If you haven't yet taken a Future Conflicts class, let this video be your reason to take one now. Dan and Josh are great teachers and as a fellow instructor in the same region, I learned a lot from them and always refer my students to them for this type of education.
Did some CQB force-on-force last year. Discovered that, at comparable levels of training, we were 50/50 on casualties. Surprise helps, and so does quickness of action - like, coming around a corner and just being ready. But going into a building is just an awful idea.
An underrated video, and an even more underrated subject. Civilians need to come down a notch and realize the suicidal nature of conducting these “raids” without the training SWAT and tier 1 operators get, they don’t realize just how fast that can put you in the ground unless you train for it vigorously like the previously mentioned specialized teams, which they don’t have the proper instruction or the time for anyway. I think it shouldn’t go unsaid how unlikely raiding random structures is for civilians. Basic CQB for protecting your home is the only real scenario you will find yourself in and anything bigger than that is beyond your depth and likely will result in your demise. Train for the probable not the possible, because the possible is endless and unrealistic.
Exactly. Americans need to knock off the fuckin fake ass Navy Seal bullshit. Sure, get out there and train. Get familiar with your tools. But Standing there, shooting at static targets over and over aint it. The idea that they're gonna be the ones that "Save their community" is absurd. If their were a real fighting force they had to go up against, they're dead in minutes. Its not fuckin hollywood where you can just rub some dirt on a GSW.
Patience wins when fighting a larger force. Play bigger than you are. You don't have to be lethal, be goddamn annoying. Ruin sleep, ruin meals, ruin toilets
This was great! I’ve been seeing way too many people thinking they can get out there and do operator sht and then saying stuff like “if I gotta white light someone at 150 yards I’m good with my surefire”
Great stuff. I'm glad to see reality appearing across gun tube these days. 20 years of conflict and nobody seems to care how a bunch of dudes in dishdashas with Ak's effectively countered American forces. Those are the lessons we should be learning. For example my first thought was: you guys know where the enemy goes to every day, they seem like creatures of habit especially if they got bold enough to start kidnapping people, start there. Anyways awesome content.
I feel like you guys have really found the sweet spot when it comes to adapting tactical theories and concepts for the prepared citizen in the worst case scenarios. The scenario videos are really eye opening and I loved your video about Trees.
@@futureconflicts This theories and scenarios are exactly the type of things I enjoy discussing. Have you all considered making a discord/telegram at all for the sole purpose of theory crafting or scenario training?
Hmmm, real talk on serious issues... Done right, 50% to 66% casualties for for all high value enemy targets. That mean you are able to bring just better than one in three to justice. Done right, expect one to three casualties on the blue team. Thats if all goes well. Sometimes, things go very wrong. Is it still worth it? Probably not. Back up. Engage from distance. Call in something bigger. Stay out of the kill zone. Anybody tells you different...you should reconsider carefully. Be safe, Phil
just found your channel, liked and subscribed! it’s great seeing so many new channels like yours popping up recently, goes to show everyone knows what’s up… can’t wait for more content and to see y’all grow!
It might sound silly, but anyone who have tried airsoft CQB know that your life expectancy is around 5 minutes, even if you are carefull and experienced
this is why milsim west is great training, this is essentially MSW training. roll with a bunch of people you dont know, random sets of gear and execute a mission, and its great fun. its no supplement for live fire but a great tool in the bag to practice stuff and meet some new friends and have fun stories
Yeah CQB is less about being able to walk into any building and kill the occupants, it's about obtaining the tactical intelligence needed to catch them flat footed. It's not that civilians can't obtain the training required to successfully execute building raids, it's that the people they go to to learn those things don't have the full picture because they are a small piece in a large, intricate operation, and don't really have much insight into the intelligence collection process that enables those raids. Yet when people look for reconnaissance training, they mostly want to learn how to shoot a scoped carbine and not set up an LP/OP, learn the 7 fundamentals of reconnaissance, etc. You can get pretty slick running shoot-house reps with the boys, that part is entirely attainable, but if you're going in blind during an inopportune time you're in all likelihood going to walk into a trap.
I don’t necessarily think the CQB aspect for civilians is necessarily for conducting assaults or raids but the same principles apply when you are already inside of a structure or building and something pops off and then you have to fight your way out
I learned everything I need to know about CQB from playing Doom for years of my life. If you are going someplace you’ve never been with the expectation to eliminate targets and you don’t know their numbers or where they are, unless there is ammo and medkits laying around you are going to die. A lot.
While I've never been trained, the time I spent with airsoft and other 'game warfare' (including video games) lets me know right off the bat, if I have other options, I'm not entering buildings as an aggressor, and I really don't want to be doing anything involving a stairwell. Chokepoint and a half, ends with bodies stacked high enough to block the route. Without some kind of force multiplier or disruptor (flashbangs come to mind), you aren't getting up those stairs without casualties against even a half-awake opponent. Although, I guess if you don't have to worry about penetration (no hostages or concerns about volatiles/structure integrity), you could always locate their hidey point and light them up through the floor, in most non-industrial buildings. God forbid you be silly enough to go in with no idea of the floorplan.
Good video. Shows how important it is to be a devious SOB and set up vicious ambushes, booby traps, etc on buggers like that. The direct frontal assault is almost always a bad idea in this kind of scenario - even tier 1 operators have massive support behind them, an infinite supply of ammo available(not that they can carry infinite, just that they will never not have the supply of ammo they want), the best tech etc. Think way outside the box and ambush their counter ambush so to speak.😂
Whats the difference between training and larping? Because they are not professional soldiers, L.E. Using that logic. Wearing a seatbelt in a car and youre not a professional race car driver, is larping. A life jacket is larping. Taking Vitamin C is larping. Etc. All are things that you may never need but you do in case of a car crash, a sinking boat or avoiding a cold. Or. An shtf situation. All things you hope never happen but would like to live through.
@@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat mindset is the difference. And for everything you mentioned. Professionals are training to deliberately put themselves into that situation. They are well organized, funded, and supported. Everyone else is just preparing for an unlikely scenario, or for some, hoping (dreaming/fantasizing) for one.
@@SNAKEEATER1776sounds like mindset is the same: “training” aka LARPing repeatedly to survive dangerous situations The major difference is the amount of training and funding available
@@chupacabra304 there’s a difference in mindset set when a citizen is merely training or preparing for a gun fight vs a professional who is ready to deliberately put himself into one or many. Think of it like this. In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, there’s two types of fighters: Recreational athlete and competitive athlete. They are both in the same room on the mats training from the same instructor. But you’ll see a vast difference in mentality, aggression, skill, and competence because they are deliberately putting themselves in the arena for all to see and to validate their skills. LARPers are training, but they DO NOT carry the same type of mindset as the professionals.
When taking into consideration for SHTF/Civil War/Invasion scenarios it seems everyone is focused on CQB. Seeing that the absolute DEADLIEST soldiers in world history are Snipers, you would think more people would attempt to become one. I would much rather be fully concealed with good camo, rifle 800M+ capable while silenced, have FLIR/Night Vision and engage from long distance than attempt to fight a force in CQB. Not saying eventually you wont be forced into CQB during those scenarios but you shouldn't be seeking them out and if you do you should do a LOT of recon before you even think about it. If you're good they won't even know where they're being hit from.
Is the house bulletproof? Are there known hostages? Is the house the family home of one of my fellow militia members, partisans or guerrri fighters? If not its easy to clear the house, simply turn it into swiss cheese.
@nicholasbreecher931 To win wars, sometimes you MUST retreat. History is replete with examples. Many battles were won in exactly this manner as well. There are many wars which were lost directly due to commanders not accepting the battlefield situation, which can change hour to hour. Perhaps if your expertise wasn't based on TH-cam Ranger SEaL videos you would know that. This video, and the senario implied is not about a greater conflict. It was about dealing with encountering a larger force that has commandeered your area of operation/control. If you want to harrass a larger force by sabotaging their toilets 😅, again you go ahead and tell me how that goes. About this video, doorkicking as the guy said, "this is something you don't want to do." I agree, this is stupid. Don't know why this vid is made other than to get clicks. But you go on how you're 5Star General Rambo. 😅😅 And how I'm such a chicken/dumbs**t.
Agreed, I always cringe when I see dudes train to conduct a “raid” on a house or something like that’s even a priority in their day to day life or whatever boogaloo/ purge scenario. It’s like these guys want the worm food speed run record, all that prep means nothing if you rush in a random house and die 3 days into the apocalypse.
@@WraithlikeLuke i think it's good to practice and know, but yeah most dudes think a couple courses makes them a delta operator. I have absolutely no idea so clearing a foreign building is last resort. I've been through a couple courses and my Marine father taught me a bit but again, I am no goon. Last resort
If I need to go into a house like this I will be waiting outside to ambush and play it smart. I want to work from a position of advantage and avoid going into the house until I know I have every advantage. Anyone who thinks they're gonna go in like an operator and stack hits has spent too much time on Instagram
Biggest problem I see with this training is a flawed template. This is SHTF. There are no rules of engagement. You burn the building. You light oneside and wait on the otherside. They will need the hostages alive to live. So they will bargain. If they dont and everyone goes up in flames, so be it. If you chose to breach, got close, they wouldve eliminated them anyway. So no assets lost trying. No chance of being counter attacked from reduced force due to kia or casualties being a distraction.
Hey my friend thanks for your comment. You run your community problem solving however you see fit, but for me and for the guys who come to my course, we prefer to not burn our daughters alive. The students got a lot better at problem solving safely the following day.
Bro did you not hear them say that they have hostages.... Possibly YOUR daughters in there! YOU DON'T THINK THEY WOULD JUST LEAVE THEM IN THERE AND RUN FOR THE HILLS....
If you haven't yet taken a Future Conflicts class, let this video be your reason to take one now. Dan and Josh are great teachers and as a fellow instructor in the same region, I learned a lot from them and always refer my students to them for this type of education.
Did some CQB force-on-force last year. Discovered that, at comparable levels of training, we were 50/50 on casualties. Surprise helps, and so does quickness of action - like, coming around a corner and just being ready. But going into a building is just an awful idea.
House to house and trench warfare seems like hell on earth.
And at night and unknown territory!
IDF are beasts then.
An underrated video, and an even more underrated subject.
Civilians need to come down a notch and realize the suicidal nature of conducting these “raids” without the training SWAT and tier 1 operators get, they don’t realize just how fast that can put you in the ground unless you train for it vigorously like the previously mentioned specialized teams, which they don’t have the proper instruction or the time for anyway.
I think it shouldn’t go unsaid how unlikely raiding random structures is for civilians. Basic CQB for protecting your home is the only real scenario you will find yourself in and anything bigger than that is beyond your depth and likely will result in your demise.
Train for the probable not the possible, because the possible is endless and unrealistic.
Agreed and spot on, thank you.
that last paragraph is right on.
@@saber1885 Exactly!!
Exactly. Americans need to knock off the fuckin fake ass Navy Seal bullshit. Sure, get out there and train. Get familiar with your tools. But Standing there, shooting at static targets over and over aint it. The idea that they're gonna be the ones that "Save their community" is absurd. If their were a real fighting force they had to go up against, they're dead in minutes. Its not fuckin hollywood where you can just rub some dirt on a GSW.
Patience wins when fighting a larger force. Play bigger than you are. You don't have to be lethal, be goddamn annoying. Ruin sleep, ruin meals, ruin toilets
Very Suns of the Sues like
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. But you tell me how that works out bro.
Guerilla tactics
@@user-cq6km9vq2m tell us what you would do? im curious.
@@Super61a
Leave.
This was great! I’ve been seeing way too many people thinking they can get out there and do operator sht and then saying stuff like “if I gotta white light someone at 150 yards I’m good with my surefire”
This is the most based take on civilian CQB on YT right now. Good stuff!
Speed, Suprise & Violence of Action are key in CQB. 4-6 man teams are best as well and each man should never clear a room alone period.
Great stuff. I'm glad to see reality appearing across gun tube these days. 20 years of conflict and nobody seems to care how a bunch of dudes in dishdashas with Ak's effectively countered American forces. Those are the lessons we should be learning. For example my first thought was: you guys know where the enemy goes to every day, they seem like creatures of habit especially if they got bold enough to start kidnapping people, start there. Anyways awesome content.
I feel like you guys have really found the sweet spot when it comes to adapting tactical theories and concepts for the prepared citizen in the worst case scenarios. The scenario videos are really eye opening and I loved your video about Trees.
Thanks man I really appreciate that
@@futureconflicts This theories and scenarios are exactly the type of things I enjoy discussing. Have you all considered making a discord/telegram at all for the sole purpose of theory crafting or scenario training?
@@bananastand9820 if you have an Instagram, check out @futureconflicts and the link to our discord is in our bio
Hmmm, real talk on serious issues...
Done right, 50% to 66% casualties for for all high value enemy targets.
That mean you are able to bring just better than one in three to justice.
Done right, expect one to three casualties on the blue team.
Thats if all goes well. Sometimes, things go very wrong.
Is it still worth it?
Probably not. Back up. Engage from distance. Call in something bigger.
Stay out of the kill zone.
Anybody tells you different...you should reconsider carefully.
Be safe,
Phil
We are talking about fighting against a well regulated federal fighting force… we dont have the luxury of air strikes
just found your channel, liked and subscribed! it’s great seeing so many new channels like yours popping up recently, goes to show everyone knows what’s up… can’t wait for more content and to see y’all grow!
This course looks like a blast!
This is an awesome video
It might sound silly, but anyone who have tried airsoft CQB know that your life expectancy is around 5 minutes, even if you are carefull and experienced
“Never stop for a man down”
this is why milsim west is great training, this is essentially MSW training. roll with a bunch of people you dont know, random sets of gear and execute a mission, and its great fun. its no supplement for live fire but a great tool in the bag to practice stuff and meet some new friends and have fun stories
Long range is the way boys
Amen
The more I see shit like this the more I'm thinking about a nice bolty in .300win
Yeah CQB is less about being able to walk into any building and kill the occupants, it's about obtaining the tactical intelligence needed to catch them flat footed. It's not that civilians can't obtain the training required to successfully execute building raids, it's that the people they go to to learn those things don't have the full picture because they are a small piece in a large, intricate operation, and don't really have much insight into the intelligence collection process that enables those raids. Yet when people look for reconnaissance training, they mostly want to learn how to shoot a scoped carbine and not set up an LP/OP, learn the 7 fundamentals of reconnaissance, etc. You can get pretty slick running shoot-house reps with the boys, that part is entirely attainable, but if you're going in blind during an inopportune time you're in all likelihood going to walk into a trap.
I don’t necessarily think the CQB aspect for civilians is necessarily for conducting assaults or raids but the same principles apply when you are already inside of a structure or building and something pops off and then you have to fight your way out
I got the same uniforms as the bad guys, would look just like them. It would be pretty confusing for them
would love the opportunity to train like this, don't have the gear for it though lol. it costs thousands more for me
You could probably get what you need for about $600 my dude. Try gunbroker.com
@@futureconflicts Right? Better to get less expensive gear and the training. Vs expensive gear that someone might be scared of scratching up.
PSA makes great AR's for 700, and upgraded versions for 1k with trigger packages and Mlok handrails and such.
I learned everything I need to know about CQB from playing Doom for years of my life. If you are going someplace you’ve never been with the expectation to eliminate targets and you don’t know their numbers or where they are, unless there is ammo and medkits laying around you are going to die. A lot.
best manual on room clearing tactics out there has be TM31-210 1969 edition
While I've never been trained, the time I spent with airsoft and other 'game warfare' (including video games) lets me know right off the bat, if I have other options, I'm not entering buildings as an aggressor, and I really don't want to be doing anything involving a stairwell. Chokepoint and a half, ends with bodies stacked high enough to block the route. Without some kind of force multiplier or disruptor (flashbangs come to mind), you aren't getting up those stairs without casualties against even a half-awake opponent. Although, I guess if you don't have to worry about penetration (no hostages or concerns about volatiles/structure integrity), you could always locate their hidey point and light them up through the floor, in most non-industrial buildings. God forbid you be silly enough to go in with no idea of the floorplan.
Love the doses of reality
Good video. Shows how important it is to be a devious SOB and set up vicious ambushes, booby traps, etc on buggers like that. The direct frontal assault is almost always a bad idea in this kind of scenario - even tier 1 operators have massive support behind them, an infinite supply of ammo available(not that they can carry infinite, just that they will never not have the supply of ammo they want), the best tech etc.
Think way outside the box and ambush their counter ambush so to speak.😂
It looks like you guys are from MD, have a large group that would potentially like to run some of your classes!
Wed love to have you bro! Shoot me an email contact@futureconflicts.com and we'll set it up
Love the message of the reality for these situations. This is fantasy LARPing for anyone else not in a SOF/SWAT capacity.
Those dudes train every day for this and still have things go south
Whats the difference between training and larping? Because they are not professional soldiers, L.E. Using that logic. Wearing a seatbelt in a car and youre not a professional race car driver, is larping. A life jacket is larping. Taking Vitamin C is larping. Etc.
All are things that you may never need but you do in case of a car crash, a sinking boat or avoiding a cold. Or. An shtf situation. All things you hope never happen but would like to live through.
@@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat mindset is the difference. And for everything you mentioned. Professionals are training to deliberately put themselves into that situation. They are well organized, funded, and supported. Everyone else is just preparing for an unlikely scenario, or for some, hoping (dreaming/fantasizing) for one.
@@SNAKEEATER1776sounds like mindset is the same: “training” aka LARPing repeatedly to survive dangerous situations
The major difference is the amount of training and funding available
@@chupacabra304 there’s a difference in mindset set when a citizen is merely training or preparing for a gun fight vs a professional who is ready to deliberately put himself into one or many.
Think of it like this. In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, there’s two types of fighters: Recreational athlete and competitive athlete. They are both in the same room on the mats training from the same instructor. But you’ll see a vast difference in mentality, aggression, skill, and competence because they are deliberately putting themselves in the arena for all to see and to validate their skills.
LARPers are training, but they DO NOT carry the same type of mindset as the professionals.
This isn't assaulting a thug traffic blockade, though. That'd be handled with two distinct teams: snipers at range and close in cqb team.
Watch any CQB footage from the recent wars. You'll learn fast how little training matters
And how much athleticism matters instead
When taking into consideration for SHTF/Civil War/Invasion scenarios it seems everyone is focused on CQB.
Seeing that the absolute DEADLIEST soldiers in world history are Snipers, you would think more people would attempt to become one.
I would much rather be fully concealed with good camo, rifle 800M+ capable while silenced, have FLIR/Night Vision and engage from long distance than attempt to fight a force in CQB.
Not saying eventually you wont be forced into CQB during those scenarios but you shouldn't be seeking them out and if you do you should do a LOT of recon before you even think about it.
If you're good they won't even know where they're being hit from.
Its not about if you want to or if its smart. Sometimes you HAVE to. I dont get this argument.
Is the house bulletproof? Are there known hostages? Is the house the family home of one of my fellow militia members, partisans or guerrri fighters?
If not its easy to clear the house, simply turn it into swiss cheese.
The scenario was they were trying to rescue kidnapped hostages.
@nicholasbreecher931
To win wars, sometimes you MUST retreat. History is replete with examples. Many battles were won in exactly this manner as well. There are many wars which were lost directly due to commanders not accepting the battlefield situation, which can change hour to hour.
Perhaps if your expertise wasn't based on TH-cam Ranger SEaL videos you would know that.
This video, and the senario implied is not about a greater conflict. It was about dealing with encountering a larger force that has commandeered your area of operation/control.
If you want to harrass a larger force by sabotaging their toilets 😅, again you go ahead and tell me how that goes.
About this video, doorkicking as the guy said, "this is something you don't want to do." I agree, this is stupid. Don't know why this vid is made other than to get clicks.
But you go on how you're 5Star General Rambo. 😅😅 And how I'm such a chicken/dumbs**t.
Alot of yall need less "range" time and more force on force time.
👍🏽
cqb for civilians, as i see it, is clearing your house. Thats pretty much the beginning and end of it.
Lets hope and pray we never have to
Agreed, I always cringe when I see dudes train to conduct a “raid” on a house or something like that’s even a priority in their day to day life or whatever boogaloo/ purge scenario.
It’s like these guys want the worm food speed run record, all that prep means nothing if you rush in a random house and die 3 days into the apocalypse.
@@WraithlikeLuke i think it's good to practice and know, but yeah most dudes think a couple courses makes them a delta operator. I have absolutely no idea so clearing a foreign building is last resort. I've been through a couple courses and my Marine father taught me a bit but again, I am no goon. Last resort
If I need to go into a house like this I will be waiting outside to ambush and play it smart. I want to work from a position of advantage and avoid going into the house until I know I have every advantage. Anyone who thinks they're gonna go in like an operator and stack hits has spent too much time on Instagram
Biggest problem I see with this training is a flawed template. This is SHTF. There are no rules of engagement. You burn the building. You light oneside and wait on the otherside. They will need the hostages alive to live. So they will bargain. If they dont and everyone goes up in flames, so be it. If you chose to breach, got close, they wouldve eliminated them anyway. So no assets lost trying. No chance of being counter attacked from reduced force due to kia or casualties being a distraction.
Hey my friend thanks for your comment. You run your community problem solving however you see fit, but for me and for the guys who come to my course, we prefer to not burn our daughters alive. The students got a lot better at problem solving safely the following day.
Bro did you not hear them say that they have hostages.... Possibly YOUR daughters in there! YOU DON'T THINK THEY WOULD JUST LEAVE THEM IN THERE AND RUN FOR THE HILLS....
lol. you lost me at guy smoke cigar....where are the booby traps...improvised mines...combat is not just guns.