1st caller said the Jews didnt associate partner with God... Didnt dumb momo said in the quran that the jews said Ezra is the Son of Allah? Thats not associating partner? 😅
@@psykevactive9114Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😅
@@Jackson-kq4ro that simply means in one accord. When the Bible says a man and a woman are one when they get married does that magically make them the same person no it doesn’t. It simply means works as one toward the same goal or having the same mindset.
@Rj-wy8nk The Word is God made flesh. The Father is just a Spirit. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit who proceeds from the Father. Therefore because the Father is not Flesh but a Spirit, The WORD is not just Spirit but also flesh, and The Spirit is the divine Spirit who comes forth from the Father making The Father, The WORD, and the Spirit three distinct persons who make up this ONE being who we call God. Which the Bible says are ONE. Look at the word "ONE" in the context of plurality and distinction.
It is so painful listening to these clowns who panic and refuse to answer the simplest most direct possible questions. The guy at the end, Avery asks, What dd I say. First words of his answer..........I said Demonic stupidity, demonic dishonesty, demonic ignorance. Pray for these lost souls. God bless you Avery.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
1:06:50 “Monarchical Trinitarianism, also referred to as the “Monarchy of the Father,” is a theological perspective that asserts the Father as the sole source (or monarch) within the Trinity. This view maintains a clear distinction of roles among the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit while upholding their unity in essence.” …. Luke J. Wilson
There was a time that I didn’t like using the word, “Trinity” and that was exactly how I described the Godhead, I believe “Monarchical Trinity” would help non-believers to understand the divinity of The Son very easily.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
The Father who is Jesus. Sent his son who is Jesus. And Jesus who is the father did the will of his father. Then the father sent Jesus who is also the father the Holy Spirit who is also the father to dwell in the believers. So the Father sends the Father to do the will of the Father and the Father sends the Father and he will only do what he hears from the father. And oneness is true but at Jesus baptism it was the father who is the dove who came down on Jesus who is the father and the father spoke also to the father saying that is his son and he is well pleased. There I explained oneness theology for anyone who doesn’t understand.
The proper definition, I think, is: One God, His Word, and His Spirit. He, as the source, assumes the Father persona and His word assumes the Son persona, while his Holy Spirit assumes the Spirit persona as revealed in God's dealings and interaction with mankind.
Nah that would imply they're ontologically separate and that the word only came to be when the father spoke it . They aren't separate Jesus says that him and his father are one. Also the word cannot be made Because everything that was made was made through the word . John 1:3 So if the word was made the word would have to be made through itself because it says everything that was made was made through the word.
Avery congratulations on your channel growing, can't wait for Friday's stream having DW, IP and AP on the channel. None of the Dawah boys will answer the challenge. The second Muslim caller does not understand that the word "only" modifies "true God" and as a Trinitarian I do believe that the father is the only true God (because there are no other gods) however this does not exclude the deity of the Son or the Holy Spirit. This means that for me as a trinitarian the Son is the only true God, and it would be true of the Holy Spirit as well. This is because all three persons of the trinity is the only true God. The Muslim would have had an argument is Jesus had said that the Father alone is the only true God that would have excluded the Son and the Holy Spirit. But since Jesus said the father is the only true God it simply means that Jesus recognizes the deity of the father. Kelvin Greene is incorrect in his assertion that Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, however it does seem that he himself is a monarchial trinitarian.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
You agree because you’re a Muslim. It’s because you want a God that you can wrap your head around. The beauty of the trinity is that it reflects how God is-not to be 100% understood.
@@jamesjones11301994Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
@luqmanmuhammad802 "1 God, his Word and his Spirit! I agree and I am Muslim" - Do you agree that the Word and the Holy Spirit are distinct persons from the father?.
I have reached the point where I just skip the parts where the trinity is the subject. It is tiring to hear a clear explanation supported by cited biblical verses that can’t be taken out of context and people still don’t understand or they understand and still reject it.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John 17:3 needs to be read in context to fully appreciate what Jesus was saying in that prayer. The contrast is not between the Father and the Son but between the Father and the world’s false gods and idols. Jesus is conversing with the Father who is in heaven while Jesus is on earth. Jesus’ statement that the Father is the only true God should not be seen as contradictory or inconsistent with the whole of the Bible, which supports the fact Jesus Christ is God.
Grasping a straws you are . Your arguement is a false equivalence arguement. Jesus never says he is God , there are verses you claim he's claiming he's God big difference. Most of them are interpreted that way because you guys like the Pharisees make the same mistake. For eg. John 8 vs 58 Joh 8:58 AKJV Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am. On the surface ripped from it context it sounds like it says that But Jesus is replying to the question(s) from john 8vs 53. Joh 8:53 AKJV Are you greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom make you yourself? Was Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham and the Prophets?? Yes he was , he was not saying he was God. Tell me something cam God be tempted by evil and sin? No he cannot james 1 vs 13 makes that very clear. Jas 1:13 AKJV+ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man: Jas 1:14 AKJV+ But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Jesus was tempted in all points as we are , in fact he suffered temptation as is shown in heb 2 vs 17 -18. Therefore Jesus is not God. That's how you back up an arguement, not make a whole lot of statements and claims and never show the from the #1 authority your reasoning. You never backed up your reasoning from scripture.
Jesus does say the Father is the true God but he also says believe in you the only true God AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent. It’s inclusive speech, incorporating the Father and Jesus under the title of ‘only true God’
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@ that has nothing to do with my point. So since you have not dealt with my point I’ll assume you cannot so in the case of that verse it is clear in John that Jesus is saying the true God is the Father and the Son.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
45:00 this oneness idea, never heard of it explained but he’s got me having to build a whole separate arsenal. Been focusing on JWs Mormonism, and Islam, whew! Taking notes Avery, taking notes!
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@@abdorahim6435 1. Moses said it, not God. 2. The Hebrew says young women 3. Nothing in this verse mentions rape not is it implied. Rape was a sin deserving of death. Dt. 22:25
I like Kelvin Greene and that’s how I explain the Godhead to people to understand it better. That is, The Father is God, however, His Word came out of His being Who is The Son Who became Flesh (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father.
@edward1412 Either way, that's a Trinity. However, I'm not sure that this as clear-cut as that. I'm not so sure that The Son literally came forth from the Father's being. If this is true then wouldn't that mean that there was a time in eternity past when Christ wasn't a distinct personality? If you say yes than that's not scriptural. Its An honest question.
@ I understand your question perfectly and at times I ask myself the same question. This is why some believe that the Father begot the Son from Eternity past. I’m not sure if that means The Son has always being distinct from The Father from eternity or there was a time that The Word and The Spirit were alive together within The Father’s being until The Father revealed them where we got the distinctiveness. This might be a bad example, but it’s like how I’ve a body, soul and spirit which makes me as one being but later I revealed my spirit and my soul out from my being for them to become distinct from me.
Just in case you want to expound on this more. Augustine wrote, "The Father is the only true God in the sense that He is the source of divinity, and the Son, who is begotten from the Father, is also truly God, as He shares the Father’s essence." This aligns with his doctrine of the consubstantiality (same substance) of the Father and the Son. I've checked and most of the church fathers held this view. Well, I say most, but all the ones I checked said i'm just leaving a possibility that someone had a different view, but I did not see that different view.
1:19:45 I can see where he is coming from. A lot of well meaning people may speak incorrectly or understand incorrectly. The trinity is a very complicated concept. We all start lost.
1st caller was speaking low cos he's called before and you kicked him because of his dishonesty and arrogance. He created a new account to come back...
I HAVE never had an issue with the trininty because there is no limits to God i thank God that i dont have to comprehend everything when you realise faith is enough otherwise God would only call the smart people these callers express such religous arrogance that wont get them anywhere 🤣
In the Gospel of Matthew 28 verse 62 The High Priest charged Jesus to tell them whether He was The Son of God which means they knew that God has a Son .
I would say that we will have a body built in Glory..that doesn't necessarily have flesh...but when Jesus came back from the tomb...and His body (Flesh and Blood) was able to drink so...I don't see that the Spirit that is God is not without Substance....
I didn't get a chance to chat with you. I was waiting but had to go. Would love to chat about the "trinity" vs "oneness". A great scripture to discuss is Matthew 28:19
@xlcrazyeyelx ......For There Are Three That Bare Witness in Heaven......The Father......The Word=Jesus......And The Holy Ghost=Holy Spirit.....All Three Are Almighty God.....Holy Holy Holy.....God Almighty....
The 1st caller and his appeal to the Jews. Dude the 1st Christians were all Jews. We have the Jewish interpretation which is a Christian interpretation.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
While we are told to die to the flesh... as a representative of someone that presents Himself as doing the work....He let the Flesh die. Now the Son (God IN Flesh) God with us... did die. The Spirit returned to the Source (The Father) The Son took the sin of the world upon Himself and knows best how to deal with it. A selfishness we as humans could not fully comprehend....but are encouraged to fully embrace. The Father didn't die on the cross...but the Son did...but only for a time... 3 days later (on the 3rd day) Sin was defeated and so was death...for Him. As the first Fruit. I've had fun with oneness theology only to mock it...but I know that this approach often makes people think I'm not speaking in truth and love. I know I'm not a fan of TULIP system either.... Lots of interpretations out there...when Jesus said there is only one way... Thanks for what you're doing! God's Only Son Permits Eternal Life! 😇🙏💪
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John ( Hamza’s dad) Hamza Ali Dawah Mosa Adnan Ali Dawah Sheik Muslim Lantern The three Muslim Central Dawah Isa Dawah Sheik Uthman Deen respond Ramzi (Dawah over Dunia) Mustafa (Stratford england0 Siraj (Speaker’s corner) Mansor (Speaker’s corner) Muslim Cowboy And others, on top, most of these conversations is Godlogic going to their platform! So Muslim need to stop asking why Godlogic doesn’t debate their best, unless they believe all those named above a clueless. How about telling their Dawah big guys to come to speak to Godlogic? His been to theirs many times. People like Jake, Farid and Abdul Response rather than making video reacting to Godlogic with their weak objections so the can views and money from Godlogics name, tell them to come on speak to him!
It's a crying shame and an embarrassment that Avery has to not only explain their religion but, is also tasked with explaining the English language to someone who sounds as if English is their first language...🙄
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
Yeah 🤣🤣🤣, but it backfired when he tried disputing the fact that Jesus was the Son before creation. Dude claimed that Jesus was flesh and all things were created through Him. Lol
Kelvin is not a trinitarian. He seems to hold to an Arian view of God where the Son and the Spirit are emanations of the Father and derive their deity from Him. That's heresy.
What’s more important, Christian’s calling in and asking Avery questions that they themselves can get from the Bible or even ask their pastor? Or is it more important that Avery focuses on non Christian’s to try to bring them to the truth? At the end of the day winning souls to Christ is the goal.
Dear Avery, you ended the call when the caller could not explain Hebews 1, 2. 49:43 and I know the caller acted negative towards you partially (on the other hand he called you Sir) , so I understand you got angry. however Abduls are not smarter than Oneness Christians. Oneness christians are also christians as they believe in Christ divinity and the christian scripture, they are definite smarter than abduls. we shall not act negative among christians and call each other pagans, I know the caller started that BS, - but eye for an eye is not the right reaction, instead you both should discuss with respect. Respectful loving behavior among brothers is what Jesus taught for example in matthew 5,22. if you think he was a troll you should have exposed that, but obviously you did not think he was a troll, you simple thought he is oneness christian/modalist and you called him pagan and abuls are smarter than him, because he called you pagan before. he sinned, but imo you kind of sinned too, if we suppose that he was a christian and not just a troll ✝
Try to talk every day to idiots morons dishonest people that insult you insult your faith we will see how good of a Christian you are if you can skip all this emotions than you are maybe a robot? Becouse i can understand Avery and it was not like he was going tottaly in on this guy with insults!!!!!And yes Avery has right to call him pagan its not a word that insults !!!!! And sombody belives in Oneness its not a Christian sir he simply not a Christian!!!!!!!Sorry for my English
@@kocur-ul9ku a) that is why I wrote : so I understand you got angry. That means I understand he got angry because the caller acted very negative in parts. b) Oneness christians are also christians, they believe in divinity of Jesus and the Gospel. that is the FACT. you cannot bear false witness, and also you cannot judge. only God can judge who a true christian is, but if you believe in the Gospel , then you are a christian.
@@timnic9242 firstly no, oneness are not Christian’s because they deny the personhood of the son. The early Christian’s believed this and they were known as heretics. The Being of God is an important doctrine. If one knowingly denies the personhood of the Son distinct from the Father they are infact heretics. Scripture clearly presents the son as distinct from the father in terms of personhood.
@@universe8649 you cannot judge who is a true christian, you are not God. the early christians are the Apostles, they never said what you said, so you making your own arrogant judgment about people who believe in ths gospel. the way you judge , you will be judged matthew 7, 1-2 . and catholic trinitarians call the Pope Holy Father when clearly Jesus has forbidden to call anyone Father except God.
Isaiah 48:16; John 1:1-2(Father, Son, Holy Spirit); Revelation 22:1-2….. all 3 scriptures show and Confirm 1 John 5:7(KJV). They are 3 separate entities. Elohiym is plural. Elohiym is a title not their names.
@Kanabel-d7o Lol no it isn't. The revelation of the Trinity is a progressive revelation that took thousands of years to be revealed. God has allowed people to believe in the oneness of God since the dawn of human civilization post-Adam and Eve. He's also allowed people to believe in his plurality of nature. God has always had one major rule tho. I am one God and there is no one else besides me. In biblical times some saw this one being called God as one person. While others viewed this one being called God as a plural being. What mattered was that you worshiped the one and true living God... Yahweh. Whether or not you have full revelation of his divine nature.
Debating with people of different religions, which are man made, and both of you agreeing that what you study is %100 truth and anything outside of them is false is ignorant. Because the text in those doctrines are from history. How can you do your research and say it's true without doing your research which comes from outside those doctrine.
JESUS =TRUE GOD read 1st John 5:20 1 John 5:20 says, "And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the TRUE GOD and eternal life .
Can't nail the Spirit to the cross... just like the earth that we are on presently and all humans aren't figments of God's imagination (ideas)... Oneness can sound good in some spots...but when letting all of Scripture interpreting Scripture... it falls apart.
First John states that three testify in heaven: the Father, the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST. These three are one! The Father is a Spirit. The WORD is divine incarnate. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit that proceeds from God the Father. The Father is not flesh, so He is not the WORD. The WORD is not merely Spirit, so He is neither the Father nor the HOLY GHOST. The HOLY GHOST proceeds from the Father, meaning He is not the Father or the Son. These are three distinct persons who together constitute one being called God.
John 8:54, Jesus says that if He glorifies Himself, it means nothing. (Since you believe Jesus is The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit) Who is glorifying Jesus?
Brother logic. Jesus is the father where you like it or not.if u watch pastor jeno jennings. Y ll never bealve trinity again. It's blasphemy to say person holy spirit ❤period 💯 there is not God besides him. Our God is jealous God 🙏 no one God besides him. I was orthodox Christian ☦️ I have seen pastor jennings over 2 years. I became warship and accepted Jesus is the father. Please 🙏 I am encouraged you to watch the pastor 🙏. There is no make sense. The trinity. It's not even in the bible. God tells us to be Holly according to scripture.
Jesus is not the father unless you are saying he prays to himself and is his own god that makes no sense. You would also be saying that he sits on the right hand of himself how does one do that.he himself said there is but one true god his father in heaven. I will trust his words and not a fake doctrine create by men
How difficult is this! 1 John 5:7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. John 1:14, which states, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us The word became Jesus! Are you this stupid? 😂😂😂. Until you see Jesus has the Word, You will never, Timothy 3:16 King James Version (KJV)And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Your problem 2 peter 1vs20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture becomes a matter of someone’s own interpretation Meaning Scriptures are interpreted by Scriptures.. Monotheism - is not the believe that God is ONE but the believe in ONE GOD! Sovereignty!!!! HOWEVER, I THINK ITS STUPID FOR ANYONE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN GOD, YOU CANT EXPLAIN GOD AND A BOOK CAN'T ENTIRELY EXPLAIN GOD, BUT THE REVELATION YOU GOT IN PART, IT'S ENOUGH, IT A MISTERY FOR THE HUMAN MIND! The Father is God, The Word is God and The Spirit is God and All ARE in UNITY!...
Just because you're a Unitarian this does not disqualify that individual as a Christian. There are difference of opinions wirh different views about what the scripture says and unfortunately that's a human flaw. We have different Christians like the Salvation Army to Protestants to Evangelical and many others. When Jesus returns much will be revealed that will surprise even the most devout Christian.
Yes there is a distinction. As also mentioned in Daniel 7:13-14. The son of man (Jesus) was brought before the ancient of days ( God almighty) , and was given dominion, glory , and a kingdom that all people, nation and languages should serve him .
@@constancemitchell3065 We are told that in 1 Corinthians 15 that the Kingdom will be given to Jesus for 1,000yrs before he steps down and gives the Kingdom to God his father.
Love this brothers teaching, no muslim can come with made up stories or even perons who denies the trinity... may God continue to bles you bro with such patience and knowledge.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
Dear Avery, you are getting in your negative feelings - Proof: you say a Muslim is smarter than a oneness (christian/modalist) 51:54 😲 1) first of all it is not true at all for the abduls are not smarter than oneness christians/modalists , you shall not bear false witness. 2) also you cannot say he is not a christian for the caller said he believes in Jesus divinity and Gospel, which is way smarter and closer to your belief than what Abduls say. this is the FACT , and christian stick to facts. 3) you are showing hostility towards christians with a different view what Jesus has forbidden, and bearing false witness ist also forbidden. and I know the caller made fun of you partially and provoked you, he also beared false witness against you, so you might say I am doing to him what he is doing to me, eye for an eye - but that is not what Jesus taught. that is why in general we must be very careful when we discuss christian topics with other christians. as Jesus said: that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment;...and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire. matthew 5, 22 p.s. if you think the caller was a troll that would be a different case, but you did not treat him like a troll and you made the general false judgment that oneness christians/modalists are not as smart as abduls.
Bro, you said a lot but with little substance! You don't have to play the victim game. Oneness modalists are not CHRISTIANS!!! Wish I had the time to say more, but Avery has said it all. If you need to become a robot to defend an idea, then you are worse than an abdool. We have seen some abdools go from point A to B like Godlogic said.
@@Edago-bg2mc you are lying and sinning and you want to judge who a true christian is and who not ? HILARIOUS. you dont understand christianity if you think you can judge that. Jesus said:. dont judge (your brother) or you too will be judged., matthew 7, 1
@@Edago-bg2mc 11 Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor? (James 4 )
@@Edago-bg2mc absolutely wrong. a Oneness christian believes in the Gospel , the Son , The Father, the Holy Spirit, Crucifixion etc. that is NOT comparable to Islam.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls 😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
Then you’re not far away from being a Christian. I always explain the Godhead as how Kelvin Greene explained it as people seem to understand it better in that way.
Yeshua is God... According to the Scriptures. But according to my research and my relationship with the Spirit of God, so are you... And me... And everyone else that's ever been born and ever will be born. Our temporal bodies are the only thing that can contain the Spirit of God. Apart from God, we have a consciousness and an awareness that separates us from that knowledge. Once we die and shed this temporal body, our spirits return to the Spirit of God and we become God. But we lose that conciseness, and that awareness that is who we are today. You won't be you and I won't be me. We become God. Period. We become as One.
JJESUS IS GOD TO THE DOGS,THE PAGANS,THE GENTILES AND TO THE BLACKS.ALSO TO THE DISCIPLES OF PAUL,WHOM PAUL NAMED CHRISTIANS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ANTIOCH.BEFORE PAUL THERE WERE NO CHRISTIANS.AND CHRISTIANITY WAS NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE!
So what is they were called Christian first at Antioch? By the way Paul didn’t name them Christian, he acknowledged in his writing that they were first called Christians at Antioch however it was originally a term of insult that didn’t originate with Paul but actually the enemies of Christ. Our faith was without name originally being the fulfilment of the Jewish scriptures being referred to as ‘the Way’ and you’re damn right he’s God to the ‘blacks’ but damn, I’m glad I belong to a God who isn’t a racist like you. Why write in all caps? You just look crazy and there is so much wrong in what you’ve said. You can keep whatever your religion is to yourself as if you can’t be chill in a comment section I worry about you in real life.
So 3 Godslogic was says can you pray to you father??? What about this? Jesus says my father and your father my god and your god!!! This is after the Resurrection!!! Which Jesus was meant to be fully God!!! So either Jesus is claiming he is not god and not the biological son or Jesus is also god but he was scared to say it!!! So you really need to choose 1 god or 2 gods? John 20:17, it states: "Jesus said to her, ‘Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’"
You guys are so confused about the Trinity. As a man in the flesh, Jesus submits himself to his father and his God. But in his spiritual essence, he's divine which means that he shares in the divine nature of the father. As a human, he can speak of God in human terms. But because he shares in the divine nature of the Father he can also participate in the Father's divinity. Jesus has a dual nature.
A new heaven and new earth which is a new world and a new creation. Just like Jesus is the 2 Adam this is obviously referring to a new creation. Avery just stop it!! The gentleman was totally right!! I know you think you have it all wrapped up but you're sadly mistaken.
He was not right lol. The guy completely committed a contradiction. He first said that Jesus is the Father. But then said that Jesus created the earth in the flesh. When Avery asked if this flesh is the father he said no. Which means that Jesus isn't the father. If he says the flesh was the father then there's another contradiction. Because he said the father was the spirit. 😂😂😂
@@Jackson-kq4ro I don't know what you're talking about there but as for the new creation where we have the first Adam and the 2nd Adam this is what he was referring to in relation to a new world and a new creation. Jesus was made a quickening spirit which means he was given the spirit to lead him and to direct him with the power of the Holy Spirit whereas for Adam he was of the earth and was governed or ruled by earthy desires he was carnally minded as the Apostle Paul refers in Romans 6 when clearly illustrating the difference between the mind of the flesh and the mind of the spirit. Through Jesus life, death and resurrection a new way was made open to salvation for all nations, all people and from every tongue or language. Through Adam all die as he was of the ground earthy.
@UtopiaBlue68 He said that the Son created the worlds as a fleshly person. If this is true he literally contradicts himself. Because if Jesus and the Father are the same person. Then the Father would be flesh. But thats a contradiction because according to him, the Father can't be a fleshly person because he's fully Spirit.
It will be Jesus peace be upon him who will Reject you and your blasphemy on the day of Judgement Quran 5:116 And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.
Haha this is hilarious. Your false religion came 7 centuries later and tries to claim Jesus. It’s utterly ridiculous. From a historical standpoint, it’s absurd that you can say anything about Jesus . Everything you know about him comes from the gospels. Jesus started Christianity. The apostles took his teachings and spread the true gospel. You’re living a lie Muslim. You will burn in hell unless you humble yourself and recognize that Christ is lord.
Who is Allah? 😂😂😂. The mohammedan god. How comes Mohammed, Allah, issa, Marry, etc. All spoke in the same way, Allah said O! Marry said O, Issa said O, moses said O😂😂😂😂.Quran is not revelation but a Poetry
@@jamesjones11301994 Jesus started Christianity? Then why he did not say he is Christian or call his Deciples Christians? Why did he not write the Gospels? Why was your New Testament put together 3-4 hundred years later?
@@MU-we8hz I’m not a muslim nor a Christian nor any of these man made religious. I belong to Jesus as his disciple. I’m a disciple of Jesus That’s what he taught
What would it mean if Jesus was speaking to Avery saying , You, Avery are the only Avery? Would that mean he's saying Jesus and Avery are the same? You got cooked Avery 😂😂 Jesus shared the same ideals, views, opinions as his father. Avery you dont understand what David was saying about the lord because you're a heart hearted person who finds it difficult to accept when you're wrong and because of this you'll never accept anything different that opposes your own understanding.
You are not making sense.. can you reference Scriptures to show you atleast know the Scriptures not your opinion? Psalm 110:1: “The LORD said to my Lord, 'Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet Matthew 22vs44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
You Muslims are so brainwashed it’s impossible to ask a Muslim a question you ask them about bananas they answer about beef steaks zero focus or capable to hold a conversation brain is so slow but again the Muslim believes Satan sleeps in their nose and all other idiotic fairytale stories in Islam ohh the sun sets in muddy water 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 endless stupidly 😅😅😅😅
1st caller said the Jews didnt associate partner with God... Didnt dumb momo said in the quran that the jews said Ezra is the Son of Allah? Thats not associating partner? 😅
They are just plain fools..They really think the world is stupid...😂
@@psykevactive9114fr
That's what happens to their brain when they follow the semen covered pedophet.
Look how he destroyed his prophet
@@psykevactive9114Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😅
"I and my father are one" -Jesus
There are three who bear witness in heaven. The FATHER, The WORD, and THE HOLY GHOST.
@@Jackson-kq4ro finish the verse
@@Jackson-kq4rofinish the verse
@@Jackson-kq4ro that simply means in one accord. When the Bible says a man and a woman are one when they get married does that magically make them the same person no it doesn’t. It simply means works as one toward the same goal or having the same mindset.
@Rj-wy8nk
The Word is God made flesh. The Father is just a Spirit. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit who proceeds from the Father.
Therefore because the Father is not Flesh but a Spirit, The WORD is not just Spirit but also flesh, and The Spirit is the divine Spirit who comes forth from the Father making The Father, The WORD, and the Spirit three distinct persons who make up this ONE being who we call God. Which the Bible says are ONE. Look at the word "ONE" in the context of plurality and distinction.
As we are created in God's image, in his likeness, we have the quality of being alike in attitude, character, and action.
Muslim logic -
The Bible is not trustworthy, but a PDF file is. 🙃
Died 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is so painful listening to these clowns who panic and refuse to answer the simplest most direct possible questions.
The guy at the end, Avery asks, What dd I say. First words of his answer..........I said
Demonic stupidity, demonic dishonesty, demonic ignorance.
Pray for these lost souls.
God bless you Avery.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
Thank you so much for this wonderful podcast it has been a complete blessing to me.
1:06:50 “Monarchical Trinitarianism, also referred to as the “Monarchy of the Father,” is a theological perspective that asserts the Father as the sole source (or monarch) within the Trinity. This view maintains a clear distinction of roles among the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit while upholding their unity in essence.” …. Luke J. Wilson
There was a time that I didn’t like using the word, “Trinity” and that was exactly how I described the Godhead,
I believe “Monarchical Trinity” would help non-believers to understand the divinity of The Son very easily.
Ahhhh I need to be on thisss one 🤣, hoping you do this next Wednesday
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
The Father who is Jesus. Sent his son who is Jesus. And Jesus who is the father did the will of his father. Then the father sent Jesus who is also the father the Holy Spirit who is also the father to dwell in the believers. So the Father sends the Father to do the will of the Father and the Father sends the Father and he will only do what he hears from the father. And oneness is true but at Jesus baptism it was the father who is the dove who came down on Jesus who is the father and the father spoke also to the father saying that is his son and he is well pleased.
There I explained oneness theology for anyone who doesn’t understand.
@@kennynoNope literally that’s what they believe
The proper definition, I think, is:
One God, His Word, and His Spirit. He, as the source, assumes the Father persona and His word assumes the Son persona, while his Holy Spirit assumes the Spirit persona as revealed in God's dealings and interaction with mankind.
Nah that would imply they're ontologically separate and that the word only came to be when the father spoke it .
They aren't separate Jesus says that him and his father are one.
Also the word cannot be made Because everything that was made was made through the word . John 1:3
So if the word was made the word would have to be made through itself because it says everything that was made was made through the word.
يسوع المسيح هو الله ❤ هو رب الكون خالق الكون
الملعون في الكتاب المقدس
I have outmost respect for you Avery, your patient dealing with stupidity is TOTALLY unmatched. Thanks Almighty God I am not a Muhammadan
Dude asked to go to Romans 1 just to flame himself 😂😂
Thanks!
Avery congratulations on your channel growing, can't wait for Friday's stream having DW, IP and AP on the channel. None of the Dawah boys will answer the challenge.
The second Muslim caller does not understand that the word "only" modifies "true God" and as a Trinitarian I do believe that the father is the only true God (because there are no other gods) however this does not exclude the deity of the Son or the Holy Spirit. This means that for me as a trinitarian the Son is the only true God, and it would be true of the Holy Spirit as well. This is because all three persons of the trinity is the only true God.
The Muslim would have had an argument is Jesus had said that the Father alone is the only true God that would have excluded the Son and the Holy Spirit. But since Jesus said the father is the only true God it simply means that Jesus recognizes the deity of the father.
Kelvin Greene is incorrect in his assertion that Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, however it does seem that he himself is a monarchial trinitarian.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
1 God, his Word, and his Spirit!!! I agree and I'm Muslim!!!
I'll be reaching out my brother😊
You agree because you’re a Muslim. It’s because you want a God that you can wrap your head around. The beauty of the trinity is that it reflects how God is-not to be 100% understood.
@@jamesjones11301994Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
@luqmanmuhammad802 "1 God, his Word and his Spirit! I agree and I am Muslim" - Do you agree that the Word and the Holy Spirit are distinct persons from the father?.
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You can't agree with that and be a true Muslim. You're a trinitarian Muslim.
So, you commit shirk
I have reached the point where I just skip the parts where the trinity is the subject. It is tiring to hear a clear explanation supported by cited biblical verses that can’t be taken out of context and people still don’t understand or they understand and still reject it.
Bible does say, "Ever learning. Never coming to the knowledge of truth."
2:09
Avery, David, Michael AP, all together?
Man it will be great.
GOD bless you all.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John 17:3 needs to be read in context to fully appreciate what Jesus was saying in that prayer. The contrast is not between the Father and the Son but between the Father and the world’s false gods and idols. Jesus is conversing with the Father who is in heaven while Jesus is on earth. Jesus’ statement that the Father is the only true God should not be seen as contradictory or inconsistent with the whole of the Bible, which supports the fact Jesus Christ is God.
Grasping a straws you are .
Your arguement is a false equivalence arguement.
Jesus never says he is God , there are verses you claim he's claiming he's God big difference.
Most of them are interpreted that way because you guys like the Pharisees make the same mistake.
For eg.
John 8 vs 58
Joh 8:58 AKJV Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am.
On the surface ripped from it context it sounds like it says that
But Jesus is replying to the question(s) from john 8vs 53.
Joh 8:53 AKJV Are you greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom make you yourself?
Was Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham and the Prophets??
Yes he was , he was not saying he was God.
Tell me something cam God be tempted by evil and sin?
No he cannot james 1 vs 13 makes that very clear.
Jas 1:13 AKJV+ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man:
Jas 1:14 AKJV+ But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jesus was tempted in all points as we are , in fact he suffered temptation as is shown in heb 2 vs 17 -18.
Therefore Jesus is not God.
That's how you back up an arguement, not make a whole lot of statements and claims and never show the from the #1 authority your reasoning.
You never backed up your reasoning from scripture.
@@brettmciver432 you are a blind man who claims he can see.
When someone says "I'm not religious I'm spiritual" all I hear is "I'm a narcissist"
God creating the world through flesh and Jesus was an idea is crazy talk. Also how can Jesus be the Father if the Father calls him his son?
Jesus does say the Father is the true God but he also says believe in you the only true God AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent. It’s inclusive speech, incorporating the Father and Jesus under the title of ‘only true God’
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@ that has nothing to do with my point.
So since you have not dealt with my point I’ll assume you cannot so in the case of that verse it is clear in John that Jesus is saying the true God is the Father and the Son.
GOD BLESS
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
45:00 this oneness idea, never heard of it explained but he’s got me having to build a whole separate arsenal. Been focusing on JWs Mormonism, and Islam, whew! Taking notes Avery, taking notes!
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@@abdorahim6435
1. Moses said it, not God.
2. The Hebrew says young women
3. Nothing in this verse mentions rape not is it implied. Rape was a sin deserving of death. Dt. 22:25
I like Kelvin Greene and that’s how I explain the Godhead to people to understand it better.
That is, The Father is God, however, His Word came out of His being Who is The Son Who became Flesh (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father.
@edward1412
Either way, that's a Trinity. However, I'm not sure that this as clear-cut as that. I'm not so sure that The Son literally came forth from the Father's being. If this is true then wouldn't that mean that there was a time in eternity past when Christ wasn't a distinct personality? If you say yes than that's not scriptural. Its An honest question.
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I understand your question perfectly and at times I ask myself the same question.
This is why some believe that the Father begot the Son from Eternity past. I’m not sure if that means The Son has always being distinct from The Father from eternity or there was a time that The Word and The Spirit were alive together within The Father’s being until The Father revealed them where we got the distinctiveness.
This might be a bad example, but it’s like how I’ve a body, soul and spirit which makes me as one being but later I revealed my spirit and my soul out from my being for them to become distinct from me.
Just in case you want to expound on this more. Augustine wrote, "The Father is the only true God in the sense that He is the source of divinity, and the Son, who is begotten from the Father, is also truly God, as He shares the Father’s essence." This aligns with his doctrine of the consubstantiality (same substance) of the Father and the Son.
I've checked and most of the church fathers held this view. Well, I say most, but all the ones I checked said i'm just leaving a possibility that someone had a different view, but I did not see that different view.
1:19:45
I can see where he is coming from. A lot of well meaning people may speak incorrectly or understand incorrectly. The trinity is a very complicated concept. We all start lost.
I might have to pull up for the Friday show.👀📝📝📝
1st caller was speaking low cos he's called before and you kicked him because of his dishonesty and arrogance. He created a new account to come back...
So... According to your question, yes Jesus is God according to the biblical scriptures.
I HAVE never had an issue with the trininty because there is no limits to God i thank God that i dont have to comprehend everything when you realise faith is enough otherwise God would only call the smart people these callers express such religous arrogance that wont get them anywhere 🤣
In the Gospel of Matthew 28 verse 62 The High Priest charged Jesus to tell them whether He was The Son of God which means they knew that God has a Son .
I would say that we will have a body built in Glory..that doesn't necessarily have flesh...but when Jesus came back from the tomb...and His body (Flesh and Blood) was able to drink so...I don't see that the Spirit that is God is not without Substance....
I didn't get a chance to chat with you. I was waiting but had to go. Would love to chat about the "trinity" vs "oneness".
A great scripture to discuss is Matthew 28:19
45:34 HILARIOUS 😂😂😂 and they're actually some christians that would take the king james version over the actual greek. That's how dense they are.
“I’m about to disprove the trinity” - proceeds to speak the trinitarian doctrine
😅😅😅 yea i was like he trynna sound smart but he sounds stupid
No On Can Disprove the Holy Trinity......The Father...... The Son......And The Holy Spirit.....Thee Invincible Almighty God....
@JeramiePerry so will all three be in heaven to where you can kneel to all three? Or will there be one?
@xlcrazyeyelx ......For There Are Three That Bare Witness in Heaven......The Father......The Word=Jesus......And The Holy Ghost=Holy Spirit.....All Three Are Almighty God.....Holy Holy Holy.....God Almighty....
The 1st caller and his appeal to the Jews. Dude the 1st Christians were all Jews. We have the Jewish interpretation which is a Christian interpretation.
GodLogic just called out 80% of the Global Human Population 😅😅😅😅 🔥🔥🔥
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
Kelvin says there is a required faith. But where is faith in heresy?
While we are told to die to the flesh... as a representative of someone that presents Himself as doing the work....He let the Flesh die.
Now the Son (God IN Flesh) God with us... did die. The Spirit returned to the Source (The Father)
The Son took the sin of the world upon Himself and knows best how to deal with it. A selfishness we as humans could not fully comprehend....but are encouraged to fully embrace.
The Father didn't die on the cross...but the Son did...but only for a time... 3 days later (on the 3rd day) Sin was defeated and so was death...for Him. As the first Fruit.
I've had fun with oneness theology only to mock it...but I know that this approach often makes people think I'm not speaking in truth and love.
I know I'm not a fan of TULIP system either....
Lots of interpretations out there...when Jesus said there is only one way...
Thanks for what you're doing!
God's Only Son Permits Eternal Life!
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Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John ( Hamza’s dad)
Hamza
Ali Dawah
Mosa Adnan
Ali Dawah Sheik
Muslim Lantern
The three Muslim
Central Dawah
Isa Dawah
Sheik Uthman
Deen respond
Ramzi (Dawah over Dunia)
Mustafa (Stratford england0
Siraj (Speaker’s corner)
Mansor (Speaker’s corner)
Muslim Cowboy
And others, on top, most of these conversations is Godlogic going to their platform!
So Muslim need to stop asking why Godlogic doesn’t debate their best, unless they believe all those named above a clueless.
How about telling their Dawah big guys to come to speak to Godlogic? His been to theirs many times. People like Jake, Farid and
Abdul Response rather than making video reacting to Godlogic with their weak objections so the can views and money from Godlogics name, tell them to come on speak to him!
Yea, and he even requests them every stream, but as expected they dont ever join
Some Christians confuse themselves
Starting at 56:06 Kelvin sounds a lot like Denzel Washington... Can I get a witness??
☪️Penislam makes the most sense. Alhamdulipoo
GL you should’ve ended the only guy way sooner 😂
It's a crying shame and an embarrassment that Avery has to not only explain their religion but, is also tasked with explaining the English language to someone who sounds as if English is their first language...🙄
Fahrid responds; never responds. The irony.
he needs to change his name.
I was on the live stream on TH-cam but I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't comment
Now, I hope you a subscriber 😊
You mixed up comprehend and apprehend. Comprehend means to get some of. Apprehend means to fully capture (like you apprehend a criminal).
Avery idk how you deal with these knuckleheads. Some of them say some of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. God bless you and give you patience 🙏
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
The 2nd caller almost debunked Avery... If only he didnt malfunction 😂😂
Yeah 🤣🤣🤣, but it backfired when he tried disputing the fact that Jesus was the Son before creation.
Dude claimed that Jesus was flesh and all things were created through Him. Lol
@edward1412 you're right 🤣😅
THEY @RE DOING THE OPPOSITE
Kelvin is not a trinitarian. He seems to hold to an Arian view of God where the Son and the Spirit are emanations of the Father and derive their deity from Him. That's heresy.
He believe in triune god but he is not trinitarian im confused 😅
He just doesn’t want to use the word, “Trinity.” I used to be one some few years ago although I believed The Son was (still is) God.
I don't ever see a stream for Christians
What’s more important, Christian’s calling in and asking Avery questions that they themselves can get from the Bible or even ask their pastor? Or is it more important that Avery focuses on non Christian’s to try to bring them to the truth? At the end of the day winning souls to Christ is the goal.
Unc was goofy.
Dear Avery, you ended the call when the caller could not explain Hebews 1, 2. 49:43 and I know the caller acted negative towards you partially (on the other hand he called you Sir) , so I understand you got angry. however Abduls are not smarter than Oneness Christians. Oneness christians are also christians as they believe in Christ divinity and the christian scripture, they are definite smarter than abduls. we shall not act negative among christians and call each other pagans, I know the caller started that BS, - but eye for an eye is not the right reaction, instead you both should discuss with respect. Respectful loving behavior among brothers is what Jesus taught for example in matthew 5,22. if you think he was a troll you should have exposed that, but obviously you did not think he was a troll, you simple thought he is oneness christian/modalist and you called him pagan and abuls are smarter than him, because he called you pagan before. he sinned, but imo you kind of sinned too, if we suppose that he was a christian and not just a troll ✝
Anyone that doesn't believe in the trinity is not a Christian
Try to talk every day to idiots morons dishonest people that insult you insult your faith we will see how good of a Christian you are if you can skip all this emotions than you are maybe a robot? Becouse i can understand Avery and it was not like he was going tottaly in on this guy with insults!!!!!And yes Avery has right to call him pagan its not a word that insults !!!!! And sombody belives in Oneness its not a Christian sir he simply not a Christian!!!!!!!Sorry for my English
@@kocur-ul9ku a) that is why I wrote : so I understand you got angry. That means I understand he got angry because the caller acted very negative in parts.
b) Oneness christians are also christians, they believe in divinity of Jesus and the Gospel. that is the FACT. you cannot bear false witness, and also you cannot judge. only God can judge who a true christian is, but if you believe in the Gospel , then you are a christian.
@@timnic9242 firstly no, oneness are not Christian’s because they deny the personhood of the son. The early Christian’s believed this and they were known as heretics. The Being of God is an important doctrine. If one knowingly denies the personhood of the Son distinct from the Father they are infact heretics. Scripture clearly presents the son as distinct from the father in terms of personhood.
@@universe8649 you cannot judge who is a true christian, you are not God. the early christians are the Apostles, they never said what you said, so you making your own arrogant judgment about people who believe in ths gospel. the way you judge , you will be judged matthew 7, 1-2 . and catholic trinitarians call the Pope Holy Father when clearly Jesus has forbidden to call anyone Father except God.
Isaiah 48:16; John 1:1-2(Father, Son, Holy Spirit); Revelation 22:1-2….. all 3 scriptures show and Confirm 1 John 5:7(KJV).
They are 3 separate entities. Elohiym is plural.
Elohiym is a title not their names.
Jesus is god son let god be true and every man a liar
Quick question... Is the WORD Flesh?
If it's not trinitarian, it's pagan❤
@Kanabel-d7o
Lol no it isn't. The revelation of the Trinity is a progressive revelation that took thousands of years to be revealed. God has allowed people to believe in the oneness of God since the dawn of human civilization post-Adam and Eve. He's also allowed people to believe in his plurality of nature. God has always had one major rule tho. I am one God and there is no one else besides me. In biblical times some saw this one being called God as one person. While others viewed this one being called God as a plural being. What mattered was that you worshiped the one and true living God... Yahweh. Whether or not you have full revelation of his divine nature.
Debating with people of different religions, which are man made, and both of you agreeing that what you study is %100 truth and anything outside of them is false is ignorant. Because the text in those doctrines are from history. How can you do your research and say it's true without doing your research which comes from outside those doctrine.
And they try to come in so nice as if they are sincere people just to lie shamelessly
Old man looks like an older avery
JESUS =TRUE GOD read 1st John 5:20
1 John 5:20 says, "And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the TRUE GOD and eternal life .
Can't nail the Spirit to the cross... just like the earth that we are on presently and all humans aren't figments of God's imagination (ideas)...
Oneness can sound good in some spots...but when letting all of Scripture interpreting Scripture... it falls apart.
I missed this live, but I won't keep missing you.. much respect but the Bible nor the so-called apostles teach of a trinity..
First John states that three testify in heaven: the Father, the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST. These three are one!
The Father is a Spirit. The WORD is divine incarnate. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit that proceeds from God the Father. The Father is not flesh, so He is not the WORD. The WORD is not merely Spirit, so He is neither the Father nor the HOLY GHOST. The HOLY GHOST proceeds from the Father, meaning He is not the Father or the Son. These are three distinct persons who together constitute one being called God.
I can’t BELIEVE I Missed it!!!!! 😫😫😫😫 sooner or later we will connect. I look forward to demonstrating the ONENESS of God to you.
Brother you’re going to fall flat on your face. Lies always fall
John 8:54, Jesus says that if He glorifies Himself, it means nothing. (Since you believe Jesus is The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit) Who is glorifying Jesus?
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I trust in the word of Prophet Manny (PBUH)
When u solving the God is an Israelite mess sir
Doodoo brain 😂😂😂
Brother logic. Jesus is the father where you like it or not.if u watch pastor jeno jennings. Y ll never bealve trinity again. It's blasphemy to say person holy spirit ❤period 💯 there is not God besides him. Our God is jealous God 🙏 no one God besides him. I was orthodox Christian ☦️ I have seen pastor jennings over 2 years. I became warship and accepted Jesus is the father. Please 🙏 I am encouraged you to watch the pastor 🙏. There is no make sense. The trinity. It's not even in the bible. God tells us to be Holly according to scripture.
Jesus is not the father unless you are saying he prays to himself and is his own god that makes no sense. You would also be saying that he sits on the right hand of himself how does one do that.he himself said there is but one true god his father in heaven. I will trust his words and not a fake doctrine create by men
How difficult is this!
1 John 5:7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:14, which states, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us
The word became Jesus! Are you this stupid? 😂😂😂.
Until you see Jesus has the Word, You will never,
Timothy 3:16 King James Version (KJV)And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Your problem
2 peter 1vs20
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture becomes a matter of someone’s own interpretation
Meaning Scriptures are interpreted by Scriptures..
Monotheism - is not the believe that God is ONE but the believe in ONE GOD! Sovereignty!!!! HOWEVER, I THINK ITS STUPID FOR ANYONE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN GOD, YOU CANT EXPLAIN GOD AND A BOOK CAN'T ENTIRELY EXPLAIN GOD, BUT THE REVELATION YOU GOT IN PART, IT'S ENOUGH, IT A MISTERY FOR THE HUMAN MIND!
The Father is God, The Word is God and The Spirit is God and All ARE in UNITY!...
@@olajikiemi5910this was beautiful, but let's be kind and refrain from calling people stupid...we will ask God to reveal all 😊
Jesus is the word, the word is not the father....
@@mphumenyambi7045 bless sis
Just because you're a Unitarian this does not disqualify that individual as a Christian. There are difference of opinions wirh different views about what the scripture says and unfortunately that's a human flaw. We have different Christians like the Salvation Army to Protestants to Evangelical and many others. When Jesus returns much will be revealed that will surprise even the most devout Christian.
Unitarian was not the Gospel that preached by the Apostles. Whoever denies the Son, denies the Father. Clearly shows the distinction.
Unitarians are heretics.
Yes there is a distinction. As also mentioned in Daniel 7:13-14.
The son of man (Jesus) was brought before the ancient of days ( God almighty) , and was given dominion, glory , and a kingdom that all people, nation and languages should serve him .
@@constancemitchell3065 We are told that in 1 Corinthians 15 that the Kingdom will be given to Jesus for 1,000yrs before he steps down and gives the Kingdom to God his father.
@@UtopiaBlue68cope, if you reject Jesus, you don't know God.
IS HE @ MUMBLING MUSLIM ????
Love this brothers teaching, no muslim can come with made up stories or even perons who denies the trinity... may God continue to bles you bro with such patience and knowledge.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
Case closed!!!! Read below:
Dear Avery, you are getting in your negative feelings - Proof: you say a Muslim is smarter than a oneness (christian/modalist) 51:54 😲
1) first of all it is not true at all for the abduls are not smarter than oneness christians/modalists , you shall not bear false witness. 2) also you cannot say he is not a christian for the caller said he believes in Jesus divinity and Gospel, which is way smarter and closer to your belief than what Abduls say. this is the FACT , and christian stick to facts.
3) you are showing hostility towards christians with a different view what Jesus has forbidden, and bearing false witness ist also forbidden. and I know the caller made fun of you partially and provoked you, he also beared false witness against you, so you might say I am doing to him what he is doing to me, eye for an eye - but that is not what Jesus taught. that is why in general we must be very careful when we discuss christian topics with other christians.
as Jesus said: that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment;...and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire. matthew 5, 22
p.s. if you think the caller was a troll that would be a different case, but you did not treat him like a troll and you made the general false judgment that oneness christians/modalists are not as smart as abduls.
Bro, you said a lot but with little substance! You don't have to play the victim game. Oneness modalists are not CHRISTIANS!!! Wish I had the time to say more, but Avery has said it all. If you need to become a robot to defend an idea, then you are worse than an abdool. We have seen some abdools go from point A to B like Godlogic said.
@@Edago-bg2mc you are lying and sinning and you want to judge who a true christian is and who not ? HILARIOUS. you dont understand christianity if you think you can judge that. Jesus said:. dont judge (your brother) or you too will be judged., matthew 7, 1
@@Edago-bg2mc 11 Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor? (James 4 )
@@Edago-bg2mc you dont understand christianity if you think you can judge that. Jesus said:. dont judge or you too will be judged., matthew 7, 1
@@Edago-bg2mc absolutely wrong. a Oneness christian believes in the Gospel , the Son , The Father, the Holy Spirit, Crucifixion etc. that is NOT comparable to Islam.
Praise God for the great stream. You can hear the demon taking control once they're confronted with the truth. The unitarins an muslims can't speak
When Jesus was crucified, was the Father crucified too.. (oneness)
The guest after Ida, sounded so confused!!! Didn’t even know what he was saying, he alright???!!?!?
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
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“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@ sure, that’s what you say, I don’t read it in the verse. Nice try though!
I'm Muslim and I agree with Kelvin green!!
We got to talk brother!!! SOON
You agree that Jesus is the Son of God?
You agree that God is triune?
You agree that God is The Father?
You agree that the Holy Spirit is God?
Do you believe that the Son proceeds from his Father? Of course you don't.
Then you’re not far away from being a Christian.
I always explain the Godhead as how Kelvin Greene explained it as people seem to understand it better in that way.
Yeshua is God... According to the Scriptures. But according to my research and my relationship with the Spirit of God, so are you... And me... And everyone else that's ever been born and ever will be born. Our temporal bodies are the only thing that can contain the Spirit of God. Apart from God, we have a consciousness and an awareness that separates us from that knowledge. Once we die and shed this temporal body, our spirits return to the Spirit of God and we become God. But we lose that conciseness, and that awareness that is who we are today. You won't be you and I won't be me. We become God. Period. We become as One.
Jesus is god not Yeshua
@@Truthhurts224Yeshua is Jesus name in Aramaic/Hebrew
Also his name isn't Jesus. It's yeshua
Groundbreaking stuff here
I expect you to be speaking Hebrew since you wanna say the Hebrew version
You explain well, just don't use a word that's not biblical and occultic. Trinity.
There is the Almighty and the Word and the Word was made flesh.
Why wouldn’t you use the word “Trinity”? Some of y’all is too superstitious.
JJESUS IS GOD TO THE DOGS,THE PAGANS,THE GENTILES AND TO THE BLACKS.ALSO TO THE DISCIPLES OF PAUL,WHOM PAUL NAMED CHRISTIANS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ANTIOCH.BEFORE PAUL THERE WERE NO CHRISTIANS.AND CHRISTIANITY WAS NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE!
Neither were muslims or islam 😂
So what is they were called Christian first at Antioch? By the way Paul didn’t name them Christian, he acknowledged in his writing that they were first called Christians at Antioch however it was originally a term of insult that didn’t originate with Paul but actually the enemies of Christ.
Our faith was without name originally being the fulfilment of the Jewish scriptures being referred to as ‘the Way’ and you’re damn right he’s God to the ‘blacks’ but damn, I’m glad I belong to a God who isn’t a racist like you.
Why write in all caps? You just look crazy and there is so much wrong in what you’ve said. You can keep whatever your religion is to yourself as if you can’t be chill in a comment section I worry about you in real life.
And Mohammed your profit is the world biggest fraudster/pedophile/murderer. Created a cult based on lies and porn. Disgusting 🤮
So 3 Godslogic was says can you pray to you father???
What about this?
Jesus says my father and your father my god and your god!!!
This is after the Resurrection!!!
Which Jesus was meant to be fully God!!!
So either Jesus is claiming he is not god and not the biological son or Jesus is also god but he was scared to say it!!!
So you really need to choose 1 god or 2 gods?
John 20:17, it states:
"Jesus said to her, ‘Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’"
You guys are so confused about the Trinity. As a man in the flesh, Jesus submits himself to his father and his God. But in his spiritual essence, he's divine which means that he shares in the divine nature of the father. As a human, he can speak of God in human terms. But because he shares in the divine nature of the Father he can also participate in the Father's divinity. Jesus has a dual nature.
@Jackson-kq4ro
I got you, so who died on the cross?
@@HolyPigeon-l3t
Jesus
@@Jackson-kq4ro
Jesus who?
The human or god?
Or both?
@HolyPigeon-l3t
The human side of Christ.
But let me ask you a question. Is God the Father the "WORD" of God ?
A new heaven and new earth which is a new world and a new creation. Just like Jesus is the 2 Adam this is obviously referring to a new creation.
Avery just stop it!! The gentleman was totally right!! I know you think you have it all wrapped up but you're sadly mistaken.
He was not right lol. The guy completely committed a contradiction. He first said that Jesus is the Father. But then said that Jesus created the earth in the flesh. When Avery asked if this flesh is the father he said no. Which means that Jesus isn't the father. If he says the flesh was the father then there's another contradiction. Because he said the father was the spirit. 😂😂😂
@@Jackson-kq4ro I don't know what you're talking about there but as for the new creation where we have the first Adam and the 2nd Adam this is what he was referring to in relation to a new world and a new creation. Jesus was made a quickening spirit which means he was given the spirit to lead him and to direct him with the power of the Holy Spirit whereas for Adam he was of the earth and was governed or ruled by earthy desires he was carnally minded as the Apostle Paul refers in Romans 6 when clearly illustrating the difference between the mind of the flesh and the mind of the spirit.
Through Jesus life, death and resurrection a new way was made open to salvation for all nations, all people and from every tongue or language. Through Adam all die as he was of the ground earthy.
@UtopiaBlue68
He said that the Son created the worlds as a fleshly person. If this is true he literally contradicts himself. Because if Jesus and the Father are the same person. Then the Father would be flesh. But thats a contradiction because according to him, the Father can't be a fleshly person because he's fully Spirit.
It will be Jesus peace be upon him who will Reject you and your blasphemy on the day of Judgement
Quran 5:116
And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.
The Qu'ran is corrupted. Uthman ibn Affan ordered every Qu'ran except his Qu'ran to be burned. So, is the Qu'ran God's Word or Uthman's words??
You get your facts from the Quran?
Haha this is hilarious. Your false religion came 7 centuries later and tries to claim Jesus. It’s utterly ridiculous. From a historical standpoint, it’s absurd that you can say anything about Jesus . Everything you know about him comes from the gospels.
Jesus started Christianity. The apostles took his teachings and spread the true gospel. You’re living a lie Muslim. You will burn in hell unless you humble yourself and recognize that Christ is lord.
Who is Allah? 😂😂😂. The mohammedan god. How comes Mohammed, Allah, issa, Marry, etc. All spoke in the same way, Allah said O! Marry said O, Issa said O, moses said O😂😂😂😂.Quran is not revelation but a Poetry
@@jamesjones11301994 Jesus started Christianity? Then why he did not say he is Christian or call his Deciples Christians? Why did he not write the Gospels? Why was your New Testament put together 3-4 hundred years later?
Logic you have already rejected Jesus and my Father by claiming to be a Christian.
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Congrats. You are the winner of the "Most stupid comment of 2024"
@@MU-we8hz how?
Show me where Jesus taught to be a Christian?
@@MU-we8hz I’m not a muslim nor a Christian nor any of these man made religious.
I belong to Jesus as his disciple.
I’m a disciple of Jesus
That’s what he taught
@@derrellsimeon7733 have you ever read the Bible?
What would it mean if Jesus was speaking to Avery saying , You, Avery are the only Avery? Would that mean he's saying Jesus and Avery are the same? You got cooked Avery 😂😂
Jesus shared the same ideals, views, opinions as his father.
Avery you dont understand what David was saying about the lord because you're a heart hearted person who finds it difficult to accept when you're wrong and because of this you'll never accept anything different that opposes your own understanding.
You are not making sense.. can you reference Scriptures to show you atleast know the Scriptures not your opinion?
Psalm 110:1: “The LORD said to my Lord, 'Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet
Matthew 22vs44
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
You Muslims are so brainwashed it’s impossible to ask a Muslim a question you ask them about bananas they answer about beef steaks zero focus or capable to hold a conversation brain is so slow but again the Muslim believes Satan sleeps in their nose and all other idiotic fairytale stories in Islam ohh the sun sets in muddy water 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 endless stupidly 😅😅😅😅