The Love Triangle That Brought Down Québec

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  • @GhislainBlais
    @GhislainBlais ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I live in Quebec City. The tree was cut down in 2021, it was sick. The ball was not in fact a cannonball, but an object placed on the corner of the street to prevent carts from hitting the side of the house. There were some in several places, but they have been removed. Our knowledge of history is evolving.

    • @martinlacouline2049
      @martinlacouline2049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ah non, t'es pas sérieux... je vis à Québec moi aussi je voulais aller voir ça...

    • @martinemjt
      @martinemjt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i don t think the tree was 200+ yrs old.

    • @THE_MOONMAN
      @THE_MOONMAN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why did they cut it down!? That tree has seen more of Canadian history than any of us can ever hope to! Truly unfortunate. Old trees getting cut down always bums me out

    • @severianmonk7394
      @severianmonk7394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it was an elm it couldn't be saved.

  • @ivandinsmore6217
    @ivandinsmore6217 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This man is a great storyteller.

  • @supersoul4541
    @supersoul4541 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tree has been cut down and cannonball removed. It turned out that the ball wasn’t part of a battle but put there by the homeowner to prevent carriages from cutting the corner

  • @GlenAndFriendsCooking
    @GlenAndFriendsCooking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    You guys have done such a great job with these! If only I had these 40 years ago when I was in public school...

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not get a like ,ugh.

  • @pinkcyclop
    @pinkcyclop ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just discovered your channel after recommendations from TH-cam. Excellent research, storytelling and video production. I will be binging more historical events and people you've covered.

  • @alainouellet7794
    @alainouellet7794 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for your videos on Canada. Incredibly well done. Santé!

  • @vents12
    @vents12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Incredible video, i am from Quebec city and i did not know of that story. Looking forward to more videos

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It didn't jump out at us either. We only stumbled across it after looking into the building next to the cannonball-then we were shocked we hadn't heard it before.

  • @Buddhiman
    @Buddhiman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your videos are better than any movie, video editing, your speaking style is great, I get inspiration from watching your videos and trying to make history in our area like you, I live in Kolkata, India, I will definitely meet you if I ever go to Canada.

  • @qcpresto
    @qcpresto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Merci, je connaissais pas du tout cette histoire.

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Il ne nous a pas sauté jusqu'à ce que nous regardions dans le bâtiment à côté du boulet de canon nous-mêmes!

    • @9grand
      @9grand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Désolé , mais je n`ai pas compris? Voulez -vous dire ' sauté aux yeux'??

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Désolé, notre français a besoin d'amélioration! Nous n'avons pas trouvé l'histoire jusqu'à ce que nous avons fait des recherches sur la maison à côté du boulet de canon.

    • @9grand
      @9grand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Canadiana . Merci, on apprécie l'effort!

    • @rejeangadbois3123
      @rejeangadbois3123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      moi non plus.

  • @JasonKucherawy
    @JasonKucherawy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Excellent video and story! That's only one version of how the bomb got to where it was though...
    Another possible explanation was it was placed there in the 19th century by British army surveyors along with many others as stationary markers to measure distance between points so they could draw accurate maps of the city. It was simply left beside a tree that continued to grow, while the others were collected when the surveying was complete. It's a pretty boring story.
    Another one I heard recently which is even more mundane is the bomb is attached to a metal rod and anchored in place in the ground as a chasse-roue or wheel guard that kept horse-drawn wagons far enough from the corner of the house when turning that they wouldn't clip the stone wall as it rounded the corner. However, that doesn't make for as good a tale.
    When leading tours of Quebec City I told the different versions I know, but conclude by saying that to the people of Quebec the cannonball (or bomb) represents the past battles and the tree represents the growing history and the population of Quebec City which has enveloped and embraced that part of the past, becoming an integral part of what makes the city what it is today. :-)

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We actually went into writing the episode knowing this and struggled with how to deal with the fact there are multiple theories-mentioning all three theories was important, but would have disrupted the episode to a degree that didn't make it worth it to digress on camera.
      We decided, based on the bomb's symbolism (which you allude to) and on the episode's narrative as a whole, that going with the "most popular" story behind its location was the most appropriate. If you look at the description beneath the video you will see we mentioned all three theories and gave an explanation for why we chose to go with the most popular explanation. Our explanation centres around the idea that the bomb's happenstance landing isn't the most important aspect of its presence-its memory-vault-like symbolism is more important.
      If viewers see this comment: please read the descriptions for extra tidbits and clarifications because, since TH-cam removed annotations, it's the only way to correct errors or include background information without disrupting the episodes after we've shot them.
      At the end of the day, we never found a 'smoking gun' that said-matter of fact-one theory trumped the others. We heard mention of a photo from the early 1900s, but couldn't find it. From what we could find (including literature citing leading historians on the subject) the two other 'boring' theories seem like rational and respectable cases against serendipity: "it seems so unrealistic that the bomb has never moved for 250 years, so what can we theorize that might make it seem more logical?"
      However, if we ever find (or if you happen to have) articles/literature/citations that speak to blatant evidence backing any of the theories, we will gladly put it in the description. We were not aiming to misdirect or falsely encourage an urban myth, we just never found anything that put it in any more question than the other two theories. We were hoping that saying "at least, the most popular theory" in the episode would put enough doubt in the viewers' minds to look elsewhere or in our description for explanation.
      We thank you for going into depth in the comment as well-we couldn't find anything that specific in regards to the military theory.
      In our research, we dove into the biology of elm trees as well. Most certainly the tree seeded and grew after the bomb ended up where it was, or it would already be consumed. But that doesn't really matter in terms of the bomb's resting place on any timeline.

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      By the way, the symbolism of the tree as you describe it is a beautiful metaphor we wished we had thought of. Tour guides are so awesome.

    • @dosmundos3830
      @dosmundos3830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      regardless of how it got to where it is now, i'm astonished that a bomb was allowed to lay on the ground long enough for an elm to encase it in the first place lol. nice video, thanks :)

  • @therealmccoy5433
    @therealmccoy5433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy needs his own show on CBC.👍🏻
    Well done !

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They've turned us down...twice! But it's okay, we are in the midst of pitching for other funding.

  • @travelexperiencedevoyage
    @travelexperiencedevoyage หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Quebec City, my favourite city in all of Canada! So much history!

  • @rorymacintosh6691
    @rorymacintosh6691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful story. Many thanks!

  • @sabrinadee5344
    @sabrinadee5344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We were just there 2 days ago and we even got the picture of that tree. I didn’t know about that story. Thank you for sharing!

  • @veroosh
    @veroosh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Are you working through a grant? I think Canada would sponsor your channel take care!

  • @marriedaprince1
    @marriedaprince1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    this was great- I love 18th century European history, but I have to say I never really explored Quebec history, although they are closely related! I am learning French, and became very interested, this was an enjoyable video- I can't wait to visit Quebec one day!

    • @marriedaprince1
      @marriedaprince1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @S M california :))

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@ Kat We do too! One of the things that bothers us, as Canadians, is 18th Century history is rarely widely shared and, if it's covered, usually involves some dull, low-budget re-enactments. Quebec is incredible, it seems like every town has its own unique story, well worth a trip! As Ontarians ourselves, Quebec City is akin to taking a trip to Europe-even though it's historically the root of the country (since the colonists arrived). Thanks for watching and we will definitely cover more 18th Century Canadian history in the future!

    • @ceces8947
      @ceces8947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Canadiana Thanks for the video.. I’d heard that the loss of New France was a battle between European countries mentioned from my studies in my genealogy history family tree but I hadn’t heard about the tree bomb. Also happy that none of that trios names exist in my tree. Gotta wonder about the goings on in the background today. God bless Canada today.

    • @cheaze69
      @cheaze69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quebec is beautiful!!

  • @DragAmiot
    @DragAmiot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a nice find. I didn't know that story. Really Interesting! Keep up the good work!

  • @SyChO4Life
    @SyChO4Life 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great stuff, very interesting and great production value.

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much, we hope to get better with each episode. The animations are tough!

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't place the narrators accent? East coast?

  • @Maxime_Grisé
    @Maxime_Grisé 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a direct descendant of the supply-house keeper under Péan at Fort-St-Louis de Chambly, and who was indicted in L'Affaire du Canada.

  • @danq.5140
    @danq.5140 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been to Quebec City many times and have never heard this story. Thanks.

  • @FruitloopLeviathan
    @FruitloopLeviathan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, I like your cap by the way.

  • @MatthewSmith-wv5fi
    @MatthewSmith-wv5fi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would really love to see a legitimately exciting telling of our history. Most attempts I've seen look more like theater productions than films.

  • @TitoM72
    @TitoM72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful story, I was in Quebec city years ago and have seen that tree and cannon ball.

  • @tracydee1857
    @tracydee1857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best way to learn.

  • @ShafterRod
    @ShafterRod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome job guys!

  • @georgetherat3345
    @georgetherat3345 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love your channel @

  • @azib958
    @azib958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please keep this up!

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're trying! Thanks!

  • @elovingrosepsychic6771
    @elovingrosepsychic6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the pictures of Pean & Bigot!! Brilliant...

  • @markdemell3717
    @markdemell3717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some of those names ,,Bigot ,I almost spit out my drink. I am subscribing,there is so little Canadian history out there .

  • @k.n.v.b1113
    @k.n.v.b1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply amazing !!!

  • @rosemaryflynn5289
    @rosemaryflynn5289 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic and informative videos

  • @jfnoevil
    @jfnoevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The city of Québec got the famous British cannonball removed has the three was put down because of sickness and the security of the people of Québec. No more cannonball on la rue Saint-Louis.

  • @derek8c829
    @derek8c829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just wanna say i think your videos are great! i would love to see a video about settling the west. Particulary the early days in Alberta

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We have tons of episode ideas lined up for Alberta! Just need the funding to get out there. Thanks for watching!

  • @waynemullally6423
    @waynemullally6423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    France and Quebec were still operating under a fuedal system. When Quebec fell the aristocrats and their flunkies returned to France leaving the habitants to the British. Quebecers were then oppressed by the Roman Catholic church until the quiet revolution or the sixties. In Canada, we now have the most enlightened French people in the world. Take note

    • @magdaw3123
      @magdaw3123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your nonsense is not worth commenting. take note

    • @waynemullally6423
      @waynemullally6423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@magdaw3123 thhhpp

  • @sharonsampson4380
    @sharonsampson4380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating!!!

  • @PhilipPwnz
    @PhilipPwnz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent!

  • @brad450
    @brad450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And now the tree is gone 😥

    • @pixelsocket
      @pixelsocket 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait really? I would have thought it was going to be preserved

  • @andyball2629
    @andyball2629 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool story!

  • @rondavis459
    @rondavis459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    been there several times, knew the story but didn't know about the bomb tree. would have liked to have seen that

    • @9grand
      @9grand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tree is no more !

  • @bobolpatrick3789
    @bobolpatrick3789 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    très intéressant merci !

  • @geoffreylee5199
    @geoffreylee5199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Louisbourg was massive in size maybe 10% has been rebuilt.

  • @kenster8270
    @kenster8270 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:49 Wait, so if this guy was exiled to Switzerland, I'd argue that that wasn't such a terrible punishment. 😏

  • @jackrabbit5047
    @jackrabbit5047 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are a lot of fun

  • @Wild-Dad
    @Wild-Dad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I am ever in Quebec, I’ll have to check out the cannon ball!

    • @christofat2704
      @christofat2704 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw it , easy to find

    • @Canadiana
      @Canadiana  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The whole of Rue St. Louis is a treasure trove of historical artefacts! You'll surely be able to spot the tree if you go!

    • @Sophiasisi
      @Sophiasisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They took it down because the tree was threatening to fall

    • @Wild-Dad
      @Wild-Dad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sophiasisi - that is too bad. Oh well, lots of other sights to see in the City anyways.

    • @galrhum1
      @galrhum1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Je suis de Québec et le boulet dans l'arbre ne date pas de la bataille de 1759. C'est une légende. Il a une chaine et a été placé là pour attacher les chevaux. L'arbre a poussé et l'a englouti. Il a été retiré depuis (voir autres commentaires).

  • @zachlightcap2179
    @zachlightcap2179 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big O tires. A connection?

  • @DiscoverMontréal
    @DiscoverMontréal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These fucking videos are incredible

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s actually a “love V”. A triangle has three sides, not two. It would only have been a love triangle if one of the two guys was into the other as well. Which, for all I know they were, but the story doesn’t assert that. :-)

    • @nozecone
      @nozecone ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not the common meaning of the term "love triangle".

  • @FOR_THE_Pascal.
    @FOR_THE_Pascal. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Osti d'corruption

    • @oslo8055
      @oslo8055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey ça va faire le sacrage la. Cruchon de boboche.

  • @shakeandbake7324
    @shakeandbake7324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a direct descendant of Louis Hebert

  • @benfitz7898
    @benfitz7898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are many inaccuracies and errors in the video. Many facts come from gossip or popular stories. starting with the fortifications: the current form was designed by the British several decades after these events. You should watch your video again and check your facts!

    • @russelletfilstaximetre233
      @russelletfilstaximetre233 ปีที่แล้ว

      effectivement les murs comme on les connaît date du 19ieme siècle, les murs étaient en bois

  • @9grand
    @9grand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is real Péan , the clothes ( late 18 th century)do not seem to be accurate .

  • @Overlord24
    @Overlord24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bon!! Perdu d'avance !!! So Montcalm was not the main actor in the loss of Québec.

    • @Willsmith547
      @Willsmith547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The French was outnumbered by almost the double

  • @karenpeck8525
    @karenpeck8525 ปีที่แล้ว