Making Large Dowels WITHOUT a Lathe // Woodworking Jig // Dowel Maker
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I'm going to need some large dowels for an upcoming project, so I decided to experiment with different ways to go about that! This was a really fun experiment... I love that there is always multiple ways to achieve the same goal when woodworking
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Haha 11:58 is so smart! Great video, will have to try some of these methods some day soon. :)
Haha! Yeah! Like a foot powered lathe 😂
Yeah this is awesome
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Can't wait for her to stumble upon the wooden electric drill lathe.
@@3x3CustomTamar Great videos on your page. I wonder if this could be done using the drill press, depends on length of dowel compared to depth you can create with drill press table bottom, but you could attach bottom to a bearing for easy spinning.
Um, that rope through the hole drill trick was damn smart. I mean, the whole vid was great, but that trick surprised me
Haha! Glad you liked it
That rope trick was brilliant
but how do you fix the drill to the dowel?
Yeh this was a great trick. I’ve used a sewing machine peddle in the past, but this rope trick just works so much faster and easier.
Same thing here 👍😃
Wow some of these were completely out of the box and I had never considered before. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome. Glad you liked it
i do this kind of thing for a living , i have been doing it for 42 years , i like your attitude to it , and agree the chisel clamped down is dodgy , it is down to the angle of the chisel ...but i like your router route too
Thanks! Yeah. I don’t want to try that method again. Ha
@@3x3CustomTamar it is basically turning your hand held drill into a lathe ....dodgy lol ;-)
Great video!! And the icing on the cake was that huge beautiful smile at 15:49. 😁
Ha! Thanks! Glad you liked it
Tamar, you are wonderful!!!
Thanks so much ☺️
great vid. nice new ways of doing things. and you gave me a few new ideas for a future project. Thanks for sharing, Tamar 🙂
Awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
Congratulations. Cool. From Brazil.
Thanks!
Very clever, thank you.
Glad you liked it
Very nice love the way you made the Dowels I need to make some iam going to make a jig
Thanks so much! Have fun!
You can also add a stop block to that set up.
Wonderful videos and techniques. I love all your stuff! Congrats!
Thanks so much!
That's really a good dowel making instructions, where can I get that plate with different size dowel making. Thank you very much.
Thanks! Link is in the description 😉
Hi Tamar. A wood lathe would work. Something that holds the wood on each end. Just kidding. Love your videos.
Hahahaha! Thank goodness you were joking. My eyes started bugging out of my head when I started to read this 😂😂😂😂
Tanks..
Your idea...
Very cool.
Do you have a video on that building that folding router guide?
Thanks! Did I use a folding router guide in the video? I do have a video on it though. Ha
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Shawn R ha. Yeah. I have a video on that!
how did you check for roundness?
i honestly think that the table router method isnt the smartest thing to do
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I think you know, but when you use the bevel drill next to the cutting table ruler, you can make the bevel from end to end of the wood.
The thing we did in wood turning lathe up to 2 inch that was good without any scaring
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Thanks!
You don't need a fence if you have a bearing.
Everyone else: square peg in a round hole? Nah impossible
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The "rope through the doghole" foot-trigger is brilliant. Never saw that one before.
Ha! Thanks! Me either. Thought of that one in the fly 😂
Now I want to make a dowel this weekend. I don't need a dowel for anything. But I want to make one 😁
Haha. I know how you feel
Done that, the chisel way, just because, so i haven't tried it since. :-D
I used my hand planes to make two large dowels from off cuts of 2x2s for no particular reason. I have a reason to use them now, but I didn't the other day when I made them.
Great video Tamar! If I had a router table, the roundover bit method would be my choice. You're limited by the size of the bit but it probably requires the least amount of sanding. Well done!
Thanks! Your jig looks super cool too. I was shocked at how easy the roundover bit was. And the quality of cut was amazing. Excited about the possibilities!
I have a lot of old carpenters in my family and I have seen them make a 6 inch or larger diameter column with a circular saw or table saw, a belt sander belt, cut to one very long piece, and a great deal of elbow grease. (Usually supplied by the younger generation who were learning.)
They'd start by gluing up stock to make their rough square column. Then they'd cut the corners, turning the square column into an octagon. They'd cut the corners again leaving sixteen sides. Once more leaving 32 sides, then they would make d-handle clamp blocks to clamp onto the ends of the cut sanding belt, and sand it round.
This method takes time, however it has no upper limit to the size of the dowel / column you can make.
Ok, I might try that. I have 2 X 3 m lengths of hardwood!
From the super-novice, thank you for this. I’ve never even heard of a dowel plate until 2-3 minutes ago, and that looks incredibly useful for all the larger of things I plan on making as first projects. Awesome video 👍🏼
Awesome. Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
You should check out Izzy Swan's video on the table saw method. It would be similar to the router table method and double as a work holder while you sand.
@Don't Poke The Bear So what happens if the bear gets poked
That was my first thought, “just use the table saw” 😎
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I thought I knew a lot about woodworking, but the more I watch your videos, the more I realize I didn't know. Your tips and tricks are not only extremely clever, but also presented in a clear and straightforward way that I really appreciate, and many of them are already making life much easier in my shop. Thank you!
Hitting the stock thro' holes reminded me of my favourite toy as a young kid.
Ha! Yeah. It was fun.
At 8:30 my heart jumped! Your finger was at the router bit when the sped-up sound of the router bit adjustment went off.
Haha! Have no fear. I always unplug the router when changing bits 😂
For small diameter dowels (e.g. for joinery), it is easy to use a thread die and force a wooden block with a drill through the die. The surface is a little bit rough, but several passes with a folded sandpaper solve that. The nominal size of the die should be larger than the expected dowel diameter.
Almost making threaded dowels on the router table.... ;o)
Your content is insanely good. I learn so much, in so short a time, and I really appreciate the rigor that goes into your testing methods. Thanks for your effort!
Scrap piece of ash. Words I've never said :)
Excellent video, thanks!
Ha! It had a big knot and other stuff. So it wasn’t good for the project I purchased it for. But it was good for something! Ha
Emerald ash borer beetle killed off all the ash trees in our region recently. We just burn the stuff now. It's all scrap out here. We pay people to chop it down and take it away. Such a shame.
Hey 3x3 Custom - Tamar, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to demonstrate the different methods of making a dowel. Fortunately for me, the round over bit on the router table will work for my project. Really appreciate your instructions and demonstrations.
I’d guess that a slower feed rate on the router jig would reduce sanding a lot.
could be, I definitely want to play around with it more
@@3x3CustomTamar make a little fence 90 degrees on the edge of the out feed of your router jig and place some adhesive sanding paper on it maybe? You could sand your piece as it comes out. idk, just a thought.
dzfattnutz that could be cool
It is not necessary to buy a dowel plate. One can be made to any size you want though this works for smaller sizes not 2" limited only be the available drill bits. If one has some steel stock it is only necessary to drill a hole through steel plate say 3mm or 6mm thick. Do not clean off the resultant burr as that is the cutting edge. It really is that simple. Drive the timber stock from the burred side. A commercial dowel plate will last longer because it will be made from harder steel but for an occasional run of dowels or if one needs dowels on the fly and a dowel plate is not available this is a good stand by.
Nothing is made from "Harden Steel"!!! It's made from unharden steel and then hardened then tempered then sharpened!!!
I tried the 'old school' chisel method (large pencil sharpener) and found it a bit hit and miss. It did what I wanted but was a bit rough. Thanx for video.
Glad you liked it
Use your table saw with a dowel jig it's much easier and better finish
Your videos are amazing. I'm sitting here this week trying to figure out how to make walnut dowling, and this pops up!
Sincerely, A Rookie Canadian Lady Woodworker
Ha! Love it when that happens! Glad I posted this at the right time!
@0:50 is taht a knife from Finland? looks very Lapland'ish to me....
You can clamp a couple of “hoops” downrange to shepherd the spindle in its proper axis. It cuts down on whip. I’ve done this with a very long spindle myself, but I used a block plane. It was a lot like your chisel method, but the entry hole I fashioned was cone-like. I got a glass smooth finish, but I was using a wood that was a very good citizen. It wasn’t ash. 😆
For the chisel method... Just tell your friends that you tried to hire beavers for it. And that it didn't work out. The beavers will never know about the shade.
Using the round over bit made a really nice looking column
That was my favorite
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I thought using your router to make a dowel was quite innovative. I wonder if you had a second piece of wood with a hole, if it would add some stability to the wood once it goes out of the router. When you were pushing the wood through it the end of it look very wobbly. And also thank you for showing me a dowel making jig. I can't believe how easy it was just to hammer a piece of wood through a hole to make a dowel.
That would probably be a good fix. It was definitely wobbly. And yeah. That dowel plate is awesome
Very interesting video. Always wondered how I could make dowels to fill holes that matched the wood I was using and now I know. As a note I clicked on your link in the description for the Dowel Plate and it did not take me to the item on Amazon.
Thanks for letting me know!! I’ll fix it ASAP. That little dowel plate is so fun to use.
Fixed!!
@@3x3CustomTamar Excellent! And I see that this item actually ships to Canada. Now, to trick my wife into letting me get it :)
@@3x3CustomTamar Ok, weird tried clicking the link again and still does not take me to the item on Amazon. Even tried searching Amazon with fewer of the words and did not find it. Searched "Dowel Plate" on Google and one of the results is the Dowel Plate on Amazon with the exact same description as what your link is looking for. Computers are weird. Also tried clicking all your links and the Hold Fasts do not come up either. Maybe it is just me
I'm Stumped hmmm maybe it’s a Canada/US thing? If you’re on Instagram you can check out @dfmtoolworks. He’s the guy that makes those
Thanks for sharing your experiences. It is very educational
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
I make my dowels and baseball bats without a lathe. I use a hammer, axe head, knife and sand paper.
I had no idea where you were going with that third method. It's genius. Did you make that up or read about it first?
Hah thanks! Probably a conglomeration of things I saw and things I made up 🤷🏻♀️
She has everything except a lathe
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Not true cos you have a lathe ? Or not true cos you dont have everything 😁
Stephen Leacock not true. I don’t have have everything. Ha I need a jointer! And a good bandsaw!! Haha!
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Tamar, thanks for a great video. I'm new to woodworking, and this is the first I've seen on making dowels. I had no idea that it could be done in so many different ways. It seems that the rounder over bit would be the way to go. Also, thanks for not feeling like you have to wear a pair of short shorts or low cut tank top to get people to watch. 42,179 views in two days based on good content. Way to go!!!
Glad you liked it! There are different ways to do everything in woodworking!! Just gotta figure out what works Nealy for you using the tools you have. There’s no right way! And yeah. I wish I didn’t even have to show myself at all. My channel is about my work. Not me.
Try a shave horse and draw knife, finish with a spoke shave. Making the shave horse is a fun project as well, and has a lot of great applications.
Shave horses are how bodgers made spindles for Windsor chairs.
I hope to build one one day. I have a draw knife. But I bought the cheapest one on amazon. It’s as sharp as rock. Need to put some time into either sharpening it or getting a better one. Ha
@@3x3CustomTamar what brand of draw knife did you get? Mine shipped dull, and I had to sharpen it myself. If building a shave horse is something you are interested in building I would gladly share my experience with you in detail. But the basic story is that I purchased an old hatchet head at a garage sale, and wanted to make a handle... I subsequently learned about shave horses and their history... Went into the forest, cut down a tree and crafted the entire thing from scratch. It was an amazing experience. Now I re-handle all my friends axes and tools for them.
Sebastian Ragheb that’s awesome. I realized that I wanted one when making spoon handles. I’ll get around to it one day
@@3x3CustomTamar spoon carving is an amazing art form! But spoon carving knives are also super Sketchy to use. I have a friend that does spoon carving as a trade, he has a lot of scars on his hands! I think the charcoal burning method is the safest, and what I have done in the past..
I believe this girl is into dowelism. :0.
Hi. Do you have any tutorial on making a wood screw for a workbench?
isnt the last part basically a lathe, anyways?
Yup. Without having to purchase one
You are really smart and skilled. I absolutely love youtube so I can see things like this thanks
My elementary school teachers would laugh at that... ha. Thanks!
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Before I got my lathe I would do things this way. However I still sand dowels by pounding a socket on the end. Electrical tape helps hold it together if sockets and extensions are loose. (Your other hand is free for sanding) But while you're teaching yourself a strategy, you'll pick up 3 more in the process. You can also use hole saws to turn your pieces, as long as they are similar diameter. And if you cut the top of your hole saws out, and mount it good, that would cut dowels as well. What the hell, go buy yourself a wood lathe. They are so much fun! Oh, and most hole saws are not near long enough!! So...... Why couldn't somebody buy steel pipe? Cut teeth on one end, and screw a cap on the other with say....⅝" nut welded on top? This person could take 40 grit sandpaper and thin the pipe walls above the teeth (reducing friction) this person could make it 6" or even 12". She could even post it on her own channel and show us how it works😁
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Take a look at a table saw lathe jig. They can make dowels fast and easily change sizes.
Yeah, Izzy Swan posted another video on it a few months back. He's been using some variation on a table saw jig for it for many years.
I saw a video of another woodworker using a similar method to your router setup.
He basically had a crosscut sled with high vertical end pieces. Then he had something attached to one end acting as a point on some sort of bearing holding the far end of the work piece. And then he attached a cordless drill on the other end of the work piece just as you did to spin it. Then he just turned on the table saw and pushed the sled over the blade. It looked like it worked incredibly well.
Was that Michael Alms video?
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I don't recall. I did a search to try to cite the proper video after I commented, but I didn't find the one that I had originally seen. There are lots of others that use the same general method, but the first one I stumbled on seemed far superior in every respect. Can't seem to find it now though.
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I think the chisel method will produce the best finish and require little sanding if the angles are set correctly and possibly adding a second one to bring close to size and one to finish it. It would take some trials to figure out though.
Another idea that would eliminate the issues that caused you to not like the method, would be to get a 3/8 or 1/2 high speed tool blank. They are usually used on metal lathes. Then make a matching square hole in the side of the wood block at the angle you want the cutter to sit. You can use a wedge or a set screw to hold the HSS bit. You can grind various profiles in the end of the bit to ease the rounding of the wood dowel.
I have made 5in diameter cylinders on the table saw as well by drilling a 3/4in hole through a log, clamping two blocks at the ends of the table saw that are at least the cylinder radius plus the corners to be cut off high (in my case there were no corners), sliding the log over a steel pipe and clamping it to the blocks over the blade, and spinning it by hand raising the blade for each pass of 1/8 or so. The finish is ok, not taking too much sanding, and you can do any size easily by blade height and block size. It cuts faster than might be apparent because you can let the blade cutting forces spin it, and just keep enough pressure on it to keep it moving slowly. Putting the pipe at a 10-20 angle to the blade helps too.
To do it without any machine tools. Just use an old ancient archers shooting board and a small hand plane. Finish with sandpaper and grooved block. Very quick and surprisingly easy.
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thank you for the cool video, I like how you explore and work through various methods to accomplish each task/jig. I have a question regarding the dowel plate. I see this plate is made with A2 steel so it should hold the sharpness for a good while, but how many hardwood dowels do you think it will make? And can it be sharpened. Thanks again.
Clever working, but I want to make a round railing from 75 X 75 X 3000 mm aged hardwood, weight 1000 kg/ M3. Sorry we're metric in Australia. I only have a circular saw and saw horses. Can I do it?
Tamar loved the rope trick on the drill that was cool. did you see Drew Fisher‘s Beads of courage box build?
Thanks! I didn’t. I’ll check it out
Wow. Very cool. Need a new handle for a Morgan 20A vise. 1" a little tight. Sanding method pretty cool.
Hi yet another good vid. I'm in the trade and you are teaching look at things in a different way. With the router table way you can push the timber all the way through without wasting the ends, it may rattle on the very last bit of the last cut.
Glad you liked it. I’m always extra cautious around the router table
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Some nice demonstrations there. I wouldn't give up too quickly on the mounted-chisel method. I know from experience that the results (with regard to smoothness and tear-out) are very sensitive to position and angle of the chisel. A small change can make a big difference.
Here's another effective method: using a draw-knife, followed by a spoke shave at a shaving horse. For greater accuracy you can make a template as a half-round cutout in the side of a piece of cardboard (or aluminum flashing, or vinyl siding) to test the roundness when you begin getting close.
I wonder if it's possible to use a drill press as a vertical lathe? Swap out the chuck for a drive spur, attach a tail stock and a tool rest to the post?
I just happen to own a 3/4" roundover bit, so I guess I could make 1-1/2" dowels on my router table. I might tip down a bit of 2x4 and give that a try tomorrow.
I love your experimentation .
Thats the way i do things.
The one with the router bit inside the the block has potential. The router is doing all the work so a much slower and gentler feed rate should produce a better dowel. Maybe slow the drill down.
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Easiest and laziest method for dowels. Take thread cutting die 16 mm and clamp it well. Take piece of wood about 16mm diameter. Chamfer it and fix it into your drill. Insert another end of your wood piece into the die and pull the trigger. Vrrrroooommmm! Done. You’ve got dowel. Dowel diameter will be equal to internal diameter of the die. For instance 16 mm die will give you approx 13mm dowel. And so on. Sanding is optional, if surface is not sanded, it’s even better for gluing .
Try using some replacement/old planer blades. And screw them down using a metal backing bracket . Right angles and screws will give you sufficient clamping action. And try mounting the blade at an angle so the dowl will start cutting at the max depth first and work. Into the minimum depth! If you cut or make the big whole piece of timber from 2 seperate sides and use bolts in the base and roof you could adjust the size ratio of the dowls.!🤔
very nice! Thumbs up! I am doing a model (very small) and am having problems in cut the sticks to cover this fusiform shape. Any tips?Anyone?
i need shave 4x4x6 to 2.5 Diameter first 12 inch.
I have table saw. no other tool.
Do you have solution to my problem?
you have a way to do it?
Haha. I like the "if this were a real project" line. Of course if it were your second real project you'd have marked the points to route to but it's not a real project if you don't do it wrong the first time... And, if it were a real project, you'd stop in the middle and drive to Home Depot - at least twice..
But what a great video. For me without even a shop, let alone a lathe, these ideas are going to help me make some great custom dowels and thread them differently on the ends of the same dowel... Ok, probably won't help me make great dowels but it will help me make some functional, serviceable, dowel projects. I'll let you know about "great" in 5 or 10 years.
The old way was to take a 2x2 about 2 foot long then you cut 3 square blocks.
Say you want a 11/32 dowel/Arrow shaft.
You drill that hole exactly in the center
Then you put an 11/32 shaft through the blocks a and glue them in place,....one on the end,.....5 inches away another and 2 inches away another.
with the shaft still in it you will clamp it on your router table till the bit touches the shaft.
then you drill the first hole out to the diameter of the square.
You will also find a socket that matches your square wood and chuck it in a drill and run it through.
Thanks for a great video! I landed here while searching for "cutting wood dowel at 3d angles" :)
I have a bar stool with round dowel-like legs. The legs are cut on the bottom (feet) such that the cut is perpendicular to the dowel axis, which makes the cuts not parallel to the floor. Do you have any advice on how to cut the legs to be parallel to the floor? I think it might involve cutting at 2 angles in 3-D but I'm looking for ideas and advice. One way might be to clamp the chair so that the seat is vertical (aligned with a level) then have a mitre saw cut a straight cut (no bevel, no mitre).
Interesting, but.... spend a few hundred and get a used lathe, instead... :-D
I am always interested in alternatives, but these all seem needlessly labor intensive and very specialty (i.e., different time-consuming setups for different sizes) oriented.
Yes, I grasp, not everyone has a lot of extra money for tools, but ... sometimes there is a reason for the tool to exist. ;-)
Not bad for a girl!😎 Actually you did darn fine with the filming, the variable tryouts and the explanations. There is another way. Using the table saw. You can find several videos on that topic with some being better than others. Cheers!
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There really needs to be better sources for round stock. While this is pretty ingenious of Tamar and I enjoyed watching it, we're essentially just talking about round stock of a species of wood, and it would be great if hardwood mills started making this stuff so woodworkers didn't have to design crazy jigs or have monstrous lathes sitting around.
Thanks for all these ideas. I'd seen the chisel one before, and suspect your results are due to the way you're having to push on the drill to keep it in contact with the screw. If you could spin the wood without pushing it through the jig at high speed it would make a far cleaner cut. For example, if you cut the head off a half-screwed-in lag screw then you could grip the lag screw shaft in the drill chuck and while it spins rapidly, you could push it through the jig slowly.
Jack the car up take off the drive wheel attack the tree trunk to the wheel hub start the car in drive low speed. Ok not you've got a variable speed lathe.
Im just joking.
You'll need a manul drive car with 5 gears.
Save your old or broken jig saw blades, embed two in channels on either side of a hole and hold down with screws, clamp it down, and drill a dowel.
I've used this method for years on various custom sized dowels. Fine tooth blades make the cleanest dowels, but are also the slowest to cut.
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You really need some sort of outfeed stabilization to keep your dowel from hopping around like it does. That's why your end result coming out of the cutteer is so rough. I also wouldn't show the things that scare you like the last cut on this vid. There's a lot of idiots out thee that don't have the experience that you and I have, and they don't know shit... they're gonna get hurt.
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Great video and tips on making dowels. You could have also used a Hollow Auger Dowel Cutter.