Can OG Do It AGAIN?! - Grubby Reacts To TRUE SIGHT 2019!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2022
- Watching True Sight 2018 was an absolute blast, so now that we're familiar with OG and their roster, let's watch them face Team Liquid, and see if they can keep their champion title!
Can OG Do It AGAIN?! (Game played on 1-September-2022)
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Watching Grubby Dota 2's journey is really blessing for Dota community. Please Valve dont let this man go.
Really appreciate the compliment mate!
I play LoL, haven't touched warcraft 3 or Dota in ages. Grubbys change to Dota has been amazing. He is a treat.
@@FollowGrubby if every player was like you, then this would be the perfect game
@@teacfowler6824 it already is
@@fifofuko1864 fair enough
Topson change from TI8 to TI9 is massive. U can see the confidence in his bearing and his playstyle.
yeah, TI8 was his first ever tournament. Anyone will be nervous.
From hero to villain
@@dragonbane44 fr man. Those who insulted Topson during TI8 are dumbasses. Imagine getting yelled at at work for not doing it right when it's your first time.
From Topson to Chadson. IMO, Topson and Jerax were MVP in Ti9
He became a Bond Villain.
Roro - the woman in their team is a psychologist, she used to work with CS:GO Astralis team as well.
She usually helps them to control their emotions and overcome bad habits like getting mad or tilted.
Ceb and Jerax were the undeniable mvps of Ti8. For Ti9, without a shadow of a doubt it was Topson. He made liquid his bitch
For ti8 ana and jerax.. for ti9 topson and ana
@@niqueko1414 ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb
@@niqueko1414jeraxx for the win
I main 1/3 but i can tell u having better support is life changing
No matter how good the core if the support is bad its still gonna turn into bad lane real fast
U just cant tell in archon to ancient rank cuz everyone there just play support for role q, xD
I love the ingame cinematics they do for these
Totally agree, it's so unique!
@@FollowGrubby you missed a pretty good one when you were checking on your cat.
People create these animations and dota has a contest for it, right now best voted animation gets 25k$
Ti9 Io was revered as the hidden carry gem that only OG was able to utilize to its Max. They were able to destroy top-tier carry-mid picks at the time. If i remember correctly when they first showcased the IO carry, teams were legit scared of it, that IO was only been picked by OG 6 times (correct me if im wrong) after it. And they went 6-0 afterwards. OG got a decently wide pool with meta defying drafts. They can also play heroes in different roles like their pugna (2, 4, or 3). Like team Liquid, teams were really confused, that eventually led to their loss.
Back in the days were Io carry was the most pick in rank games in 2019
I believe one other team also played it as carry in one game (I think it was Secret) and won. But yeah, OG were the first team to showcase it and they played it the most.
@@ashwinnair3645 i believe secret picked IO carry again and then lost to nigma.
@@ashwinnair3645 Secret played carry Io twice at ti9. Liquid beat them their Io carry.
@@ar.michael8306 Before ti or after? it wasn't most picked before ti9
Glad you finally got into Dota mate. These 2 ti's were so damn epic and massive kudos for the producers of True Sight. They trully did an oustanding job
P.S. you should also check both teams reacting to this True SIght togheter. Very good vibes and very wholesome
A friend of mine in a film class said that they had to watch True Sight for her class. It really is a 10/10 doc
@@MM-vs2et lmao
@@MM-vs2et srsly? so cool!
I really love Grubby’s insight on both of the teams’ dialogues. Feels like learning how to be a better leader.
43:30 I think they were one of the few teams that had a sports psychologist on their team. The same as Astralis. And I truly think it made a huge difference, because they are by far, the best team to come back into the game.
It's also the person you asked about here: 1:16:00
since Liquid is portrayed rather badly for the sake of the storyline, two things to keep in mind: a) apart from w33, this team was (and still is) the team that has played together the longest. they love and trust each other so much. b) they already came from a very stressful lower bracket finals before these games. they did a lower bracket run and therefor played way more games than OG. plus OG looked super dominant that TI. so they came into the finals being exhausted and stressed and have to face a super strong opponent.
just adding that to cut Liquid some slack and give some perspective
Thank you for the perspective!
The lower bracket excuse is lame. Team spirit came from lower bracket so as this team liquid. Both win the TI.
@@chrome450 this exact team liquid won TI7 by making a lower bracket run. that doesn't change the fact it is the harder route to go. kuroky himself said they were exhausted in the finals.
Well to be honest they're not portrayed badly in the film. It's just that what Kuro said back then was really not the right thing to say when in intense situations.
Unfortunately for the Liquid boys, Kuroky chocked the most in these finals ... he would not listen to his teammates at all. GH had good calls, MC had good insights for the picks, Miracle had good instincts and to some degree it felt like w33 was not counted in the decisions that much or let to speak his thoughts. They all we're shut down because Kuroky wanted to make himself heard and he never wanted to listen
I really liked how this showed the difference in team mentalities. For Liquid they had Kuro that took all decisions and carried all the burden of decisions, while for OG they simply trusted each other and went with anyone's decision. It was the same in TI8... someone makes a call and they're all like Ok bro we got your back. Just go for it
sometimes i think about how fun valve makes dota and then i think about how blizzard handled sc2 and i cry a little bit.
Don't worry. Dota players think Valve is also doing an absolute nut job as well.
yeah a good thing that dota escaped blizzard haha
Don't worry, Valve is going the Blizzard Trajectory too rn. Riot is only the one growing and pushing their games and scene consistently.
Last time I checked you still had to pay for heros and other core game mechanics in LoL? There's was never any of that crap in dota, and still isn't. Wouldnt riot be closer to Blizz trajectory?
whats wrong witgh sc2
I found you from reddit, and I must say: you are probably one of the best things happening to this community. Keep up the good work mate.
Your Dota2 content is so good! The way you tackle this game as a 'noob' with your professional eye, competitive mindset and refreshing spirit is a treat for all of us.
Focusing on the positives is so key. There are studies, notably with tennis players practicing serving. Split into two groups - one group was coached on only what they were doing wrong and the group coached on what they were doing well. The positive focus group improved more by an overwhelming amount.
Finally I've been waiting for this for so long thanks grubby
At your service! :D
Would love to see Grubby as a coach for a team some day. While he lacks some Dota knowledge (yet), he understands how important little nuances of what team members say and how they act with each other are. Both teams in this final had awesome players but Ceb was a way better coach than Kuro in this case. That won them the series imo.
I don’t think I could coach like Ceb
@@FollowGrubby you can coach like only Grubby can
@@FollowGrubby Coaching like grubby is probably also still really good :)
“I just need Grubby to coach like 7uckingmad.”
@@carson8074 lmao
these 2 True Sight you streamed are so entertaining to watch. You just started Dota but you're no stranger to ESport competition which makes your input throughout the video so insightful and relatable. I can't wait for the TI10 True Sight so I can watch it myself, then watch Team Spirit react to it, then watch you react to it lmao
Even i that just watch true sihht know what kuroky said is really really bad
He said to mc play like cebb, like why would he said? Why not said just farm ur item more
Kuroky doesnt even respect any of his teammate input at all, like they litterally ask to ban ember several times
I mean weeha pretty much done with ta after that game 2 but kuroky keep saying ta is good
Great content, happy to rewatch True Sight alongside Grubby and even happier he is playing Dota 2 now! Really hope Valve gets him involved somehow at TI
Man, Ceb is such a good leader for their team. I don't think they have anything close to this success without his iron mental and always knowing what to say to shore up his team's mental.
Johan was the carrot, and in a way Sebastian was the stick, in the most positive sense
I absolutely love the insight of someone who has been at that level of competition. I'm enjoying this a lot, and I do not even play dota or moba games!
Caught your dota stream by chance the other week and it has been so refreshing to watch your journey this far. Love this game and love when new people get to experience it for what it can be
The legend watching the legends.
I love the insight and jokes.. pointing out the mistakes in Kuroky's coaching and agree with Ceb motivation of the team gives another look at this masterpiece of a movie.
Thanks Grubby
OG has such an awesome story. N0tail and fly were best friends and long time teammates on that team, but fly left and joined EG since OG wasnt winning. OG banded up this group together almost last minute with crazy talent out of no where in topson and ana, and with mastermind ceb they ended up beating EG and fly. N0tails death stare after the game became an iconic meme, and now OG is the first 2 time TI winners in spectacular fashion
Hey Grubby! I remember watching you play in some SC2 tournaments years ago, and I feel privileged to watch you come and learn this game too! I started Dota 2 cause I watched Day[9] make the swap, and to see another RTS player come in and have fun has been fantastic. Keep it up, keep having fun!
OG was like a protagonist in TI8, and then here they're like the villain that won the war.
kuro was the villain bro
Kuro in 2023 sure is a villain, watching nigma slowly kill carreers of good players is just heart breaking
Kuro is deffinetly a Hall of Famer in Dota. After all these years him saying "You trusted me but I failed you" as a leader of the team is actually so strong and tells a lot when you think about it.
This is where Flopson become Godson. Man is a beast. Oh also ana, the man who buffed fountain. Lmao
What a monster duo.
Watching this TI final's true sight is really hard for me man. Back then, those 2 teams were my favorite, seeing them fighting in the grand final is both a joy and uncomfortable feeling. Your reaction and thoughts however is more interesting than the true sight lmao, have just discovered you just like you've discovered dota :))
I laughed so hard at grub's example: "it's like ohh I broke my leg... Great... I like pain" xD
Just wanted to clarify that OGs draft in the last game was completly wicked.
They were the only team that could play IO as a carry and they basically invented the strategy in the tournament so no team had time to figure out a counter.
They completely reversed the roles, Gyro the typical hardcarry was midlane to create space for the IO who is typically a support to the Gyro
And in the next TI, PSG LGD doing OG thing to set the meta with lycan tiny, but the curse was still there, THE Finals game Curse for PSG LGD. Get rekt by magnus collapse.
@@Redruiza Hmmm tiny lycan was already meta really in high MMR games unlike this IO carry that just appeared from nowhere
@@johnalbeygulle8830 it was in ranked SEA
LGD was stubborn and lost deservedly, they watched collapse magnus completely obliterate lycan tiny from other teams and for some reason tried that crap on their last chance at winning
Yeah io seems good
But they already winning before io got his timing, topson diffu is just way too good and noone really anticipated it
Io still good today but u need ur teamate, so in pubs ......
Been watching your WC3 games and watched your tournament games too. And now you're also playing and DotA 2, the only game I've given like 2/3 of my life (I'm 27 yrs old and haven't played DotA for like 5yrs but I still follow anything about DotA 2). I hope you continue and enjoy your DotA 2 journey.
P.S.
Valve should take care of Grubby or else, I will wish that every toilet in Valves' office gets clogged and floods the bathroom.
What a time to get into DOTA. The magical month of DOTA Esports starts. True Sight dropping soon, Ti just around the corner, the time of the year when the dota players are actually happy. Feels Good Man.
The IO carry was a low MMR start.Ana came up with it in 3k pub games with his friends.Then he brought it to TI.
Grubby, you should probably watch a DOTA short called "The International Archives - The Buyback". It happend in TI by Ana which maybe one of the most underrated plays in that tournament.
ty.. just watched it... Ana is a beast... and he is so calm and handsome... unbelivable dude...
@@FuNoK83 agree. I hope him and topson will elevate T1 team and take the aegis home :)
I think you are the perfect person to point out the differences between two teams, mentally. It was so polarised I felt bad for Liquid. If they had Ceb factor between games, we could have had a legendary series.
Grubby, honestly, for a long time I have been enjoying your WC3 matches and now, it is so good to see you experience the same thing we, DOTA2 (since DOTA1) players were experiencing, to see you feel the same thing we felt during TI´s. PS: looking forward to your ongoing journey through DOTA2 heroes. :)
Love to see grubby in Dota and the amazing content . Feelsgod to have a amazing 'newb' making content like this
Man when I initially watched this true sight I thought kuro was actually pretty awesome with the motivational stuff. But the way you debunked that with reason has opened my eyes to a whole new level of thinking. You are a gem to Dota community man. Love you! ❤️
You’re a wholesome reactor. My sub doesn’t do justice. You need way more. Thank you for your content, and may the subs and likes keep on coming
i still cant believe the level of change, in terms of looks and attitude, between TI8 Topson and TI9 Topson
Topson become Chadson
These videos are edited excellently. 👌
100%
Legit, almost movie like quality
It's really weird I kept watching you even after I left Wc3 for dota and somehow now you're playing dota so much
Love these videos bro 👍🏻
20:58 Exactly what I was thinking. Ceb went on to tell the staff on their smoke break that he made a small mistake, which I think he was referring to that buyback but they were the ones who told Ana not to do so. He already informed the team earlier that he wanted to buyback so he can help with the base defense.
I love kuro, for always saying " thank HIM okay" .
Truesight is incredible from Valve, I literally had no idea Ceb is such a good mentor. I mean I get hyped up to play every time I watch his speeches to Og. I really wanna see how Xiao8 coaches his team,
After Heart of the Swarm you are now stepping back into my life through Dota. How good it is too see the cheerfull Grubby again. :D
I'm so excited to see Grubby react to watching some of the TI games this October! Show Grubby the top .001% of players and the skill they play with!
This new OG is definitely strong but we can’t be sure. TI has a history of strong teams throughout the year and falling short on the big stage. The first iteration of OG with Miracle failed to win in TI after dominating the majors before TI. We can only watch.
OG was predicted to never get into quarters in 2018, look at them now
the thing about TI is that when the Team is favored to win, they are gonna fall short like for example that OG with Miracle and PSG.LGD... the only team to break this curse was the TI9 OG.. It was just the most dominant team ever.. stomping pro teams.
Miracle is the best dota player of all time, he was the first to reach over 9000 mmr xD
@@ejmedallo8098 og wasn't favoured tho.
People were shitting on them saying their previous win was a fluke
The one team who was favoured for winning was wings
From the very beginning they were dominating everyone and everyone watching can tell
Their only loses were throw away games because they decided to play Pudge for God knows what reason
@@BruhMeme85 only a few people were saying they wer a fluke and it was more of a meme already after their strength showcase at the group stage. Nobody doubted them in the main stage. They were the Team to beat with their unique meta (Tide mid, IO carry, etc), left and right BM plays and ofcourse, the fountain diving. TI9 OG exudes pure dominance... and still the best team to have ever ran TI.
grubby i really like the way you explicitly point out the mental game of ceb, makes me appreciate him more
0:51 really like how they are all smiling, what a wholesome finals
You should watch OG's sponsor's (Red Bull) documentary about them. It's titled 'Against The Odds'
Incredible inside story about the players and their journey from zeroes to heroes!
He already watched it a few days ago
@@dragynn9762 twitch vod?
Is it? I wanna watch his reaction. Really enjoy his reaction on true sight ti8
@@dragynn9762 He replied to another comment that he wants to watch it. So what you say can't be true
@@RichyRich2607 I saw him watching it. They will probably post here eventually.
I don’t know why TH-cam started recommending me Grubby but I’m so glad it did. Been playing since 2014 but it’s so nice to see someone so positive discover the joy of starting this game fresh.
Now watch ti7 true sight for context between old liquid and og
Really should have watched the TI7 one first tbh. Makes for a good trilogy
Ti7 the best ti ever
@@goink3368 true
Thank you for giving me an excuse to rewatch these
You are a very positive person and i like your take on Ceb's mindset in coaching.
21:59 best bit. thanks for the reaction my dude
Please watch rest of the true sights as well like TI7 and the crazy Kiev Major finals! These are so fun to watch again plus your commentary adds a new level.
Watching the stream and watching them bust out IO carry on groups a couple of times and the caster reaction. Is a memory I think I cannot forget
you released the video just right after i watch the stream where you watched ti 7 to 9 👌👌👌
Would love to see u reacting to classic dota moments like tnc vs og ti6 or navi vs alliance game 5 ti if u haven't...anyways obsessed w watching ur vids
It's funny how much of a "respect" front Ceb puts up for the documentary, given how toxic he is in every other communication inside and outside the game 😄
It is a mental game
Dota is really a sick mental game, I could relate heavily. When my enemy always use chatwheels, tips and sprays I know I'm getting fucked and lose confidence. Really hard game to be honest
I really love those cinematics for key plays
Seeing my favourite, the OG Gamer Grubbster enjoying my all time favourite game. What a time to be alive
"I'm not playing finals without my chat wheel" omg love it
I love Grubby! i catched him on twitch watching DPC TI Qualifiers! xD
Be your fan for a long time ago. I'm so happy to see you play dota 2.
I like the effort, I assume, Valve put into that video, amazing. Really fun to watch with comms and those little scenes like meepos going throne.
Grubby is so happy, he instantly smiles 1:03:36
Thanks for everything Grubby. I'm sad that HOTS fell from its former glory and play rarely and trying to decide if I want to switch to DOTA for watching/playing. I like seeing your journey. I'm a bit sad that your next recommended video title basically gives away the outcome of the 2019 match, but I guess I shouldn't complain about being spoiled on a 3 year old esports event.
If you're interested, OG Against the Odds redbull video is pretty awesome too, it gives such a cool look on Notails, and also other OG members, history.
This was during my break from dota and i still haven't watched it. It's just soo amazing how much love dota gets. Also w33s Meepo ist just a pleasure to the eye, same for Miracles TA
toobad w33 can only play 2 heroes.. TA and Meepo.. which got him to Finals but.. not enough mate. Thats why they replaced him when they become Nigma.
i was watch Grubby play war3 so many year ago, so good to see him again
Great reaction! You should react to some of the other TI stuff as well, like the The International Archives. Some great stuff in there :)
Really like your journey into dota :)
I get the point with the communication and not giving your opponent too much praise, but OG was on another level this tournament... They dominated the whole TI so I can't blame Kuro for his comments- he was just realistic :)
And they won before and got to the final with him... I think they got their style and go with it
Someone pointed this before but in 1:11:55, Ceb says " they will chase".
Jerax then says "there's no chase" to which Ceb replies "Yes, they're desperate".
It just shows both Ceb and Jerax mental awareness of the game.
Ceb knew Liquid was desperate, and they will try to chase out of desperation to salvage the game. Which Liquid did do.
Meanwhile Jerax knows its over. Even if they chase, they will lose. Which also came true.
I love all the taunting and voice lines, because it's fun. I laugh at this even when I'm the one being taunted, healthy mindset wins more!
E: You know what's cooking! You know what's cooking! You know what's cooking! BOOOM!
u know how get viewers tho, it interesting to watch someone who has little understanding about dota, its whole new experience for me, pls finish rest of the true sights keep going
"what do we do now"
"I mean, we can eat"
Miracle is too pure man, gotta love the guy
Now watch Ti7, two of the most gifted and brilliant players at their best, Miracle and Gh. Wizards!
Grubby is the best thing that happened to this community in a long time. Wholesome af! Thx for giving our favourite hate-love a try mate!
Jerax's hindsight on that last game is *chef's kiss*
Watched both True Sight it was released and saw finals online on two TIs. Og is a legendary team. Played old dota and dota 2 I can say dota 2 improves the game.
When Kuro said “him first, and unity.” I thought of Dave chappelle Rick James skit. UNITYYYY
21:38 this is actually what i need to hear grubby. thank you
Hey Grubby,
you should check out the TI3 finals. Its on of the most insane series ever played in dota. Its also interesting to see how much the game has changed since then.
Watching this reminds me of how godly OG during this TI, Topson trashing everybody on mid and Ana playing io carry.
Trivia: he and his friends played this io on 3k mmr pub, and what's mind blowing is he actually pulled it off on TI main stage.
ana really have full faith on the team and really believe that he and the team could pull it off...amazingly they instinctly knew how to enable his carry IO's gameplay
I never watched true sight and had no plan to do so. But here I am watching with you sir. :D
Now, you have to react to both Teams "reacting" this True Sight... Man, looks like grown up highschool friends watching their pubs. Fcking Awesome!
I saw it but audio quality was worse of the video because its a roomy pickup of the audio since u listen to the players. not worth rewatch for me on stream tbh
Amazing video grande grubby! Try gyrocopter is one of the most fun and strong hero
Dota + Grubby = Instant Like
I wish that Grubby watched TI7 True Sight before this so he'd have a better insight on how this Team Liquid works. Kuroky basically is like a father to the 4 guys of the team (who can be mischievous players), with their manager Mo like the mother lol. Kuro had to carry the team at a mental and emotional standpoint, so it's not surprising that he got tilted after game 1.
I feel that Liquid misses Matu on situations like this. He's one less emotional guy for Kuro to check on.
TI8 is Ana's redemption after being viewed as an underperformer before TI, while TI9 is where Topson really popped off. OG is a whole lot better in TI9 than they were at TI8.
Yeah TI8 was Ana's redemption but it was the Kiev Major that brought him to the legend status. The Buyback was the moment he etched his name in the Dota 2 Hall of Fame.
I watch a match grubby vs happy. The commentators described grubby as a legend, the series was awesome. Really i didn't know grubby was a top 5 with an out of the box play style.
that diffusal gyro was such a clutch move
i love your purity of editing past certain swear words lol
Damn, liquids reactions to losing always gets to me, I feel bad for all of them
Liquid was a top team then, but kurro rly didnt believe that he could beat OG and his mentality transferred to the team, not to mention ANNAGOD was an effin meta breaker with that IO carry... Liquid rly came in as favourites into this match, they had the most amazing tournament, but Ceb is a freaking mental monster, EPIC FINAL!!!
this is really funny, i never expected this from grubby. i used to play a lot of HOTS, and that's where I got to know grubby. It was a nice period between 2015-2018 as fellow blizzard franchise fan, I played a lot of games, got to diamond tier and also watched a lot of pro matches. It was always a pleasure seeing grubby casting games. And then that happened. Blizzard abandoned HOTS. So I reluctantly went to the original, Dota (Well it's Dota 2 now). Somehow I always knew I was going back to dota. It was inevitable. I played it a bit during school days, along with WC3. I liked the game, but didn't like the crowd. I played the original dota to have fun and do silly things, but people just wanna tryhard and win. When HOTS came I thought it was perfect. But nothing good lasts forever. Gotta grow up, and play a real MOBA. Thank you HOTS and thank you grubby for being there. I made a lot of good friends on HOTS. Though the moba honeymoon is over, I still have fond memories of HOTS.
I just wish Dota has something like Li Ming and greymane. They have diablo now, in Marci. But it took valve years to make sth similar. Still, dota is a masterpiece.
Take my word, Grubby will be sitting among them in 3/4 years