You know guys I have got to say that I am surprised that you are saying that you don't like Edward furlong because he plays a Nazi in America history x as to be honest he is only playing a role as he is an actor and also the film is absolutely brilliant and it's a shame that he went downhill so be bad as person and so anyway that's the end of my rant lol 🙂
Not liking Edward Furlong because he played a Nazi is maybe the most snowflakey thing I have ever heard. It's like the people attacking actors who play baddies in movies because they can't distinguish fiction and reality. What a joke.
In terms of sheer movie entertainment value this is one of the most perfect rollercoaster rides of a movie. I've watched this one like I don't know how many times in my life and The Terminator maybe 5 times - it may be more gritty etc but in my mind T2 is infinitely more enjoyable and rewatchable - I'll never get bored of it. I totally wanted to be John Connor as a kid watching this - hang with a badass Terminator and go around blowing stuff up? sign me up! A pioneering classic, for good and bad, it's the best Terminator, no question in my mind; when I think Terminator, it's this,
21:28 No. It was a factory and everything was off, but Kyle Reese started turning on as much equipment as possible because in Kyles words, "The noises and movements of the machines will make it harder for the terminator to track us." I'm pretty sure that was the line.
All right, fun fact and a theory... First the fun fact. On top of using Linda's twin for the confrontation, they also used her twin in the gas station, when Sarah Connor was fixing The Terminator. The mirror, was not a mirror. The mirror was an empty frame which had a reverse version of their set, a dummy version of Arnie, and they had both Linda and her twin in the shot mirroring each other's movements. My theory is that when they broke the time loop, that they fractured the future into hundreds of possible futures... And then all of the versions of the future that had terminators, had the ability to travel back in time. Because the loop was broken, the machines from their particular future had no idea that whatever they did in the past was basically irrelevant, so each individual future just kept trying... Which lead to the inconsistency of Terminator 3 and up. I think you guys are right, that it was a bootstrap paradox, but what happens if you actually managed to break one? What damage can one cause to the space-time continuum/multiverse/fabric of reality if you actually could interrupt the cycle? Well, there you go... Pontificate
The writers of time travel stories have choices to make about how they handle the paradox they’ve created. I like how the first two movies set up a closed loop of causation: The time travelers are part of their own past. Trying to alter the timeline is the very thing that makes the future they were trying to change. Had Skynet never sent a Terminator to 1984 to kill John Connor’s mother he would never have been conceived and there wouldn’t be a leader of the future resistance. In fact there would be no Skynet because Dr. Miles Dyson wouldn’t have that future tech to reverse engineer. Of course none of that makes sense. Time travel is impossible, so the story is also impossible. But at least it’s internally consistent. T3 and after introduce alternate timelines. The multiverse. To me, not as interesting because there aren’t any stakes. Just infinite do overs and Mulligans. Judgement Day didn’t happen in 1997? Meh, it just got pushed back a few years. Skynet never created? No worries, there’s another AI called Legion! John Connor was killed by a Terminator right after T2? No problemo! There’s ANOTHER savior of humanity who takes his place!
Fun fact: This was the first of four movies made by James Cameron that were the most expensive movie ever made up to that point (T2, True Lies, Titanic, Avatar.)
@@gnrjordani wonder why they didnt move the Judgement Day date to a later date. From the moment they casted Furlong, who looked 13 or 14, why not have the film take place in 1998, and judgement day in 2001 or 2002?
18:24 Robert Patrick did an interview and they brought up his T2 running scenes and that was actually him running. Prior to acting, his was a pro sprinter and marathon runner. RP actually said there was one scene where he kept catching up to the car and he had to slow down to make the scene work.
The thing is .. there was a 7 year gap between the movies..so initially when I first watched it as a 15 year old , I thought it was far superior to the original.. but after the years past and the dust settled, the original is in my opinion a far better film, darker, grittier . Tech noir scene , is a masterpiece..
I'm in the same boat as you are. I saw Terminator 2 at the drive-in when I was 10. It was the best movie ever...BUT I hadn't seen the first one. It was some time in the mid 90s when I saw T1. At first, I laughed at the 80s hair and 80s cheese....but the thriller aspect of it and the intensity kept me coming back to it. The acting is just as good as in T2. People say Robert Patrick killed it in T2...but Arnold killed it in T1 and Arnold caused more carnage. People say Sarah was badass in T2. She was...but T1 had Reese to fill that need for good guy badassery. John Connor in T2 was equivalent to Sarah in T1, the tag along.
Terminator has a much darker, tense, desperate atmosphere than T2. I love it for that. There was next to no chance to stop the Terminator, all they could so was run. Kyles line about how it doesn’t feel pain, or remorse, and absolutely will not stop ever is chilling. Very similar to Alien vs Aliens. Sure the sequels have cool effects and are more “fun”, but the originals have that horror element that can’t be beat.
I saw the first Terminator right before the 2nd one came out. I was about five or six years old and it scared me so bad that I had nightmares. I did not want to see T2, but my dad wanted to see it. I loved it. Thought it was so much better than T1. But then, one summer, I discovered T1 around 12 years old and I was so fascinated by the world and the characters and the time travel paradox, and to this day, T1 is my favorite. It is such a great sci-fi film, and it crosses all these different genres. And I love the 80s, gritty aesthetic. T2 is fun and cool looking, but T1 is something really special to me.
T2 was such a good movie that I never realized that I never realized it doesn't make any sense for John Conner to still be alive afterwards until now and I still think it's a great movie
These movies don't work on "Back to the Future" logic. It seems that whenever something has been sent from the future to the past, it remains embedded in the past, even if the exact future it came from is erased or overwritten. So even if the future Kyle Reese came from is no longer "there", the effects of him impregnating Sarah (i.e., John's existence) is not affected.
@@Cenindo yes and the BTTF thing of objects changing and people disappearing was more of a story-telling device. I dont think physics allows for these 'disappearences'. Someone arrived in the past from a certain history. Even if his timeline is erased it wont mean the person just fades into thin air with all memories of that person
I had to stop at the 6:48 to answer your question about why you remember the number T101. In the arcade version and then the subsequent Sega version of the Terminator 2 video game, the Arnold Terminator is designated as a "T101" rather than a T800. I know this because I played this game to death!!!!!!
Yeah in T3 Arnold is self-referencing him as a T-101. Yet Cameron has explained that the Terminators before the T-1000s were T-800s and T-600 (the 600- series with rubber skin) So that was an error in the T3 script as well
@@ThomasDrish No, he knows precisely how much force to push a trigger, open a door, grab John Connor without crushing his bones - he also knows how to apply 67 ft lbs to a starter motor bolt.
The Terminator wouldn't have been able to just carry the frozen T-1000 over to the molten steel. A computer operates most efficiently at 50 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel becomes brittle at minus 123 degrees. Liquid nitrogen is between minus 320 and 346 degrees below zero. It's possible the ground was still cold enough to freeze the T-800's feet enough to break apart as he walked. Temperature transfers quickly through metal. To counterbalance the weight of the T-1000 while carrying, it would have to be held against the chest. Not only might the T-800's hands break while carrying the T-1000, but it could cause the T-800's electronic systems to get so cold as to become inoperable. I don't see how throwing the T-1000 in the molten steel at that time would have been an option. The moment the T-1000 would be warm enough to pick up safely could likely be the same temperature at which he could move again. They also wouldn't have known the molten steel would start spilling into the ground nearby.
6:56 The Conan movies were '82 and '84. Terminator was also 84. Arnie looked smaller in T2 because roids had been outlawed, in contrast, Arnie was fresh from his 1981 Olympia win in 1981.
Model 101 is the Arnie Skin. The t800 is the skeleton which is why he upgrades in the series while still being Arnold, it's the skeleton and robotics changing not the skin.
4:16 When I first saw this movie, I thought Skynet just sent two terminators after John. Also, it wasn't revealed the T-1000 was an advanced terminator until this hallway scene and T-1000 gets shot.
Apparently, Billy idol was the first choice as the T1000. However, he was in a motorcycle accident six weeks before principal photography, and Robert Patrick was then brought on board.
Haha, and what a fine choice. He had just been in Die Hard 2 (I actually dig this part alot, tho not more than the first) and the absolutely great EQUALIZER 2000 xDDD Lol I just watched the last mentioned, think it was Patrick's first film even? It was goofy fun post-apoc film honestly lol. So good trashhh
It’s the t-800 with the human model 101. Model 101 is the terminator that looks like Arnie, with other models looking like other people, for example in the dream sequence from the first movie where a terminator infiltrated the resistance hideout, it was Franco Columbia, a different model t-800
Been binge watching these videos and generally enjoying them but the swing and miss of details in all of these are like listening to some dudes who saw the movies at some point in their lives and make an episode about it. Minor gripe sure.
I MUCH preferred the first Terminator and Alien as i preferred the hopeless horror of them. Far less OTT action, explosions and and people that fight back. When i have a nightmare, it's always about being relentlessly chased by someone or something that i can't defend myself from. Never had a nightmare about being surrounded by jacked up gun totting acttion heroes.
Terminator 2 and Aliens are among the Top 3 sequels ever made. T2 is arguably the best action film ever made. To me, Aliens is the best sci-fi ever made.
One part of this movie that has bug me and no one seam to mention is the fact that they did not destroy everything. Arnie broken arm is still stuck in the gears. Sure the human did not see it get broken off, but could see his damage arm.
the liquid metal man is pure genius !! ... especially when he runs instead of turning his feet into wheels !! ....i like the part when he "magically" gets new clothes, when the old clothes get ruined !!....it takes acting to a whole new level
The horror/thriller-action-comedy arc is very common in a lot of series. Take leathal weapon for example. It start with a depress cop thinking of suecide.. and by the third movie its basically a comedy
The "T-101" description comes from Terminator 2: Infiltrator, a novel by S. M. Stirling that was released in 2001 prior to Terminator 3. That book was the closest thing to a "canon" sequel to Terminator 2 before Terminator 3 was released. I suspect the filmmakers used this novel as a reference source for Terminator 3, hence why it ended up being a line in the movie. Definitely a pet peeve of mine because there is no such thing as a T-101.
9:07 That's a lever action shotgun, but the hand hoop is specifically designed to reload with one hand. You can't do it with a normal lever action hoop because it'll crush you fingers or fly off your hand and cause an accidental discharge.... But they do sell lever actions with the appropriate hand hoop, shotguns and rifles.... in the US. Yes, I'm from the US.
Beasts of a different nature. I always found it extremely hard to decide which is better than the other, because for me the general entertainment value of the both is pretty much even. But their delivery is different for them being different style films: dark and gritty 80s action/sci-fi with horror elements VS. early 90s big production hollywood action/sci-fi and perfection in that style (and undoubtedly perfection in that effect-sense, beating alot of more modern films in props, effects etc.) . And whereas I'd say The Terminator is certainly aimed more purely for the adults only, T2 is like mix suitable for adults/teenagers - however I wouldn't go as far as calling T2 teenage/family-movie I've heard elsewhere by some of TH-cam reviewers. But, the first one is definitely more gritty in vision. They both deliver and are absolutely entertainment level 5/5 films for me. If I absolutely had to pick, as of late I've leaned more towards T1. There's no nostalgia bonus for one over the other, as I've watched both to death when I was teenager.
The question is what happened to the arm T2 arnie lost in the factory. They never went to get it to throw in with the arm and chip from the original terminator. Didn't really completely eliminate the possibility of Skynet from happening
T101 is the skeleton. T800 series is the sort of trim level. Also, the abyss is worth naming here as a sort of dry run to this movie On top of that, for the liquid terminator, there is actually more practical effect than digital. For example in the sceen where arnie and T1000 first meet, that is all practical effects. They made speciall liquid metal squids, The terminator was actually intentionally driving to the steel mill. They didn´t get there on accident.
9:45 If any of you have every played GTA V or GTA San Andreas, Los Angeles is a very dry area. They're in constant drought mode, so yeah those aqueducts are accurate depictions, in the 80's, 90's, and today.
After destroying the both Terminators the timeline should have stayed the same cause there was no way cyberdyne didn't back up their data. Meaning after that is alternative timeline.
Coolest not so much kid but young adult teen, was always marty Mcfly for me. Yeah granted he was 24 - 25 playing a what 17 year old but still. I was 3 when back to the future came out so I'm a product of the 80's, also David from flight of the navigator. Shawn aston in the Goonies.
TERMINATOR 2 is generally thought of as the better film, because its very obvious that they put...10 times the money, into it, also because of the great computer advances (inevitably connected with the extra expense) also the cinematography is so much noticebly better as well with no film grain. BUT does all this mean it is any better a film for it? NO because being a sequel, we lose the element of surprise, this time we can't have the reveals of the 1st film, because it's been done already, the same applies to ALIENS
6:27 Just for some contest, these Pikachu tails, one tail is from the base form of Pichu. I think the yellow with brown base is Pichu... or the yellow with black tip is Rhichu??? I never liked pokemon. Also, The T-101 is referred to in Terminator 3.... I think. Now I'm not sure. I hope my Terminator box set is an original box set and not an effed with "remastered" box set.
One thing I thought was really stupid though I can't remember what film, was the way the grenade lit up when activated. When twisted before being thrown a neon ring lit right up. Considering the action took place at night I think this was really poor design.
@17:12 … he technically doesn’t put an end to the technology, and I’m gonna make a point here that nobody else seems to ever really pick up when I mention.. and does give a reason for the 3rd film (as bad as that one is it does make sense that it would exist) At the end of the first film the t800 loses his hand which has the chip, which then allows them to create the technology. In T2 yes Dyson explodes himself and the chip which should have put an end to it all BUT. BUT!! At the end of T2 when the t800 and T1000 are fighting, the T800 loses his arm AGAIN.. the arm that has the chip in it, which would again give them the ability to create the technology again, which opens up for the third film,, which also makes everything that they went through in the 2nd film pointless So not so happy ending as you said 😂 They never make point of or put focus on the fact that he loses his arm again and whenever I explain this to people they’re just like 🤷🏻♂️ I dunno how nobody picks up on that
There wouldn’t be a chip in the arm ! I always obsessed as a kid that they could make a 3rd because of the other arm but in the novel they retrieved it anyway and threw it in the steel, but they didn’t need the arm to make a sequel they could come up with anything any they did
@@NoName-eo2mv there was a chip in the hand.. and yea they would have made up any reason to make more movies and they never give that as a reason for the third one, but it’s the same thing that happens in the first movie.. the hand has the chip.. they used it to make the technology, and then he loses his hands again in the 2nd one.. why wouldn’t there be a chip in that one too??
@@jimjones_koolaid I’ve watched the films for years and that’s news to me! The chip was in his head which you see in the deleted scene, think you’ve got this one wrong
Not liking Edward Furlong because he played a Nazi is maybe the most snowflakey thing I have ever heard. It's like the people attacking actors who play baddies in movies because they can't distinguish fiction and reality. What a joke.
I believe more in "linear time travel" theory. You can change "really small things" by going back into the future, but big events that happen in the future...you just can't stop them. So...the whole "we've stopped "Judgment Day" " at the end of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day"...never believed that! You've only postponed it a bit. That's what I liked about "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines". You also have the "parallel timelines universe" theory. Yeah...then the possibillities are endless...but also endlessly confusing! I do like the "multi-verse" Marvel Spider-Man and Dr. Strange movies, but they are in the end quite confusing...
Just re-watched all four and the definitive awnser is t2 better than t1. Alien is better than aliens. T2 builds on the Lore Aliens just carry’s it on, nothing new is learned.
10 points to whoever is the first to spot the T1000 editing mistake haha - Anthony
You always forget about the second T800 arm stuck in the gears.
You know guys I have got to say that I am surprised that you are saying that you don't like Edward furlong because he plays a Nazi in America history x as to be honest he is only playing a role as he is an actor and also the film is absolutely brilliant and it's a shame that he went downhill so be bad as person and so anyway that's the end of my rant lol 🙂
When you showed the t1000 with the pic of a kid, it was from Wayne world. 22:23 Edit for time stamp.
What's with the unnecessary blurring...?
Not liking Edward Furlong because he played a Nazi is maybe the most snowflakey thing I have ever heard. It's like the people attacking actors who play baddies in movies because they can't distinguish fiction and reality. What a joke.
hacking the ATM is forshadowing of JC already beating the machines
In terms of sheer movie entertainment value this is one of the most perfect rollercoaster rides of a movie. I've watched this one like I don't know how many times in my life and The Terminator maybe 5 times - it may be more gritty etc but in my mind T2 is infinitely more enjoyable and rewatchable - I'll never get bored of it. I totally wanted to be John Connor as a kid watching this - hang with a badass Terminator and go around blowing stuff up? sign me up!
A pioneering classic, for good and bad, it's the best Terminator, no question in my mind; when I think Terminator, it's this,
21:28 No. It was a factory and everything was off, but Kyle Reese started turning on as much equipment as possible because in Kyles words, "The noises and movements of the machines will make it harder for the terminator to track us." I'm pretty sure that was the line.
Precisely
Yes, it was nighttime, so that's why the place was empty. It was not closed down
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 I never said it was closed down.
@@JubeiKibagamiFez No no, I think the guys in the video said that
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 Ohhh. Okay.
All right, fun fact and a theory... First the fun fact. On top of using Linda's twin for the confrontation, they also used her twin in the gas station, when Sarah Connor was fixing The Terminator. The mirror, was not a mirror. The mirror was an empty frame which had a reverse version of their set, a dummy version of Arnie, and they had both Linda and her twin in the shot mirroring each other's movements.
My theory is that when they broke the time loop, that they fractured the future into hundreds of possible futures... And then all of the versions of the future that had terminators, had the ability to travel back in time. Because the loop was broken, the machines from their particular future had no idea that whatever they did in the past was basically irrelevant, so each individual future just kept trying... Which lead to the inconsistency of Terminator 3 and up. I think you guys are right, that it was a bootstrap paradox, but what happens if you actually managed to break one? What damage can one cause to the space-time continuum/multiverse/fabric of reality if you actually could interrupt the cycle?
Well, there you go... Pontificate
The writers of time travel stories have choices to make about how they handle the paradox they’ve created. I like how the first two movies set up a closed loop of causation: The time travelers are part of their own past. Trying to alter the timeline is the very thing that makes the future they were trying to change. Had Skynet never sent a Terminator to 1984 to kill John Connor’s mother he would never have been conceived and there wouldn’t be a leader of the future resistance. In fact there would be no Skynet because Dr. Miles Dyson wouldn’t have that future tech to reverse engineer.
Of course none of that makes sense. Time travel is impossible, so the story is also impossible. But at least it’s internally consistent.
T3 and after introduce alternate timelines. The multiverse. To me, not as interesting because there aren’t any stakes. Just infinite do overs and Mulligans. Judgement Day didn’t happen in 1997? Meh, it just got pushed back a few years. Skynet never created? No worries, there’s another AI called Legion! John Connor was killed by a Terminator right after T2? No problemo! There’s ANOTHER savior of humanity who takes his place!
Fun fact: This was the first of four movies made by James Cameron that were the most expensive movie ever made up to that point (T2, True Lies, Titanic, Avatar.)
Iirc, it's a T-800 model 101. Other models would have the same T-800 endoskeleton but with a different organic exterior.
We see one in Kyle’s flashback dream in T1.
@@russellharrell2747thank you. Was about to mention this.
Isn't it the other way round...?
101 is the one that looks like Arnie.
If there are Terminators that look like OJ Simpson it would be 102 (or 1-0-anything)
That would be the "psycho killer" model in OJ's case @@matthewnicholas6365
1984 John Connor is conceived
1991 John Connor is a teenager.
Um…I don’t think time travel is the main problem here.
T2 took place in 1995. Yes the movie came out in 1991. Hope that helps!
@@gnrjordani wonder why they didnt move the Judgement Day date to a later date. From the moment they casted Furlong, who looked 13 or 14, why not have the film take place in 1998, and judgement day in 2001 or 2002?
18:24 Robert Patrick did an interview and they brought up his T2 running scenes and that was actually him running. Prior to acting, his was a pro sprinter and marathon runner. RP actually said there was one scene where he kept catching up to the car and he had to slow down to make the scene work.
The thing is .. there was a 7 year gap between the movies..so initially when I first watched it as a 15 year old , I thought it was far superior to the original..
but after the years past and the dust settled, the original is in my opinion a far better film, darker, grittier .
Tech noir scene , is a masterpiece..
I'm in the same boat as you are. I saw Terminator 2 at the drive-in when I was 10. It was the best movie ever...BUT I hadn't seen the first one. It was some time in the mid 90s when I saw T1. At first, I laughed at the 80s hair and 80s cheese....but the thriller aspect of it and the intensity kept me coming back to it. The acting is just as good as in T2. People say Robert Patrick killed it in T2...but Arnold killed it in T1 and Arnold caused more carnage. People say Sarah was badass in T2. She was...but T1 had Reese to fill that need for good guy badassery. John Connor in T2 was equivalent to Sarah in T1, the tag along.
They need to return to the horror roots.
Terminator has a much darker, tense, desperate atmosphere than T2. I love it for that. There was next to no chance to stop the Terminator, all they could so was run. Kyles line about how it doesn’t feel pain, or remorse, and absolutely will not stop ever is chilling.
Very similar to Alien vs Aliens. Sure the sequels have cool effects and are more “fun”, but the originals have that horror element that can’t be beat.
@@HumanHamCubeUnfortunately I don’t they will ever recapture the horror of the original.
I saw the first Terminator right before the 2nd one came out. I was about five or six years old and it scared me so bad that I had nightmares. I did not want to see T2, but my dad wanted to see it. I loved it. Thought it was so much better than T1. But then, one summer, I discovered T1 around 12 years old and I was so fascinated by the world and the characters and the time travel paradox, and to this day, T1 is my favorite. It is such a great sci-fi film, and it crosses all these different genres. And I love the 80s, gritty aesthetic. T2 is fun and cool looking, but T1 is something really special to me.
T2 was such a good movie that I never realized that I never realized it doesn't make any sense for John Conner to still be alive afterwards until now and I still think it's a great movie
These movies don't work on "Back to the Future" logic. It seems that whenever something has been sent from the future to the past, it remains embedded in the past, even if the exact future it came from is erased or overwritten. So even if the future Kyle Reese came from is no longer "there", the effects of him impregnating Sarah (i.e., John's existence) is not affected.
@@Cenindo yes and the BTTF thing of objects changing and people disappearing was more of a story-telling device. I dont think physics allows for these 'disappearences'. Someone arrived in the past from a certain history. Even if his timeline is erased it wont mean the person just fades into thin air with all memories of that person
I had to stop at the 6:48 to answer your question about why you remember the number T101. In the arcade version and then the subsequent Sega version of the Terminator 2 video game, the Arnold Terminator is designated as a "T101" rather than a T800. I know this because I played this game to death!!!!!!
Yeah in T3 Arnold is self-referencing him as a T-101. Yet Cameron has explained that the Terminators before the T-1000s were T-800s and T-600 (the 600- series with rubber skin)
So that was an error in the T3 script as well
My biggest pet peeve with this movie was when the terminator asks for a torque wrench to tighten the starter motor. Dude, you ARE a torque wrench!
😂 right
Maybe he wasn’t programmed to realize he was a torque wrench. Sometimes, I like to play along. 😂
Or what bothers me is he says he has detailed files of human anatomy but doesn’t know why humans cry.
@@ThomasDrish No, he knows precisely how much force to push a trigger, open a door, grab John Connor without crushing his bones - he also knows how to apply 67 ft lbs to a starter motor bolt.
@@Mr.Honest247 It isn't necessary to know why a human cries to kill them, though.
Anyone else believe that Sonya blade was inspired by Sarah in T2? I believe it came out like a year later
I think she's more based on Cynthia Rothrock.
What's up with the random ass blurred our censor bars? They aren't covering anything you can't show
Came to ask the same... It's pointless and annoying.
Makes this video kind of unwatchable! Whats going on?
@@Petty-Cash Pretty sure they're to get around copyright claims?
The Terminator wouldn't have been able to just carry the frozen T-1000 over to the molten steel. A computer operates most efficiently at 50 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel becomes brittle at minus 123 degrees. Liquid nitrogen is between minus 320 and 346 degrees below zero. It's possible the ground was still cold enough to freeze the T-800's feet enough to break apart as he walked. Temperature transfers quickly through metal. To counterbalance the weight of the T-1000 while carrying, it would have to be held against the chest. Not only might the T-800's hands break while carrying the T-1000, but it could cause the T-800's electronic systems to get so cold as to become inoperable. I don't see how throwing the T-1000 in the molten steel at that time would have been an option. The moment the T-1000 would be warm enough to pick up safely could likely be the same temperature at which he could move again. They also wouldn't have known the molten steel would start spilling into the ground nearby.
6:56 The Conan movies were '82 and '84. Terminator was also 84. Arnie looked smaller in T2 because roids had been outlawed, in contrast, Arnie was fresh from his 1981 Olympia win in 1981.
Model 101 is the Arnie Skin. The t800 is the skeleton which is why he upgrades in the series while still being Arnold, it's the skeleton and robotics changing not the skin.
T800 cyberdyne systems model 101 is the quote
4:16 When I first saw this movie, I thought Skynet just sent two terminators after John. Also, it wasn't revealed the T-1000 was an advanced terminator until this hallway scene and T-1000 gets shot.
Apparently, Billy idol was the first choice as the T1000. However, he was in a motorcycle accident six weeks before principal photography, and Robert Patrick was then brought on board.
Haha, and what a fine choice. He had just been in Die Hard 2 (I actually dig this part alot, tho not more than the first) and the absolutely great EQUALIZER 2000 xDDD Lol I just watched the last mentioned, think it was Patrick's first film even? It was goofy fun post-apoc film honestly lol. So good trashhh
The smiling scene is not in the theatrical cut.
Same with the T1000 glitching out
It’s the t-800 with the human model 101. Model 101 is the terminator that looks like Arnie, with other models looking like other people, for example in the dream sequence from the first movie where a terminator infiltrated the resistance hideout, it was Franco Columbia, a different model t-800
Been binge watching these videos and generally enjoying them but the swing and miss of details in all of these are like listening to some dudes who saw the movies at some point in their lives and make an episode about it.
Minor gripe sure.
I MUCH preferred the first Terminator and Alien as i preferred the hopeless horror of them. Far less OTT action, explosions and and people that fight back.
When i have a nightmare, it's always about being relentlessly chased by someone or something that i can't defend myself from.
Never had a nightmare about being surrounded by jacked up gun totting acttion heroes.
Terminator 2 and Aliens are among the Top 3 sequels ever made. T2 is arguably the best action film ever made. To me, Aliens is the best sci-fi ever made.
One part of this movie that has bug me and no one seam to mention is the fact that they did not destroy everything. Arnie broken arm is still stuck in the gears. Sure the human did not see it get broken off, but could see his damage arm.
His arm got crushed in that giant gear, even if they were able to get it out I doubt they could do anything with it.
One of the best sequels but The best Sequel ever. I'm sorry that'll always be Empire. Imo
Weird. I was looking for this video after watching one and three and couldn’t find it until it popped up in my recommended now.
the liquid metal man is pure genius !! ... especially when he runs instead of turning his feet into wheels !! ....i like the part when he "magically" gets new clothes, when the old clothes get ruined !!....it takes acting to a whole new level
to use the word "ironic" in the wrong context is the actual definition of irony.
Watch your T1 video earlier and got upset I had to wait a week for T2. Then I noticed the videos were a year old and all available 🙌🏻
No, but it's a fantastic sequel, that expand the story, lore and concept.
The horror/thriller-action-comedy arc is very common in a lot of series.
Take leathal weapon for example.
It start with a depress cop thinking of suecide.. and by the third movie its basically a comedy
The "T-101" description comes from Terminator 2: Infiltrator, a novel by S. M. Stirling that was released in 2001 prior to Terminator 3. That book was the closest thing to a "canon" sequel to Terminator 2 before Terminator 3 was released. I suspect the filmmakers used this novel as a reference source for Terminator 3, hence why it ended up being a line in the movie. Definitely a pet peeve of mine because there is no such thing as a T-101.
Did you just say Arnie doesn’t take his shirt off ??? You JUST said the intro was the best of any hero ever
Empire strikes back > a new hope
I believe T800 is the series of the endoskeleton. Model 101 is a T800 with an Arnold skin on it.
9:07 That's a lever action shotgun, but the hand hoop is specifically designed to reload with one hand. You can't do it with a normal lever action hoop because it'll crush you fingers or fly off your hand and cause an accidental discharge.... But they do sell lever actions with the appropriate hand hoop, shotguns and rifles.... in the US. Yes, I'm from the US.
Beasts of a different nature. I always found it extremely hard to decide which is better than the other, because for me the general entertainment value of the both is pretty much even. But their delivery is different for them being different style films: dark and gritty 80s action/sci-fi with horror elements VS. early 90s big production hollywood action/sci-fi and perfection in that style (and undoubtedly perfection in that effect-sense, beating alot of more modern films in props, effects etc.) . And whereas I'd say The Terminator is certainly aimed more purely for the adults only, T2 is like mix suitable for adults/teenagers - however I wouldn't go as far as calling T2 teenage/family-movie I've heard elsewhere by some of TH-cam reviewers. But, the first one is definitely more gritty in vision. They both deliver and are absolutely entertainment level 5/5 films for me. If I absolutely had to pick, as of late I've leaned more towards T1. There's no nostalgia bonus for one over the other, as I've watched both to death when I was teenager.
It's The L.A. RIVER! NOT an aquaduct! And yes, it has water. Check out REPO MAN, Plenty of water.
Crazy you mentioned the goal keeper. He went to my high school and i always saw that in the credits. I don’t even follow soccer. Bay high!
Reese in the first film mentions the terminator being "cyberdyne systems 101". That might be what you're remembering
The question is what happened to the arm T2 arnie lost in the factory. They never went to get it to throw in with the arm and chip from the original terminator. Didn't really completely eliminate the possibility of Skynet from happening
It’s the Terminator 800 series, model 101.
they had to retake the dirt bike chase scene because Robert Patrick was able to catch it running full tilt while holding his breath
T101 is the skeleton. T800 series is the sort of trim level.
Also, the abyss is worth naming here as a sort of dry run to this movie
On top of that, for the liquid terminator, there is actually more practical effect than digital. For example in the sceen where arnie and T1000 first meet, that is all practical effects. They made speciall liquid metal squids,
The terminator was actually intentionally driving to the steel mill. They didn´t get there on accident.
Cyberdyne Sytems Model 101, 800 series.
"The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy."
The full trailer gives away the twist that Arnold was the good Terminator.
14:52 But they're still alive. T-800 is literally following John's orders, "No more killing." That doesn't mean maiming or injuring.
I think they missed the scene where he literally scans for casualties, and finding none, smiles triumphantly.
Kyle Reese tells you he's the model 101 in the first Terminator
I think arnie quotes that he is "system model 101" so 800 is the hardware and 101 is the OS
9:45 If any of you have every played GTA V or GTA San Andreas, Los Angeles is a very dry area. They're in constant drought mode, so yeah those aqueducts are accurate depictions, in the 80's, 90's, and today.
Arnie didn't shave his eyebrows in the first one. They used prosthetics to cover them.
After destroying the both Terminators the timeline should have stayed the same cause there was no way cyberdyne didn't back up their data. Meaning after that is alternative timeline.
2 different genres that are excellent in their own regards
The terminator complied with the order not to kill, the bullets and grenades did the killing 😮
Aliens, T2, and Empire Strikes Back
Coolest not so much kid but young adult teen, was always marty Mcfly for me. Yeah granted he was 24 - 25 playing a what 17 year old but still. I was 3 when back to the future came out so I'm a product of the 80's, also David from flight of the navigator. Shawn aston in the Goonies.
Cyberdyne systems model 101 later in the movie right? In reference to something else tho
He's a machine.
Hank from Breaking bad is in the terminator TV show
The aqueduct is there for the occasional times there is heavy rain. it fills during storms.
Yeah, we have one right next to our house, it's bone dry most of the year. But that _one_ time it really pours, you're glad it's there.
TERMINATOR 2 is generally thought of as the better film, because its very obvious that they put...10 times the money, into it, also because of the great computer advances (inevitably connected with the extra expense) also the cinematography is so much noticebly better as well with no film grain.
BUT does all this mean it is any better a film for it? NO because being a sequel, we lose the element of surprise, this time we can't have the reveals of the 1st film, because it's been done already, the same applies to ALIENS
wow, had no idea Linda had a real life twin!
6:27 Just for some contest, these Pikachu tails, one tail is from the base form of Pichu. I think the yellow with brown base is Pichu... or the yellow with black tip is Rhichu??? I never liked pokemon.
Also, The T-101 is referred to in Terminator 3.... I think. Now I'm not sure. I hope my Terminator box set is an original box set and not an effed with "remastered" box set.
2:15 you called him that in the previous video 😂
T800. Model :101
Either the first skin for the T800 or the hundred and first 😅
The answer is .. NO. The sequel is a kiddie film compared to the original.
Nonsense
"Goldberg killing people" please do the Universal Soldier films to actually see that moment
Wild to confess I'm 50 andI've never seen any of the Godfather Franchise.
But i have been told by some that Godfather 2 was better than original.
I was on the fence about subscribing, then you throw a Scott Steiner promo in.
I watched it on opening weekend, T-101 was a mistake by Nintendo due to memory limitations of the cartridge
Answer: Hell yeah!!! Terminator 2: Judgment Day is AWESOME!!!
Now I want Edward Furlong to make a satire 'Anti Disney' channel in character
9:50 I think it's the same one in Blue Thunder.
The amount of details these guys get wrong about this movie…
Both The Terminator and T2 are masterpieces but I prefer T2 amazing perfect sequel
Uuuuummmmmm, Shrek 2 is the BEST sequel of all time thank you very much!
One thing I thought was really stupid though I can't remember what film, was the way the grenade lit up when activated. When twisted before being thrown a neon ring lit right up. Considering the action took place at night I think this was really poor design.
Too easy. No. No it is not.
Whys the video blurred out??
@17:12 … he technically doesn’t put an end to the technology, and I’m gonna make a point here that nobody else seems to ever really pick up when I mention.. and does give a reason for the 3rd film (as bad as that one is it does make sense that it would exist)
At the end of the first film the t800 loses his hand which has the chip, which then allows them to create the technology. In T2 yes Dyson explodes himself and the chip which should have put an end to it all BUT. BUT!!
At the end of T2 when the t800 and T1000 are fighting, the T800 loses his arm AGAIN.. the arm that has the chip in it, which would again give them the ability to create the technology again, which opens up for the third film,, which also makes everything that they went through in the 2nd film pointless
So not so happy ending as you said 😂
They never make point of or put focus on the fact that he loses his arm again and whenever I explain this to people they’re just like 🤷🏻♂️ I dunno how nobody picks up on that
There wouldn’t be a chip in the arm ! I always obsessed as a kid that they could make a 3rd because of the other arm but in the novel they retrieved it anyway and threw it in the steel, but they didn’t need the arm to make a sequel they could come up with anything any they did
@@NoName-eo2mv there was a chip in the hand.. and yea they would have made up any reason to make more movies and they never give that as a reason for the third one, but it’s the same thing that happens in the first movie.. the hand has the chip.. they used it to make the technology, and then he loses his hands again in the 2nd one.. why wouldn’t there be a chip in that one too??
@@jimjones_koolaid I’ve watched the films for years and that’s news to me! The chip was in his head which you see in the deleted scene, think you’ve got this one wrong
@@NoName-eo2mv I thought that was the whole point of then having the hand in that lockup thing in the lab
They just parodied it again in the newest disputable me lol
Its the T-800 Model 101
The 101 is the 800 with skin.
Cyberdyne systems model 101... Arnie says this, he is a model 101, with the T800 skin... Arnies face is the T800...
Shit man... I do this all the time... its t'other way round...
@@garrybartlett6853 So that was in T2. I thought it was T3 when he said that.
@@JubeiKibagamiFez except I got it wrong... model 101 is Arnie Face... T800/T850 is the Chassis...
The trailer for T2 ruined the plot twist. They also ruined Genysis by giving away the Connor twist.
And so do T3 - showed Judgement Day is inevitable in the the ads.
I don't watch ads anymore at all
"T-800 model 101."
Yes.
Not liking Edward Furlong because he played a Nazi is maybe the most snowflakey thing I have ever heard. It's like the people attacking actors who play baddies in movies because they can't distinguish fiction and reality. What a joke.
I love baddies... oh, wait you mean "bad guys." Well, as a performance criminal, I guess I can't complain about those either.
Didn't James Cameron used to work in a steel mill?
Of course it is
It is the best action movie ever made.
Um, The Road Warrior was better than Mad Max also.
Yes. Saved you 26 minutes
Yes, overall it was better. Had better graphics and story line.
John? I thought gambit from xmen was the coolest lol
I believe more in "linear time travel" theory. You can change "really small things" by going back into the future, but big events that happen in the future...you just can't stop them.
So...the whole "we've stopped "Judgment Day" " at the end of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day"...never believed that!
You've only postponed it a bit. That's what I liked about "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines".
You also have the "parallel timelines universe" theory. Yeah...then the possibillities are endless...but also endlessly confusing!
I do like the "multi-verse" Marvel Spider-Man and Dr. Strange movies, but they are in the end quite confusing...
Just re-watched all four and the definitive awnser is t2 better than t1. Alien is better than aliens. T2 builds on the Lore Aliens just carry’s it on, nothing new is learned.