Just want to say...I see a lot of woodworking videos from alot of content creators, but I always check with Stumpy Nubs and Jon Peters before I do anything.
And here again a great, simple, and safe way to do something on the Stumpy Nubs channel. 2 years old and absolutely relevant. Thank you once again for expanding my brain
I purchased a Creker High-Speed Steel Dowel Plate with 17 Holes for $69 and thought my days of having crappy dowels days were gone. Recently I saw a TH-cam video of making a small finger joint box using a hidden wood hinge. I made several dowels and had to sand all of them but still were crappy. I saw your video and gave it a shot and even though it was red oak and it was very smooth. I had tried to make the dowels before but allowing them to remain square on the ends did the trick. I am an old fart and old age doesn't always make one smart. I Thank you for making this video.
Still making "oval" dowels with a draw-knife... There's a work-around for any reason, including the completely illogical... Sometimes we "craftspeople" are allowed to do things JUST to make others "behind us" ask "Why the f*** would anyone do it THAT WAY?!" ...perk of the "job". ;o)
I immediately tried this after watching the video. After a quick setup, I was able to get perfectly round dowels. I needed half inch walnut dowels, and mine measured .504" which provided a nice snug fit for joinery! This is a game changer!
This is why I watch your vids: I think your dowel technique tells me what I need to do to recreate a few missing oak strips to discreetly fix my desk divider situation. Thank you!
That was very interesting to me, I live in a small city, in Zimbabawe, in darkest Africa (we have power outages often) the selection of dowels here is almost non existent so this opens a whole new world to me
I have used a modified version of your technique to round the edges of my stock prior to feeding through a Veritas dowel making jig (ie cutting 3/16 square stock about 1/16th oversize then rounding the corners with a 3/8 round over bit then feeding through the 3/8" dowel jig resulting in very accurate dowels). At the time I wondered if it was practical to just skip the jig and do everything with the round over bit. This video shows it is indeed possible. Thanks for another excellent how-to video!
Absolutely the best way to make dowels, I tried other methods a none of them produced clean smooth dowels like a sharp router bit. This especially worked well for small dowels like 1/4". It also produced clean dowels from purple heart which was giving me nightmares with other methods. Don't skimp on the router bit though, go with the Whiteside bits.
Tip for setting the fence on the router table. At least on my Kreg Router Table, one can lock one end of the fence and pivot the fence on that locked end. Simply set the fence by using a straight edge to push the fence back until the straight edge contacts the guide bearing on the bit. Lock the other end and the fence is perfectly in line with the bit.
Beautiful! Wonderful! Exceptional! Now I will never make my own dowels but what you just showed us will enable folk in an amazing way, I mean the way to stop a dowel spinning as you make it is a total winner!! Stumpy, I love what you do! Kindest Bob England
What a great tip. I thought I was almost done with my project but now I might give this a shot to give my project a little something extra. What is the formula used to determine the size bit you need for the desired dowel? If you want to cut a 1" dowel, do you use a half inch bit? Also, I appreciate the cadence and tone of your voice in your videos. It makes it easy to follow along and the lesson non-intimidating or condescending.
Dowel plates are easy to make. A trick to compress the dowel, just like a joiner biscuit, is to run the dowel through the plate backwards. The tapered hole will compress the wood, then when glue hits it, it will expand, locking the joint tight. Be sure to use very dry wood for any dowels being used in glue-ups. A food dehydrator can treat small ones overnight.
@Stumpy Nubs . Thanks James for the tips on making my own dowels. Nice to know I'm not at the mercy of the home centers or lumber yards when it comes to dowel sizes I may need. And gives me a reason when the time comes for getting that router table. Hope you, your staff, and your families stay safe and well.
Thanks, this is great. Don't know why I had never seen videos on making your own dowels before (non-lathe). This method is something I will try out soon.
Garry not Linda. Go to Izzy Swan's channel. Look for making dowels or easy dowel maker in his older stuff. All you need is a drill and some common shop tools.
You assume he only wants a router table to make dowels. There are LOADS of reasons to own a router table. And while the method Izzy shows works, it is far less precise and requires a lot more sanding. Plus, you still need a router, just not a table.
@@StumpyNubs Thank you for the video. I have a trim router and use it a bit. I just got the fence attachment for it and I like using it . I needed to make a slot in some arms I was making and doing it freehand wasn’t working.
"YOU can't sew on what therouter bit takes off" lol least bandsaws n table saws ya get that option thinking about it. Once again love how You always find that extra bit of info that makes ya! Would love to see some more old timey workshop#
Yeah that statement hit me in the feels. So true, and touch wood, the only damage my router ever did to me was the very tip that did grow back. Sometimes it takes that close call to realise what could have happened and make you make damned sure that it doesn't happen again.
Somewhere, down in the chip pile of my jointer, you will find the tip of my right, middle finger!🤯☠️👹 DON’T get lazy! Pay attention to what you’re doing!! I don’t want to go into all the details right now, just know that safety REALLY matters! There are better ways to occupy your time than in the ER!!
Dowel plate baby! Just kidding, this is actually very helpful. I’ve never needed a long dowel with an accurate diameter the whole way, usually just at the ends. I’ll keep this in mind for the future!
👍 Great tip! Might suggest a small clamp on fence next to the stock and a long narrow push handle. The add on fence will hold the material against the main fence while pushing it through the router bit. You can still start and stop leaving the square ends even add a stop if wanted. Just a thought.
Years ago I was asked to make a martial arts staff at a particular diameter. It wasn’t a diameter you could get in a router bit. What I did was I used a 45° angle bit and then a 22 1/2° angle bit. You have to get the set up just right, but go from a four sided blank that is as wide as the diameter you want, then turn it into an eight sided blank with a 45° bit, and then turn it into a 16 sided shape with the 22 1/2° bit. Then some 60 grit sandpaper took down the edges and it felt perfectly smooth a d round to my hands.
This is a good alternate way to make dowels. I'll have to check what the biggest bit is I have and try it. Would I be able to make tapered dowels? I've seen several versions of table saw doweling jig and have thought about going that route.
Great video! In addition to my work in my blacksmith shop (per the name, find us on facebook) my dad and I have a full wood shop, I had just made a few playing card deck holders out there for a few friends with small dowels as the posts holding the cards in place. This sure would've made the whole affair easier! Will keep in mind for the next ones!
Gday @@BenjaminGoose wood “Grain” is what was meant by that. Things like the direction it runs, how straight it is, how tight of grain is has, knots, does that make it clearer?
QUESTION? I watch a woodworker on TH-cam who has a Jointer Planer Table saw all in one unit. Have you seen one of these units? I’ve been looking for one and can’t seem to find on, to see how it works. Can you help me?
greetings stumpy, if i don't have the table for setting the router bits, is there also a practical way to create custom dowels if i got router or forstner bits, say with a drill or impact driver... application ideally similar to log screws in cabin building in connecting every two logs or so, a video would be great, else a response would greatly be appreciated, a new DIYer
Just want to say...I see a lot of woodworking videos from alot of content creators, but I always check with Stumpy Nubs and Jon Peters before I do anything.
And here again a great, simple, and safe way to do something on the Stumpy Nubs channel. 2 years old and absolutely relevant. Thank you once again for expanding my brain
I purchased a Creker High-Speed Steel Dowel Plate with 17 Holes for $69 and thought my days of having crappy dowels days were gone. Recently I saw a TH-cam video of making a small finger joint box using a hidden wood hinge. I made several dowels and had to sand all of them but still were crappy. I saw your video and gave it a shot and even though it was red oak and it was very smooth. I had tried to make the dowels before but allowing them to remain square on the ends did the trick. I am an old fart and old age doesn't always make one smart. I Thank you for making this video.
I have really been wanting to make my own dowels for making wooden nuts and bolts and you sir have the best method I have seen. Thank you.
Wow you are a true Craftsman! My fav on youtube so far! Thank you
That's why I love wood working, seems like a limitless number of ways to do something!
agree. there's always a way around it :-)
Still making "oval" dowels with a draw-knife... There's a work-around for any reason, including the completely illogical...
Sometimes we "craftspeople" are allowed to do things JUST to make others "behind us" ask "Why the f*** would anyone do it THAT WAY?!"
...perk of the "job". ;o)
Rough language takes away from your message. Please consider others when writing.
Clear, simple and brief, well done.
That is the best Idea I've seen. May I add one additional comment, it's safer.
I like your videos. You try to help the beginner. I appreciate it.
I immediately tried this after watching the video. After a quick setup, I was able to get perfectly round dowels. I needed half inch walnut dowels, and mine measured .504" which provided a nice snug fit for joinery! This is a game changer!
This is why I watch your vids: I think your dowel technique tells me what I need to do to recreate a few missing oak strips to discreetly fix my desk divider situation.
Thank you!
That was very interesting to me, I live in a small city, in Zimbabawe, in darkest Africa (we have power outages often) the selection of dowels here is almost non existent so this opens a whole new world to me
I have used a modified version of your technique to round the edges of my stock prior to feeding through a Veritas dowel making jig (ie cutting 3/16 square stock about 1/16th oversize then rounding the corners with a 3/8 round over bit then feeding through the 3/8" dowel jig resulting in very accurate dowels). At the time I wondered if it was practical to just skip the jig and do everything with the round over bit. This video shows it is indeed possible. Thanks for another excellent how-to video!
Excellent, especially the tip about leaving both ends of the dowel square to prevent rolling!
Ah ha! I especially appreciate the tip about leaving squares on the ends! Well done, again!
Thanks for this very thorough video. Leaving the ends square adds a level of precision and SAFETY to the process. 👍👍👍👍👍
Absolutely the best way to make dowels, I tried other methods a none of them produced clean smooth dowels like a sharp router bit. This especially worked well for small dowels like 1/4". It also produced clean dowels from purple heart which was giving me nightmares with other methods. Don't skimp on the router bit though, go with the Whiteside bits.
I don't know what I expected when I clicked on this video - - but I didn't expect a router to be involved. My bag of tricks just increased.
Tip for setting the fence on the router table. At least on my Kreg Router Table, one can lock one end of the fence and pivot the fence on that locked end. Simply set the fence by using a straight edge to push the fence back until the straight edge contacts the guide bearing on the bit. Lock the other end and the fence is perfectly in line with the bit.
Beautiful! Wonderful! Exceptional!
Now I will never make my own dowels but what you just showed us will enable folk in an amazing way, I mean the way to stop a dowel spinning as you make it is a total winner!!
Stumpy, I love what you do!
Kindest
Bob
England
I found the answer for my question in your video. Thanks and regards from Brazil
GREAT suggestion about the square ends!!
I love the sacrificial square ends. Thanks.
I don’t care if you call me immature, but there is NO WAY I was the only one who laughed at 3:40😂😂😂
What a great tip. I thought I was almost done with my project but now I might give this a shot to give my project a little something extra. What is the formula used to determine the size bit you need for the desired dowel? If you want to cut a 1" dowel, do you use a half inch bit? Also, I appreciate the cadence and tone of your voice in your videos. It makes it easy to follow along and the lesson non-intimidating or condescending.
The square ends is so simple but so clever. I am so annoyed with myself for not thinking of it. Thank you.
Agreed, It seems a lot safer as well.
BRILLIANT!!!! That looks like even I can do it. Thanks Stumpy
Dowel plates are easy to make. A trick to compress the dowel, just like a joiner biscuit, is to run the dowel through the plate backwards. The tapered hole will compress the wood, then when glue hits it, it will expand, locking the joint tight. Be sure to use very dry wood for any dowels being used in glue-ups. A food dehydrator can treat small ones overnight.
Simple but a great idea. I need to make some dowels, this will help, thanks.
@Stumpy Nubs
. Thanks James for the tips on making my own dowels. Nice to know I'm not at the mercy of the home centers or lumber yards when it comes to dowel sizes I may need. And gives me a reason when the time comes for getting that router table.
Hope you, your staff, and your families stay safe and well.
Great suggestion on making your own dowels.
Thanks Stumpy, nice tip, cheers from New Zealand.
Exactly what I needed! Thank you!
Thanks, this is great. Don't know why I had never seen videos on making your own dowels before (non-lathe). This method is something I will try out soon.
Great tip
Always enjoy your video's. Perfect dowels and clever, easy solution. Absolutely love the router bit wall idea!!!
White side good bits !
Downloading the whiteside router bit catalog will help to understand the way to measure a bit.....
I’m just starting, I wish I had a router table. Thank you for the video, something to keep in mind for later use.
Garry not Linda. Go to Izzy Swan's channel. Look for making dowels or easy dowel maker in his older stuff. All you need is a drill and some common shop tools.
You assume he only wants a router table to make dowels. There are LOADS of reasons to own a router table. And while the method Izzy shows works, it is far less precise and requires a lot more sanding. Plus, you still need a router, just not a table.
@@bassrun101 Thank you.
@@StumpyNubs Thank you for the video. I have a trim router and use it a bit. I just got the fence attachment for it and I like using it . I needed to make a slot in some arms I was making and doing it freehand wasn’t working.
What exactly was going on at 3:42? That camera angle was questionable but LOL funny!
lol
Yet another excellent interesting vid!
Thank you stumpy 😊 !!!
Great idea I was tryna figure out a jig but this method is perfect but I’m thinking how that’d work with 1/4” 😮
Another great class at Stumpy School. Keep it up.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
I always appreciate your tips Thanks!
I need to give this a try
"YOU can't sew on what therouter bit takes off" lol least bandsaws n table saws ya get that option thinking about it. Once again love how You always find that extra bit of info that makes ya! Would love to see some more old timey workshop#
Yeah that statement hit me in the feels. So true, and touch wood, the only damage my router ever did to me was the very tip that did grow back. Sometimes it takes that close call to realise what could have happened and make you make damned sure that it doesn't happen again.
Somewhere, down in the chip pile of my jointer, you will find the tip of my right, middle finger!🤯☠️👹 DON’T get lazy! Pay attention to what you’re doing!! I don’t want to go into all the details right now, just know that safety REALLY matters! There are better ways to occupy your time than in the ER!!
Thanks, I always enjoy your short tips videos. Very informative.
Regards,
Dave Janis
This is Amazing! I never would have thought of this!
Thank you!
Dowel plate baby! Just kidding, this is actually very helpful. I’ve never needed a long dowel with an accurate diameter the whole way, usually just at the ends. I’ll keep this in mind for the future!
👍 Great tip! Might suggest a small clamp on fence next to the stock and a long narrow push handle. The add on fence will hold the material against the main fence while pushing it through the router bit. You can still start and stop leaving the square ends even add a stop if wanted. Just a thought.
Thanks James, we appreciate the information you share with us. Great job !! 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻
Nice video
Ever thought on small spindle to twist with drill & passing router for symmetry
Love the storage solution!
Still in a cabinet?
Assuming a door but a nice way to keep bit safe after one is removed from cabinet with the little base.
th-cam.com/video/nT9d5I1UFlM/w-d-xo.html
Very helpful
Years ago I was asked to make a martial arts staff at a particular diameter. It wasn’t a diameter you could get in a router bit. What I did was I used a 45° angle bit and then a 22 1/2° angle bit. You have to get the set up just right, but go from a four sided blank that is as wide as the diameter you want, then turn it into an eight sided blank with a 45° bit, and then turn it into a 16 sided shape with the 22 1/2° bit. Then some 60 grit sandpaper took down the edges and it felt perfectly smooth a d round to my hands.
Thank you for another informative video! I love learning from you and appreciate the Hands-On knowledge! Keep up the great work and the great content!
That is a great method!
Thanks. Nice info.
Great tip! Thanks for sharing !
If i wanted to make a 3/8 dowel what size round over bit would i need?
Great tip, really all your tips are great.. I find your channel to be one of best for me.
thanks...good advice
That's a fantastic tip, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
This is a good alternate way to make dowels. I'll have to check what the biggest bit is I have and try it. Would I be able to make tapered dowels? I've seen several versions of table saw doweling jig and have thought about going that route.
If I'm wanting a 2" dowel.. and have a 2x2 piece of wood what size bit will I need?
Good timing. I have a project that I need 1" dowels for. Thanks!
Very helpful! Thank you.
Awesome as always! Thank you.
Great tutorial. Thanks 😊
If I want to make 1/4 inch dowels, what size roundover bit do I use, 1/4 or 1/8? What about 3/8 dowels? Thanks.
Very cool video indeed thank you
3:42 is the funniest thing I've ever seen today.
I didn't even think of that, but now that I read your comment, I can't unsee it. :-P
I'm glad someone else saw it
Thanks
Really like this one !!
Cheers for sharing your tips. Cant wait to try them out on my new router table :)
Very cool!
Great job, thanks for your videos
Great video! In addition to my work in my blacksmith shop (per the name, find us on facebook) my dad and I have a full wood shop, I had just made a few playing card deck holders out there for a few friends with small dowels as the posts holding the cards in place. This sure would've made the whole affair easier! Will keep in mind for the next ones!
Very nice! Thanks Stumpy...
Good dowels only come from the good wood. “Grain” choose carefully.
"Grain"?
Gday @@BenjaminGoose wood “Grain” is what was meant by that. Things like the direction it runs, how straight it is, how tight of grain is has, knots, does that make it clearer?
Very cool suggestion!
Great thanks.
Thanks for sharing that, well said!
Great Tips👍
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
WoW. TY!
Yet another practical and well thought out video. Your consistently excellent instruction is inspirational. ...but it incites me to buy more tools:)
Great useful video
THANK YOU my dowels always have gouges
super tip, thanks
Good one Jim. That technique wasn’t on my radar screen
QUESTION?
I watch a woodworker on TH-cam who has a Jointer Planer Table saw all in one unit. Have you seen one of these units? I’ve been looking for one and can’t seem to find on, to see how it works.
Can you help me?
greetings stumpy, if i don't have the table for setting the router bits, is there also a practical way to create custom dowels if i got router or forstner bits, say with a drill or impact driver... application ideally similar to log screws in cabin building in connecting every two logs or so, a video would be great, else a response would greatly be appreciated, a new DIYer
Very interesting! Thank you. I might have missed this. But what size of bit should I use? I am trying to make 3/8 inch dowel
great tip!
Would you use any modifications to this technique to make 1/8”, 1/4”, or 3/8” dowels, especially out of exotic wood species?
You could not get a router bit to make a dowel smaller than 1/4.
VERY Nice !
If making 1 inch rounds what router bit is best?
1/2-inch roundover bit