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Violinists Are Still TRICKED by An Old MYTH

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
  • Join me, in this enlightening video where I aim to debunk one of the prevailing myths in the world of violin making: the debate between one-piece back and two-piece back violins.
    I will present three compelling reasons why this myth deserves to be debunked. Drawing upon my extensive knowledge and expertise, I will explore the construction techniques, tonal characteristics, and historical significance of both one-piece and two-piece back violins.
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    00:32 THE MYTH
    00:55 First Reason
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  • @gtmerkley
    @gtmerkley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another myth about playing the violin caused me surprise and led to a very unpleasant conversation. I was at an auction that had a violin for sale I played it some to test I did place a few bids on it but was outbid by another fellow No problem not a very good instrument. When the Auctioneer handed the violin to the winning bidder, He imedently removed it from its case and started trying to play it, It was obvious he did not know how to play, The harder he tried the angrier he became. He then came up to me and said You took the magic back from the violin just because I outbid you. Shocked I asked what magic? He informed me He knew no one could play the violin on their own, The person has to put magic into the violin for it to play. I replied The only magic was the eight hours a day for years I spent practicing This just upset him more As this was upsetting everyone and There was nothing else I was interested in, I just left and let him rant, the auctioneer called a recess and left as well. I believe the man must have been a bit unbalanced. that's why I knew it was little use to argue with him.

  • @achrefcherif6824
    @achrefcherif6824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!! I laughed hard when you waved at us from the mirror while talking 😂 0:57

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤩
      Cristina and me have lots of fun while we are recording these videos.
      Thanks for your comment
      All the best from Cremona
      Edgar

    • @user-yc7ig6ie3d
      @user-yc7ig6ie3d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it scared me for a sec but it was so funny😂😂

  • @ssb73q
    @ssb73q ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi, thanks for the video. I will always opt for a one piece violin back. There is no glue joint to fail in time. IMO the flamed maple of a one piece back looks more exquisite than a two piece back. I understand that both the two and one piece back many not sound any different. However, when buying a violin, give me a one piece back.

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      All right!
      👌🏼🎻👌🏼❤️

    • @nickiemcnichols5397
      @nickiemcnichols5397 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m only a beginner, but I’ve owned three. I prefer a two piece back, just because I like the appearance.

  • @charliegrandison1176
    @charliegrandison1176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great, informative video! Well done as well! The Edgar alter ego saying hello in back is hilarious. Thank you for the informative fun.

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ciao Charles!
      Glad you like it!
      All the best
      Edgar

  • @salionshatterstar
    @salionshatterstar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved the little artsy stuff in this video ( the designs coming off your hands as you wave them around, and mirror Ragde)

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the artistic video cutting from Cristian!
      He is a Pro!
      So happy that I can work with him!
      Thanks for your comment!
      Edgar

  • @ghlscitel6714
    @ghlscitel6714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Definition von Selbsständig: Man arbeitet selbst und ständig, sogar den Müll muss man selbst raustragen.)
    There may be even an advantage with 2 piece backs: Both halves might have slightly different acoustic resonance properties which may result in a better sound spectrum.
    I saw electric planes in Japan which were so precise that no gap was detectabe at the joint and the surfaces were perfectly smooth. May also be ideal for planing the ribs down to 1.5 mm with no tear outs and precise thickness.

  • @kevinfarrellUK
    @kevinfarrellUK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read somewhere that a two piece back was more stable with less chance of movement and warping, especially in humid or dry conditions. I would be interested to know if you have any thoughts on this? Is this also a myth?

  • @SoundsLikeAnna
    @SoundsLikeAnna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great video! You and your team are getting better and better, keep up the good work 🥰

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Anna!
      Love you!
      Edgar

  • @kevinv.m.94
    @kevinv.m.94 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the concept and editing of this video, as I enjoyed the topic that you discussed.
    Good job, Edgar and team!

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Kevin for your nice comment!
      Edgar

  • @charliegrandison1176
    @charliegrandison1176 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking forward to the next video with a passion! Hey here's a couple of questions that could be interesting... 1. Does the height of the saddle down at the bottom under the tailpeice play a roll in the performance of the instrument? Does this change between violins, violas, cellos and double basses ? Such a small peice that seems so insignificant but is it really insignificant or does it have an effect?

  • @faceconomicstv
    @faceconomicstv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What string brand do you use for your top quality violins?

  • @sissoft
    @sissoft ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the mirror image!!! so cool!

  • @nordiskkatt
    @nordiskkatt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, here's an argument for a once-piece back! It requires wood that comes from a tree that has been growing for longer, as stated in the video. Forests that are left alone for longer - because the tree needs time to grow - are much better for the environment. They function as effective carbon sinks, more so than new-growth forests. It may not affect the sound at all, but Mother Nature might thank you for choosing a one-piece back all the same! ;)

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s actually a good argument!
      Thanks for sharing
      Edgar

  • @Mus3lm4nn
    @Mus3lm4nn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:58 😂 Schöne neue, erfrischende und informative Videos. Liebe Grüße!
    PS.: Ich hoffe, dass ich es dieses Jahr schaffe bei dir vorbeizuschauen 😊

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Freu mich auf ein Wiedersehen!
      Lass wissen wann das sein wird!
      Beste Grüße aus Cremona
      Edgar

  • @user-zq9sl7qb5i
    @user-zq9sl7qb5i ปีที่แล้ว

    It has been my believe that the top spruce plate is actually where the sound is vibrating and a one piece back doesn't make much difference in sound. As you said one piece is much more beautiful and finding wood is hard to find. I recently obtained a 4" thick piece of the most beautiful curly maple large enough for a one piece viola. Anyway I love your videos. Thanks

  • @Slipsch
    @Slipsch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always knew that 1 piece does not necessarily sound better than 2-piece. But if i were to own a master violin, I want mine to be 1 piece.

  • @juanmanuelflorezviol
    @juanmanuelflorezviol ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost shit on my pants with the mirror scene. Congrats on your great channel, i love your videos! 🎻

  • @think2023
    @think2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hand planinv is more precise than CNC?.?
    How?

  • @williamkauffman5745
    @williamkauffman5745 ปีที่แล้ว

    always wondered about one piece and two piece

  • @familyskorman3148
    @familyskorman3148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good violin is a good violin and starts with great premium meterial and great maker and finish and great setup, also good violin don't have to be expensive, also expensive violin don't have to be good - but at the end if you have one maker with 100% same violins with 100% same wood - one one piece and second two piece you will have a better violin and should be 1 piece - why? No cuts and no glue to interfere in vibration. If will be the same then still one piece looks better :) so better at the end. But also beter maker will make better instrument.

  • @pcastonguay
    @pcastonguay 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder what the late Ferdinando Garimberti would have to say about this.

  • @CotruliaGallery
    @CotruliaGallery 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video I have a one piece back German bird's eye

  • @mccypr
    @mccypr ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! 😎

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!
      Edgar

  • @user-yk8hp3qb5w
    @user-yk8hp3qb5w ปีที่แล้ว

    funny mirror reflection.

  • @gregmonks
    @gregmonks ปีที่แล้ว

    All this talk of wood must be very hard on the trees. I think I will study to become a tree psychiatrist.

  • @alanaliyev456GT
    @alanaliyev456GT ปีที่แล้ว

    one piece Back have just sometimes more elegant shape.

  • @diydarkmatter
    @diydarkmatter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok ok so i never heard of this but im learning . if one piece was a master and two piece was a student and the sound difference is a myth . then what is the difference between a master violin and a student violin . and is there a difference . and should there be . cause i know even if i was a student violinist and i was learning i would want to learn on the best violin i could right so if for say Stradivarius was mass producing his violins still and i could afford one of course i would want his violin and im sure no one would call his violin a student violin . so let me guess . there is no reason a violin should be considered a student violin unless it is one of those cheap china orange noise makers . but lets say you are a master violinist you may be i dont know forgive me for that . but lets say you are a master violin maker and you are of course making master violins right . but you have a student who is learning from you then his violins would be a student violin am i right . well maybe im wrong lol . but i have to ask cause the only stupid question is the one that is not asked . thank you for your time in answering my last question .

  • @n7275
    @n7275 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Musicians are very guliable to plausible sounding, but completely unfounded pseudoscience.

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is an argument to be made that they can sound different, especially if the one-piece is slab cut.

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, Mathew!
      All the best
      Edgar

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว

      Iron, you are so Right!
      I forfore to point that out!
      That becomes another Video!
      Thanks and all the best from Cremona
      Edgar

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any group of people that love myths more than musicians?

  • @thatoneguy8064
    @thatoneguy8064 ปีที่แล้ว

    so the message is that two piece backs are more valuable because it takes more time to make? absurd.

  • @xghhjmt
    @xghhjmt ปีที่แล้ว

    brook's violin in one pieces? bro the show is over 1060 ep lol

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😅😂😉👍🏼

  • @TitofBee
    @TitofBee ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaha😂🎉

  • @alanaliyev456GT
    @alanaliyev456GT ปีที่แล้ว

    i own a Violin in one piece really great .....another is a trash !!!!!!

  • @guarneri1732
    @guarneri1732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please learn to pronounce „ precious „ the right way😅

    • @salionshatterstar
      @salionshatterstar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like his way better ;-)

    • @EdgarRuss
      @EdgarRuss  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😅😩🇦🇹
      I will do my best!