This idea is quite awesome for companies. You just give every employee one of these and they can take it home for working at home if they want and when they are at work they just slide it in one of the screens. Fantastic! This is a bettor solution then using laptops and give them external screens imo.
Wow there's been a lot of hate in these workstation reviews. It's obvious the normal audience of this channel isn't the target consumer base for these products. In businesses, there are much more important considerations than the price/performance ratio. Anyway, I enjoy seeing some new content and I vote for more non-gaming focused reviews. Seems to be a good opportunity for NCIX anyway.
I'm currently borrowing the Tiny and it actually isn't bad for gaming, It plays Goat Simulator, Team Fortress 2, Garrys mod and Half Life 2 series really well and I haven't found a game where it lags badly! Im very impressed. Though if you were planning on getting this it can't play newer games on the highest graphic options, just be aware of that.
Bought for of these for work. asked Lenovo for attachable CD drives and Windows 8.1 pro. units arrived with laptop CD drives and no external mounting gear to actually use them and they all had Windows 8Core installed. Called Lenovo back and they wanted to charge an extra $150 to reinstall Windows 8.1 pro and took over two weeks to send us the external mounting gear. Dell from now on thank you.
It's funny to me that PC companies are jumping on the bandwagon they chastise Apple for. They also condemn Apple for their prices, but these Lenovo units cost about the same as the Mac Mini. I do think that it's amazing that they considered to make these an AIO with these monitors and the inclusion of the port "relocation" is a great addition. I'm not a fan of Lenovo or their aesthetic, but I'm sure PC users who don't want a Mac Mini will be happy with these tiny PCs.
What ports are not available? What more do you need in a unit like this? You have all of the ports the Lenovo has except for their proprietary port. Sadly, the newest Mac Mini doesn't have replaceable parts inside like RAM or a hard drive. I think Lenovo is on the right track with this product, but everyone just seems to be following the lead of the company they all say they hate.
***** You're proving my point. And why do you need more ports on a laptop at the range the Macbook is covering? How many things do you plug into your computer at a time anyway? Apple is doing well for itself, and other companies are following them because they want the sales even though they are "making fun of" Apple. Just wait. There will be laptops with one or no ports in the near future from other manufacturers as well.
***** Are we talking about the Macbook or the Mini? Why would you plug the Macbook into a separate monitor? I'm sure you could find a way to share your screen wirelessly with another computer if you really needed to, but it's not that kind of computer. It's got its own keyboard and trackpad, so no need there. The charge port is the only thing you need now and that's covered. Flash devices are going by the waist side with cloud storage, so no need to plug that in. And now to discuss the attack on my "excuses" for Apple. I'm not making excuses, I'm simply trying to have a discussion about hardware and how manufacturers seem to be doing what Apple has been doing for years while everyone is hating on them. Everyone will hate on the Apple Watch too, but it just sold 2.4 million units showing that smart watches are a viable device, so others will follow suit. They certainly aren't the first to do this, but it's showing progress. Apple was one of the first PC makers to remove the floppy drive on the first iMac. They were one of the first to remove the optical drive. The created a better data and charging port with the Lightning port. They are innovating and others are catching up. They don't do everything right, but it seems others are happy to follow them and make their own version of these products while hating on the brand. Now enter the Lenovo M series and micro PCs like the Brix after everyone thought the Mac Mini was stupid. It works for Apple, so why not make their own?
You should seriously consider making ISOs on USB drives. Optical drives are basically dead. Even gaming consoles have more downloaded games than disks. And I'm hoping you're kidding about some of this. 45 euro (around $100) is cheap for a monitor. Also, my car stereo doesn't even have a disk drive. It's all about bluetooth syncing now.
We buy the Tiny PC's at the company I work for. The monitor/dock is kind of a deal breaker as we need all the USB ports in back and at least 6 of them.
We have a few of those. The cheapest available actually. We use them to just connect to a cloud configured terminal that has the beef config. Cheap, safe storage, easily configurable without buying hardware. I'm slightly confused why not more companies do this. Why keep all of that crap indoors when you already should get an offsite backup to make sure you don't loose your company when a fire breaks out...
LOL I still use the keyboard that they show with that PC, except that this one came from a 2006 Lenovo Desktop PC, (In lenovo's defense this keyboard still works great and I have found it suitable for some gaming)
Dell already sells Optiplex Micro PC's. Sadly they still only do 23" All In One PC's. Hope they fixed the overheating issues, had to take off the plastic back on our Dell All In One Inspiron 2305 to stop it from overheating. Not enough heat slots on the plastic and the fan inside is whimpy as hell.
***** Usually in x86 tablets they use the U or Y series of cpu's from the 5th generation processors from intel. They are using the same cpu's as the tablet ones in ultrabooks. So, yeah tablet cpu's in laptops.
1080p for workstation ?!!? the hell! --- let me elaborate since a lot of people got confused ... 16:9 is absolutely not an ideal aspect ratio for a work environment, and coming from Lenovo from all people, this should be known; 5:4 monitors are more suited for workstations and to an extent, 16:10
jonoc5 depends in what kind of work you do. i have multiple docs documents, a couple of browser windows and dictionaries open when i translate something and having to minimize / move windows slows the productivity.
***** Not for businesses. If i'm buying 2,000 computers for a very specific purpose, i'm going to buy the ones that do the job and nothing more. NOBODY needs 1440p for spreadsheets and even an extra $50 equates to an extra $100,000.
***** if you'd worked on such a monitor, as a workstation you would understand why; more suited for this type of environment are 5:4 monitors or to an extent, 16:10but not 16:9
Okay, but it will take a looooong time to get the people knowing they have to plug their USB drives into the front of the monitor and not into some "fancy box with cables coming out of the back" under the desk... aaaand these PCs are pretty expensive imo
+tpcs Well technically it could if you bought a eGPU and connected it to the spare mini PCI-e on the motherboard... but without that? Nope. Well this is also assuming the M83 has the same motherboard and spare expansion ports as the M93p.
For $600 I have a 2-in-1 laptop and tablet, touchscreen, i5 processor, 8GB of ram, 1TB HDD, mouse when I want to use that instead, and it probably runs just as fast if not faster than that PC. For cheaper.
what makes it more (or even equally) attractive than other, way smaller contenders like zotac or gigabyte? (wich actually look like they're from this decade ;)) the product over all seems subjectively kinda outdated to me...
Assume this was a demo which was why you didn't open the PC. What kind of HDD is it? 2.5" or 3.5"? SDD or mechanical? Does this rig with monitor have speakers? Whatz the res of the monitor? Is it a touch screen? Ok, so its got laptop sized DIMMs, and 3.5" HDD... weird. Why not a 2.5" HDD? All in all not even a decent first look if you don't spit out the relevant specs. If I have to go to other sites to get the specs, well, you kinda didn't do a very good job.
Always liked small pc's but the price of this baby is unjustified, even for home TV and business use i'd go with a NUC or put up together a small, smart and cheap mATX pc.
Yeah that i5 isn't going to stand up to any live updating plugin software, crystal ball, or anything more than your basic OPM or monte carlo models... this looks like s pc you'd give you sales force in Atlanta, not your analysts in NY...
Only 4Gb of RAM?! Does anyone else think that might be too little? I keep lots of tabs open on my work computer, with MS Office and spotify, wouldn't that fill up? My work and home PC have 8 gigs and almost always use 4.
Nikki DeRaad Price is a huge factor, and most users don't need laptops. Nor do we, at least at my company, want users to have laptops that don't need them. Personally I would love to use these over our desktop models we currently use.
Jason Hoogerhyde Advantages over a real desktop: Its small... and well, that's it. In businesses, schools, etc., servicing these things would be a pain - aside from the SODIMM & HDD, everything else is proprietary, therefore most likely more expensive, & harder to find.
***** The obvious benefit is that when a hardware issue occurs, IT can just send down another PC insert and have the user up and running within minutes. I'd be highly surprised if a company using them didn't lock the computer compartment anyway. These are for businesses where users have simple needs, obviously no tech would ever use one.
Guys i need some help with cpus , i wonder what brand i should get amd or intel i've heard that intel has more advanced tech. I'm planing to do some 4k gaming and crossfire/sli in the future. Thanks in advance
vlad dragos it's not all about the clock speed, it has hyper threading more lanes and is just a beast, it all depends on your price range and how expensive the parts are in your country, it is very subjective of the person
vlad dragos for around $1200 you can build a pc with amd 8350 and gtx gtx 970 in sli. Save the money from not going with intel and slap on an all in one liquid cooler. Other parts are up to you. Yes Nvidia has better technologies, but if all you want to do is record. Then get two 290x's in crossfire. Saves money but you will need like a 1000w Power supply. Any questions let me know.
I still fail to see the appeal of AIOs. There are basically no situations where that form factor is useful. At work? You have a desk, plenty of space for a mini itx system to be out of your way (if you don't, what kind of work are you doing that requires a pc but doesn't provide you a desk of some sort?). At home? You have ALL the space you want. So why pay more for something like this?
Sauron It makes more sense if you look at it from the IT techs view on its users. For example, if the user trys to move the computer there is less cables which may not be plugged in or plugged in correctly. This reduces the calls which waste the IT techs time.
jammy rogers yeah, makes sense I suppose. Not so much an advantage for the user but for the guy who needs to solve the user's problems... At least this one is modular.
Sauron It also makes sense when you work at a company which fully adapted the system. If you have to change places often, do presentations and stuff or have different offices. Of course every place has to have these special monitors, but then you can just carry the little thing aroung with you and dock it in at various places. Even if you have the same thing at home for example.
MrDrunkenMoose a AIO is not exactly portable... you still need an extermal psu in a lot of cases and in the others you'll need at least a power chord and your peripherals. They are also much heavier than a laptop if less than a regular desktop. If you need to move your pc around for presentations and such you should really be using a laptop, not an AIO. These things have mobile parts anyway.
I dont get these "Desktops". If i want a desktop i have room for atleast a mini ITX build and if I want it tiny and portable i use a Laptop, with maybe an extra monitor. But these things are crap. And a 1080p 23" monitor for over 300 dollar? And dont tell me how good they might be, if you have a pc, which only handles spreadsheet i dont need the best monitor out there.
Ven Kitsune well it is pricey. IMO for spreadsheets/work there is many cheap laptops/netbooks which would be better option anyway (since you can actually use them when you take them somewhere else), so yeah this is a ripoff when you can build REAL PC for less (or buy laptop!).
twin titans gets smacked down by twin amd 295x2 cards...and amd does it at almost half the price. why, oh why is titan getting so much unwarranted free press.
Horribly overpriced. While most businesses will not be gaming, they also do not upgrade very often and thus there is a focus on getting the best performance for the money, especially if they will be keeping the same systems for the next 5-7 years. For the price, you can build a better spec mini ITX system, or build a pretty decent lower mid range gaming PC (that will handle all of your office needs)
There are hardly any tax benefits that will even come close to justifying a new computer purchase for all workers. Unless you are in some insanely rick company where the work is largely focused of graphic design work or other work where you can never have too much CPU horsepower, you will see replacement cycles of 5-7 years (maybe even more, especially for lower level work such as working with documents, and call center type stuff) Most management is reluctant to upgrade when the old equipment still works, and allows workers to do their job. Unless something changes in the industry, they expect the computers to allow the workers to be fully productive (e.g., moving from a core i3, to a core i7 based system will likely not do much for the user using MS word, or running IE in order to interact with a horrible designed web based interface for a call center. What many managers are interested in is the return on investment of the product, and the long term use. (I have worked with companies where if the upper management had it their way, everyone would still be on PDP8's ) Moving to new hardware is pretty much always a fight. (it doesn't matter if it becomes increasingly more stressful for the IT staff to manage outdated systems, IT gets paid to make sure that the stress never makes it to the higher ups).
My school has the worst version of these I can make it crash with the Open All Programs command in cmd and its running some linux that looks like copyrighted windows 7. heck, it doesn't even have a BIOS and looks like a Raspberry Pi. I consider it to be the worst piece of technology on the planet
This idea is quite awesome for companies. You just give every employee one of these and they can take it home for working at home if they want and when they are at work they just slide it in one of the screens. Fantastic! This is a bettor solution then using laptops and give them external screens imo.
Man, I was looking for info on a different Lenovo, and I ended up clicking this video. Did not expect Riley.
I LOVE the modular design of this! I think it's awesome!
I think my school has these computers. They're actually not bad.
Dominic London my old school had similar pc's to these too, pretty cool actually.
So this pc is for speadsheets? but Will it run my spreadsheets at 4K 60Fps ?
Gijs van Bruggen There is only one way to find out !!!
Gijs van Bruggen come on, 8K 144Hz is minimum
At my place of work we deploy nothing but lenovo's and the M93z and these the tinyline are the golden child of what the users use.
Wow there's been a lot of hate in these workstation reviews. It's obvious the normal audience of this channel isn't the target consumer base for these products. In businesses, there are much more important considerations than the price/performance ratio. Anyway, I enjoy seeing some new content and I vote for more non-gaming focused reviews. Seems to be a good opportunity for NCIX anyway.
I like the new videos guys, and the setting is nicer as well as the sound. Great job! :)
We have over 60 in my workplace, and it was worth every penny.
I'm currently borrowing the Tiny and it actually isn't bad for gaming, It plays Goat Simulator, Team Fortress 2, Garrys mod and Half Life 2 series really well and I haven't found a game where it lags badly! Im very impressed. Though if you were planning on getting this it can't play newer games on the highest graphic options, just be aware of that.
Fuck yeah, M83 is awesome. Good job whoever listens among your crew.
nice i could see this work out as a PC for the living room TV
Bought for of these for work. asked Lenovo for attachable CD drives and Windows 8.1 pro. units arrived with laptop CD drives and no external mounting gear to actually use them and they all had Windows 8Core installed. Called Lenovo back and they wanted to charge an extra $150 to reinstall Windows 8.1 pro and took over two weeks to send us the external mounting gear.
Dell from now on thank you.
It's funny to me that PC companies are jumping on the bandwagon they chastise Apple for. They also condemn Apple for their prices, but these Lenovo units cost about the same as the Mac Mini. I do think that it's amazing that they considered to make these an AIO with these monitors and the inclusion of the port "relocation" is a great addition. I'm not a fan of Lenovo or their aesthetic, but I'm sure PC users who don't want a Mac Mini will be happy with these tiny PCs.
What ports are not available? What more do you need in a unit like this? You have all of the ports the Lenovo has except for their proprietary port. Sadly, the newest Mac Mini doesn't have replaceable parts inside like RAM or a hard drive. I think Lenovo is on the right track with this product, but everyone just seems to be following the lead of the company they all say they hate.
***** You're proving my point. And why do you need more ports on a laptop at the range the Macbook is covering? How many things do you plug into your computer at a time anyway? Apple is doing well for itself, and other companies are following them because they want the sales even though they are "making fun of" Apple. Just wait. There will be laptops with one or no ports in the near future from other manufacturers as well.
***** Are we talking about the Macbook or the Mini? Why would you plug the Macbook into a separate monitor? I'm sure you could find a way to share your screen wirelessly with another computer if you really needed to, but it's not that kind of computer. It's got its own keyboard and trackpad, so no need there. The charge port is the only thing you need now and that's covered. Flash devices are going by the waist side with cloud storage, so no need to plug that in.
And now to discuss the attack on my "excuses" for Apple. I'm not making excuses, I'm simply trying to have a discussion about hardware and how manufacturers seem to be doing what Apple has been doing for years while everyone is hating on them. Everyone will hate on the Apple Watch too, but it just sold 2.4 million units showing that smart watches are a viable device, so others will follow suit. They certainly aren't the first to do this, but it's showing progress. Apple was one of the first PC makers to remove the floppy drive on the first iMac. They were one of the first to remove the optical drive. The created a better data and charging port with the Lightning port. They are innovating and others are catching up. They don't do everything right, but it seems others are happy to follow them and make their own version of these products while hating on the brand. Now enter the Lenovo M series and micro PCs like the Brix after everyone thought the Mac Mini was stupid. It works for Apple, so why not make their own?
Ibraheem Productions I consider that a bonus. Who seriously still uses VGA? The Mac OS doesn't even support that anymore without an adaptor.
You should seriously consider making ISOs on USB drives. Optical drives are basically dead. Even gaming consoles have more downloaded games than disks. And I'm hoping you're kidding about some of this. 45 euro (around $100) is cheap for a monitor. Also, my car stereo doesn't even have a disk drive. It's all about bluetooth syncing now.
We buy the Tiny PC's at the company I work for. The monitor/dock is kind of a deal breaker as we need all the USB ports in back and at least 6 of them.
I love things like this.
a bit business class for me, was after a cheaper more basic solution. Somehow, you got me on the Lenovo website checking if it fitted my needs though!
***** Thinking about it this would be a perfect installation for any retail outlet
I kinsa want it. Its well designed. Its like an ecosystem
We have a few of those. The cheapest available actually. We use them to just connect to a cloud configured terminal that has the beef config. Cheap, safe storage, easily configurable without buying hardware.
I'm slightly confused why not more companies do this. Why keep all of that crap indoors when you already should get an offsite backup to make sure you don't loose your company when a fire breaks out...
the thing is imo people who would be interested in the upgradeability and modularity of this solution wouldn't want an all-in-one to begin with...
But that's the thing. Its an All in One that can be taken apart easily.
Zotac EN760!!
I have one. I like it.
That is all.
Now this is how you do AIOs!
LOL I still use the keyboard that they show with that PC, except that this one came from a 2006 Lenovo Desktop PC, (In lenovo's defense this keyboard still works great and I have found it suitable for some gaming)
Dell already sells Optiplex Micro PC's. Sadly they still only do 23" All In One PC's. Hope they fixed the overheating issues, had to take off the plastic back on our Dell All In One Inspiron 2305 to stop it from overheating. Not enough heat slots on the plastic and the fan inside is whimpy as hell.
Yeeeey, more leg room in a tiny cube!
This is kinda cool!
great video
Linus needs to hire you..
What about a mid-range mini pc for gaming or 1080p video playback?
1:14 Isn't the black intel stickers used only for extreme edition cpu's?
mbsfaridi And some Business grade CPUs too, all with vPro support have a black sticker.
***** Ah, I see. Thanks!
***** Tablet cpu's have those as well?
***** Usually in x86 tablets they use the U or Y series of cpu's from the 5th generation processors from intel. They are using the same cpu's as the tablet ones in ultrabooks. So, yeah tablet cpu's in laptops.
Awesome!!!!
I hope that in 10 years every computer will be small than that
I don't :v let's keep the size the same but the power and performance growing
***** A portable oven???
1080p for workstation ?!!? the hell!
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let me elaborate since a lot of people got confused ...
16:9 is absolutely not an ideal aspect ratio for a work environment, and coming from Lenovo from all people, this should be known; 5:4 monitors are more suited for workstations and to an extent, 16:10
zMe ul ...yeah?
***** What are you on about? this PC has the minimum hardware for an office environment. Why would anyone need 1440p or 4k for excel or word?
jonoc5 depends in what kind of work you do. i have multiple docs documents, a couple of browser windows and dictionaries open when i translate something and having to minimize / move windows slows the productivity.
***** Not for businesses. If i'm buying 2,000 computers for a very specific purpose, i'm going to buy the ones that do the job and nothing more. NOBODY needs 1440p for spreadsheets and even an extra $50 equates to an extra $100,000.
***** if you'd worked on such a monitor, as a workstation you would understand why; more suited for this type of environment are 5:4 monitors or to an extent, 16:10but not 16:9
@Sauron Oh sry, I meant this specific product not aios in general. Got that wrong sry. Yeah normal aios are mostly good for clean aesthetics.
sooo... can it suppourts a 4way SLI titan x???
how is the cooling done when docked?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..#justlenovothings killed me. lololol
Why so serious Keys ?
How can you hook it to 4K tv monitor? Any hdmi ?
Okay, but it will take a looooong time to get the people knowing they have to plug their USB drives into the front of the monitor and not into some "fancy box with cables coming out of the back" under the desk...
aaaand these PCs are pretty expensive imo
Yes, but can it run battlefield?
Nikos Costa dumbass he JUST explained TWICE it's NOT meant for gaming. WTF do you think. -_-.
Chronofusion Jesus it was a joke XD!!!
+tpcs Well technically it could if you bought a eGPU and connected it to the spare mini PCI-e on the motherboard... but without that? Nope.
Well this is also assuming the M83 has the same motherboard and spare expansion ports as the M93p.
So hows esther?
Won't it overheat when it's stuck in the monitor? I mean with the dust buildup and whatnot :o
*****
Yep but still it's not a Core M nor a notebook processor, I still have a few doubts about it especially after it sits there for a long time :3
This video didn't pop up in my sub box, so share it more on Twitts or facebooks
For $600 I have a 2-in-1 laptop and tablet, touchscreen, i5 processor, 8GB of ram, 1TB HDD, mouse when I want to use that instead, and it probably runs just as fast if not faster than that PC. For cheaper.
what makes it more (or even equally) attractive than other, way smaller contenders like zotac or gigabyte? (wich actually look like they're from this decade ;))
the product over all seems subjectively kinda outdated to me...
I would love a MSI workstation laptop(s) reviews!!
so what online games can you play on this??? and would you be able to uprgrade to be able to game on it???
+NCIX Tech Tips
This is basically a laptop with the screen, keyboard, mouse and hardware separated.
So pretty much what you mean is AIO PC? Right?
Yo Keys didn't you forget something? something like Benchmarks?
What GPU does that have? xD
Assume this was a demo which was why you didn't open the PC. What kind of HDD is it? 2.5" or 3.5"? SDD or mechanical? Does this rig with monitor have speakers? Whatz the res of the monitor? Is it a touch screen?
Ok, so its got laptop sized DIMMs, and 3.5" HDD... weird. Why not a 2.5" HDD? All in all not even a decent first look if you don't spit out the relevant specs. If I have to go to other sites to get the specs, well, you kinda didn't do a very good job.
Joseph1NJ Well a 3.5" in. HHD is more reliable and has more cache than a 2.5"in HHD.
PC Tech Tips Think so? Its a close call these days.
can I play DOTA 2 on this?I play games but games I play doesn't need much...will be any problams if play games like DOTA 2 on this
Always liked small pc's but the price of this baby is unjustified, even for home TV and business use i'd go with a NUC or put up together a small, smart and cheap mATX pc.
can it play gtav
nice
***** does it come with super fish?
***** No, only the cheep Lenovo laptops and desktops did. Now its not pre-installed :)
PC Tech Tips 1600 euros for a laptop cheap? Hmmkay.
Hey, if you can play minesweeper they must be great gaming PCs!
Yeah that i5 isn't going to stand up to any live updating plugin software, crystal ball, or anything more than your basic OPM or monte carlo models... this looks like s pc you'd give you sales force in Atlanta, not your analysts in NY...
Actually, Iris Pro GT2e could do okay for gaming. ;-)
I'd love a laptop without the screen and sold as a mini PC for people who hook up their laptops to Monitors anyways
>implying that windows 8.1 it's an upgrade
>windows 8.1
>upgrade
>kek
Do you even know what you're typing? -_-.
yep, it's like saying that windows vista was an upgrade to windows XP back in the days
Looks like size does matter.
"M83 (not the band)"
Lies. Always the band.
Only 4Gb of RAM?! Does anyone else think that might be too little? I keep lots of tabs open on my work computer, with MS Office and spotify, wouldn't that fill up? My work and home PC have 8 gigs and almost always use 4.
i just don't see how this beats a laptop with dock. can someone explain any situation in which this is better?
Nikki DeRaad For business? Do you really need somebody to tell you why a laptop + dock is not better than this?
Laptop and dock would cost more. This is more for simplicity not portability
Nikki DeRaad Price is a huge factor, and most users don't need laptops. Nor do we, at least at my company, want users to have laptops that don't need them. Personally I would love to use these over our desktop models we currently use.
Jason Hoogerhyde Advantages over a real desktop: Its small... and well, that's it. In businesses, schools, etc., servicing these things would be a pain - aside from the SODIMM & HDD, everything else is proprietary, therefore most likely more expensive, & harder to find.
***** The obvious benefit is that when a hardware issue occurs, IT can just send down another PC insert and have the user up and running within minutes. I'd be highly surprised if a company using them didn't lock the computer compartment anyway.
These are for businesses where users have simple needs, obviously no tech would ever use one.
Perfect for minesweeper!
Guys i need some help with cpus , i wonder what brand i should get amd or intel i've
heard that intel has more advanced tech. I'm planing to do some 4k gaming and crossfire/sli in the future. Thanks in advance
Intel 5820k is great for the money if money isn't a problem
Why is this cpu better then a 6 core amd cpu @ around 3,3ghz? im a bit of a noob
vlad dragos it's not all about the clock speed, it has hyper threading more lanes and is just a beast, it all depends on your price range and how expensive the parts are in your country, it is very subjective of the person
Its your dad Oh , ok thanks.
vlad dragos for around $1200 you can build a pc with amd 8350 and gtx gtx 970 in sli. Save the money from not going with intel and slap on an all in one liquid cooler. Other parts are up to you. Yes Nvidia has better technologies, but if all you want to do is record. Then get two 290x's in crossfire. Saves money but you will need like a 1000w Power supply. Any questions let me know.
I still fail to see the appeal of AIOs. There are basically no situations where that form factor is useful. At work? You have a desk, plenty of space for a mini itx system to be out of your way (if you don't, what kind of work are you doing that requires a pc but doesn't provide you a desk of some sort?). At home? You have ALL the space you want. So why pay more for something like this?
Sauron It makes more sense if you look at it from the IT techs view on its users. For example, if the user trys to move the computer there is less cables which may not be plugged in or plugged in correctly. This reduces the calls which waste the IT techs time.
jammy rogers yeah, makes sense I suppose. Not so much an advantage for the user but for the guy who needs to solve the user's problems... At least this one is modular.
Sauron AIOs are easier to deploy.
Sauron It also makes sense when you work at a company which fully adapted the system. If you have to change places often, do presentations and stuff or have different offices. Of course every place has to have these special monitors, but then you can just carry the little thing aroung with you and dock it in at various places. Even if you have the same thing at home for example.
MrDrunkenMoose a AIO is not exactly portable... you still need an extermal psu in a lot of cases and in the others you'll need at least a power chord and your peripherals. They are also much heavier than a laptop if less than a regular desktop. If you need to move your pc around for presentations and such you should really be using a laptop, not an AIO. These things have mobile parts anyway.
Yeah.. But will it run GTA V? :D
Dat bezel
I dont get these "Desktops". If i want a desktop i have room for atleast a mini ITX build and if I want it tiny and portable i use a Laptop, with maybe an extra monitor. But these things are crap. And a 1080p 23" monitor for over 300 dollar? And dont tell me how good they might be, if you have a pc, which only handles spreadsheet i dont need the best monitor out there.
and Half Life 2 and light gaming.
Welp, the monitor is totally hideous with those thick bezels and the ThinkCentre logo on top.
no way that thing will run minesweeper
am I the only one that is bothered by the i5 sticker being crooked?
My old computer got 0 fps on minesweeper
Half of the CPU horsepower in this Lenovo is dedicated to run Chinese government hack ware. The rest is for Excel.
lol such a high failure rate of these things. We have at least 50~100 of them fail when we build about 600 of them.
That? For $600? What a ripoff! I could build a more powerful build for $500
Muddy Fudger thats not the point. the point is that its small and easy to carry... i thought that was made clear in the video....
Muddy Fudger Fuckin bronies.
Ven Kitsune well it is pricey. IMO for spreadsheets/work there is many cheap laptops/netbooks which would be better option anyway (since you can actually use them when you take them somewhere else), so yeah this is a ripoff when you can build REAL PC for less (or buy laptop!).
Ted Bundy a laptop with a similarly good processor would be a few hundred more, and any pc you build will be 10 times bigger.
Adam K yeah no one needs such CPU for office work ...
twin titans gets smacked down by twin amd 295x2 cards...and amd does it at almost half the price. why, oh why is titan getting so much unwarranted free press.
Just get a NUC ,so much cooler
It is what asus does with their phone and tablet ( u know whot i meen)
E-C PC
That monitor's bezel is disgusting.
OMG! My school has these computers! They are a bag of crap.
摹 GhФst your school has much better pc's than ours, we have pentiums with 1gb of ram
The ones we have only have an i3 though.
I think they have older models and they are limited to the school network speed
My school uses ipads to all students insted of computers
摹 GhФst That's because they're business pcs
*sniff sniff* I smell something superfishy
My school has really small computers but they are bigger than this lonovo and also only carry a i3 processor! Yikes
Horribly overpriced. While most businesses will not be gaming, they also do not upgrade very often and thus there is a focus on getting the best performance for the money, especially if they will be keeping the same systems for the next 5-7 years. For the price, you can build a better spec mini ITX system, or build a pretty decent lower mid range gaming PC (that will handle all of your office needs)
Clearly you don't know anything about businesses then. They replace them as soon as possible they get tax wright offs and other things.
There are hardly any tax benefits that will even come close to justifying a new computer purchase for all workers.
Unless you are in some insanely rick company where the work is largely focused of graphic design work or other work where you can never have too much CPU horsepower, you will see replacement cycles of 5-7 years (maybe even more, especially for lower level work such as working with documents, and call center type stuff)
Most management is reluctant to upgrade when the old equipment still works, and allows workers to do their job.
Unless something changes in the industry, they expect the computers to allow the workers to be fully productive (e.g., moving from a core i3, to a core i7 based system will likely not do much for the user using MS word, or running IE in order to interact with a horrible designed web based interface for a call center.
What many managers are interested in is the return on investment of the product, and the long term use. (I have worked with companies where if the upper management had it their way, everyone would still be on PDP8's )
Moving to new hardware is pretty much always a fight. (it doesn't matter if it becomes increasingly more stressful for the IT staff to manage outdated systems, IT gets paid to make sure that the stress never makes it to the higher ups).
those tax wright offs are in deducting the cost of the equipment. its for the company. thus they can wright it off and have a lower tax bracket.
My school has the worst version of these I can make it crash with the Open All Programs command in cmd and its running some linux that looks like copyrighted windows 7. heck, it doesn't even have a BIOS and looks like a Raspberry Pi. I consider it to be the worst piece of technology on the planet
Eww, the bezels are huge.
stay tuned, wtf is this Linustechtips?
huh huh huh. minesweeper though
Those bexels tho.. Ugly.
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Alexander Dautzenberg Dam!
But will it play Crysis?