the Heavenly Principles. Really Arlecchino started she would turn against The Tsaritsa if it ever came to it and if she does have connection to Ronova, why isn’t she immortal and if she is why hasn’t her body deteriorated, is she a full blooded Khaenri’an or half blooded but if she’s half blooded does that mean she’s immune to wilderness curse for the half bloods like Kaeya is??? I need answers HOYO!!!!!
I commented on this before, but damn these intros are so random. I love it. Edit: Wait Mavuika said the Abyss was on other worlds, so the primordial one must have known about it so he created the Ley Lines as a precaution for potential Abyss Attacks
Interesting parallels between the moon sisters and shades; • Are all women. • Angel symbolism (eyes, wings, halos.) • Missing their 4th member (Istaroth & 4th Moon Sister) Divergences: • Moon sisters driven to war with one another. • Istaroth being betrayed by Khaenri'ah (Betrayers of Wind) while Moons were worshipped • Shades meant to prefer being forgotten and unnamed, while Moons are worshipped. I thought seelies were native to Teyvat because they were based on sea slugs, which were thought to represent dragons (Durin, Apep, Melusines, Seelies.) And I assumed they betrayed dragons and chose to side with Celestia & remake the world, becoming the emissaries. Perhaps the shades are created to be like the Moon Sisters -if they existed pre-Celestia- likely for the purpose of replacing the Sisters. Or (and this is more likely) the Moon Sisters were also created by Celestia and/or the Shades, hence why they are similar to their biblically accurate predecessors. (Seelies looking like sea slugs is the only loose end here.) Neuvillette v/o: "Witness" "This realm dismantled was of the Formidable Father himself, but what now reigns here is a cluster of filthy feathers."
@catdownthestreet I may have remembered incorrectly, because I can't find it now. But I thought there was a theory about a 4th Moon Sister based on the triquetra appearing in game with 4 points. But I can't remember where it appeared, now 🥲
idk why, but im still kinda hung up on this theory of mine that the Abyss is like a mini version of the sea of quanta, and the irminsul tree is like a mini version of the imaginary tree, another thing is, if we do get a new element, part of me expects it might be two together. Why? Simple. The "light" element heavily reminds me of the imaginary element from HI3, and HSR. The colors kinda match up and its usually reserved for those who are pretty strong (i.e. the final herrscher forms for the main trio hi3, welt in hsr, and even Durandal from HI3.) meanwhile, the quantum element shares similarities to the abyss as well, not just in color, but partly i think in how it acts. I dont know how true it is as I mainly looked it up using the hi3 wiki which hasn't been maintained very well compared to the other hoyo games, but something interesting is Seele as a herscher is not chosen by the usual person or by the will of honkai, but rather by the sea of quanta (At least i think thats what was said, it's been a while.) and i believe if i remember correctly the will of honkai is basically like a pruning service for the irminsul tree, discarding planets or universes where civilization reached a certain stage, and overcoming something like the honkai is required to be allowed to exist sort of. Perhaps the heavenly principals and the fake sky was to prevent the world from being watched by both the Imaginary tree and sea of quanta, trying to protect them from having something like the honkai come in and destroy the world like many other planets have faced. Maybe thats why the planet is an "Ark." and the sea of quanta being interested in the world is precisely because it is being kept away from it's watch, but also because the imaginary tree may not have this planet as "part of it" if you will. Idk though. I kinda just spitballed nonsense tbh. Well if anyone gets inspired by this, then that's all good i guess.
You got me wondering if Ronova had a humanoid form similar to the Statue of the Omnipresent God, and only after the Xbalanque deal was exposed, did her father punish her by stripping her form and leaving her as that giant eye
Sustainer of Heavenly Principles to Khaenri'ah: Stop, you've violated the law! The Four Shades of the Primordial One during the Cataclysm: Nah, imma do my own thing.
You know, if the eye in Perinheri is not just a broken moon, but Shade of Death herself, just what could Shade of Death see, that would make her "terrified"? Even if Ronova is emotionally unstable, she is a Shade of Death, and ordinary death and destruction should not scare her. The events of Perinheri should have happened during the Archon War, when Dragon King Nibelung was already safely defeated, and Khaenri'ah long established. Did she see Xbalanque fighting the Pyro dragon? Or maybe King Deshret giving in to the lure of Abyssal power?
Imagine being an empire that prides itself for seeing past the lies of the gods and doesn't need no god...only to find out you've been branding yourself after one of the four shining shades of the PRIMORDIAL ONE. Must've been a very awkward moment lmao
Raiden's puppet boss has the same design just electro. I'm not that awake yet, but I could have sworn I saw one of dendro with those six crazy eyes. Maybe there are a lot of eyes for different beings. If red is death and green is life maybe what is purple again?
WOOHOOOOOOO DAWIT POSTED Now I can make dinner in peace Will edit this comment once I'm done watching lolololol Also happy new year everyone! May this be the year Genshin makes more husbandos than waifus :D Edit: Yeah nothing much to add here lol The Natlan archon quest does seem like its not over. What with the paradox being triggered and more Harbingers coming for the pyro gnosis. I think we will be hearing more about Ronova/the moons but not just coz of Nod-Krai: Theres this new natlanese npc stationed at Mondstadt who talks about the creepy sky fragments that are only visible in Natlan, and how its similar to some relics found in the mountainslopes, which is a call back to that one world quest with that little boy who wanted a powerup after striking a meteor fragment...
Does the travail trailer imply that the eternity of teyvat that of the primordial one is maintained, and managed through cyclical nature of teyvat, " in perpetual meantime" implies that the time is looping " of sheltered eternity" implies that maybe cyclicality is needed to sustain teyvat and abyss by resolving and deleting information, interferes with this process? Could the cyclicality be a rule ?
Ronova clearly had a lot to do with the lore, this just came into my head but i think she doesn’t like the heavenly principles and is kind of a rebel, that may explain why she had helped Natlan before by sharing her power with Xbalanque, maybe she did it to Khaenri’ah too. And she also seems like one of the shades that interacted with humans the most, as if they were her entertainment.
Yeah the line about the PO making the Ley Lines for the Abyss is bad, but then again they've also pushed the idea that the PO created the seven elements even though the seven Sovereigns were around before the PO arrived. So I figure these statements must be intended loosely. At least it seems likely that creating the Ley Lines and creating the elements and creating the Irminsul must be happening at the same time and then presumably also creating the fate system (because it's related to Irminsul) and therefore the constellations, and therefore the false sky, and therefore the firmament city where the fight with the Unknown God takes place..... So in the end it all feels pretty tightly connected and this stuff must preceded the invasion of the 2nd because at least some of it was said to be some sort of protection against prospective invasion. As such maybe the statement that the Ley Lines were to use against the Abyss could be like that. Especially as we're now told that Abyss-type of things also exist on other worlds, so they would have been a known threat, at the time the PO recreated the world, just as they still are. In the alternative if we assume the Abyss was around before the 2nd then we have PO taking precautions to seal it off early on, and yet he doesn't destroy it at that time, or defeat it as he does the dragons. Nor does this fit with the idea of the Abyss "invading" Teyvat only after the FK-ed dragon does damage to the Ley Line system.
@Dawit All I'm saying is if the PRIMORDIAL ONE didn't usurp the land from my glorious crackhead dragon king nibelung he wouldnt have nuked teyvat with the abyss XD.
I guess I just don't see the Arlecchino / Crimson Moon link. Arlecchino's eyes have the little x in them and the Crimson Moon is said to look like an actual moon. Ronova looks weird and does not look anything like a moon. They all share the concepts of "red" and "eye".
dawit is talking more about the eyes connected onto arlecchinos clothes. Theres a constant reappearance of 6 eyes in arlecchinos character, from her design to her boss fight, Theres this video made by "My Name For Now" about her design, it'll help you see why people think ronova and arle are connected.
Crimson Moon is just an illusion, the big red eye is true. There is a story about it somewhere, I swear. Arlecchino has a little original Ronova's power. Just like Mavuika. And she has Ronova's curse, but she's escaping really well. Her burst is a memory of a Red Moon - Ronova was involved in events from 500 years. One issue is that Ronova can be herself an illusion too.
lol 😂 imagine you spend your entire existence unreasonably hating gods only to find out you’ve been worshipping one. L, Ratio, bozo. GOD BLESS PHANES AND THE UNITED STATES OF CELESTIA 🔥🔥🔥
Dawit I was doing the new quest in my alt and am confused about something. If The Captain’s platoon was Khaneriah how come they didn’t get the curse of wilderness or curse of immortality?
So you think Nibelung reincarnated in a different body and become the 2nd descender? Along with abyssal power and forbidden knowledge? I have a questions, do you think King Irmin is Nibelung in disguise?
Now i wanna think that the four shades have atleast one element they are associated with. Anemo for time, Hydro for life, Pyro for death, and Geo? for space/void.
The dark corridor, I'm pretty sure it's not just a "rite of passage". I think that's the literal entrance to Khaenri'ah. [SPOILERS FOR OCHKANATLAN AHEAD] See, after all the Night Kingdom talk, in Ochkanatlan we've finally discovered an important thing: even though the Night Kingdom is where the souls of the dead go, and you can access the place "spiritually", it's still very much a physical place where you can access physically. After Cocouik shot down the dragon, this huge hole was left after the blast. By falling into it, nearly a kilometer down we finally reach the Night Kingdom. Just by "walking". This made me connect some points. But first, some relevant characteristics of the Night Kingdom: 1. It is underground 2. It is the physical manifestation of Natlan's Ley Lines 3. When the Abyss wants to invade, it attacks there first. 4. It has associations with "night" You know what all of these remind me of? Khaenri'ah! 1. We know for a fact it is underground 2. We have read that it is located just under Irminsul, at the base of its roots - which are the Ley Lines. 3. We know for a fact that Khaenri'ah was constantly invaded by the Abyss, as if it was the easiest place to invade before Teyvat. In fact, Khaenri'ah was invaded first before the rest of Teyvat during the Cataclysm. 4. The Pale Princess book tells a story of Khaenri'ah, and it describes it as the "Kingdom of the Moonlight Forest", which is located in the "Land of Night". Again the association with night. All that said, I strongly believe Khaeri'ah wasn't just underground, it was *inside Irminsul's Ley Lines*. Honestly, literarily speaking, I wouldn't doubt if the only reason the writers have created Natlan's Night Kingdom was to introduce us to the concept and foreshadow Khaenri'ah, just like how they have done with so many things before. But anyway. The more you think about it, the more it fits. Remember when we found the door to Khaenri'ah in Sumeru, and we got an achievement? "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here". This line is from Dante's Inferno and it's written above the door to Hell. And isn't Hell the realm of the dead, just like the Night Kingdom and the Ley Lines? Then we go back to Perinheri. The book describes the tunnel as if it was a long chimney. So it's (mostly) VERTICAL. And Perinheri could fall, so he was DESCENDING. And what did the people ask him when he reached the door? "Are you DEAD?" And again, it makes sense the Crimson Moon was Ronova. Who else would be watching whoever enters the land of the dead if not her? "Are you dead? So have you seen it?" as in "if you are really dead, you must have seen the ruler of death". I wonder if that's how Khaenri'ahns got their outlanders - they attracted them to Teyvat, who then got killed by the Heavenly Principles, and spawned in Khaenri'ah. Anyway, I digress. So yeah. I'm convinced Khaenri'ah is located in Irminsul's "Night Kingdom". Though I'm still not sure what it means for the people who lived there. Did they all die and get stuck there? That would explain why the Abyss Twin "suddenly" appeared in Khaenri'ah, according to Nahida. But if they are dead, how could they leave? Maybe there are ways for you to be teleported there WITH your physical body, like people in Natlan do through the Primal Fire and the Pilgrimage. Oh, by the way? I'm pretty sure Enkanomiya is ALSO in the Ley Lines. Same thing: deep underground, in a dark place associated with night, etc.
Khaenri’ah people is alive We have many mission mention about they go to other nation to research and doing mission And you can’t put immortal curse to people already dead
I believe both Travelers died in the beginning of the game. There are holes in the story, they got revived later. Abyss portal can be created anywhere. Sinners are responsible for the abyss invasion and making a hole in the sky. Well I think the tunnel Perinheri went it was the red barrier in the sky. The false sky is also underground, it must be a sphere to make sense. It can't just end on the ground. Travelers are cursed by sustainer, we don't know exactly how. Traveler death is similar to Kachina(aura). But by being Descender Traveler defies the rules, all rules even death has nothing to do. They can both leave teyvat at any time, no need to recover their power, because they always have the power only curse is misleading them. If Travelers reunite the world may end. I see similarities to other Honkai games. Well on the topic, but I can't stand there is no info about what happened in Khaenhiah.and how Traveler got revived
its probably just an aesthetic conincidence... otherwise we might as well say paimon is a flying/living mora coin because of the logo on her chest 💁🏻♂️
@agentese1285yes everything except somethings T Repeated boss fights just travelers memory of how they fought. The artifactes are just crystal memories ( memory is the none physical elementel enargy)
Tbh i think arlecchino, raiden, and renvoa are connected wanna know why because look at raidens background very simlar to arlecchino but also raiden when doesnt make sense since via what we seen so far anemo archon connect to the shade of time and so as Makoto and then theres hydro archon egira with the shade of life and pyro archon connected to the shade of death renova but ofc since raiden "copies" what she saw in the cataclysm but its not so far featch that shes also connect to the shade of death idk just randon theory that popped in my head
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia there I knew it, man! I knew it! Now I still follow her, she have her sci channel on youtube and well, and still ramble pretty often about those topics and science news in general. Good one to follow, trust!
I'm going to propose an insane theory: what if the red moon was a moon? There were three moon sisters afterall, and there is no date for their deaths. Occam's razor.
I was looking into some stuff from Honkai and while I know basically nothing of it, I think it's funny that the character that has the stigmata of the herrscher of death has a red-coloured battlesuit... With butterfy motifs on it... Where they use a scythe... With an eye on it. Peculiar. Can't help but wonder what that might have given some ideas for.
Arlecchino, an Emenator of Death
in the more literal sense of the word sure i could see it
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia In all honesty I believe theres a similar type of connection between the two since Arlecchino's fire is the key to the memory erasure vials Dottore made. And as stated indirectly many times in Genshin, memory is life, and memory loss or erasure is the same a death (literally Arlecchino's quest and Sumeru itself). Plus Alrecchino's design, special fire, weapon etc supports that idea
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She also has a scythe, which is used to reap. @@ghoulknight1526
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If I'm not mistaken Genshin is set to have at least 10 years plan into the future. We are now in the 4th year, which makes our arrival in Snezhnaya will mark the 5th year, it will also mark the end of Traveler's journey through Teyvat.
And according to the first story trailer, anything else beyond that is a mystery. I can only assume that the first 5 years is the introduction and set-up, and the last 5 will be where the real exciting shit happen.
Where in the main quests, characters and Archons all over Teyvat meet and work together, secrets revealed, plots got twisted like ankles, all hell break lose, all the typical Avengers Assemble level shit.
So I am genuinely excited for Genshin story progression after the 5 years set-up.
So basically the archon quests are a really big prologue xd
in 15 years we’ll finally see things get sort of serious. sure the cope is real
after 10 years, mavuika will be using self driving Tesla motorcycle
@@JebakanBetmeen LMAOOOOO but he's right
So you are waiting for Genshin part 2.
arlecchino has a scythe too its gotta be death related
Not to mention the flames that burn memories and considers those who consume it as dead and reborn people. Aranara questline also tells us that memories = life.
@@MissusFail so many connections!!
If I'm not mistaken, during the Crimson Moon dynasty is when Khaenri'ah was powering their machinery with Azosite/elemental energy? And it was after during the Eclipse dynasty that they started using Abyssal power instead. I also think it's interesting that Renova said to Mavuika that she wasn't interested in the fate of "this land _anymore_". Seems like the change might not just have been about power supply or efficiency, but kinda sounds like personal beef (and a bad break up lol) was a factor as well. Would be crazy if the curse was actually Renova secretly trying to save her once-worshippers using the only power she has, under the guise of punishment so the PO wouldn't object.
I think the curse was ordered by the heavenly principles themselves because in the 5.3 archon quest (spoilers)
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when asked to abandon one of her rules, ronova says that the curse of immortality must stand and she cannot overrule it, which means she's not allowed to make such decisions on her own (it was also mentioned before that the curse takes effect on a higher level of reality)
@liathelie8805 yea it was a spontaneous crack theory lol
My next guess is they just didn't want to risk a Khaenrian carrying Forbidden Knowledge into the ley lines after death
Altho how that works now with Capitano who knows
I am under impression that machinery was working on Azosite until the last generations of Eclipse dynasty, and Cataclysm quickly followed after they switched to (ab)using Abyssal power for everything.
Some even say that the letter asking to preserve old-style technology was written to the same person that later became regent of Khaenri'ah when the king was "indisposed".
Crimson Moon Dynasty preferred alchemy and combat animals to robots.
Want to point out that Dain's monologue in Travail might not specifically mean that no Gods ever gazed at Khaenri'ah. There are at least 2 other possibilities:
1. Might be metaphorical, as N also told as very similar thing: "Just as prophecies are usually only the future as seen from the perspectives of the gods, could things be happening in hidden corners where the gods' gaze does not fall?" And this turned out to be not literal place where gods didn't see but just a deception put on by Focalors/Furina
2. Technically, all his monologues seem to be from the current time we play, not past (Dragon inally faces his perturbation; The God of Contracts, senselessly slaughtered etc). Which would mean, it's more likely that Khaenri'ah is in a place where no gods gaze RIGHT NOW, which could also just be abyss tbh
So, I would say there's actually a good chance Ronova (or even other shades) did have their eyes on khaenri'ah for some time
This. Indeed there is evidence suggesting that Istaroth was meddling in Khaenri'ah as well. "My Name for Now" has a video on that
There are no gods now, 500 years ago Khaenhiah was full of god's presence and abyss monsters. Six archons and maybe even 2 shades were there
Interestingly enough, the crimson moon was present when the Cataclysm was hitting in Khaenri'ah and there is also this sentence in Dain's introduction that says that "the crimson moon swallows the eclipse/the crimson moon takes revenge on the eclipse (if we look at the CN translation). So the likelihood that the crimson moon present during the crimson moon dynasty was Ronova increases tenfold.
That's honestly terrifying
2:15 yeah when I saw Ronova I was like dear archon it’s similar to Father unless it’s connected to Fathers crimson moon 🤔🤨🧐
the crimson moon connection is interesting cause its realistically how many single big eyes in the sky that are also red exist in teyvat? lmfao
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yes indeed
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia How many moons look like five eyes in a tear in the sky? But how many unaccounted for moons looked like an eye?
What scares me about seeing Ronova's form ingame is the power of the god who controls four different beings on the same scale
Ronova looks scary but she is indeed just a shade upholding the rules
Arlecchino's power coming from renova would explain how she can accidentally make shades of people she kills. Like her childhood friend.
We also learn that Memories & stories can create a soul like guthred in the night kingdom. And arlecchino said cerlvie was a memory ( hopefully i didn't Butcher the name). I guess you can say it's an ability
The Shades can make shades, like the Sin Shades of Enkanomiya with Istaroth’s involvement.
It all leads back to him... The Primordial One, a Progenitor god hailing from Beyond the Stars
But star is fake
-scaramouche
To add more to the Ronova is the Crimson Moon theory, in the book "Fall of the Faded Castle"(if i am not wrong the Faded Castle is obviously Remurian) it is said that
"The dark-robed figure would surely collect on debts owed," which sounds a lot like how Ronova demanded death for her powers being used, the book goes onto speak about how the figure snatched the lives of everyone in the castle and it's master with these lines
"A glowing **red** fog-cloud,
Embraced the castle just like a shroud"
The **blood moon** the towers once blocked reappeared in the sky,
Its **baleful glow** sweeping the land."
However if I am not wrong there was no mention of the Shade of Death on anything related to the fall of Remuria and Remus but I do think Remus in his desperation to save his people might have struck some sort of deal with Ronova but im not sure, just wanted to add input
Also, go read the xbox glider wings, and then dains intro message. If the crimson moon is ronova, dain's brother predicted her cursing the khaenriahns.
I'm so grateful you told me about the Xbox glider description...and personally shocked they would include such heavy lore in a temporary marketing item. Hoyo makes such strange decisions. It legitimately is such a reveal of Dain and Lumine's actions and consequences
@@dear_totheheart Right? We all get access to it now from the stand with mavuika event, but its just like the fake sky lines being from a 1.x event
@@dear_totheheart That's how they keep interest on the game high. They don't tell stuff right away until it's relevant (such as how the false sky wasn't important until now) but drop these hints all over the place so the community gets stirred up into trying to solve the puzzle. Tbh, it's a genius user retention strategy.
@@SirZelean oh I love and appreciate that part!
I meant I was more surprised that they put something so lore critical to Genshin in a partner collab item (that I think might only be available temporarily?). Either way, I really love how much detail they hide basically in plain sight and is available for those who take the time to look/read
@@SirZelean It's like how in Souls game that they'll never explicitly tell you what has happened in the past but leave items with subtle descriptions that eventually pieces everything together perfectly.
The Perinheri corridor part always reminds me of a Netflix german series called "DARK", there was an underground corridor constructed that had a metal door at the end of it and passing through it put you in a different timeline.
Really good series btw I highly recommend
omg dark was so good
@@say1063 YES i havent been able to find a show like that in ages😭
We know Celestia isn't opposed to stealing power/authority from the Natives of Teyvat. Maybe The Crimson Moon held the original authority over death and Ronova stole that power from it.
Okay, so... It might sound crazy but it will make sense: we all know (I hope) all the games are connected. It's about time we notice the bigger connections here. Just as Nibelung might as well be one of the Scions of Long, the Aeon of Permanence (that traveled to numerous worlds), there's one Aeon that we know of that has deep connections with Life/Death and is also the same Aeon who "gifted" the Crimson Moon "curse" to Hoolay and others in HSR. Yaoshi, who also have the same eye symbols on their body, if we're connecting the origin of immortality that only Ronova can give -- but we never heard of Ronova anywhere else, so we might as well believe that her power (and maybe the power of all Shades) come from this very Aeon, the Aeon of Abundance. I'm not saying the Primordial One is also a follower of this Path but what's interesting to me is (just as Amphoreus is a planet where its inhabitants have no knowledge of Aeons but three Paths "converge" there) how Teyvat may "converge" multiple Paths (just think about Rememberance's (Fuli) Eden of Blessed Insight and the whole Ley Line system in Genshin) and Nibelung (Permanence) versus the Shade/Shades (Abundance) could be a thing.
When Mavuika talks about the Abyss being in "worlds beyond Teyvat" and we find mentions of "the black tide" referring to it in old Natlan documents, I remembered immediately how the Honkai is also called "the black tide" a few times in HI3. Also, Amphoreus' trailer referred to the black tide as something similar. It's the Honkai/Abyss/Kami/The Black Tide, and its manifestations are all there. Not only that, but all the Path connections, and the origins of these powers are all at play here.
P.S.: I recommend an extra reading about Phlogiston, Polka Kakamond, and the planet Salsotto (all in HSR).
I agree. I refuse to believe these two universes are not connected when both games seem to suggest it very heavily. We have HSR that is all about other planets, worlds, extended for a whole universe and probably even further with a planet similar to Teyvat (no idea of the worlds beyond their own) and Teyvat covered by fake sky, with beings that are plain said to be visiting other worlds in the past. Isolated planet with „descenders” „own rules” and all. I think we will reach a point when these two game will be officially connected. Not like Genshin characters able to travel to HSR world and vice versa but in terms of mentions. Teyvat will be aware of existence of Astral Express and other worlds while HSR will be aware of existence of Teyvat. The only question is not exactly IF HSR and Genshin are connected but rather what is the distance in space and time between them. Teyvat can be something that don’t exist in Honkai yet or existed somewhere in ancient past. It would be interesting to observe „beginning” or „ending” of Teyvat from Astral Express perspective. Maybe Phanes follows one of the Honkai’s paths, maybe he is an aeon itself or maybe some entity equal to aeons but with some kind of beef with them and complex of creating world where they don’t exists. I’m just curious about „Abyss is still somewhere beyond Teyvat”, is that mean we will have mentions about the Abyss in Honkai?
@angelaziegler1320 I agree with everything you said. As someone who plays all of Hoyo's games it's super interesting to find the connections, the similarities between them, and notice how they know very well what they're doing. The devs themselves said they want to make something like the MCU. The mystery for me it's exactly if Teyvat and Genshin's story is in the past, present or future.
Also, yes. In Honkai Impact 3rd there was a line saying the Honkai has other names in other worlds. One of them was the Abyss (the way other civilization called it in other world - that's on HI3, not Genshin.)
They have the same similarities and it's interesting how everything becomes bigger and the story becomes more about the universe itself than to what's happening only in Teyvat.
@@Propolis00they are in the same universe bro
@@ricxieez When astral express will find some weird shattered moon somewhere far away, things and theories will go crazy I swear
HI YES I'M HERE, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS! Arlecchino already scares the shit out of me, Ronova only made that fear worse lol
Correct me if I’m wrong, it stated that the heavenly principles reshaped the ley lines to counter the abyss but then all mentions later say that they created them. It makes more sense that they reshaped them
It was not reshaping but rather creating them on the basis of spirit veins (i don't remember how it was actually named) as said in the Chenyu Vale lore and by the Lord of the Night.
The whole problem of the Chenyu Vale main world quest was the dysfunction of that system which predates PO and is said to be dangerous to humans. Bc of that Fujin needed that Jade ritual.
And also the way LoN implied that dragons of that time DID not know how to work with ley lines??? Like wtf gurl-
Dragons as beings of the Light realm didn't need the spcific flow of elemental energy within the ley lines. The Light realm is just a chaotic mess of that. But humans can't live in these conditions. So creation of the system where memories and elemental energy will flow within must be created.
@@huasaihun fellow Ashikai theory subscriber spotted. I refuse to believe that the Ley Lines are the true roots of the world, it makes more sense for them to have grown around the spirit veins of old for ease of access to Teyvat
One more thing, Arlecchino hears the voices of the slain in her sleep, the same thing Capitano avoided by not falling asleep. Because he held the souls of the fallen... so does Arlecchino's body or fire also act as a leyline?
Never thought I'd catch one early
never thought id catch u this early but look at us now
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia My ass is slacking at work rn 🤫
I agree with this. Especially when it comes to Arlecchino’s design. It’s too similar to the Shade of Death. Ronova and Arlecchino have a very similar personality too. They both have reservations towards the Heavenly Principles. Really Arlecchino started she would turn against The Tsaritsa if it ever came to it and if she does have connection to Ronova, why isn’t she immortal and if she is why hasn’t her body deteriorated, is she a full blooded Khaenri’an or half blooded but if she’s half blooded does that mean she’s immune to wilderness curse for the half bloods like Kaeya is??? I need answers HOYO!!!!!
I commented on this before, but damn these intros are so random. I love it. Edit: Wait Mavuika said the Abyss was on other worlds, so the primordial one must have known about it so he created the Ley Lines as a precaution for potential Abyss Attacks
wake up babe a new dawit video just dropped
Interesting parallels between the moon sisters and shades;
• Are all women.
• Angel symbolism (eyes, wings, halos.)
• Missing their 4th member (Istaroth & 4th Moon Sister)
Divergences:
• Moon sisters driven to war with one another.
• Istaroth being betrayed by Khaenri'ah (Betrayers of Wind) while Moons were worshipped
• Shades meant to prefer being forgotten and unnamed, while Moons are worshipped.
I thought seelies were native to Teyvat because they were based on sea slugs, which were thought to represent dragons (Durin, Apep, Melusines, Seelies.) And I assumed they betrayed dragons and chose to side with Celestia & remake the world, becoming the emissaries.
Perhaps the shades are created to be like the Moon Sisters -if they existed pre-Celestia- likely for the purpose of replacing the Sisters.
Or (and this is more likely) the Moon Sisters were also created by Celestia and/or the Shades, hence why they are similar to their biblically accurate predecessors. (Seelies looking like sea slugs is the only loose end here.)
Neuvillette v/o: "Witness"
"This realm dismantled was of the Formidable Father himself, but what now reigns here is a cluster of filthy feathers."
4th Moon Sister? I think I'm missing something here
@catdownthestreet I may have remembered incorrectly, because I can't find it now. But I thought there was a theory about a 4th Moon Sister based on the triquetra appearing in game with 4 points. But I can't remember where it appeared, now 🥲
There's an odd red eye in Arlecchino's trailer which is probably Renova.
and she has six eyes on her design, just like ronova
idk why, but im still kinda hung up on this theory of mine that the Abyss is like a mini version of the sea of quanta, and the irminsul tree is like a mini version of the imaginary tree, another thing is, if we do get a new element, part of me expects it might be two together. Why? Simple. The "light" element heavily reminds me of the imaginary element from HI3, and HSR. The colors kinda match up and its usually reserved for those who are pretty strong (i.e. the final herrscher forms for the main trio hi3, welt in hsr, and even Durandal from HI3.) meanwhile, the quantum element shares similarities to the abyss as well, not just in color, but partly i think in how it acts. I dont know how true it is as I mainly looked it up using the hi3 wiki which hasn't been maintained very well compared to the other hoyo games, but something interesting is Seele as a herscher is not chosen by the usual person or by the will of honkai, but rather by the sea of quanta (At least i think thats what was said, it's been a while.) and i believe if i remember correctly the will of honkai is basically like a pruning service for the irminsul tree, discarding planets or universes where civilization reached a certain stage, and overcoming something like the honkai is required to be allowed to exist sort of.
Perhaps the heavenly principals and the fake sky was to prevent the world from being watched by both the Imaginary tree and sea of quanta, trying to protect them from having something like the honkai come in and destroy the world like many other planets have faced. Maybe thats why the planet is an "Ark." and the sea of quanta being interested in the world is precisely because it is being kept away from it's watch, but also because the imaginary tree may not have this planet as "part of it" if you will.
Idk though. I kinda just spitballed nonsense tbh. Well if anyone gets inspired by this, then that's all good i guess.
You got me wondering if Ronova had a humanoid form similar to the Statue of the Omnipresent God, and only after the Xbalanque deal was exposed, did her father punish her by stripping her form and leaving her as that giant eye
Sustainer of Heavenly Principles to Khaenri'ah: Stop, you've violated the law!
The Four Shades of the Primordial One during the Cataclysm: Nah, imma do my own thing.
You know, if the eye in Perinheri is not just a broken moon, but Shade of Death herself, just what could Shade of Death see, that would make her "terrified"? Even if Ronova is emotionally unstable, she is a Shade of Death, and ordinary death and destruction should not scare her.
The events of Perinheri should have happened during the Archon War, when Dragon King Nibelung was already safely defeated, and Khaenri'ah long established.
Did she see Xbalanque fighting the Pyro dragon? Or maybe King Deshret giving in to the lure of Abyssal power?
Whenever i have to start Dawit videos with Oh here we fucking go again, I just know it's about to be a fuck ton of chaos
kiri my goat how we been big dog
@DawitsLookingforEmilia doing great my guy. Happy year 🎊😁🧡
Imagine being an empire that prides itself for seeing past the lies of the gods and doesn't need no god...only to find out you've been branding yourself after one of the four shining shades of the PRIMORDIAL ONE.
Must've been a very awkward moment lmao
I was just in the comments of a channel talking about this
Finally someone did a theory on this
Raiden's puppet boss has the same design just electro. I'm not that awake yet, but I could have sworn I saw one of dendro with those six crazy eyes. Maybe there are a lot of eyes for different beings. If red is death and green is life maybe what is purple again?
if anyone in Genshin is in desperate need of a well-deserved power-nap it's Capitano (if assuming he ill wake up again one day and become playable)
WOOHOOOOOOO DAWIT POSTED
Now I can make dinner in peace
Will edit this comment once I'm done watching lolololol
Also happy new year everyone! May this be the year Genshin makes more husbandos than waifus :D
Edit: Yeah nothing much to add here lol The Natlan archon quest does seem like its not over. What with the paradox being triggered and more Harbingers coming for the pyro gnosis.
I think we will be hearing more about Ronova/the moons but not just coz of Nod-Krai: Theres this new natlanese npc stationed at Mondstadt who talks about the creepy sky fragments that are only visible in Natlan, and how its similar to some relics found in the mountainslopes, which is a call back to that one world quest with that little boy who wanted a powerup after striking a meteor fragment...
The natlan ley lines were probably destroyed in the battle when nibelung came back
Does the travail trailer imply that the eternity of teyvat that of the primordial one is maintained, and managed through cyclical nature of teyvat, " in perpetual meantime" implies that the time is looping " of sheltered eternity" implies that maybe cyclicality is needed to sustain teyvat and abyss by resolving and deleting information, interferes with this process?
Could the cyclicality be a rule ?
Ronova clearly had a lot to do with the lore, this just came into my head but i think she doesn’t like the heavenly principles and is kind of a rebel, that may explain why she had helped Natlan before by sharing her power with Xbalanque, maybe she did it to Khaenri’ah too. And she also seems like one of the shades that interacted with humans the most, as if they were her entertainment.
6:25 Bro what kinda cult-like ritual is this, i would’ve shat myself on the spot 😭
it does sound a bit heavens gate like huh
Woah! I’m finally early to a video!
11:11 are the shades a higher level of being and can therefore see khanriah?
Yeah the line about the PO making the Ley Lines for the Abyss is bad, but then again they've also pushed the idea that the PO created the seven elements even though the seven Sovereigns were around before the PO arrived. So I figure these statements must be intended loosely. At least it seems likely that creating the Ley Lines and creating the elements and creating the Irminsul must be happening at the same time and then presumably also creating the fate system (because it's related to Irminsul) and therefore the constellations, and therefore the false sky, and therefore the firmament city where the fight with the Unknown God takes place.....
So in the end it all feels pretty tightly connected and this stuff must preceded the invasion of the 2nd because at least some of it was said to be some sort of protection against prospective invasion. As such maybe the statement that the Ley Lines were to use against the Abyss could be like that. Especially as we're now told that Abyss-type of things also exist on other worlds, so they would have been a known threat, at the time the PO recreated the world, just as they still are.
In the alternative if we assume the Abyss was around before the 2nd then we have PO taking precautions to seal it off early on, and yet he doesn't destroy it at that time, or defeat it as he does the dragons. Nor does this fit with the idea of the Abyss "invading" Teyvat only after the FK-ed dragon does damage to the Ley Line system.
This is simple to understand if ee assume Crimson Moon is a being and a shade. I don't understand Perinheri story yet. It's had no Sense
Outro detalhe seria o fato de três Deusas da Lua terem morrido e sobrado apenas o cadáver de uma
"Like the 4 pillars of strength, you will continue to safeguard the glory of Khaenri'ah", who are the 4 pillars mentioned in the last 5.3 cutscene?
One of them should be Dain. Others might be The Foul, Rerir of Solnari and someone else. Maybe Anfortas Alberich?
Mmm
Khaenriah have 5 sinners
4 hmm.. 4 shades of phanes?
Idk man. Need more lore about khaenriah
finally someone doing the right questions
As someone who has played Honkai Impact 3rd, I find it rather suspicious how all of the Abyss’s entities have the same color scheme as Sa/Vita…!
Descender blood transfusion experiment
Sleepy tribe, meaty tribe & eclipse tribe
@Dawit All I'm saying is if the PRIMORDIAL ONE didn't usurp the land from my glorious crackhead dragon king nibelung he wouldnt have nuked teyvat with the abyss XD.
I guess I just don't see the Arlecchino / Crimson Moon link. Arlecchino's eyes have the little x in them and the Crimson Moon is said to look like an actual moon. Ronova looks weird and does not look anything like a moon. They all share the concepts of "red" and "eye".
dawit is talking more about the eyes connected onto arlecchinos clothes. Theres a constant reappearance of 6 eyes in arlecchinos character, from her design to her boss fight, Theres this video made by "My Name For Now" about her design, it'll help you see why people think ronova and arle are connected.
Crimson Moon is just an illusion, the big red eye is true. There is a story about it somewhere, I swear. Arlecchino has a little original Ronova's power. Just like Mavuika. And she has Ronova's curse, but she's escaping really well. Her burst is a memory of a Red Moon - Ronova was involved in events from 500 years. One issue is that Ronova can be herself an illusion too.
lol 😂 imagine you spend your entire existence unreasonably hating gods only to find out you’ve been worshipping one. L, Ratio, bozo.
GOD BLESS PHANES AND THE UNITED STATES OF CELESTIA 🔥🔥🔥
Dawit I was doing the new quest in my alt and am confused about something. If The Captain’s platoon was Khaneriah how come they didn’t get the curse of wilderness or curse of immortality?
Childe, an Emenator of The Foul
Arlecchino, an Emenator of Death
Columbina, an Emenator of Life
Venti the Emenator of Time
So you think Nibelung reincarnated in a different body and become the 2nd descender? Along with abyssal power and forbidden knowledge?
I have a questions, do you think King Irmin is Nibelung in disguise?
waiting on Ronova
Does anyone want renaova to be playable in the future? Is it just me?
What background music do you use? I swear I hear Slay The Princess but it's hard to tell lol
The moon was a planet
Now i wanna think that the four shades have atleast one element they are associated with. Anemo for time, Hydro for life, Pyro for death, and Geo? for space/void.
The dark corridor, I'm pretty sure it's not just a "rite of passage". I think that's the literal entrance to Khaenri'ah.
[SPOILERS FOR OCHKANATLAN AHEAD]
See, after all the Night Kingdom talk, in Ochkanatlan we've finally discovered an important thing: even though the Night Kingdom is where the souls of the dead go, and you can access the place "spiritually", it's still very much a physical place where you can access physically. After Cocouik shot down the dragon, this huge hole was left after the blast. By falling into it, nearly a kilometer down we finally reach the Night Kingdom. Just by "walking". This made me connect some points. But first, some relevant characteristics of the Night Kingdom:
1. It is underground
2. It is the physical manifestation of Natlan's Ley Lines
3. When the Abyss wants to invade, it attacks there first.
4. It has associations with "night"
You know what all of these remind me of? Khaenri'ah!
1. We know for a fact it is underground
2. We have read that it is located just under Irminsul, at the base of its roots - which are the Ley Lines.
3. We know for a fact that Khaenri'ah was constantly invaded by the Abyss, as if it was the easiest place to invade before Teyvat. In fact, Khaenri'ah was invaded first before the rest of Teyvat during the Cataclysm.
4. The Pale Princess book tells a story of Khaenri'ah, and it describes it as the "Kingdom of the Moonlight Forest", which is located in the "Land of Night". Again the association with night.
All that said, I strongly believe Khaeri'ah wasn't just underground, it was *inside Irminsul's Ley Lines*. Honestly, literarily speaking, I wouldn't doubt if the only reason the writers have created Natlan's Night Kingdom was to introduce us to the concept and foreshadow Khaenri'ah, just like how they have done with so many things before.
But anyway. The more you think about it, the more it fits. Remember when we found the door to Khaenri'ah in Sumeru, and we got an achievement? "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here". This line is from Dante's Inferno and it's written above the door to Hell. And isn't Hell the realm of the dead, just like the Night Kingdom and the Ley Lines? Then we go back to Perinheri. The book describes the tunnel as if it was a long chimney. So it's (mostly) VERTICAL. And Perinheri could fall, so he was DESCENDING. And what did the people ask him when he reached the door? "Are you DEAD?" And again, it makes sense the Crimson Moon was Ronova. Who else would be watching whoever enters the land of the dead if not her? "Are you dead? So have you seen it?" as in "if you are really dead, you must have seen the ruler of death". I wonder if that's how Khaenri'ahns got their outlanders - they attracted them to Teyvat, who then got killed by the Heavenly Principles, and spawned in Khaenri'ah. Anyway, I digress.
So yeah. I'm convinced Khaenri'ah is located in Irminsul's "Night Kingdom". Though I'm still not sure what it means for the people who lived there. Did they all die and get stuck there? That would explain why the Abyss Twin "suddenly" appeared in Khaenri'ah, according to Nahida. But if they are dead, how could they leave? Maybe there are ways for you to be teleported there WITH your physical body, like people in Natlan do through the Primal Fire and the Pilgrimage.
Oh, by the way? I'm pretty sure Enkanomiya is ALSO in the Ley Lines. Same thing: deep underground, in a dark place associated with night, etc.
Khaenri’ah people is alive
We have many mission mention about they go to other nation to research and doing mission
And you can’t put immortal curse to people already dead
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Yeah, I was spitballing in that part hahaha
I guess you can also watch Aishikai theory about this
I believe both Travelers died in the beginning of the game. There are holes in the story, they got revived later.
Abyss portal can be created anywhere. Sinners are responsible for the abyss invasion and making a hole in the sky. Well I think the tunnel Perinheri went it was the red barrier in the sky. The false sky is also underground, it must be a sphere to make sense. It can't just end on the ground.
Travelers are cursed by sustainer, we don't know exactly how. Traveler death is similar to Kachina(aura). But by being Descender Traveler defies the rules, all rules even death has nothing to do. They can both leave teyvat at any time, no need to recover their power, because they always have the power only curse is misleading them.
If Travelers reunite the world may end. I see similarities to other Honkai games. Well on the topic, but I can't stand there is no info about what happened in Khaenhiah.and how Traveler got revived
A lot of fatui is from khanrehia. Tsaritsa must be somehow related to khanrehia.
its probably just an aesthetic conincidence... otherwise we might as well say paimon is a flying/living mora coin because of the logo on her chest 💁🏻♂️
Eu acredito que ela seja um anjo de Istaroth
Nothing is coincidence in genshin.
Plus that symbol is referred to the Primordials like even neuvillete use it.
@The_original_one Eu acho que tudo no Genshin é canônico. Até a frase do Balcão de Síntese é canônico (descobri em uma missão de Natlan)
@agentese1285yes everything except somethings
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Repeated boss fights just travelers memory of how they fought.
The artifactes are just crystal memories ( memory is the none physical elementel enargy)
Im very confused
If celestia is dormant then how did ronova communicate with mavuika
Spiritual realm
Yippee!
Quantum Gravity :3
yay I'm early
so it would seem
Tbh i think arlecchino, raiden, and renvoa are connected wanna know why because look at raidens background very simlar to arlecchino but also raiden when doesnt make sense since via what we seen so far anemo archon connect to the shade of time and so as Makoto and then theres hydro archon egira with the shade of life and pyro archon connected to the shade of death renova but ofc since raiden "copies" what she saw in the cataclysm but its not so far featch that shes also connect to the shade of death idk just randon theory that popped in my head
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Day 29 of asking for a razor lore video
Seems you follow Sabine Hossenfelder videos, man... yeah, looks like what she would say :D
ahaha i know of her but only cause i watched a debate she was in years ago
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia there I knew it, man! I knew it!
Now I still follow her, she have her sci channel on youtube and well, and still ramble pretty often about those topics and science news in general. Good one to follow, trust!
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are you a brother? subbed
Duh, Arlecchino is a vampire.
they’re dragging the story way too much, i’m losing interest. we’ll get some sort of serious lore in what 10 years 🙄
Guess I'm third xD
i guess you are
I still think that Columbina is somehow related to Ronova.👁👁
I'm going to propose an insane theory: what if the red moon was a moon? There were three moon sisters afterall, and there is no date for their deaths. Occam's razor.
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I was looking into some stuff from Honkai and while I know basically nothing of it, I think it's funny that the character that has the stigmata of the herrscher of death has a red-coloured battlesuit... With butterfy motifs on it... Where they use a scythe... With an eye on it. Peculiar. Can't help but wonder what that might have given some ideas for.
Day 29 of asking for a razor lore video