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  • Philip Tibenham reports from the Republic of Ireland, where a tragicomic tale is unfolding. It's a tale of two football teams - Limerick United and Limerick City, one ground - Markets Field, boardroom battles, recruiting players outside the pub, and a chicken franchise naming snafu.
    To unravel this bewildering tale, Philip chats to Pat Grace - the millionaire owner of both the aforementioned chicken franchise (now known as Pat Grace's Famous Fried Chicken - formerly Kentucky Fried Chicken), which is the principal sponsor of the League of Ireland. Grace has also invested heavily in the Limerick United soccer team, but has recently formed a breakaway side, Limerick City - which he intends to replace United in this season's Pat Grace's Famous Fried Chicken League of Ireland. This has not gone down well with Limerick United die-hards, or indeed the High Court, as former Republic of Ireland international Eamon Dunphy and Limerick United director Mick Crowe explain.
    Clip taken from Sixty Minutes, originally broadcast 1 November, 1983.
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  • @ordetschmordet9227
    @ordetschmordet9227 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    "I'll tell you who sponsored it. I can remember his name. Pat Grace! He's the guy who ran away and left his old club for a young wan."
    - Eamon Dunphy

    • @stephengallagher2209
      @stephengallagher2209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Ah now, Eamonn, you can't be sayin' dat now."

    • @Kianmur
      @Kianmur วันที่ผ่านมา

      That was Dunphy’s rant when speaking about Rod Liddle when he wrote an article about Roy Keane.
      "I'll tell you who wrote it, I can remember his name. Rod Liddle. He's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one."
      What Classic Dunphy 😂

  • @electroid8119
    @electroid8119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    5:10 I admire the upfront honesty

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    This documentary is like gold dust. I used to go to the family farm in Limerick in the 1970s and 80s when Gaelic and Hurling was the game. When I returned in the 1990s Ireland was Football mad and there was a soccer pitch built across the lane from my grandfathers farm. I salute you Pat Grace for turning football from a barracks room game into a national sport!

    • @johnq4951
      @johnq4951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And now we're in the 2020s and Soccer is back to being third place in Ireland. Swings and roundabouts.

    • @RB-NZ2
      @RB-NZ2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnq4951soccer most definitely isn’t third. Rugby has far overtaken it in the last decade.

    • @johnq4951
      @johnq4951 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RB-NZ2 I agree, rugby would be number 2

    • @johnnyk6460
      @johnnyk6460 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Soccer is number 4 now.

    • @oliver69cork46
      @oliver69cork46 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@johnq4951no its not,the most played and supporter sport. Only professionnal sports league in ireland

  • @MLSNYC88
    @MLSNYC88 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To whomever is uploading these - thank you! They are a wonderful reminder of why I love the BBC.

  • @HPLovecraftsCat87
    @HPLovecraftsCat87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The audacity to consume any fried poultry in Limerick that isn't Chicken Hut.

    • @hris-wv3yu
      @hris-wv3yu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is Chicken Hut the big name in limerick?

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But wasn’t Pat Grace’s the original. Chicken Hut is a Johnny-come-lately. You can buy bags of Pat Grace’s stuff now to make at home.

    • @NickyHogan92
      @NickyHogan92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's one of the same, just the name over the door has changed but Chicken hut used to be Pat Grace's. The seasoning used in Chicken hut is still supplied by the Grace family and recipes are still the same as far as I know.

    • @stephengallagher2209
      @stephengallagher2209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You stay classy, Limerick.

    • @techfitguinness
      @techfitguinness หลายเดือนก่อน

      Underrated comment

  • @user-sp5pi9pg6x
    @user-sp5pi9pg6x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A real gem of a documentary

  • @Rasle500
    @Rasle500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Back when shorts were actually short…

    • @electroid8119
      @electroid8119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In some cases too short 😮

  • @TtableWhey
    @TtableWhey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Is the reporter using the word "Irish" as a pejorative? Wow. 1983.

    • @Chief_Brody
      @Chief_Brody 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha yes the good old days

    • @Porkcylinder
      @Porkcylinder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nowhere near as bad as the word ‘soccer’

    • @jamesharrington809
      @jamesharrington809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "The truly Irish thing..." Condescending prick.

    • @Dermot2927
      @Dermot2927 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unacceptable now, I know, but my own mother used to use that expression with me when I was growing up in Dublin. It was more nuanced than “thick”, it meant apparently confused and nonsensical but actually making sense if you dug down - you know, the cliche of the “cute hoor”, seemingly slow-witted but shrewd and sharp on the sly (see the recent dreadful Obama produced movie set in Ireland).

    • @tommydowling9
      @tommydowling9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My Ma still uses it.. ironically that feels a bit Irish in and of itself given she's insulting herself 😀

  • @komodosp
    @komodosp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "... and if that sounds Irish, it is!" LOL! 🤦‍♂️

  • @a34rwl
    @a34rwl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    'It is unique' Yeah, apart from AC and Inter Milan ps. We met Philip on holiday in Torquay. Nice man, he sent us a Christmas card.

  • @25pappy
    @25pappy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Is that an instrumental of THE BANKS OF MY OWN LOVELY LEE? If so...wrong City BBC. This is Limerick, not Cork.

  • @gomey70
    @gomey70 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Blind Boy should do a pod about this lol.

    • @mmw4990
      @mmw4990 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's definitely talked about the chicken shop story before

    • @tomfoley4196
      @tomfoley4196 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He claimed in 2018 that he didn’t know limerick were in the hurling final so I doubt he’ll be doing a podcast on a soccer team

  • @Thorlongus1175
    @Thorlongus1175 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    3:30 Pat Grace not a good Fried Chicken Baron, a great Fried Chicken Baron , Eamonn Dunphy

    • @anfeariontach
      @anfeariontach 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      you have to take every fried chicken on its merits there bill

    • @eddiemcgovern5352
      @eddiemcgovern5352 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This chicken is a cod

  • @subsoil007
    @subsoil007 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At this time there was a JCB driver called JP plotting his way to beat the bookies.

  • @CianODonnell
    @CianODonnell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well that wasnt confusing at all.

  • @stephengallagher2209
    @stephengallagher2209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, the KFCLI? I thought Dunpho made that chicken league jibe up when he was pushing for relocating Wimbeldon to Dublin. Pat Grace's Famous Fried Chicken League of Ireland? 😂

  • @lkrnpk
    @lkrnpk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kentucky Fried Chicken League of Ireland :D

    • @Beanbag777
      @Beanbag777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      #greatestleagueintheworld

  • @komodosp
    @komodosp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    although £25,000 isn't much to suffer a ridiculous name like the "Kentucky Fried Chicken League of Ireland", even in 1983 money...

  • @TheLastAngryMan01
    @TheLastAngryMan01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This comes across as a mockumentary.

  • @OscarOSullivan
    @OscarOSullivan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    2 clubs is minor compared to the 5 major rugby union clubs at the time and still exist Shannon RFC, Garryowen FC, Young Munster and UL Bohemians.

    • @Woody-Island
      @Woody-Island 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Old Crescent.

    • @fonz114
      @fonz114 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the Best underage club in the country by a mile in the 90s and 2000s Bruff RFC

  • @criostoirocuinn
    @criostoirocuinn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    0:47 & 5:54 The typical condesending BBC racism coming through there

  • @alancawfield6549
    @alancawfield6549 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This has been a problem with the domestic game in general in Ireland.Too many teams in the same area.There are 2 League of Ireland teams in Cork, 2 in the Southeast, 3 in the Northwest and there used to be 2 in Galway City as well.Really could have done with organizing the game better and having a more even spread of League of Ireland teams throughout the country.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The teams aren’t franchises. Areas with more soccer had more teams. It wasn’t about spreading them around evenly.

    • @alancawfield6549
      @alancawfield6549 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dreyno I know that but they probably need to look for an approach like franchising and spreading the teams around more evenly in order to make the league thrive more.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alancawfield6549 But places like Kilkenny and even Galway have teams. But the interest is split too many ways with other sports to sustain a soccer team at the “top” (🤭) level.
      Sligo is an aberration being a town of its size that is completely soccer orientated.

    • @25pappy
      @25pappy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd wager the top junior teams in the locality would beat the now Senior LOI team Treaty United.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@25pappy I don’t know. The step up in physicality and being closed down so quickly is usually something young players struggle with when they start playing at that level. I think they’d just get bullied a bit and lose.

  • @eddieomahony507
    @eddieomahony507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weston villa

  • @paddypenman2682
    @paddypenman2682 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You crossed the road chicken

  • @minihama
    @minihama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    "The truly Irish thing about this story." FFS. And the BBC is putting this guff online. You wouldn't see it in the Daily Mail.

    • @rickoneillable
      @rickoneillable หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was more than 40 years ago

    • @minihama
      @minihama หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickoneillable Did they post it on TH-cam 40 years ago?

  • @johnathanryan2117
    @johnathanryan2117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Get Big Sam in....

    • @jackcleary500
      @jackcleary500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He did do a solid job as player manager for promotion back to the top flight in 91/92 haha

  • @pressureworks
    @pressureworks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So what eventually happened ?????

    • @johnhehir508
      @johnhehir508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Limerick FC

    • @pressureworks
      @pressureworks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnhehir508 does that answer the question ??

    • @richie74wells
      @richie74wells 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pressureworksLimerick United became limerick city, then it became limerick FC

    • @VeniVidiVicous
      @VeniVidiVicous หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richie74wells and from that to Treaty United?

  • @80sandretrogubbins25
    @80sandretrogubbins25 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sixty Minutes eh? Crashed and burned in about 8 months.

  • @christianmccann9400
    @christianmccann9400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    50 pound a week per player .. wtf lol

  • @TrueFilter
    @TrueFilter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Sounds Irish? Christ.

    • @memofromessex
      @memofromessex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lervish1966 Pipe in mouth, porter in one hand and a pig under the other ☺

    • @dontevenlook
      @dontevenlook 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      brits at it

    • @michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373
      @michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No christ was a jewnot a mick

  • @Portsoffall
    @Portsoffall หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KFC league of Ireland 😂

  • @johnhehir508
    @johnhehir508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Limerick city is not a town ,

    • @Jimbojanko17
      @Jimbojanko17 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a shithole

  • @treatyman25
    @treatyman25 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    English c&(ts

  • @HandleGF
    @HandleGF 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Limerick... the horror

  • @mickdev007
    @mickdev007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SOCCER?????

    • @HandleGF
      @HandleGF 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what it was most commonly called before Murdoch bought it.

    • @RB-NZ2
      @RB-NZ2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Ireland has its own football (Gaelic) more popular than association football. It’s called soccer here and nobody bats an eye when it’s called that.

    • @donalobrien9422
      @donalobrien9422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Refreshing to hear an English voice calling the sport soccer, which it was quite commonly called in England up to 50 years ago

    • @thurmanmerman2720
      @thurmanmerman2720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @donalobrien9422 Yes soccer, the name of Assocciation footbal used to distinguish it from all other forms of football. This appropriation of the word "football" by soccer fans is both disrespectful and inappropriate. Now I'm off to get some KFC!

    • @gavintuesday4959
      @gavintuesday4959 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yep, “football” is a different sport in Ireland, Gaelic football. Same in Australia , that have their own form of football (AFL) They call it footie