How to Install Interior Doors - Robin's Step by Step
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- The final part of our internal door installation series, hanging an interior door. Robin Clevett hangs the door in his frame and shows you loads of his carpentry tricks and tips.
This video shows you how to install an interior door that is not prehung and quite a tricky DIY door install. How to hang a door like a pro!
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Nice video as always, Robin. All of my joinery work is on period, heritage and listed buildings - so here's the ACTUAL reason why we use a hinge spacing of 6" top/8" or 9" bottom. Pre-1890 there were no definitive standard-sized doors - a brickie or stonemason would leave a hole in a wall which was big enough to accommodate a 2" thick frame plus a door - usually around 6'6" x 2'6" for a regular internal, and he'd put in oak wedges between mortar courses to give the chippie something to nail the frame into - and more of the same wedges between vertical brick courses for skirtings, dado rails and so on. The chippie would then very often build a door onsite to fit the frame, unless he worked for a company with a local workshop where they could be done more easily. I actually finished making 12 new doors for a Victorian house last week - and every single one was a totally different size ........ But anyway - in 1891, two companies started the first mass-production of doors - one in London, and another one up in West Yorkshire. Victorian doors would invariably be 4 or 6-panelled, but if you look at anything from that period, you'll always see that the bottom rail is half as deep again as the top rail, with the middle rail being dimensioned somewhere in between - this was done to make the door aesthetically pleasing. To make production faster and because there were no CNC routers back then, these doors were always made using through tenons - and the hinge spacing derived from the fact that when the doors were being hung, the chippie would always chop out the hinge rebates in a position to avoid the tenons - with the tenons ending 5" from the top of the door, and either 7" or 8" from the bottom. The reason why some chippies use 6+8 and others use 6+9 is that the two companies mentioned used different bottom rail depths - the Yorkshire ones were an inch lower than the London ones. That tradition has stuck to this very day. Betcha didn't know that :)
That, Kevin, is a brilliant bit of information and it seems much more plausible than the parallax.
What an education. Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me, one thing I really like and I know it's a terrible cliche but you really do learn something new every day, thanks a million!
Kevin when that question comes up on who wants to be a millionaire I’ll give you an honorary mention!
Nice bit of knowledge.
@@mattmatt4000 If it happens to be the million dollar question he might want more than a mention.
@Skill Builder I’ll buy him a nice set of Japanese chisels.
Clear and precise instructions from a quality tradesman 👍
I have done some woodworks in the past but this woodwork plan th-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG helps me do much in a far lesser time than i used to do i have already built several projects with this plan and i intend to do many more soon. Thank you so much!
You made this an art not a skill. The pride you take in your work is rare to find these days and you sir are a master of your trade
I’ve hung about 100 doors and I always like to look for inspiration and other ways to get around things. What a Lovelly bloke.
I like how you pulled out the gold card. With a wee cheeky smile.
Your work show why you can have one though. The best part is the fact you turned all the screw heads vertical.
Im also the same level of OCD perfection.
As a retired carpenter & joiner I have to say I really enjoy your videos, they're well made and clearly explained, particularly like how you include some of the back story or reasons why things are done a certain way.. I still enjoy working with wood (but don't miss fitting fire doors), and find it a pleasure to watch a top tradesman at work in practical situations rather than in a super-duper workshop. Keep up the good work 👍
Apprentices are lucky these days to be able to learn off these people on youtube like Robin. Thanks
Carpenter a joiner here too but brushing up on my door hanging skills as I have done few.
It’s so nice to see a proper tradesman giving a tutorial I have given up on so many other videos as they clearly aren’t skilled.
I have no problem subscribing to your channel.
Thank you.
Ps I’m in Australia so loving the metric speak
Been a joiner 35 years can’t believe I just watched this !! Just reminded me I hate working with wood !!!
What a postivr post
funny enough im 60 and a Painter and decorator and i love working with wood its my hobby and Passion
I’ve been a joiner for 8 years and I’m already sick of it hahhah
hey Robin, great video.
these airbags are really great,
they save you a lot of work,
i think i'll buy me a pair.
i showed my wife your video and she immediately said he has green eyes😁
just like the flower pot that hangs behind you.
you can see that women see everything differently than we men.
the men the work and the women the beauty, (she said that and sends her regards) now you have one more subscriber😳
ok mate see you next video and stay healthy😷
greetings from germany👋🏻
Robin. There are not many carpenters I respect in the trade, but you are certainly up there. Awesome to see someone so passionate and skilled in the carpentry trade. Very informative. 👍
Awesome videos - really appreciate seeing a time served joiner doing his thing! Keep up the great work and thanks for all the tips, I’m about to change all my doors.
Is it compulsory to use a gold American express card or will a gas meter card do for us poor folk! I was told it was 6" & 9" so you did not hit the top & bottom tennons, great to see how other folks do things, it amazes me how we all just click a keyboard to now have access to probably millions of years of experience all told, when only 30yrs ago you only had scholars books or the guy who was your mentor as an apprentice to relate all your construction knowledge upon, the internet is not always a demon if used correctly! love to see some passion in the work, all I ever say to my lads is "would you have it in your house?" If its crap & they say yes, do you really need to work with that level?
Love to keep up with you lads, I applaud the mind set & you prove that the building trade are not all grunting, farting, swearing objects, & perhaps something to cherish & be proud of.
Its true for you,I still remember in the 90 s ordering from a magazine pamplet on how to hang doors,I made and hung a door in my mums shed, it was a challenge and only a month ago I replaced it armed with all the tools and knowledge I knocked it together in an evening hung and all,but you can watch all the Internet you want on how to do things but it all comes down to experience how a job ends finishes up.
I’m a shuttering chippy now, but every now and then I have to do some first or second fix. I’m amazed by the amount of tools you boys have to have now. So much money then some tnuc nicks them.
Yeah tell me about it i had my van and the tools stolen last month. So iv lost about £10000 in one sitting. The police turned up and said ( to be honest me the chances of us finding it are slim ) and iv herd nothing since
daniel hammond sorry to hear that mate. The thing is the people buying these stolen tools are just as bad as the bastards breaking in to the vans. People stop buying, people stop stealing. There wouldn’t be a market for them.
Dan I always ask for the purchase recipt on ebay or i dont buy it. I wish we could all get together and do something lol
daniel hammond like the Purge builders edition😂. Fingers crossed you hear back from the old bill.
Dan i was thinking more like get a few hundred lads together and just go and park up on the m25 stop it being used for a couple of days. So that people in government take us seriously. This wouldnt happen in France there would be riots and demonstrations all over the place
diyer just fitted my first door, while running in and out watching your video, quite impressed with myself great video
Nice work! That is what it is all about
I love how ‘particular’ you are about things. I’m exactly the same, only I call myself a little “arsey” 😂
Flashing your American Express there Robin! Only rich carpenter's have them!
An apprentice trained, highly skilled and experienced tradesman should be reasonably well off by the time they've completed three decades of work.
Its the excessive greed of the multi millionaires, and grossly, billionaires that's stopping us poorer folk from living a good secure life!
@@thetessellater9163 studying as an architect and employed as a handyman carpenter I can tell you that the real graft is in the hands of the builders.
It's nice to see craftsmen take pride in their work.
Great watching you! Back in the 60's I worked with my uncle a bit and he was your kind of carpenter! Craftsmen are much rarer than people think. Thanks for sharing you knowledge!
Nice work Robin, you remind me of the way my amazing dad worked. He was a master carpenter/ builder who come from a long line of Austrian carpenters, officially he started his apprenticeship when he was 15 in Austria just after WW2 but he was pretty much born with a hammer in his hand lol. He came here to Australia in the late 50s for a holiday, met my mum and couldn't leave. He could build/make anything and was an amazing craftsman and perfectionist, who could and would pick a problem a mile away in someone's new or old building/renovations and didn't hesitate to point it out 😂😂😂 it was a bit embarrassing as a kid, but he has passed that skill on to me and I have continued the tradition and passed it onto my beautiful daughter 😂😂😂. Thanks for the awesome content guýs, it's great to see.
I am thanking God for having your family on this planet. I hope that all your families through the years are large ones, and that your genes proliferate. Love, honor, and high craftsmanship.
Thanks Skill Builder. An excellent self-help video from a a true professionals that works for a true amateur . With no previous experience I have managed to successfully hang an interior kitchen door, thanks to your tuition. Not with your quality of finish but still I'm happy with the results. Keep up the good work.
Greetings from Dublin....Excellent video Robin, very thorough, brilliant......1st class builder....Your customers are very lucky to have you working on their houses!
Brilliant tips and pointers. I’m refurbishing an old Cornish house (just managed to get on the property ladder) I’ll definitely be watching these vids more as they are really good at helping me with my project. Many thanks. 🙏
This guy is fantastic, really slick, personable and clear presentation, which gets right to the business and clarifies the procedures...full marks. Wish I had this king of advice before, life would have been a lot easier!
Thanks Graham for your kind words
It's an pleasure to watch you work, my late father was a carpenter and joiner, had is own business, and a lovely Joinery workshop, I spent alot of my younger days on a mortice machine or a spindle moulder or out with dad on site fitting doors and windows, he loved working with timber and to him it wasn't work it was a pleasure, since lock down I quit my job and started my own business, JCO Home Maintenance Service, and I'm painting and decorating and fitting hardwood front doors with furniture and interior doors, I've got all his wood working chisels and tools and it comes so naturally to me and I to now have the love of working with timber and I so enjoy taking pleasure in my work and problem solving. I'm 40 years old now and should of done this 20 years ago when he was still alive, hindsight is a wonderful thing hey, keep up the good work you are a true craftsman and your work is a work of art, luved the video on scarf joints. All the best James, JCO Home Maintenance Service.
Oh my I like to line the screws up and do the opposites too, just bought a dbs saubor mortice jig, does a lovely job on a front door mortice lock, but it's not the same feeling as doing it the old way, would be a dream to watch you work and help for free of course could learn so much from you.
Thanks Robin. Always interesting watching others fit especially you with that straight delivery , no waving of hands and 'listen up guys'.
Of course the one thing that I discovered was the centring drill bit, don't understand why everyone doesn't use them as you do. The other thing is that slot headed traditional screws are designed so that the position you start the head is the same when it is at correct tightness. I didn't believe it but its true!
Winbags
Roger and Robin. Great as always.
Tightening screws on opposite ends/sides. It keeps the fixture balanced and gaps even
Robin, I was smiling to myself watching this as many of the ways you do things in this video from marking your hinges, only putting your top screw in first on each hinge - leaves room for final adjustment to shift the door on the other screw holes one way or another. It was kind of reassurance that I wasn't mad all this time for the level of thought given to each individual detail and the finish/or result that it has if that makes sense? 👍
I used to pop my fall stops in about a 1/4 inch so the door would be set in so I could scribe a pencil line against the door of the frame .
This was more for new doors in old frames after I’d tight fitted the door to get the final fit . I would used an electric planer to take of enough to tight fit the door , but would always finish the fit with a hand plane as for me it was the only way for a perfect finish . I love the fact you put a leading edge on the hanging side . So many young Chippy’s will just undercut the hinge to stop binding . Having a leading edge means the hinges are flush . I miss slotted screws for door hanging ....If you know ,you know . Lol
Love your videos. You a top tradesman 💪🏻👌🏻
Excellent video. Enjoy all you British carpenters. You are trained so well. No nonsense. Sorry about the Queen. We are thinking of you here in the States.
another great video. I always learn something from robin! Robin, get yourself the cordless makita router - it will make your life soo much easier !
I am turning 49 on Monday been a joiner since the age of 15 am loving everything you are doing glad to see you are keeping our demonising trade alive. Well done 👍
You do a nice job with these Skill Builder videos, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
When I'm not using a multi-hinge template with my router to set hinges for batches of doors, I use the same method as you do, using the router mainly to set the depth and remove the bulk of the waste. But I can still remember my instructor showing us how to do the whole job with a chisel forty years ago in apprentice class: after chopping in the outline, he would double tap the chisel at each location inside it, 3 mm apart, in a steady rhythm and quick pace that registered in my young mind as a human machine. I did the job that way for years way back when. Knowing how to do all your work without an electric tool, though not often put into practice today, gives a foundation for understanding that never loses value.
Great Comment Michael enjoyed that
Great Vid. In Australia, the reason the tradition of the bottom hinge being higher that the top was so that if you need to knock out the hinge pin, you can get a pin punch and hammer under it......Of course, many modern hinges don't have removeable pins but the tradition continues.....
'Screw the opposites' on fitting the door handles maybe comes from your apprentice days. It is the way anything is tightened down to fit square on in the same way you would torqueing down one metal fitting to another. Fitting wheels on cars/ trucks or heads on engine blocks or two castings together it is all the same way to get an even fit. Great seeing a professional chippy at work!
Another cracking upload. Enjoyed this series very much. Liking the L3VEL plate too!
Fantastic - just what I needed to know and clearly from a master of his art.
Really helpful video. It's such a pleasure to watch a proper tradesman at work! I'm relieved you showed both ways of cutting out for a hinge, as I begrudge buying a router only for it to gather dust in my garage!
Wow Robin I have watched a few of your videos and having been a builder for nearly 30 years know a good bloke when I see one. But I must say you take it to another level... even taking the doors blood pressure at 7:25.
I find it interesting to watch the subtle differences between your country's standard procedure and mine.
Here in the US, the hinges for an interior door are 5" from the top and 10" from the bottom, door knob 36" from the floor, space between the stop to the door 1/8". Exterior door hinge spacing is 7" from the top & 11" from the bottom.
The reason for the hinge spacing was interesting to hear, I'd always assumed it was to have enough access to pop the pins out from the hinge.
Nice work M8!
Always remember most on the post with hinges wont go wrong. Great videos👍
As an American carpenter, I love hearing the British nomenclature for building products
Great word, had to get my dictionary out for that one
@@pearlreay6778 - something about what no men would do?
Thank you Robin, for another great tutorial. I'm an intuitive hands-on engineer who has figured out too many things the hard way. Your lessons are the perfect mix of history and technical perfection. Then again, your country, rich with tradition, and blessed by so many chapters in "residential construction," makes your TH-cam presentation all the better. I admire your ambidexterity in imperial and metric systems.
Kudos to Skill Builder's superb videography, vital to any tutorial.
Sent from Long Beach, California
Precise and full of knowledge thankuou for sharing it to the world 🙏🏽👍🏾.
I always screw the opposites on door handle screws also and the only reason I can think for me doing this is to confirm squareness of the handle before committing to the others. Strange how we all have these quirks!
@Steve C perhaps I've not been wasting my time then 👍
He's like the nicest guy ever too. Thanks
A proper tradesman, what a pleasure to watch your work 👍🏼
A pleasure to see such good You Tube DIY at last.. Carpentry expertise and sound advice, professionally presented. Well produced video, lovely pictures and sound. Craftsmen at work. I learned a lot, and enjoyed the watch! chapeau!
Thank you Bob we will frame your comment and hang it on the wall after checking carefully for pipes and cables.
'Pull out all the stops' comes from organ-playing, where it means "bring into play every rank of pipes," thereby creating the fullest possible sound.
did you learn that in the making of the soundtrack from Interstellar by any chance?
@@71Splinter, is a terrific, cerebral, even head hurting movie.
@@71Splinter youre lacking in general knowledge not knowing where pull out all the stops comes from.
@@gbwildlifeuk8269 Im sure there is some general knowledge topics you don't know, like how not to be arrogant for example.
Always assumed it came from steam trains, removing the stops somehow made it go faster? I dunno!
Loads for an amateur like me to learn there Robin - thanks for sharing your experience.
FYI - I think 'pulling all the stops out' comes from playing big old pipe organs.
👍Only a proper tradesman carries a gold credit card lol you are a well of knowledge tips & tricks excellent first class as usual 👍
Not any old gold card, but an AmEx gold -- very classy.
New to the channel. Watched the first video this morning on hanging doors. This is excellent! Almost therapeutic whilst at the same time learning new skills and improving my own skill set. I do DIY but I have certainly learnt something new. Thank you.
Outrageous!!. He's 49 and no grey hair. Might I suggest that a reason for the bottom hinge being set at 9 inches from the bottom, (rather than 6 from the top), is due to the fact that the bottom rail, historically, is wider than the top rail and thus means the hinge would not have been cut into the end of the rails tennon joint. I always drill the spindle hole before the latch hole as it doesn't break out inside as much. So good to see a carpenter dressing his screws as well.
Love the reg plate !
I love my Plate!!
@@jrsuk1170 at 0.55
L3VEL
Cant believe i hung the door on my own ......... and it works fine . Cheers Robin
This last three videos have been a great series. I saved them up to watch in one hit, sad sack that I am.
I could watch this all day
Thank you Robin I’m so glad I found your expertise and easy to follow instructions. I class myself as a confident DIYer but have always avoided hanging doors. I had 4 new doors to hang and after watching you I decided I can do that. Rather than paying for it to be done I invested in a router, planner and a new set of chisel’s. Then re watched you several times before taking anything sharp to my new door’s. Got the courage to start and so pleased with myself doors, hinges and fittings all good, oh and thank god for airbag’s the doors heavy and bags made it so much easier. In all a joy to do. So pleased with results and can only thank you for your help.
Wow!
Amazing to see such skilled professionals at work.
Thanks for sharing!
Make interior doors on a cnc machine for a living, I must say that this was really good from an installing a stand point
I greatly enjoyed watching.
love these videos , not a carpenter or even close myself.
oddly my house has 4 hinge internal doors with 5 hinge exterior doors
Another tip . Keep the latch keep forward and chop out the timber a few millimetres behind the keep hole , so the latch is latching on the timber cut rather than tight on the metal keep ... That way if too much paint is applied and the door won’t latch , you can still remove a bit more timber in the hole of the keep without moving the keep , to remain perfect 😀.
The reason Chippy’s are the best trade , is because even the best can still learn a tip every day . 😊
Believe me . I never stop leaning . 👍🏻
Good tip that, I always set my latches on the door a mm off centre towards the keeper. Every time I centre them I get problems and they don’t latch properly 😂
Your idea seems better though gives you a bit of play/room for error
Brilliant set of videos on hanging internal doors. The series is a masterclass. Thanks guys.
I live in Australia but come from west London , and although I love the place and the people only the brits know how to build like you champ, you’ve been a great help to my home Reno’s
Thanks very much
CC in Aus
good to know you are happy there. Too many whingeing poms over here. Oh there I go
Its very interesting watching you fix doors. I have leant a lot about fixing locks & hedges too. Thank you
Great series, it's a pleasure to watch a professional do it right.
Awesome video, ive been a "woodbutcher" for over 20 years and I rarely come across people who have pretty much the same techniques I use, great video, the only difference is how you sharpend your chisel, try an Indian stone, the edge is better and will last longer, those small diamond slip stones are useful but in my experience they damage your tools very quickly.
Hi Robin.....in regards to remembering the way the hinge goes we say 'Most to the post!' and i still say it to myself every time i hang a door! Lol
What a good tip. I will be saying that when I do the remaining 8 doors in this house.
Love that phrase!!
Really great clear, well paced videos. Thank you!
Nice to see how someone else does it . I hang doors basically the same way I like to mark everything with a Stanley knife .. and use the fence on the router for the edge of hinge . ( and a lock jig)
Excellent video!
I used to hang doors exactly this way, learnt from my pops!
But now i dont even use a chisel on the door, i use a very sharp Stanley knife, score around the hinge, them palm router out... perfect hinges every time...
Obviously need to do it the ol skool way on a frame with architrave on it..
Watching this video just took me back to when i was learning from my Dad...
Your the coolest dude on the planet for making this video!
Thanks for this. I've hung doors before as diy but never been shown how pros do it.
Great job Robin. 49 God the years fly by.
Great video, Robin. I learnt a bit there. Cheers from down under in Australia.
I liked the hinge on top of the first shoulder line trick , using that one 👍
I have the bottom hinge up enough so it’s easy to knock the hinge pins out , good to see you were heading the slotted screws as you should.
The most amazing teacher
Great information for people, great channel 👍
Newbie to your channel and I am impressed with your quality of work and explaining the processes as you are going along I am looking forward to seeing more tutorials as time goes on
The fun arises when you’ve got to a fit a new moulded door into a bowed (especially hinge side) and out of square door frame.
That is our next job. Nine more doors to do in the existing frames so all sorts of fun.
@@SkillBuilder Are you going to post a video? I've got 9 to do next week and would love to see how you approach it when the frames aren't square and you can't make them so as the client has already painted ... (PS Did my first half dozen scarf joints over the weekend for a roof over deck extension - easy after watching your other video)
Sorry bu it won't happen fast enough for you. Our turnaround on videos is currently running at 4 weeks.
So true. I've just installed 18 FD60 fire doors to existing frames (some are double door sets), heads are out up to 8mm, jambs bowed up to 6mm, floors running out up to 7mm, the doors are £800 each and you have to achieve 3mm margins all round on 4 sides whilst keeping the vision panel beadings level on the doubles. Messes with your head at times! 😆
Great video. Quality workmanship
very very good video Robin and skill build well done Loads of great tips and detail
👍👍👍👍
Routing is just so much better than chiselling in my opinion, neater, more accurate, safer, much better.
I mark around the hinge with a knife and free hand with a trim router then clean the corners wit a chisel. Quick and perfect every time.
I will never hang a door in my life. Thanks for a wonderfully enjoyable video!
keeping the screw heads in line? Your a gas man Robin! Cracking me up. good job!
Nothing wrong with dressing screws.
Always do it myself.
classic robin clevett craftsman quality content
Regards,
Jamie Davis
Top notch , lovely job 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
I like the way, even for a 10mm cut off the bottom of a door, you mark the waste side - its hardly ambiguous, but clearly experienced tradesmen always love a good habit. : - )
Excellent tutorial. I am about to hang my first complete door and appreciate the tips. Great video. Thank you for the effort.
That's weird i've just watched this before setting off to watch The Doors Alive (A Doors tribute band) HA HA.
Great video Skillbuilder and you always can tell a good joiner when they keep the flat head screws vertical (i was taught to do it like this to make any water run off the screw head to limit rusting.
Experiance always shows through ,good job mate ,your a good tutor
awesome work Robin. i have a door that needs hanging now!!!
Brilliant stuff love the stuff by Robin excellent explanation and methods of execution. Stairs next?
It is so cheap to have stairs made to measure that not many carpenters are making them on site. Do you think installing a kit would be of interest/
@@SkillBuilder Ah i guess that makes sense, but if you are installing a kit sometime I would love to see the best practices around this as i really enjoy learning new skills especially from this excellent channel
@@SkillBuilder Hanging a new door into an old frame would be awesome aswell. Keep up the good work.
Cracking video and good simple instructions. When I did my painting and decorating apprenticeship back in the 70s I remember chippys used a two pence piece to check the door gap on the opening edge 🤔
Now live in a cashless society credit cards have replaced cash in ways nobody expected.
Thats the correct way!!
I use a digestive biscuit (preferably chocolate). And when the customer see’s a choccy Biccy they usually ask if you want a cupper tea. Everyone’s a winner.
awesome video , really like your work robin ,
your better off getting the hinge side of the door liner plumb and fixed and then leaving the header and adjacent side of the liner slightly loose , you can then just cut out the hinges on both liner and door with a hinge jig and router .
after the hinges are cut out you can just hang the door and bring the liner ( handle side and the header ) to the door , put a 3mm spacer on the door top and use that to set the header and the same method with the handle side , then fix the liner in with folding wedges, that way you have a perfect 3mm gap all the way arounf the door with out the need to trim the door itself , !!! its very quick and accurate
works very well with finished doors that can not be trimmed
Absolutely brilliant!! Loved the interaction and editing, as always the camera work was excellent, never knew that 20 minuets could go by so quickly, I was taught to hang doors by my father he used to say “ 6,9, & penny gap “ Once again to the Skill building team “ You Smashed it “ 👍
Thanks Audiostud!!