Interesting to hear your perspectives Matt, and I agree that it is more a health tracker than a fitness tracker. I would recommend it for tracking your general health and sleep patterns, but if you care most about workouts you need to add a chest strap or fitness watch. Great video again, and amazing close-up of the ring. Also, thanks for the shoutout😊!
Yeah, I think you're right. I've added a link to your channel in the description and a card where I mention your channel. I'll be watching closely when they update the sleep algorithm to see your thoughts. 🤞🏻
@@TheQuantifiedScientist would you please consider reviewing the Gen 3 again in light of the new sleep algorithm that you were promoting and supporting a year ago when I watched your video about it and that influenced me to actually buy it? I think you're kind of obligated now to review it don't you think now that it's released? I really want to know what your data finds about its accuracy especially compared to other devices. I mean if you feel like it's accurate that I will accept that it is cutting my deep sleep in half and taking an hour off my nightly sleep even though I've done nothing different whatsoever. But I suspect that it's bogus. Even you were saying that deep sleep accuracy was not good and that they were putting too much on light sleep. Now they are trying to push that everyone accept that they have much more light sleep than they even had before and much less deep sleep. I'm talking way less than an hour. When I had over 2 hours before after changing so many behaviors that affect sleep. I just don't believe it. Please help us sir!
I purchased the Oura 2 in July 2021...at the end of October they offered those of us that already had the ring a $100 discount off the Oura 3 plus free lifetime subscription. I only had my ring for 3 months at that point and despite the discount, couldn't justify dropping 200 on a new one. I figured I would pass on the offer and wait until I needed another to upgrade. Of course, I lost the ring right after the cutoff date for the offer on the new ring, so I ordered the Oura 3 a couple of weeks ago. I paid zero attention to the subscription part because I wasn't paying for one originally, so when I heard about the subscription for the Oura 3 I assumed it was for extra stuff, like community access, newer features, etc. Nope, if you don't pay for the subscription, you literally get no info of value. They show you your 3 scores and that's it, none of the data behind any of it. AND they shortened the warranty from 2 years to 1. I cancelled the order the second I found out about it. That's just greedy bullshit. I could understand withholding some stuff for people willing to pay, but they literally hold your basic stats hostage from you. Really disappointing because I like the ring. But eff that.
Thanks for posting about your experience Beth! 100% agree. I think this company is in a bad spot right now and I do like the product. Hopefully they figure out how to make it reasonable. 🤷🏻♂️
@@qstorm76 I explained fully in my post why I passed on it. I had just purchased my ring, so it made no sense to pay $250 for another one, and when they offered the lifetime subscription they didn't say "by the way, without the subscription, you basically can't access anything at all" I only wanted the basic info behind my scores, I wasn't interested in all the new stuff they were adding. Plus they shortened the warranty from 2 years to 1 year and I keep reading about some users having problems with the ring after a year. So when my 2nd ring stops working I have to buy ANOTHER one at some point, plus pay for a subscription?? Like I said eff that ...they need to get their shit straight.
@@Beth-pf6ooso, when offered a free lifetime subscription to a service, you assume its contents rather than researching it to see what you’d miss out on?
I'm extremely disappointed. I've wanted one for a few years and my wife finally got one for me for Christmas. I didn't know about the subscription and it's not something that I'm interested in, so now my wifes is also going to be disappointed because she got me a gift that she was very excited about. Tired of these companies sucking as much money from their customers as possible.
Sorry buddy. This was my situation as well. Excited about the product but couldn't stand the pricing model. Gifting is tricky but maybe you can use that money towards some other fitness/health tracker 🤷♂️
In order to be sustainable a company needs to have an on-going revenue stream and the subscription allows them to stay in business. Good products and services and continuing app development cost money. There is no free ride buddies !!
I had been seriously considering getting one of these... The change in subscription service and customer service both sound not well thought out or put into practice. Appreciate the honest info
Yeah, I'd be hesitant. You could always wait and see if they implement all of the things they've promised with this device and then reevaluate. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
The ring is a very interesting concept. But the monthly membership was a dealbreaker for me. My own data shouldn’t be locked behind a paywall. Right now I’m waiting for the Circular Ring to release, I hope it will be what they are promising 🙏
I would love to test that Circular Ring. I reached out to them but haven't heard back. 🤞 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Same here, I pre-ordered the Circular instead of the Oura ring because of the subscription. I'm not paying for the hardware + access to my own data (while they probably even make money from selling peoples statistics to 3rd parties) Also I've heard a lot of bad things about their customer service lately. I think they're digging their own grave and it just takes one good competitor to knock them out. I hope it'll be Circular
@@all6senses - I really hope I can get one of these to review. Let me know what you think of it. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video. I love my SWIM BIKE RUN RINSE REPEAT shirt. Naturally I ordered the orange. When your video alert popped up on my watch, my wife and I were driving. I told my wife “Matt’s gonna say x,y and z”. And she didn’t fully believe me. The video was great you filled all the little details and we both enjoyed the video. But after it she gave me that look only one’s wife can “NO (you are not buying that)”
Great video helped me make my mind up. Sounds like their support tells you everything you need to know about the product. Thanks for the honest review.
Glad it was helpful. I do like the idea of this device. I really hope things turn around because I'd be happy to try it again in the future. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I really appreciate the review man, you gave me all the information I was looking for without overloading me with unnecessary statistics and facts. I am definitely subscribing, keep delivering quality videos and updates on this company and its products. Also: the music at 11:36 goes hard no cap.
Oh thanks so much Christian! Yeah, I always try to make the editing fun on these video. I *think* I can get better at it with more practice. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I've used the Ring 3.0 since February and love it. I do also have the Apple Watch for the data that comes from the Ring. I bought the Ring to track my sleep and it has definitely improved my sleep. Decide for yourself what you expect to get out of it. I am keeping my Ring.
Good point Dolores! It’s a solid device but I’m not a huge fan of their current pricing model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I love love love my ring! It tracks everything I need as a 71yo female, not a power trainer. It helps me to monitor my sleep and walking. Also, I know why I feel “off” and can take it a little easier on days when readiness is low. I recommend the Oura ring for mothers/Father’s Day and pay the monthly fee too. Parents, grandparents would get great benefit from it. I’ve had the older model since 1919 and feel naked without it. I do not like a watch, too scratchy and annoying. Love my Oura ring!
This video has helped me make my mind up about purchasing an Oura ring, I'm currently a whoop customer but didn't want to opt into another 12/18 month subscription for something that is ok for some things and not for others..... Thanks again for your honest opinion 👍
You are very welcome Slates Tri! Let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll try to help. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I wouldn’t trust the heart rate data when swimming but my main concern was it falling off and that wasn’t an issue for me. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thank you for this, it's making me think hard! I wanted it to monitor my sleep but object to paying the subscription just to find out the breakdown. Might wait for the circular ring....
@@mlegrand #FakeNews - this video was totally excellent and completely on point. You really covered the broad swath of issues, features, and benefits, and I actually loved the more detailed honesty and specificity you shared because I feel like it gives viewers a lot more clarity on buying decisions
I love my Oura ring! So much more comfortable than smart watches/bands, especially to wear in your sleep. Plus it tackles a more holistic and wellness approach compared to other smart devices, which is better for activity. So since that is my priority, this is just so perfect for me. Another thing is it detects illness before you can feel anything. The cycle tracker is super helpful too! With all that, I don't even mind the the subscription anymore. You can actually get protection for your ring from OSleeve too.
It is my first time on your channel but I enjoyed and appreciated your honest review. I’ve been looking at the Oura ring for quite some time now and I cannot seem to make up my mind… I currently own an Apple Watch to track my fitness and overall daily activity. But I am a classic wristwatch guy… I miss my mechanical timepieces, however, I do enjoy looking at my daily steps and other stats. It is a great way to hold myself accountable. I am thinking about purchasing this ring so that I can wear a traditional watch…. I would still use my Apple Watch to track my workouts. I might just wait until every feature is available and watch reviews to make my final decision. Sorry for going on and on. Great content Matt, keep up the great work!
Thanks for checking out the channel. I really like this idea of waiting to see if the other features ever come around. I am hoping to check out some of the Oura ring competitors to see if something else might work. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have found that there is definately a difference in customer support than when Oura first started. And, that difference is not for the better. For example, I bought a replacement charger that broke within 3 months. I requested a new charger and recieved a message asking for details. I sent the details and recieved an email indicating I was eligible for an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0. Hmm.... The problem is ... I already have the 3.0 but still use the 2.0 because not all the fuctions for the the 3.0 has been implemented. So, why waste the batterly life of the 3.0? It has been 2 weeks and I have gotten no response to my warranty replacement battery charger request. Instead, I am using the 3.0 charger and would unable to use of the Oura Ring 2.0 without the previous 3.0 purchase. I get the feeling that 2.0 owners are being pushed to the side. But, it could be worse. You could be a NEW (i.e., no previous ownership of an Oura Ring) and have the privilege of buying the 3.0 ring so they can then charge you a monthly subscription to effectively use what you bought. It appears Oura went from the best business model to the worse business model of ALL devices of this type. Unless your product has a dominant monopoly-like market presense, the chance of subscription model actually adding to growth is limited and likely to fail in the long term.
Hey Joe, interesting to hear your experience. Yeah, this was my first time trying Oura. The concept seems great. I just hope they figure everything out and reverse the membership fees. We’ll see 🤷🏻♂️
I’m returning mine too. Mine stopped working randomly within the first month. It’s been 5 days and they still haven’t responded to my support request. For the price, I can’t justify putting up with such poor customer service.
Oh man, that sounds worse than my experience. 😬 Getting a response seems to take forever from them. I just have this bad feeling that this company is in a world of hurt right now. 🤷♂️ Keep me posted on how things workout and best of luck BellyDanza85!
Thanks Matt! Ordered, used for a few weeks, and then returned my Oura 3.0 specifically due to the monthly subscription. Seems somewhat counterintuitive to pay for one's own health data. Especially when, in my case, I wear the latest Apple Watch and can get similar health & sleep data at no additional cost. Thus, had it not been for the monthly subscription I might have kept the ring.
Yeah, I'm right with you Don. If it wasn't for that subscription I'd be a big fan I think. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have owned the Gen 3 now for a year plus. I can report just as many negative as positive experiences. On the positive side it did help me move my sleep back much earlier and understand more deeply the impact my health behaviors have on my actual health. On the other hand just wow. Customer service regularly sucks and is only available through email. Feature releases come long after they are promised and come with a host of problems. For example the O2 feature completely crashed the battery and took multiple releases and firmware updates to stabilize it. I don't use it now. After a year my battery wasn't working properly and I had to get a whole new ring. That took a while to actually convince them that my ring was the problem and not just their software which as I said is always faulty. Now they have released the long awaited sleep algorithm upgrade and let me just tell you it absolutely sucks. They are literally punishing people who are older with lower HRV scores that are actually typical for our age. I am in my late '50s in excellent health at normal weight exercising regularly. I also do a lot of other things to increase my HRV such as blue light blockers and mouth tape and smaller evening meals with significant intermittent fasting etc. With the new algorithm, my deep sleep is immediately cut in half and an hour is cut off my sleep every night. Again I don't think this is anything new in terms of what they are measuring but they are just deducting sleep time and deep sleep time based on my HRV score. It is stupid, cheap, and just so dumb. This will probably be the deal breaker for me. I am shopping for other smart rings at this point. And yes the subscription is basically lying to their base selling the ring initially as a lifetime free subscription but then changing their terms later. I was lucky enough to get in with the last batch of lifers but I still empathize and understand that others don't want to pay the subscription for their own data. I think it's a crime for any company to do that. So I'm pretty sad now because I really wanted this ring to work. And like I said it has helped me in some ways. It is just far far from perfect. What other rings out there are people using that are quality? What do you think of this new Ringconn? Ultrahuman?
Hey Phoenix, thanks so much for the feedback. This is great! I'll try to review Ringconn and Ultrahuman and we'll hope for better. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Update: The V3 gold is now $449 and all rings ordered after Oct. 2021 only comes with a 1-month free subscription. The subscription is honestly the worst part. I'd pay $400 for it, but my stats should be accessible outside a paywall. The menstrual tracker does interest me but to many promises and no results.
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍 it’s an interesting product I’m just not a fan of that membership fee.
Very true and I'm guilty of it as well. Not coffee so much but my kids are all into streaming shows. I'd say, I'm just tired of being subscribed to death and this was one more subscriptions service I couldn't justify to myself. I also get all of these metrics without a subscription from other devices like an Apple or Garmin watch. Thanks so much for posting this. It's good feedback.
Fabulous thumbnail, Matt. I wore three ŌURA Rings to bed last night and the Circular Ring. I am still thinking about which one will be returned... I quite enjoy the ŌURA Ring 2.0 for it is free every month :)
I have a Generation2 Ring and I am just using it for tracking sleep. I think rob/ The quantified Scientist also mentioned, that the bedtime and sleeptime is pretty acurate. In my opionion the only two things I can directly influence (when do I get to bed and how fast do I sleep (meditation e.g.)). Combinded with HRV and temperature over night I am fully satisfied to see my rest level and sleep quality. The payment modell of the gen3 ring is a no buy argument for me. I don't like this kind of cost structure.
I’m with you Alex. I’m just not a fan of the subscription model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great review. I have been waiting for the ring to actually measure HR while working out. Also, have been waiting to see it measure SpO2 but have not yet seen his function available.+ I do appreciate the device as a health monitor, but will stick with my Garmin device for accurate workout information.
Yeah, that's been my thoughts also. I really did like the device. It just feels like the marketing has been over promising while the product is under delivering and charging a monthly fee. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I purchased the gen3 ring since my gen2 battery died. I asked multiple times for Oura support to confirm that I would not be charged a monthly fee and received that confirmation in some very confusing responses from their pathetic support team. But just this morning I looked in the app my accout area and it states 156 left in your trial membership! So the ring is going back. No way am I paying a monthly fee. Also would like to note that I wore my Oura ring and Fitbit together for 3 years and always trusted my sleep tracking from my Fitbit over my Oura ring. Oura always gave at least an hour or more deep sleep than my Fitbit for example 2.5 hrs deep on Oura and 1.5 by Fitbit. I had 2 professional sleep studies done over this period that were in line to my Fitbit, not Oura.
Yeah, it’s interesting, Fitbit does pretty well with its sleep stages algorithm. Oura has promised an improved sleep tracking algorithm but I’m not sure what’s taking them so long to implement. 🤷🏻♂️ So sorry you’ve had a hard time with the 3.0. I hope the return process goes smoothly for you. Let me know how everything ends up.
I’ve reviewed a few other options here on my channel. The UltraHuman Air ring and the RinConn. Both don’t have the subscription model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks for the kind words Erwin! Keep me posted on what you do. I'm going to check out a ring from ultrahuman next. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
More to comment on this but I returned my ring and they received it on 12/23, and I did not get my refund until the first or second week of February after six or seven follow up attempts
@@mlegrand Yes I think so, and it was surprising to me because I thought there was so much hype around the 3.0 that they would have had, and I know that they had, a lot of initial sales, which to me would mean that they had money to hire people - and the opposite felt true.
@@mlegrand In the end I felt like it was more of a sleep only device, that you just get your recovery in the morning, your sleep analytics, and your sleep score, but that’s about the only value I felt.
Thanks for this great review, Matt! I've always been intrigued by the Oura Ring but never got around to doing any research on it. I don't need a health tracker (at the moment), I do have an activity track in my Garmin, and sure don't need another subscription lol!
I'd love to learn more about the Circular Ring. 🤷♂️ I'll reach out to them and see if they're interested in a review or something. Keep me posted on what you think. 👍
"Oura selling your data back to you" triggered me, actually. I think I'll cancel my order. The idea of a subscription model to get data back that is being collected by the device I paid a premium for - very disturbing. I knew there was a subscription but I thought it was for more fancy things.
I agree. It’s a disturbing trend. I do like the ring and I’d love for a company to do something similar with a different payment model but this company seems to be struggling right now. Let me know how canceling your order goes. I’ve found customer service to be pretty slow. 😬
@@mlegrand so I decided to shoot them an email to cancel the order even though the sizing kit is on its way still but they replied to my email basically immediately and cancelled the order. Will report back when I get the refund Edit: just got the refund as well!
@@loganrossignol - Oh that's much faster than my experience. I think it took them 4-5 weeks to get me my refund. I kind of want to explore some other ring alternatives but we'll see. 🤷♂️
In order to be sustainable a company needs to have an on-going revenue stream and the subscription allows them to stay in business. Good products and services and continuing app development cost money. There is no free ride buddies !! This is a high quality product from a high quality company.
I disagree. If subscriptions were the only way companies could survive companies like Garmin wouldn’t exist. Subscription services like this are a new trend. And one I detest. 😒 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand Garmin software is horrible so I would rather pay and have good quality continually updated and supported software - there is no free ride buddy !!
Yeah, I think I'd love it if it didn't have the membership fee and didn't over promise and under deliver on features. It's a cool product but I'm worried that the company might be in a tough spot right now. Hope all is well buddy!
I missed the special for the lifetime membership as an Oura 2 owner. I contacted them 1 month later to see if they will willing to make an exception, and they refused. I guess they were betting that i would buy one anyways. They guessed wrong, don't get me wrong, i love my Oura ring as a sleep tracker, but that's all it is, lets be honest. I'm not quite ready to spend an additional 6$ per month, especially after the review by TQS.
Yeah, I love Rob’s videos. The Oura company is interesting, it feels like they to make some major changes to try to ‘right the ship’ over there. Things seem out of control. It’s a great concept so I do hope it works out for them in the future. I’d love to test future iterations of this device. 🤷🏻♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I'm looking forward to this as I felt blackmailed into buying mine but still haven't told them what size I want and could theoretically ask for a refund. I very much like the 2 but am sceptical about the blood oxygen sensor since it kills the battery on my Garmin Fenix.
I could be wrong but last I checked SPo2 wasn’t working ‘yet’. There’s a lot of features not currently functional on this product. I’d double check to make sure you’re eligible to return the ring because the return process did take me a while. 🤦♂️
Was planning to buy the ring for myself, my wife and our parents and siblings,, but changed my mind after they introduced the idea of subscription ,,, I do not do well with subscription based services,, prefer to pay once
Great review. Thinking about getting one, happy to hear refunds is possible! I don't mind a small monthly fee if that means you get more updates and better development. After a sale is done the company dont have any reason to keep updating the device or app if they only get money from the sale. In my book $6 is way better than what Fitbit does with there subscription.
Very true. Since posting this video Oura has announced that they’ll be releasing heart rate during running and cycling workouts. So they’re slowly getting there. Let me know what you think if you end up with one. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video! So i have the Whoop and their roll out for 4.0 was terrible, for arguably a lower quality device. I was curious about this device, but now not so much. Thanks!
Yeah, it's an interesting device. I think it'd be a competitive product to Whoop at a lower monthly rate I'm just not sure if they're going to ever fulfill all of these product promises. We'll see. I really wish Wahoo would keep cranking on some health tracking metrics within their Rival watch.
@@mlegrand agreed, i really like wahoo, and actually bought their watch on the promised features to come. However they delivered. The bugs have all been worked out, they just added a drills mode for swimming so really sleep metrics would be the last feature needed IMO. 🤷🏼♂️
Thank you for this! I mostly want health metrics to keep an eye on my Long Covid symptoms and numbers - definitely not into fitness at the moment. But, the cost plus membership you mentioned is leading to just hope the new Apple watch comes out next month. I do not have any wearables right now…..
Apple Watch Series 8 will probably come out in October. I really hope that you feel better. Long Covid is so scary but we're also just now learning about it and I'm optimistic that we'll find ways to help. Take care, Matt
It doesn't monitor the heart rate while your working out. Also sleep cycle is also is another concern where if your not sleeping but still relaxing it recording as your sleeping. So I believe both needs to be updated with new algorithm
I ordered mine and now after watching this video I feel kind of ripped off because on the site it says that it can track your steps but apparently It does not.now I feel scammed because my whole point of getting it is to count my steps while still being able to wear my dads watch
I think it does count steps right? Maybe you could try it for 2 weeks and see what you think? I did eventually receive a refund when I returned mine. Keep me posted on what you figure out and thanks so much for watching.
Interesting video topic. Not that it was your intent, but you've certainly not sold me on this. Frankly, I've got no place for a wearable that pretty much only tells me what my general health condition is. Where, admittedly, I haven't got any device that is capable of doing so, I'd be more inclined to drop that sort of money on a sports watch that, conveniently, can also give me a fairly decent amount of data on my general health... and tell me how fast I'm going on my bike. Great videography, yet again, in this one! Keep on keepin' on!
Yeah, that’s one thing that I didn’t mention. Spending this kind of money on a sports watch would get you a nice piece of hardware with similar features and a lot more features. Thanks buddy!
You've been killing the drone shots! The amount of tech they fit in the ring is absolutely incredible. I watched a video about heart rate. The lowest 10% of resting heart rate men are sub 54bpm, which you qualify for! The top 1%? Sub 46, which you're....so close! But you aren't a 1%er!!! Oh! What Iphne do you use!? I need to get a new phone to work a newer drone.... You are really intune with what people are looking for! Great job. ROB IS AWESOME! He makes me laugh. And all his data shows "all the fitness watches are bad at tracking data!" It makes me question "Should I even bother getting a fancier/more expensive watch?" How do YOU use daily readiness scores (whether it be body battery or any other type of figure that tells you recovery)? That is a sweet charging set up and one hour is right quick! Ha! "the bleeding doesn't stop." HA! "I don't like subscriptions....but subscribe to this channel!!!" Not related to the ring, but power meters....one arm, twoarms, or no arms!? XOXO
Ok, as for power meters . . . I typically recommend single sided to save money. Triathletes will typically see very similar right/left balance because they aren't really spiking power and tend to hold nice steady low wattage. You might see very different values when say . . . mountain biking. You might consider a duel sided pedal option that you can easily switch between bikes. Don't know. They're pricey. 🤷🏻♂️ I do believe that a power meter on your upcoming summer race would be helpful. I'd suggest using it almost like a governor to encourage you to keep the spikes and wattage down for the first 50 miles or so.
@@mlegrand Hadn't thought of the "governor" approach. Turns out triathletes are good for ideas after all!!! Thanks for taking the time to write to me, I feel like a celebrity.
Great video as always Matt - and great analysis / overview. I'm curious about who they think their target market is. Athletes will want data and screens and anyone willing to pay that much money for a good looking wearable that gives them general health data probably already has an Apple watch.
I think this is a premium health tracker product that might be aimed at a very similar market that might also have an iphone. Maybe people who like to charge their watch at night and still want sleep data? 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand I am thinking of buying it, as the Apple Watch is kinda annoying me as it provides me with to much notifications and charging every day. And for regular day tracking, it sounds amazing. For sports I might still use the Apple Watch or something similar.
@@jimyape6404 - If you end up buying, let me know what you think. Like I said in this video, I think it's a cool product. I wasn't pumped about the pricing but there is value to it. I do think it works really well with the Apple watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Total bait and switch. My wife bought one and it was great. She buys me the new one (Gen 3) for $350, 6 months later they shut off access to all the data and want $6/month for the rest of my life to get access to it. That’s crazy! Generation 1 & 2 didn’t do that. Anyone who bought those first two models don’t have to pay anything. We asked them for our money back, this is absurd.
Yeah, I think the subscription stuff is what turned me off about the device. Otherwise, I liked it. Thanks for your feedback Arroyo. I think it'll help others considering this device.
I guess some like the idea of just having a ring but then again, there's so much of functionality that is missing so you'd still need a watch or a phone. Feels mostly like having a Jawbone Up back in the days. (And I'm Finnish, so it's nice so many health tech companies are succeeding, but I think Polar offers better data)
Helpful review -- thanks! It’s wise to not let ourselves become subscription poor -- so easy to do in times when every new (and some old) company is trying to profit off of what used to be free. I’ve decided that my life will continue just fine without this product...
I have to admit that I've still got a lot of subscriptions still. Good call Ginger L. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Will you consider this to be a good purchase, for a 66 year old boomer, just trying to keep track of his basic health. The subscription price I understand it may be six bucks today, is not a deal breaker for me. Your opinion will be appreciated, thank you for your time.
Hi Grady, I would probably recommend trying it. I was able to return mine after trying it. I don’t think it’s the most capable fitness tracker but it’s a good alternative to a watch. 👍
@@mlegrand Thank you for your time. I am a watch guy, own a few watches I'm not willing to trade my traditional watches for a smart one, but the ring may be a fair option to keep track of vitals. Thank you once more.
I dont think im going to buy the aura ring 3 then... I mostly want it for the sleep tracking but if at this point now if its just "okay" going into 2023 might not be worth it.... ugh idk what to do
It’s a good option if you don’t want to wear a watch for sleep tracking. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have very little wrists, and all the fitness tracker watches look huge on me, not to mention the fact that I have a box full of pretty jewlery that I would prefer to wear when I'm at work. I love my Garmin for work outs and all I really need for this ring to do is track my steps & my sleep - will it do the trick or should I cancel my order?
It sounds like this might work for what you want. It'll measure activity level through out the day. I'm not 100% sure it'll do steps. I would double check that in case that's a deal breaker. It does track sleep pretty well. You could also use it for a bit and make sure it's going to work, if not return it. I'd just stay on them about the return. Good luck Heather!
Thanks, Matt. A few questions if you might know the answers... Do you know if the ring will register sleep apnea? My main concern is what do I do with the information I receive? So the device tells me I'm not sleeping well, what do I do then? I don't specifically don't know all the information it's designed to tell me, am better off knowing this information or just cool to have. My ire is the subscription fee, I might wait for a later date to make this purchase.
I don't think the Oura ring has any way to register a sleep apnea event. If you have a smart phone I would suggest having your phone listen to you for snoring and apnea events. Maybe something like SnoreLab? Let me know what you figure out. Thanks for watching Mark!
Thanks, Matt for the quick response. I do use a CPAP machine but have lost several pounds and I think I might not need the machine now. I just thought if the Oura diagnoses sleep it would indicate sleep apneas. I'm trying to avoid another sleep study. One other question, do you need to sleep with your phone close to you for it to work? My phone is several rooms away and was wondering if the ring needs to constantly connect your phone to work.
@@markmcgill6312 Hi Mark! It's smart that you sleep with your phone a few rooms away. The Oura Ring doesn't need to constantly connect to it. It would just need to occasionally connect to offload data and then you'd need the phone to display it. Typically your CPAP can track 'events' when using also right? I'm no expert. Congrats on loosing the weight! Hope you're feeling better.
Thanks for posting this, you do great reviews which are objective and impartial which help me make buying decisions, e.g. Wahoo Elemnt Roam was a good buy warts and all. I fancied one of these rings but having watched this I am certain I'd agree with you entirely - cool ring with some weaknesses than a wapping subscription - no thanks! And it's poor form they did not readily refund. As ever you are fair when you say they are probably busy getting through problems but I'd rather wait until they're on the other side of those and the promised features have materialised.
Thank you so much for the kind words! The Oura ring is tricky. It’s a nice device but I don’t love the payment options. I have high hopes that they’ll figure it all out and turn things around.
I've had a the Series 3 in rose gold for barely 6 months and in short, I regret getting it. When it was working, I had accepted the fact that I couldn't really wear it during strength training because it would get scratched. I mainly use it to track my sleep, and it's quite a high price to pay to do that. But what has really left a bad taste in my mouth is the customer service or lack thereof. I tried transferring data to a new phone and despite following all the steps and troubleshooting so many times, the ring just wouldn't sync with my phone. Customer service is unresponsive and when it does, it's super slow. I canceled my subscription because I can't access my data. So now, I just have a $500 not-real-gold accessory on my finger, with a few scratches and an equally useless charger.
Ugh, I feel for you. It’s super frustrating. I’m going to review some alternatives here on this channel but mostly I just wish Oura would get their act together. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I think you dumped it too early. I got the free lifetime subscription because I upgraded from Oura 2 so I don't pay the monthly fee, and that's a big plus. But Oura routinely comes out with updates and has continually improved functionality of the ring. I have had a Fitbit for years, currently a Fitbit Versa, and I've already made the determination that when my Fitbit dies I am not replacing it. The Oura does everything Fitbit does and more, and they're still coming out with updates that just make it better.
Great feedback Dena! You might be right. This video is a bit older now and I’m sure a lot has improved. That monthly fee was my main issue but I’m odd because I’m constantly testing new devices on this channel and I don’t really want to pay subscription fees if possible. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@asanta2023 I do still have it and wear it daily. Oura has continued to improve the functionality and the app and I'm very happy with it. My Fitbit hasn't died yet, so I still wear it, but my feeling remains the same. When the Fitbit dies, I'm not replacing it. I'll just use the Oura.
@@asanta2023 One thing some models of Apple Watch and Fitbit have is the ability to detect (and alert) for AFib, and the Apple watch has crash detection in some models as well. Oura doesn't have those features.
I didn’t do to much testing to see exactly where it gave up on tracking heart rate. I should have explored that a bit more. But I wouldn’t trust it for true all day tracking.
Yeah, a lot of watches do these sorts of things. Some people prefer the ring to watches. I mainly struggled with the subscription service. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I don't know. I don't typically swim like that. I was filming with one arm and trying to see if the ring was going to slip. When I review the footage, I always try to pick the clips that show the product clearly. 🤷♂️
Had problems with of the oura 2.0 and they stopped honoring the replacement.. battery just died and stopped charging so hardware is an issue. :( lost investment
And I’m guessing a watch isn’t an option based on your username. Good feedback. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Yes. Exactly. 😬🤦♂️ I do hope the company makes it. I’d like to see them make some changes and keep this product moving forward. Maybe they’ve over promised on this edition.
I think it’s the part I was most personally disappointed about when I rushed to preorder this device. I hate that more and more companies are heading in this direction. 😬
Oura is an awful product and worst of all it's their customer service. I am on my second ring and battery is almost dead like my first one, data it's all over the place most of the time and customer service stop talking to me after I submitted a complaint about the data not showing properly in the app and they told me it was a bug just in my app which is clearly a lie to hide that the ring was faulty aftee a couple of weeks I contacted them to know how much longer do they need to fix my issue and just stop answering me just like that. If the users from Oura could review their ring it wouldn't score 3 out of 10 and I am not exaggerating a bit, they went as far as deactivating the comments in their TH-cam Channel, how crazy it's that.
Hi Matt, maybe some other products could you give more information, more precision and take more frequent data! 🤣 Do not hesitate to contact us via our website chat, I have maybe some good news for you 📦
I think I've reached out to your team before via email and I don't think you guys were ready at the time. I'd love to review the Circular ring. Looking forward to learning more!
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Interesting to hear your perspectives Matt, and I agree that it is more a health tracker than a fitness tracker. I would recommend it for tracking your general health and sleep patterns, but if you care most about workouts you need to add a chest strap or fitness watch. Great video again, and amazing close-up of the ring. Also, thanks for the shoutout😊!
Yeah, I think you're right. I've added a link to your channel in the description and a card where I mention your channel. I'll be watching closely when they update the sleep algorithm to see your thoughts. 🤞🏻
@@mlegrand Thanks so much Matt🙏🏽
@@TheQuantifiedScientist would you please consider reviewing the Gen 3 again in light of the new sleep algorithm that you were promoting and supporting a year ago when I watched your video about it and that influenced me to actually buy it? I think you're kind of obligated now to review it don't you think now that it's released? I really want to know what your data finds about its accuracy especially compared to other devices. I mean if you feel like it's accurate that I will accept that it is cutting my deep sleep in half and taking an hour off my nightly sleep even though I've done nothing different whatsoever. But I suspect that it's bogus. Even you were saying that deep sleep accuracy was not good and that they were putting too much on light sleep. Now they are trying to push that everyone accept that they have much more light sleep than they even had before and much less deep sleep. I'm talking way less than an hour. When I had over 2 hours before after changing so many behaviors that affect sleep. I just don't believe it. Please help us sir!
I purchased the Oura 2 in July 2021...at the end of October they offered those of us that already had the ring a $100 discount off the Oura 3 plus free lifetime subscription. I only had my ring for 3 months at that point and despite the discount, couldn't justify dropping 200 on a new one. I figured I would pass on the offer and wait until I needed another to upgrade. Of course, I lost the ring right after the cutoff date for the offer on the new ring, so I ordered the Oura 3 a couple of weeks ago. I paid zero attention to the subscription part because I wasn't paying for one originally, so when I heard about the subscription for the Oura 3 I assumed it was for extra stuff, like community access, newer features, etc. Nope, if you don't pay for the subscription, you literally get no info of value. They show you your 3 scores and that's it, none of the data behind any of it. AND they shortened the warranty from 2 years to 1. I cancelled the order the second I found out about it. That's just greedy bullshit. I could understand withholding some stuff for people willing to pay, but they literally hold your basic stats hostage from you. Really disappointing because I like the ring. But eff that.
Thanks for posting about your experience Beth! 100% agree. I think this company is in a bad spot right now and I do like the product. Hopefully they figure out how to make it reasonable. 🤷🏻♂️
Passed on a free lifetime subscription? That would have been nice
@@qstorm76 I explained fully in my post why I passed on it. I had just purchased my ring, so it made no sense to pay $250 for another one, and when they offered the lifetime subscription they didn't say "by the way, without the subscription, you basically can't access anything at all" I only wanted the basic info behind my scores, I wasn't interested in all the new stuff they were adding. Plus they shortened the warranty from 2 years to 1 year and I keep reading about some users having problems with the ring after a year. So when my 2nd ring stops working I have to buy ANOTHER one at some point, plus pay for a subscription?? Like I said eff that ...they need to get their shit straight.
@@Beth-pf6oo oh man. passed on a great offer. you could’ve sold the ring on ebay and pay what ~$50 out of pocket
@@Beth-pf6ooso, when offered a free lifetime subscription to a service, you assume its contents rather than researching it to see what you’d miss out on?
I'm extremely disappointed. I've wanted one for a few years and my wife finally got one for me for Christmas. I didn't know about the subscription and it's not something that I'm interested in, so now my wifes is also going to be disappointed because she got me a gift that she was very excited about. Tired of these companies sucking as much money from their customers as possible.
Sorry buddy. This was my situation as well. Excited about the product but couldn't stand the pricing model. Gifting is tricky but maybe you can use that money towards some other fitness/health tracker 🤷♂️
In order to be sustainable a company needs to have an on-going revenue stream and the subscription allows them to stay in business. Good products and services and continuing app development cost money. There is no free ride buddies !!
I had been seriously considering getting one of these... The change in subscription service and customer service both sound not well thought out or put into practice. Appreciate the honest info
Yeah, I'd be hesitant. You could always wait and see if they implement all of the things they've promised with this device and then reevaluate. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
The ring is a very interesting concept. But the monthly membership was a dealbreaker for me. My own data shouldn’t be locked behind a paywall.
Right now I’m waiting for the Circular Ring to release, I hope it will be what they are promising 🙏
I would love to test that Circular Ring. I reached out to them but haven't heard back. 🤞 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Same here, I pre-ordered the Circular instead of the Oura ring because of the subscription. I'm not paying for the hardware + access to my own data (while they probably even make money from selling peoples statistics to 3rd parties) Also I've heard a lot of bad things about their customer service lately.
I think they're digging their own grave and it just takes one good competitor to knock them out. I hope it'll be Circular
@@all6senses - I really hope I can get one of these to review. Let me know what you think of it. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I agree! I got to pay $300 then pay to get my own data, which they might be selling
Yup lame. pay to track our data that they then sell it for more money. Smmmsh
Great video. I love my SWIM BIKE RUN RINSE REPEAT shirt. Naturally I ordered the orange. When your video alert popped up on my watch, my wife and I were driving. I told my wife “Matt’s gonna say x,y and z”. And she didn’t fully believe me. The video was great you filled all the little details and we both enjoyed the video. But after it she gave me that look only one’s wife can “NO (you are not buying that)”
Ha! That is so funny. My wife gives me that same look all the time! Hopefully I'll get to see that Orange SBRRR shirt somewhere!
Great video helped me make my mind up. Sounds like their support tells you everything you need to know about the product.
Thanks for the honest review.
Glad it was helpful. I do like the idea of this device. I really hope things turn around because I'd be happy to try it again in the future. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I really appreciate the review man, you gave me all the information I was looking for without overloading me with unnecessary statistics and facts. I am definitely subscribing, keep delivering quality videos and updates on this company and its products. Also: the music at 11:36 goes hard no cap.
Thanks so much Flakes!!! I’d love to review a few more competitive ring options that are out there. Oura seems to have left the door open. 🙌
yo the transitions and editing on this is crazy. love the video
Oh thanks so much Christian! Yeah, I always try to make the editing fun on these video. I *think* I can get better at it with more practice. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Until recently, you could either BUY or RENT, a product or service.
This new trend, buy one part of it and rent another part of it is unacceptable.
Yeah, I really hope this trend dies. I’m not a fan. Thanks Jazz roll 5 for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Well, I agree, but you don't have to buy it.
I've used the Ring 3.0 since February and love it. I do also have the Apple Watch for the data that comes from the Ring. I bought the Ring to track my sleep and it has definitely improved my sleep. Decide for yourself what you expect to get out of it. I am keeping my Ring.
Good point Dolores! It’s a solid device but I’m not a huge fan of their current pricing model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Do you still wear and like this ring? Does the information it gives you still help you?
I love love love my ring! It tracks everything I need as a 71yo female, not a power trainer. It helps me to monitor my sleep and walking. Also, I know why I feel “off” and can take it a little easier on days when readiness is low. I recommend the Oura ring for mothers/Father’s Day and pay the monthly fee too. Parents, grandparents would get great benefit from it. I’ve had the older model since 1919 and feel naked without it. I do not like a watch, too scratchy and annoying. Love my Oura ring!
Great feedback Karen! Thank you so much for mentioning your experience here. I think a lot of people need to hear it.
They had Oura rings back in 1919? 🙂
This video has helped me make my mind up about purchasing an Oura ring, I'm currently a whoop customer but didn't want to opt into another 12/18 month subscription for something that is ok for some things and not for others..... Thanks again for your honest opinion 👍
You are very welcome Slates Tri! Let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll try to help. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Im so glad you talked about swimming because that was one of my concerns about getting this ring
I wouldn’t trust the heart rate data when swimming but my main concern was it falling off and that wasn’t an issue for me. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thank you for this, it's making me think hard! I wanted it to monitor my sleep but object to paying the subscription just to find out the breakdown. Might wait for the circular ring....
Maybe I can talk to circular about a review. 🤞 Thanks Teresa!
Love this! Just starting now but genius to title and video photo
Thank you! I feel like I really just ramble in this video. Might not be my best but that's ok. #justKeepMakingVideos
@@mlegrand #FakeNews - this video was totally excellent and completely on point. You really covered the broad swath of issues, features, and benefits, and I actually loved the more detailed honesty and specificity you shared because I feel like it gives viewers a lot more clarity on buying decisions
I love my Oura ring! So much more comfortable than smart watches/bands, especially to wear in your sleep. Plus it tackles a more holistic and wellness approach compared to other smart devices, which is better for activity. So since that is my priority, this is just so perfect for me. Another thing is it detects illness before you can feel anything. The cycle tracker is super helpful too! With all that, I don't even mind the the subscription anymore. You can actually get protection for your ring from OSleeve too.
Glad to hear you’re loving your Oura ring!
It is my first time on your channel but I enjoyed and appreciated your honest review. I’ve been looking at the Oura ring for quite some time now and I cannot seem to make up my mind… I currently own an Apple Watch to track my fitness and overall daily activity. But I am a classic wristwatch guy… I miss my mechanical timepieces, however, I do enjoy looking at my daily steps and other stats. It is a great way to hold myself accountable. I am thinking about purchasing this ring so that I can wear a traditional watch…. I would still use my Apple Watch to track my workouts. I might just wait until every feature is available and watch reviews to make my final decision. Sorry for going on and on. Great content Matt, keep up the great work!
Thanks for checking out the channel. I really like this idea of waiting to see if the other features ever come around. I am hoping to check out some of the Oura ring competitors to see if something else might work. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have found that there is definately a difference in customer support than when Oura first started. And, that difference is not for the better. For example, I bought a replacement charger that broke within 3 months. I requested a new charger and recieved a message asking for details. I sent the details and recieved an email indicating I was eligible for an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0. Hmm.... The problem is ... I already have the 3.0 but still use the 2.0 because not all the fuctions for the the 3.0 has been implemented. So, why waste the batterly life of the 3.0? It has been 2 weeks and I have gotten no response to my warranty replacement battery charger request. Instead, I am using the 3.0 charger and would unable to use of the Oura Ring 2.0 without the previous 3.0 purchase. I get the feeling that 2.0 owners are being pushed to the side. But, it could be worse. You could be a NEW (i.e., no previous ownership of an Oura Ring) and have the privilege of buying the 3.0 ring so they can then charge you a monthly subscription to effectively use what you bought. It appears Oura went from the best business model to the worse business model of ALL devices of this type. Unless your product has a dominant monopoly-like market presense, the chance of subscription model actually adding to growth is limited and likely to fail in the long term.
Hey Joe, interesting to hear your experience. Yeah, this was my first time trying Oura. The concept seems great. I just hope they figure everything out and reverse the membership fees. We’ll see 🤷🏻♂️
I’m returning mine too. Mine stopped working randomly within the first month. It’s been 5 days and they still haven’t responded to my support request. For the price, I can’t justify putting up with such poor customer service.
Oh man, that sounds worse than my experience. 😬 Getting a response seems to take forever from them. I just have this bad feeling that this company is in a world of hurt right now. 🤷♂️ Keep me posted on how things workout and best of luck BellyDanza85!
@@mlegrand I agree with you - the company itself may well be about to go under! Thank you!
Thanks Matt! Ordered, used for a few weeks, and then returned my Oura 3.0 specifically due to the monthly subscription. Seems somewhat counterintuitive to pay for one's own health data. Especially when, in my case, I wear the latest Apple Watch and can get similar health & sleep data at no additional cost. Thus, had it not been for the monthly subscription I might have kept the ring.
Yeah, I'm right with you Don. If it wasn't for that subscription I'd be a big fan I think. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have owned the Gen 3 now for a year plus. I can report just as many negative as positive experiences. On the positive side it did help me move my sleep back much earlier and understand more deeply the impact my health behaviors have on my actual health. On the other hand just wow. Customer service regularly sucks and is only available through email. Feature releases come long after they are promised and come with a host of problems. For example the O2 feature completely crashed the battery and took multiple releases and firmware updates to stabilize it. I don't use it now. After a year my battery wasn't working properly and I had to get a whole new ring. That took a while to actually convince them that my ring was the problem and not just their software which as I said is always faulty. Now they have released the long awaited sleep algorithm upgrade and let me just tell you it absolutely sucks. They are literally punishing people who are older with lower HRV scores that are actually typical for our age. I am in my late '50s in excellent health at normal weight exercising regularly. I also do a lot of other things to increase my HRV such as blue light blockers and mouth tape and smaller evening meals with significant intermittent fasting etc. With the new algorithm, my deep sleep is immediately cut in half and an hour is cut off my sleep every night. Again I don't think this is anything new in terms of what they are measuring but they are just deducting sleep time and deep sleep time based on my HRV score. It is stupid, cheap, and just so dumb. This will probably be the deal breaker for me. I am shopping for other smart rings at this point. And yes the subscription is basically lying to their base selling the ring initially as a lifetime free subscription but then changing their terms later. I was lucky enough to get in with the last batch of lifers but I still empathize and understand that others don't want to pay the subscription for their own data. I think it's a crime for any company to do that. So I'm pretty sad now because I really wanted this ring to work. And like I said it has helped me in some ways. It is just far far from perfect. What other rings out there are people using that are quality? What do you think of this new Ringconn? Ultrahuman?
Hey Phoenix, thanks so much for the feedback. This is great! I'll try to review Ringconn and Ultrahuman and we'll hope for better. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
insane production quality, vnice
Thank you so much Zedicy! Very nice of you to take the time to comment. 👍🏻
Update: The V3 gold is now $449 and all rings ordered after Oct. 2021 only comes with a 1-month free subscription. The subscription is honestly the worst part. I'd pay $400 for it, but my stats should be accessible outside a paywall. The menstrual tracker does interest me but to many promises and no results.
I haven’t looked into the key differences of the V3. But I’m with you. I’d pay the price without the subscription. 😬
Great review!
Thank you Andrea!
Thanks for sharing, nice review Very interesting.I dont have a much idea about it.
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍 it’s an interesting product I’m just not a fan of that membership fee.
$72/year is chump change when people are spending $10 a day on a coffee or $100s a month on streaming services that they really don't need
Very true and I'm guilty of it as well. Not coffee so much but my kids are all into streaming shows. I'd say, I'm just tired of being subscribed to death and this was one more subscriptions service I couldn't justify to myself. I also get all of these metrics without a subscription from other devices like an Apple or Garmin watch. Thanks so much for posting this. It's good feedback.
Do you have this ring? If so, how do you like it?
the promised features are now updated to say "Coming in 2022" so we may not see it until December, if at all!
🤦♂️ - So frustrating. I have my doubts that we'll ever see all of the promised features. 😬
Fabulous thumbnail, Matt. I wore three ŌURA Rings to bed last night and the Circular Ring. I am still thinking about which one will be returned... I quite enjoy the ŌURA Ring 2.0 for it is free every month :)
I am very curious about the Circular Ring. I'll be watching the channel to see your thoughts! Keep up the great work over there! 👏🏻
I have a Generation2 Ring and I am just using it for tracking sleep. I think rob/ The quantified Scientist also mentioned, that the bedtime and sleeptime is pretty acurate.
In my opionion the only two things I can directly influence (when do I get to bed and how fast do I sleep (meditation e.g.)).
Combinded with HRV and temperature over night I am fully satisfied to see my rest level and sleep quality.
The payment modell of the gen3 ring is a no buy argument for me. I don't like this kind of cost structure.
I’m with you Alex. I’m just not a fan of the subscription model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great review. I have been waiting for the ring to actually measure HR while working out. Also, have been waiting to see it measure SpO2 but have not yet seen his function available.+ I do appreciate the device as a health monitor, but will stick with my Garmin device for accurate workout information.
Yeah, that's been my thoughts also. I really did like the device. It just feels like the marketing has been over promising while the product is under delivering and charging a monthly fee. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I purchased the gen3 ring since my gen2 battery died. I asked multiple times for Oura support to confirm that I would not be charged a monthly fee and received that confirmation in some very confusing responses from their pathetic support team. But just this morning I looked in the app my accout area and it states 156 left in your trial membership! So the ring is going back. No way am I paying a monthly fee. Also would like to note that I wore my Oura ring and Fitbit together for 3 years and always trusted my sleep tracking from my Fitbit over my Oura ring. Oura always gave at least an hour or more deep sleep than my Fitbit for example 2.5 hrs deep on Oura and 1.5 by Fitbit. I had 2 professional sleep studies done over this period that were in line to my Fitbit, not Oura.
Yeah, it’s interesting, Fitbit does pretty well with its sleep stages algorithm. Oura has promised an improved sleep tracking algorithm but I’m not sure what’s taking them so long to implement. 🤷🏻♂️ So sorry you’ve had a hard time with the 3.0. I hope the return process goes smoothly for you. Let me know how everything ends up.
Thank you, for sharing
My pleasure Erwin!
Adding a monthly subscription to this is wild. I was gonna get one. Now i dont think I will
I’ve reviewed a few other options here on my channel. The UltraHuman Air ring and the RinConn. Both don’t have the subscription model. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great information 🔥
Thanks again Erwin!
@@mlegrand Absolutely
Thanks for the kind words Erwin! Keep me posted on what you do. I'm going to check out a ring from ultrahuman next. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
More to comment on this but I returned my ring and they received it on 12/23, and I did not get my refund until the first or second week of February after six or seven follow up attempts
Wow, that's pretty crapy. I think Oura is struggling right now. 🤦♂️
@@mlegrand Yes I think so, and it was surprising to me because I thought there was so much hype around the 3.0 that they would have had, and I know that they had, a lot of initial sales, which to me would mean that they had money to hire people - and the opposite felt true.
@@mlegrand In the end I felt like it was more of a sleep only device, that you just get your recovery in the morning, your sleep analytics, and your sleep score, but that’s about the only value I felt.
@@fitgearhunter - agreed
Thanks for this great review, Matt! I've always been intrigued by the Oura Ring but never got around to doing any research on it. I don't need a health tracker (at the moment), I do have an activity track in my Garmin, and sure don't need another subscription lol!
Yeah, that’s pretty much exactly how I feel. Hope you are well buddy!
The Circular Ring then has arrived just in time for everyone to ditch Oura Ring!
I'd love to learn more about the Circular Ring. 🤷♂️ I'll reach out to them and see if they're interested in a review or something. Keep me posted on what you think. 👍
"Oura selling your data back to you" triggered me, actually. I think I'll cancel my order. The idea of a subscription model to get data back that is being collected by the device I paid a premium for - very disturbing. I knew there was a subscription but I thought it was for more fancy things.
I agree. It’s a disturbing trend. I do like the ring and I’d love for a company to do something similar with a different payment model but this company seems to be struggling right now. Let me know how canceling your order goes. I’ve found customer service to be pretty slow. 😬
@@mlegrand my sizing kit just shipped this weekend so I guess it's going to be a while haha
@@mlegrand so I decided to shoot them an email to cancel the order even though the sizing kit is on its way still but they replied to my email basically immediately and cancelled the order. Will report back when I get the refund
Edit: just got the refund as well!
@@loganrossignol - Oh that's much faster than my experience. I think it took them 4-5 weeks to get me my refund. I kind of want to explore some other ring alternatives but we'll see. 🤷♂️
In order to be sustainable a company needs to have an on-going revenue stream and the subscription allows them to stay in business. Good products and services and continuing app development cost money. There is no free ride buddies !! This is a high quality product from a high quality company.
I disagree. If subscriptions were the only way companies could survive companies like Garmin wouldn’t exist. Subscription services like this are a new trend. And one I detest. 😒 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand Garmin software is horrible so I would rather pay and have good quality continually updated and supported software - there is no free ride buddy !!
thanks Matt I am mix on it. afew of my friends love the ring and a few rings are not on them.
Yeah, I think I'd love it if it didn't have the membership fee and didn't over promise and under deliver on features. It's a cool product but I'm worried that the company might be in a tough spot right now. Hope all is well buddy!
I missed the special for the lifetime membership as an Oura 2 owner. I contacted them 1 month later to see if they will willing to make an exception, and they refused. I guess they were betting that i would buy one anyways. They guessed wrong, don't get me wrong, i love my Oura ring as a sleep tracker, but that's all it is, lets be honest. I'm not quite ready to spend an additional 6$ per month, especially after the review by TQS.
Yeah, I love Rob’s videos. The Oura company is interesting, it feels like they to make some major changes to try to ‘right the ship’ over there. Things seem out of control. It’s a great concept so I do hope it works out for them in the future. I’d love to test future iterations of this device. 🤷🏻♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand 👍
I'm looking forward to this as I felt blackmailed into buying mine but still haven't told them what size I want and could theoretically ask for a refund. I very much like the 2 but am sceptical about the blood oxygen sensor since it kills the battery on my Garmin Fenix.
I could be wrong but last I checked SPo2 wasn’t working ‘yet’. There’s a lot of features not currently functional on this product. I’d double check to make sure you’re eligible to return the ring because the return process did take me a while. 🤦♂️
Was planning to buy the ring for myself, my wife and our parents and siblings,, but changed my mind after they introduced the idea of subscription ,,, I do not do well with subscription based services,, prefer to pay once
Me too! Maybe they’ll be something else on the market at some point 🤷🏻♂️
I was looking at this only this weekend as I want to get away from wearing my Garmin 24/7
This might be an option. I don't know if you'll love the monthly membership but you'd have sleep tracking without wearing a watch. 🤷🏻♂️
Great review. Thinking about getting one, happy to hear refunds is possible!
I don't mind a small monthly fee if that means you get more updates and better development.
After a sale is done the company dont have any reason to keep updating the device or app if they only get money from the sale. In my book $6 is way better than what Fitbit does with there subscription.
Very true. Since posting this video Oura has announced that they’ll be releasing heart rate during running and cycling workouts. So they’re slowly getting there. Let me know what you think if you end up with one. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video! So i have the Whoop and their roll out for 4.0 was terrible, for arguably a lower quality device. I was curious about this device, but now not so much. Thanks!
Yeah, it's an interesting device. I think it'd be a competitive product to Whoop at a lower monthly rate I'm just not sure if they're going to ever fulfill all of these product promises. We'll see. I really wish Wahoo would keep cranking on some health tracking metrics within their Rival watch.
@@mlegrand agreed, i really like wahoo, and actually bought their watch on the promised features to come. However they delivered. The bugs have all been worked out, they just added a drills mode for swimming so really sleep metrics would be the last feature needed IMO. 🤷🏼♂️
@@sunsetkush420 - Oh I need to test their drill mode for swimming. I'm excited about that feature!
Thank you for this! I mostly want health metrics to keep an eye on my Long Covid symptoms and numbers - definitely not into fitness at the moment. But, the cost plus membership you mentioned is leading to just hope the new Apple watch comes out next month. I do not have any wearables right now…..
Apple Watch Series 8 will probably come out in October. I really hope that you feel better. Long Covid is so scary but we're also just now learning about it and I'm optimistic that we'll find ways to help. Take care, Matt
It doesn't monitor the heart rate while your working out. Also sleep cycle is also is another concern where if your not sleeping but still relaxing it recording as your sleeping. So I believe both needs to be updated with new algorithm
I ordered mine and now after watching this video I feel kind of ripped off because on the site it says that it can track your steps but apparently It does not.now I feel scammed because my whole point of getting it is to count my steps while still being able to wear my dads watch
I think it does count steps right? Maybe you could try it for 2 weeks and see what you think? I did eventually receive a refund when I returned mine. Keep me posted on what you figure out and thanks so much for watching.
Interesting video topic. Not that it was your intent, but you've certainly not sold me on this.
Frankly, I've got no place for a wearable that pretty much only tells me what my general health condition is. Where, admittedly, I haven't got any device that is capable of doing so, I'd be more inclined to drop that sort of money on a sports watch that, conveniently, can also give me a fairly decent amount of data on my general health... and tell me how fast I'm going on my bike.
Great videography, yet again, in this one!
Keep on keepin' on!
Yeah, that’s one thing that I didn’t mention. Spending this kind of money on a sports watch would get you a nice piece of hardware with similar features and a lot more features. Thanks buddy!
@@mlegrand aren't the comparably priced Coros watches and Polar watches offering this kind of data, without the need for a subscription?
@@TheCelticClydesdaleShow - Garmin and Polar do a good job tracking sleep metrics. I’m not 100% sure about Coros.
You've been killing the drone shots!
The amount of tech they fit in the ring is absolutely incredible.
I watched a video about heart rate. The lowest 10% of resting heart rate men are sub 54bpm, which you qualify for! The top 1%? Sub 46, which you're....so close! But you aren't a 1%er!!!
Oh! What Iphne do you use!? I need to get a new phone to work a newer drone....
You are really intune with what people are looking for! Great job.
ROB IS AWESOME! He makes me laugh. And all his data shows "all the fitness watches are bad at tracking data!" It makes me question "Should I even bother getting a fancier/more expensive watch?"
How do YOU use daily readiness scores (whether it be body battery or any other type of figure that tells you recovery)?
That is a sweet charging set up and one hour is right quick!
Ha! "the bleeding doesn't stop."
HA! "I don't like subscriptions....but subscribe to this channel!!!"
Not related to the ring, but power meters....one arm, twoarms, or no arms!?
XOXO
Ok, as for power meters . . . I typically recommend single sided to save money. Triathletes will typically see very similar right/left balance because they aren't really spiking power and tend to hold nice steady low wattage. You might see very different values when say . . . mountain biking. You might consider a duel sided pedal option that you can easily switch between bikes. Don't know. They're pricey. 🤷🏻♂️ I do believe that a power meter on your upcoming summer race would be helpful. I'd suggest using it almost like a governor to encourage you to keep the spikes and wattage down for the first 50 miles or so.
@@mlegrand Hadn't thought of the "governor" approach. Turns out triathletes are good for ideas after all!!!
Thanks for taking the time to write to me, I feel like a celebrity.
Great video as always Matt - and great analysis / overview. I'm curious about who they think their target market is. Athletes will want data and screens and anyone willing to pay that much money for a good looking wearable that gives them general health data probably already has an Apple watch.
I think this is a premium health tracker product that might be aimed at a very similar market that might also have an iphone. Maybe people who like to charge their watch at night and still want sleep data? 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand I am thinking of buying it, as the Apple Watch is kinda annoying me as it provides me with to much notifications and charging every day. And for regular day tracking, it sounds amazing. For sports I might still use the Apple Watch or something similar.
@@jimyape6404 - If you end up buying, let me know what you think. Like I said in this video, I think it's a cool product. I wasn't pumped about the pricing but there is value to it. I do think it works really well with the Apple watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Total bait and switch. My wife bought one and it was great. She buys me the new one (Gen 3) for $350, 6 months later they shut off access to all the data and want $6/month for the rest of my life to get access to it. That’s crazy! Generation 1 & 2 didn’t do that. Anyone who bought those first two models don’t have to pay anything. We asked them for our money back, this is absurd.
Yeah, I think the subscription stuff is what turned me off about the device. Otherwise, I liked it. Thanks for your feedback Arroyo. I think it'll help others considering this device.
I guess some like the idea of just having a ring but then again, there's so much of functionality that is missing so you'd still need a watch or a phone. Feels mostly like having a Jawbone Up back in the days. (And I'm Finnish, so it's nice so many health tech companies are succeeding, but I think Polar offers better data)
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I bet a lot of people have this and an apple watch but I don't know. It's a hard sell in my opinion.
Helpful review -- thanks! It’s wise to not let ourselves become subscription poor -- so easy to do in times when every new (and some old) company is trying to profit off of what used to be free. I’ve decided that my life will continue just fine without this product...
I have to admit that I've still got a lot of subscriptions still. Good call Ginger L. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Will you consider this to be a good purchase, for a 66 year old boomer, just trying to keep track of his basic health. The subscription price I understand it may be six bucks today, is not a deal breaker for me. Your opinion will be appreciated, thank you for your time.
Hi Grady, I would probably recommend trying it. I was able to return mine after trying it. I don’t think it’s the most capable fitness tracker but it’s a good alternative to a watch. 👍
@@mlegrand Thank you for your time. I am a watch guy, own a few watches I'm not willing to trade my traditional watches for a smart one, but the ring may be a fair option to keep track of vitals. Thank you once more.
I dont think im going to buy the aura ring 3 then... I mostly want it for the sleep tracking but if at this point now if its just "okay" going into 2023 might not be worth it.... ugh idk what to do
It’s a good option if you don’t want to wear a watch for sleep tracking. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have very little wrists, and all the fitness tracker watches look huge on me, not to mention the fact that I have a box full of pretty jewlery that I would prefer to wear when I'm at work. I love my Garmin for work outs and all I really need for this ring to do is track my steps & my sleep - will it do the trick or should I cancel my order?
It sounds like this might work for what you want. It'll measure activity level through out the day. I'm not 100% sure it'll do steps. I would double check that in case that's a deal breaker. It does track sleep pretty well. You could also use it for a bit and make sure it's going to work, if not return it. I'd just stay on them about the return. Good luck Heather!
@@vt-17 I'm going to give it a try. As Matt pointed out, if it doesn't end up suiting my needs, I can always send it back.
Thanks, Matt. A few questions if you might know the answers... Do you know if the ring will register sleep apnea? My main concern is what do I do with the information I receive? So the device tells me I'm not sleeping well, what do I do then? I don't specifically don't know all the information it's designed to tell me, am better off knowing this information or just cool to have. My ire is the subscription fee, I might wait for a later date to make this purchase.
I don't think the Oura ring has any way to register a sleep apnea event. If you have a smart phone I would suggest having your phone listen to you for snoring and apnea events. Maybe something like SnoreLab? Let me know what you figure out. Thanks for watching Mark!
Thanks, Matt for the quick response. I do use a CPAP machine but have lost several pounds and I think I might not need the machine now. I just thought if the Oura diagnoses sleep it would indicate sleep apneas. I'm trying to avoid another sleep study. One other question, do you need to sleep with your phone close to you for it to work? My phone is several rooms away and was wondering if the ring needs to constantly connect your phone to work.
@@markmcgill6312 Hi Mark! It's smart that you sleep with your phone a few rooms away. The Oura Ring doesn't need to constantly connect to it. It would just need to occasionally connect to offload data and then you'd need the phone to display it. Typically your CPAP can track 'events' when using also right? I'm no expert. Congrats on loosing the weight! Hope you're feeling better.
Sleep tracking for FREE. Go to bed, wake up 8+ hours later. Remove behaviors that ruin that. THE END
Wait, you mean I don't have to pay Whoop $30 per month to tell me how I slept? 😂
Thanks for posting this, you do great reviews which are objective and impartial which help me make buying decisions, e.g. Wahoo Elemnt Roam was a good buy warts and all. I fancied one of these rings but having watched this I am certain I'd agree with you entirely - cool ring with some weaknesses than a wapping subscription - no thanks! And it's poor form they did not readily refund. As ever you are fair when you say they are probably busy getting through problems but I'd rather wait until they're on the other side of those and the promised features have materialised.
Thank you so much for the kind words! The Oura ring is tricky. It’s a nice device but I don’t love the payment options. I have high hopes that they’ll figure it all out and turn things around.
I've had a the Series 3 in rose gold for barely 6 months and in short, I regret getting it. When it was working, I had accepted the fact that I couldn't really wear it during strength training because it would get scratched. I mainly use it to track my sleep, and it's quite a high price to pay to do that. But what has really left a bad taste in my mouth is the customer service or lack thereof. I tried transferring data to a new phone and despite following all the steps and troubleshooting so many times, the ring just wouldn't sync with my phone. Customer service is unresponsive and when it does, it's super slow. I canceled my subscription because I can't access my data. So now, I just have a $500 not-real-gold accessory on my finger, with a few scratches and an equally useless charger.
Ugh, I feel for you. It’s super frustrating. I’m going to review some alternatives here on this channel but mostly I just wish Oura would get their act together. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I think you dumped it too early. I got the free lifetime subscription because I upgraded from Oura 2 so I don't pay the monthly fee, and that's a big plus. But Oura routinely comes out with updates and has continually improved functionality of the ring. I have had a Fitbit for years, currently a Fitbit Versa, and I've already made the determination that when my Fitbit dies I am not replacing it. The Oura does everything Fitbit does and more, and they're still coming out with updates that just make it better.
Great feedback Dena! You might be right. This video is a bit older now and I’m sure a lot has improved. That monthly fee was my main issue but I’m odd because I’m constantly testing new devices on this channel and I don’t really want to pay subscription fees if possible. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Do you still use this ring? If so how do you like it? Is it still useful to you?
@@asanta2023 I do still have it and wear it daily. Oura has continued to improve the functionality and the app and I'm very happy with it. My Fitbit hasn't died yet, so I still wear it, but my feeling remains the same. When the Fitbit dies, I'm not replacing it. I'll just use the Oura.
@@denakelley4363 thank you for responding Dena. I was trying to decide between the Oura ring or Apple Watch.
@@asanta2023 One thing some models of Apple Watch and Fitbit have is the ability to detect (and alert) for AFib, and the Apple watch has crash detection in some models as well. Oura doesn't have those features.
Hopefully the upcoming Samsung ring will do away with the obnoxious paywall
Yeah, I'm very excited to see what Samsung has to offer. Although, I don't have a samsung phone. 🤔
So as a barber this ring wouldn't work well??
I didn’t do to much testing to see exactly where it gave up on tracking heart rate. I should have explored that a bit more. But I wouldn’t trust it for true all day tracking.
I would have returned it because it does everything that my Samsung gear does except less.
Yeah, a lot of watches do these sorts of things. Some people prefer the ring to watches. I mainly struggled with the subscription service. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
why are you swimming with your fingers splayed open?
I don't know. I don't typically swim like that. I was filming with one arm and trying to see if the ring was going to slip. When I review the footage, I always try to pick the clips that show the product clearly. 🤷♂️
9 months later it’s only one month for free. This company is struggling
That's my feeling. 🤷♂️
Right? I just heard about this ring recently and now im like oh my gosh stingy
Had problems with of the oura 2.0 and they stopped honoring the replacement.. battery just died and stopped charging so hardware is an issue. :( lost investment
So sorry about that V A. I just get the impression that this company is in trouble right now. 🤷♂️
This ring doesn't provide live heart rate data which is useless if you are heart rate training in the gym or on a cycle training. Avoid.
And I’m guessing a watch isn’t an option based on your username. Good feedback. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
That seems like really slow customer service and makes me wary about the company overall. I also am not a fan of the pricing structure here either.
Yes. Exactly. 😬🤦♂️ I do hope the company makes it. I’d like to see them make some changes and keep this product moving forward. Maybe they’ve over promised on this edition.
The subscription is a joke
I think it’s the part I was most personally disappointed about when I rushed to preorder this device. I hate that more and more companies are heading in this direction. 😬
Oura is an awful product and worst of all it's their customer service. I am on my second ring and battery is almost dead like my first one, data it's all over the place most of the time and customer service stop talking to me after I submitted a complaint about the data not showing properly in the app and they told me it was a bug just in my app which is clearly a lie to hide that the ring was faulty aftee a couple of weeks I contacted them to know how much longer do they need to fix my issue and just stop answering me just like that. If the users from Oura could review their ring it wouldn't score 3 out of 10 and I am not exaggerating a bit, they went as far as deactivating the comments in their TH-cam Channel, how crazy it's that.
Yeah, I think I alluded to this in the video but I have a bad feeling about this company. I think they’re in trouble.
Your experiences, especially complex failures on response and return indicate a failing company. Promises not met. ? Scam money grab. Sad sad sad.
I thought they were in a bit of trouble also but they keep on going. 🤷🏻♂️
After 6 month i must bought MY DATA back? Are they kidding me? 🖕
Yeah, that’s a hard sell. 🤦♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
GGGRRRRRRRR I HATE subscription products!!!!.... Im NOT supporting this new horrible trend
But you’re ok with TH-cam subscribes right? 😂 💯% agree with you. I’d love to see this trend die.
I couldn’t agree with you more. The subscription factor is serious BS.
Don’t waste your money on this useful piece of crap.
I liked it. I just didn't like the subscription fee enough to keep it. 🤷♂️
Hi Matt, maybe some other products could you give more information, more precision and take more frequent data! 🤣
Do not hesitate to contact us via our website chat, I have maybe some good news for you 📦
I think I've reached out to your team before via email and I don't think you guys were ready at the time. I'd love to review the Circular ring. Looking forward to learning more!