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- I'm from Greece and I notised that many people wonder what language do the deathless army speak and what exactly they are saying.Well they are 100% Greek and I translated them on this video for whoever wants to know.Enjoy.
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Btw, this is the *best* Greek I ever heard being spoken in a foreign media production.
Beats about every version of fake/half-assed Greek heard in any Hollywood movie. It sounds authentically Greek, as in spoken by an actual Greek speaker.
All of Hollywood couldn't find a proper adviser on the language and the makers of the video game did?
It's surreal :P
I feel you, man... They have SO MANY Russian and Ukrainian immigrants who speak authentic Russian there in USA, and every time I hear Russian in every movie or video game I want to bash my head in...
Βάλανε τον Γερμενή να κάνει σπικάζ... λολ...
so what did they say when the army pass the corridor
Chicago has a full Hungarian monologue with super botched Hungarian language in it spoken with russian accent and slavic music playing under it.🙄 Hungarian isn't even a slavic language. 😒
And it's from Immortal Greek Soldiers
"You abandoned your previous lives to stand against the source's enemies! Until the sun dies!"
Cut to the next game...
Which is funny because thats basically only a year later canonically
Mad Foreshadowing There 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@mrmoney9822 I'm pretty sure the reboot trilogy takes place the same year they were released in real life, so 2013 game in 2013, this one in 2015 and Shadow in 2018
gotta say, was surpised that they actually see lara in the second "moment" when they march and lara climbs around them, always tought this to be one "in plain sight" , them not knowing she is there. Yet, the subs clearly shoe them saying "there she is"..."behind us" etc.
Yeah, but its not like they are doing something about it. They should've probably put there a little evasion scene.
They knew she was there, they knew she would've been resilient to survive this long, so getting her out in the open in ambush would be better. So they left her be
The devs never intended the Deathless' speech to be translated so they added random dialogue to make it seem they're giving orders or something.
According to a document found in the city the last surviving mongol invader had the same issue as he snuck behind a deathless one but the deathless one sensed him approaching and almost killed the survivor
@@Necemous Maybe there’s only one but don’t believe him.
Thank you man! I always wanted to know what they were saying, especially because I am starting to learn Greek myself. Cheers man :D
Johnny Colon it will be hard i am warning you hahaha cheers
the coolest ancient army ever. that was a good surprise to me to fight them, a little like the Floods parasites in Halo. i think they can make greek language very cool sounding too.
Me too.
@@sirdemetrius2173 huh
@@darassylmoniakam I like them too
@@darassylmoniakam I like the Deathless ones too, is that simple enough?
@@sirdemetrius2173 ok, i know you're greek. amazing how an american studio can make ancient byzantine warriors fascinating and cool
These guys are so badass. They’re basically the last true remnants of the Roman Empire. Such a shame Lara killed them all. It would have been so cool and different if Lara had made herself immortal instead of destroying the Source.
Honestly you could make a game based on these guys alone. Tomb Raider has always been the master of bringing forth awesome concepts like Ageless Self-Resurrecting warriors but never really doing anything with them afterwards.
How did lara killed them and they are called the deathless ones?
@@mostafaargoun672 She destroyed the source.
Also for game mechanics purposes, you CAN kill them. Would be unfair to fight an enemy you cannot kill.
@@mostafaargoun672 when you kill them they turn into fire but they will resurrect. One mongol survivor says how he killed a deathless one and then the fire that remained start crakling louder and louder. They only truly died at the end when the source was destroyed
i do notthink this would be exciting if Lara would become like them
The Byzantium Empire at that.
Hearing the translations you really gotta admire the *Deathless Soldiers* loyalty and determination to protect there home even if technically no citizens are living in it at the end of the day they where just guys doing there job shame they all had to die but in the end they earned there rest along with *Jacob*
thanks man....I was searching for this subs and translations for about two year.
:)) cheers mate
Me to
just bought the game much cheaper thx to black friday. Btw when i first saw the deathless army i was amazed. incredible voice and has a incredible level design. i was a bit scared of that language cuz i wasa terrified of their voices and footstepts. best sound design
It's funny how about 2000 years ago, Greek was the common tongue of the ancient world.
That's an exaggeration no it wasn't
No. Greek is the lingua franca in the Eastern Roman empire when it was still united with Western Rome, and official language of the remaining Eastern half of the empire after Greek supplanted Latin way later. And no, you forgot the speakers of Old Chinese, Sankrit in the Indic regions, the Iranian languages of the Persian etc. It is not a common tongue at all.
So anyways, I remember playing this with my mom and aunt, and at that part, the language sounded familiar!
It was Greek,we were surprised coz we are Greek ;)
Idk how were you surprised. It was hinted for the whole game that this is about a greek colony established by religious exiles. Thats why there is learning greek from murals mechanic. I dont know greek but I knew it was greek from the start and athanatoi also sounds like a greek word (and I think these guys are athanatoi). Even in siberian wilderness Lara points out how sofias armor "wouldnt be out of place in byzantium"
it's cool to compare the Greek soldiers of rise of the tomb raider and the oni soldiers in tomb raider 2013
Who do you think would win? The Deathless Knights or the Oni? I think the first.
i was so thrilled when i heard them speaking Greek for the first time haha
Kai egw
I've never thought Greek is so badass
Who could win? A Elite Byzantine Knights, armed til the teeth, greek fire, blessed with a powerful magical source or...
A raider with an bow and alpinism equipment?
I just charged at them with an Auto Shotgun. It's amazing both against bears and ancient immortal armies.
TR Logic. I think a single Deathless One can solo Lara.
@@sirdemetrius2173 not only deathless one even That TR 2013 Oni’s leader can solo her 💀
@@yuvraj748 Every supernatural entity would kill her lmao
@@yuvraj748basically any Oni soldier (without archers) can solo Lara. Oni were elite samurai overall. As far as I know Lara is not a samurai or any swordsman to 1v1 against an elite samurai warrior.
0:20 Ekeí. Échei ton Átlanta.
0:42 Eínai ston toícho.
0:48 Toxótes, aganiste!
1:08 Ekeí eínai!
1:32 Skótose tin tóra!
1:42 Stamáta tin!
I finished Rise of the tomb raider 5 times, but I didn't understand what's immortal soldiers saying until now
Thanks for sub man 👍👍...
The big greek dudes with helberds are pretty scary looking standing close to lara. If the regular greek dudes look twice as big as her, then the big boys are 3 times her size atleast.
The axemen are more menacing, since they are faster. The archers less so, the swordsmen will jumpscare you if not looking because of their jump attack and the halberdiers are easily noticed, also you can't see behind the shield.
Best moment in this game series. I like the voice modifier. Great upload.
These dialogues sound insanely phantasmagorical.
the biggest question on my mind from this video is: where the hell did the deathless come from, during the atlas scenario?? you see shadows of them, sneaking around like ninjas and killing trinity soldiers, when in reality they're nothing like that, they're more like a brute force army that doesn't hide but charges in. yet throughout the entire time you're trying to bring down the statue, the place is empty like nobody is there. all of a sudden, theres like 50 of them? where did they come from? that large gate wall face they're on, is that a passage connecting to kitezh?? because i thought the deathless were hidden from the world, unless this was a separate legion of deathless just stuck down there, living in their greek fire factory, completely unconnected to the deathless in kitezh?? idk it just seemed really odd to me to run into them there. they were so close to the surface there, that if they wanted to, they could just go up and take out the remnants
According to the story the deatless one was came from prophet's follower. Some of them could train them how to kill silently
maybe they indeed use unseen secret passages which only goes through the underground places (Trinity opened the Archives) which never goes to the surface. wether they'rein the archives (they would use them to ambush the Trinity guys), and some other connected to the Kitez lost city. we can assume also that their left massacres and their sudden appearance in the Atlas place is more like for a suspenseful effect in the game story.
@@giannilyanicks1718 I thought the reason the deathless never came out into the world was because they were trapped. But it may be that they're not even interested. The archives probably had tunnels connected to kitezh. I think the game explanation for why you can't go to kitezh from the archives is because there were too many deathless and everything was getting destroyed while lara escaped. Even though you can still return there later, the story acts like you're not supposed to go back
@@StopFlaggingVideos i always though the Archives were scelled, until Trinity opened it, otherwie, happy new year
There was likely only a few soldiers in the beginning murdering Trinity. They also can climb as well as Lara in their full armor. They likely gathered and broke in with full force knowing there were many mercenaries but it was too late, it was only Lara that stole the Atlas. It was probably a way that leads to the main cathedral when they wiped the floor with the Trinity mercs and went to inspect the explosions in the Greek fire production facility.
Huh. I didn't even know it was Greek they were speaking. It actually reminded me of Elvish in The Lord Of The Rings...
it sounds like italian for me, ironic since byzantines were like the successors of romans, which were themselves ancient italians
@@giannilyanicks1718 theres no such thing as byzantines or their empire.Their romans byzantines was a made up word by german historian in early 20th century i believe.If you would go back in time you no one in the eastern roman empire would call themselves byzantines
Shit... just finished Tomb Raider 2013 and I must say the Deathless Ones freak me out more than the Oni
Facts. They're far more terrifying than those Stormguards
Well as a Greek they seem less terrifying but more badass, since the Stormguards are mysterious Japanese samurai that scream like demons. And are described as demons. They also scared me shitless in the first time I saw them.
2:44 *Καταστρέψτε την*
Πάρ' την κάτω, χαχαχα!
Και είναι καλοί ομηλιτές, παίζει και καλύτεροι από κάθε πολιτικό που πάτησε πόδι στην Ελλάδα. Φαντάσου να γυρνούσαν πίσω εδώ.
I love their voices.
Those archers in the first clip, though. Is it even possible to be killed by them? Do they only hit you if you stop moving?
George Hamilton no if you're too slow they'll kill you, they killed me once or twice on the hardest difficulty since i missed a jump and slowed down.
If you stop moving you can be killed. Or if you are too close to the Greek fire barrels.
Yeah, it’s only if you are slow to climb or if you stop moving completely.
man thank you. I was woundering what are they saying and you answered that question for me. Thank you soo much
Well, this is certainly MUCH better than the "pig Greek" we hear from the captured prisoner and the mourners at the graves. In those instances, they absolutely butchered it. Why they could find voice actors for the Deathless Ones who spoke Greek, but not for the other NPCs, I have no idea.
This game also seems to have very poor understanding of Greek and Byzantine culture, as well as the Eastern Orthodox Church. We see a shrine to the Apostles in the Baba Yaga DLC, yet the saints in the twelve icons (some of which repeat) are clearly not the Apostles. And we see well known icons, such as the Epitaphios and the Transfiguration, cut up and pasted together to make original icons of the Prophet. Things like this hurt the immersion for someone who is well-versed in these things.
Probably because
deathless ones=original greeks
Prisoners=bruh greeks
@@ShiftyDrums werent the deathless the romans
It is more because the remnant have also absorb ex soviet prisoners that cannot spell Greek well, also due to their isolation from the world it is possible that the language spoken would deviate from the majority. Finally, the game requires the characters to spell English well, however it is much harder to find professional that speak both language fluently.
@@theblade1251 They're Greek/Byzantine
So, are you some kind of expert or something?
Is it modern Greek, lol? It should be Middle Greek in it's semi-archaic form, i suppose. Anyway, love these ancient zombies, also as Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων.
It is middle greek but there is not much different between this and modern...at least not in those specific frases
Modern Greek is pretty similar to middle Greek, especially in the phonology
Byzantine Pride! 💖🇬🇷
I love it when they do this stuff in tomb raider, makes it cooler.
These guys were the fearless Varangian Guards of the Eastern Roman Empire. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not as far as i can tell.
They are dresses as fairly elite Clibanari or Skoutatoi.. Given the Prophet flight from the Empire in the X century nordic style in the Empire would have been widespread. (as Nordic mercenaries were more and more common)
But you can still see some more Romaioi influence.
Generally Romaioi Helmets were more open in design..only design issue i have is their shields.. it's not Roman of any period. Romaioi shield were either round or ovals. That is a more latin design. But still immortal guardian and such. =D
@@andrews.5212 The Eastern Romans used Kite shields during the 900s-1400s. From the 1200s knightly shields were in use. They are dressed with chestplates from Medieval knights, helmets from Ancient Greece (enclosed Corinthian looking helmet) and Roman (Galea looking helmet but with nose guard). They also have vambraces and greaves (which are Greco-Roman). They also wear mail armor and enclosed mail coifs. They do have some sort of pteruges (Greco-Roman protective waistband).
They were a former Roman tagma called the Athanatoi, which existed in history. They were nowhere close to Skutatoi, they outclass them in equipment. Klibanophoroi and Kataphraktoi are close, but still wear lamellar instead of plate armor (unless its 15th century, but they were 10th century).
One of their statues depicts swordsmen with a round shield and no dual swords.
@@sirdemetrius2173 When playing the game you see dead soldiers of the Prophets army wearing accurate byzantine armor and attire throughout Syria and Kitezh. It's explained in the game that once Kitezh was settled and as time went by, its people and culture evolved separately and became more and more advanced and surpassed that of the Eastern Empire(one of the documents specifically mentions that). Most of the architecture is deeply Byzantine in style but also has old a lot of roman classical style, especially the statues. Likewise their armor and clothing evolved, that's why you get such a combination.
Thank you for posting this!
Εμενα παντως αυτες οι φωνες τους με ανατριχιαζουν. Αντε να συγκεντρωθω να παιξω μετα. χαχα
I always wondered if they were using medieval greek (since the people speaking it are tecnically undead romaioi) or the devs just went with modern greek..
was a pity that none of the remnants npc was using either russian or greek since those were their languages.
btw "Toxotai" is my favourite word for archers. So i was happy when i recognized "toxotes" xD
Well, they ain't undead just immortal paladins from the Roman Empire.
Lore-wise they would speak Medieval Greek but they added modern Greek.
The difference between Medieval/Byzantine Greek and Modern Greek wouldn't have been noticed by 99% of players I suspect. But it would've been a nice touch
@@jemert96 I wish the people in geothermal valley spoke modern greek and russian, but the athanatoi would speak Medieval/ Byzantine greek
Who are the Russian and Greek "remnants" you are talking about?
i learned that modern and medieval greek were very similar to each other
I loved this section and the oni one in tomb raider they just felt so awesome just a shame they didn't manage to set sail to face trinity since lara stopped them lol
They did. Those Stormguards are no match for Trinity and the Trinity are no match for the Deathless Ones
i wish i would play the firtst , i underestimate it
They would just massacre them even more.
Nice. I was actually wondering if they made up words, or that derived from greek or other latin languages
Greek is not the daughter-language of Latin but the Hellenic "ancestor"
They really ran side to side as languages, as they are derived from the indoeuropeans, and they influenced themselves over the years with the hellenic influence in the roman empire, christianity and whatnot. Anyway the effect in game is really good and makes for a good atmosphere
Just for the info, the Greeks do not believe the Indoeuropean theory.Arthur Evans found 2 types of older writtings here (Grammiki A and B, in Crete).
In contrary with the Global scientist community we have strong archaeo-"logical" evidence of how the Hellenic language evolved in our land thousands of years before Christ.I agree about the game and the atmosphere, 2 and a half days i was stuck on my chair:P
Could somebody do this for the Oni Stormguard?
i am searching everywere for it hut i cant find it...
The only bit I know is when the Oni off Whitman, one of them says. “I will have his head!”.
that's a shame. he doesn't even got more thumbs.
@@thedancinglion2088 "Sono kuni wo moratta." Yeah. It's the only one I know too.
why still no translation video about the stormguards quotes in the episode of Tomb raider reboot
So is no one going to do this for the Oni Stormguard in Tomb Raider 2013 when they speak Japanese?
you can tell they didnt expect anyone to notice or translate due to the nonsense of the commands or background talking
Wow, thanks!
Κάνε και άλλα τέτοια βίντεο...
These duds are nothing compared to the warriors from Tomb Rider (2013). I was 8 when the game came out, I swear I’d go pale whenever I had to fight them lmao
Those Storm guards would get slaughter by these Deathless ones. Period.
Undead Samurai vs immortal Byzantium soldiers. Sounds like an interesting fight if it were to happen.
Thank you!!!
Hello!
I don't have the thin lane you walk across. I play it on PC and it's very annoying that I can't get any further with the game because of it.
This is the greatest game ever made.
These dudes sound like shield-back knight from god of war
This part might be the part I can't beat.... those Trinity Soldiers are a pain in my ass... I can't defeat them.
They aren't Trinity.
They remind me of the Elites in Halo lol. #DistortedVoices
More like the brutes
A bit random, but this video came up in connection to my search - how does one correctly pronounce "athanatoi"?
a-thá-na-te, but you pronounce 'a' like y-a-s not like g-a-me
@@user-rt1ru8fr3n Really appreciate the response! What about the accented "á" and the "te" at the end? What would they sound like?
@@TyrannosavageRekt I'm sorry I forgot, the Greek language has a tone system so you emphasize the pronunciation on the second 'a', something like a-th-aa-na-te. The 'a' in Greek is always pronounced like in the word a-lpha and because the last part is '-οι' I 've replaced it with an e in the English version.
@@TyrannosavageRekt At last the 'e' is pronounced like in the word 'me' and not like in the word 'egg'. I would advise you to listen the pronunciation on Google Translate but, on Greek, Google has the most unrealistic robotic voice, no one talks like that.
As a Greek translator, I have to inform you that your translation is not accurate
😱
But he is greek!How can he understand the language less?😱
Quality so good. Sadly PS5 port of ROTR, looks bad.
incredIBLIES
These are Romans who speak Greek, not Latin. XD
Muito obrigado por traduzir oque eles falavam, sempre quis saber 👍
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E eles falavam "mongol" e não "Latim", não é mesmo?
Eles falam grego.
É grego, os mongóis são os responsáveis pelas torres de cerco no lado de fora da cidade
É grego, os mongóis são os responsáveis pelas torres de cerco no lado de fora da cidade
@@gabrieldossantoscampos5127 Vlw, muitos achavam que era Latim mas eu sabia que não era... Só não sabia qual
@@mistermath481 É, os mongóis tentaram dominar, até onde eu pude entender. Mas foram destruídos pelos "Athanathoi", esses carinhas aí. Os guerreiros "imortais" bizantinos realmente existiram como uma das forças especiais que os bizantinos possuíam. Muito provável que tenham surgido em contraposição aos "imortais persas", conhecidos inimigos dos bizantinos.
0:49
They are Roman army?
Yes and no. The City of Kitezh (the hidden city which Lara and trinity are trying to find) was built by the immortal prophet and his followers after they fled the Byzantine Empire (which was technically the Eastern Roman Empire, which didn’t fall until the 15th century, while the western Roman Empire fell in 400AD). Hope this answer isn’t to complex lol.
@@Brapgod I'm understand. Thanks for your explain.👍👍
some byzantine were maybe medieval italian descendants of romans, but they were mostly greeks
Formerly yes. They were known as the Athanatoi (a real-life order of the East Roman Empire), but they joined the Prophet to Syria and Siberia. They guarded the city until the Mongols came and then sunk it beneath the ice. If they came out of Kitezh and said 'we are the last of the Romans' then they are the last of the Romans.
@@Brapgod Byzantium is a made up word.Their romans
Romans...
@The Saint You mean "the fall of the Western side"
the byzantines were mostly greeks
@@giannilyanicks1718 Romanised Greeks...
Their helmets remind me of galea helmets.
@@giannilyanicks1718 In blood. They were all citizens of the Roman Empire.
Interesting indeed, obviously never even thought about the language they speak about but i guess sort of fun twist. Or perhaps bit lazy. Might have been more interesting if actually latin but, since I enjoyed this game mostly a lot. I forgive this XD
Razen Hashikado Greek is historically accurate according to when they left the Byzantine Empire.
Você já ouviu a pronúncia do Latim antigo? Em Grego fica mais emocionante o discurso deles XD
thanks man....I was searching for this subs and translations for about two year.