"Before Jerry decided to open The Grateful Dead Movie with Gary Gutierrez's magnificent animated sequence, we had original slotted this version of Uncle John's Band to open the film. When we produced the DVD of the Movie in 2004, we felt it was appropriate to open the Bonus Songs feature with this version of Uncle John's Band. This was produced from the original 16mm camera negative." - David Lemieux
So much feeling in this version. How i miss Jerry! Hurts my heart. It echoes sometimes! Like some of the dead and. Company but without Jerry, isn't the grateful dead' .
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Man, the biggest flaw with these 73 - 74 shows are those vocal mics. I forgot how Kreutzmann described them, but they really did a disservice to the vocals.
@Christopher Orman My hunch is that if you were listening out in the audience you might not hear how unnaturally compressed the vocals seemed (not that the Dead at this point were at their peak with harmonizing as it was) in the final mix, and I think for the Dead, especially at that point, the benefits far outweighed the singular deficiency. The WOS allowed for the musicians to actually control the final mix themselves since they could hear the actual sound source behind them. Bear Stanley said he designed it so after the first couple of tunes, he wouldn't have to touch a fader for the rest of the night - *he* *could* *just* *walk* *away* *from* *the* *board* . That's huge because under normal conditions, musicians are often, it not almost always, slaves in a sense to their soundman, who can make or break how they actually sound to the largest swath of audience. If you want evidence of this, look back at Phish's performance for Genesis at the "R&R HOF" lol. I guarantee you the men and women running the board were NOT theirs. And they sound like she-ite as a result. They were effectively sabotaged. It could also explain why the musicians of the Dead all sound so sensitive toward one another during this WOS 74' period since unconsciously, or consciously, they had to be aware of their heightened responsibility (which in this case is a healthy one) for what the audience was hearing.
It's the phase cancelling they used to stop feedback by double micing everything. to have speakers behind them and not have the squealing noise, they would subtract the signal from the lower mic from the upper mic. Very, very clever stuff! Invented by the Owsley chap who's LSD factory supplied most of the US at the time. It sounds lame on the recordings, but from what people say it was the best sounding rig around at the time.
@@SamHarrisonMusic I have heard about the technology and why the Dead used it. I'm sure live, it sounded great, but it does undermine the recordings. The PNW box set, for example, has some of the band's best playing -- ever -- in my opinion. But the vocals are marred by those microphones a bit. Is it still listenable? Without question. But sometimes, I've thought how great these shows would have sounded had they used the rig they used in '72 and didn't need the phase cancelling.
@@christopherorman5769If it's the recordings that are at the Crux of it for you, I'm sure with the technologies that exist, there is software out there that could isolate the vocals and put effects on them that could improve their sound, then you could reinsert them.
It is almost heartbreaking to see Jerry here. Prime time. He should still be alive. Right this very minute. We all get sideways, I guess. I don’t look anything like I did when I was 25. But damn. Just damn.
Phil was such a creator and instigator in the 70s , by the time i started going in late 80s and 90s, he reminded me of my dad. I just love to watch what Phil is doing in these old clips on his Elembic. such a kook !
"Goddamn, well I declare, have you seen the like, Their wall are built of cannonballs, their motto Is don't tread on me" Happy 50th Anniversary #workingmansdead !!!!! Hopefully we get an Announcement on the 2020 Boxset soon ! 💀⚡🌹✌❤🌍🌻
Just watched the 7/7/89 Loser. On November 9, 1979 I travelled from my home in Hamilton, Ontario, 50 miles west of Toronto, to see the Dead at Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo. I had little clue about the band except for Truckin' and Casey Jones on Top 40, but then I wanted to go to every rock show I could. Early Mydland performance. So I am sitting at the other end in the hockey rink from the band. Show ensues. Good sound. About an hour in of 3 1/2 hours they played Loser. I was transfixed by the solos and the "out in the country" choruses. That song, that night, changed everything for me about the Grateful Dead. Even though I had a mounted poster of the Blues for Allah album cover 3 feet by three and the album itself before that concert epiphany. I wish I had more boots of Franklin's Tower. Even the lyrics of Loser are so quintisentially American. Last fair deal as opposed to Trump's version of the deal. Anyway, thanks for letting me write about a great song, which I think was on a Garcia solo album. Plus, I made a mission of going to Dead shows in Buffalo on Indepdence Day. 1986, 1989, 1990. Best Dead swapping with Dylan/Heartbreakers as headliners in 1986. Our concert bus was caught up in traffic, so by the time I walked into Rich Stadium, I could only hear Tennessee Jed. However, during the usual 45 minute Dead intermission, rain clouds moved in. We knew we were going to be wet. The band comes out with Cold Rain and Snow and Looks Like Rain. Great! Appropriate! What other band would tailor its song list based on meteorological conditions? As fab as that was, a better moment, for me, was during Dylan and the Heartbreakers playing Refugee in Buffalo on Independence Day. Even as the cynical misanthrope I am, that moment grabbed me as the idealism of America. I would like to hear Bob Weir's take on current US reality. It's scary to the rest of us. Then China Cat/Rider. Around the time of sun's gonna shine lyric, the sky cleared for the rest of the day. We, as the audience, probably thought more influence on reality than we did.
In regard to David Lemieux's comment on the video, I am not surprised that this version of Uncle John's Band was his first choice to open the movie. I haven't heard every performance of this song, but this is the finest I've heard. Amazingly beautiful. I've sat and listened to it over and over. They were really "on" that night. Every song that night was as close to perfect as any group of human beings can come in music. October 17, 1974.
Old dead head here, any chance you have Nicky Hopkins and the Dead playing "Edward the mad shirt grinder" at winterland? it was truly magical ! mid 70's
I'm not really a Dead fan. But this is one of my favorites. And I have a story. When my daughter (now 26yo) was finishing 6th grade, her science teacher sent the class home with an odd assignment: bring in a song written by musicians who used drugs. So of course, I played Uncle John's Band on the stereo. She said "They're not singing in tune." And a second later, "It's better this way." So it went on her iPod. I don't know what was going through that teacher's mind, but I thank him.
The last time I went to see the Dead was at Winterland. Not this show though. It was 1967 or 68. I do not think there was a straight head in the entire auditorium. Winterland was the venue Bill Graham used when the bands on the ticket were too big for the much smaller and intimate Fillmore auditorium. Both of course were in San Francisco. Fillmore was a dance hall. Had a stage but no seating. Well, there was a bar downstairs and a smaller one upstairs in the balcony, where you could grab a chair and maybe a table. I am pretty sure there was no alcohol served because you did not have to be 21 to get in, and 21 was the legal drinking age in California. Winterland was a much larger auditorium with rows of seating and was used for hosting productions like the Ice Capades, or Ice Follies.
The bar was open! I remember as I was there too. I was even there when it was the Ice Follies believe it or not. My grandma took me there and at the end of the ice show, a man came skating up to her and handed her a bouquet of roses! I was only 5 or 6 years old at that time. I have no idea why I remember it but my old grandma sure deserved those roses!
@john8820 Robert Hunter is the world's greatest lyricist. Without another similarly named Bob Hunt (and, later, Ampex) we wouldn't have magnetic tape. Deeper connection here.
Been all in since 77, probably would have graduated from Cornell and BORING. 67 orbits now. Just did a between days festival. DSO kills, fkn stu Allen is the future of our community
After so many times playing a song, most people just look at it like their job. not these guys. Sometimes they couldn't do it, but they always did it like it was a calling. When it's a calling, if you can't do it, you can't do it. Lets go chill out, or go out later and try again.
I wish....I think there’s a Grateful Dead movie soundtrack somewhere but not sure if this is on it and can’t find it for digital download....however this is an app you can download for free and listen to these shows on there! It’s called Relisten!
I'm trying desperately to get my band Traveler's Fold some presence. It's old school jam band rock n roll the likes of the Dead, Widespread, Phish, the Band, etc. Please check it out and give our dual album releases Dog Tooth and River Bend here on TH-cam a listen; it will give us a sorely needed morale boost and I promise you won't be let down by what you hear; thank you.
I have never, not once, in 20+ years of listening to the Dead needed to augment my senses to enjoy their music. I really feel for people that seem to have missed the whole point of the band.
Ya. All music sounds good when your tripping. Thats why i always fire up some vanilla ice about an hour after i dose. Gd is not for everyone. But you are here listening and commenting. Haha
Sounds like this really only applies to you. They aren’t atrocious...that’s a fact. They’re fantastic musicians...now if you don’t like them that’s a different story. If you don’t like em don’t watch em
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"Before Jerry decided to open The Grateful Dead Movie with Gary Gutierrez's magnificent animated sequence, we had original slotted this version of Uncle John's Band to open the film. When we produced the DVD of the Movie in 2004, we felt it was appropriate to open the Bonus Songs feature with this version of Uncle John's Band. This was produced from the original 16mm camera negative." - David Lemieux
By far the best version honest and raw
So much feeling in this version. How i miss Jerry! Hurts my heart. It echoes sometimes! Like some of the dead and. Company but without Jerry, isn't the grateful dead' .
Jerry's playing here......omg.
The notes from Jerry's guitar drop into your mind like summer rain
It's a drop of rain
I know many can make a case for enjoying 80s and 90s Dead. But no one has ever had to justify how objectively great this is.
Yep, 70s Dead is my favorite Dead.
This is clearly the band at the height of their powers. Nothing will ever beat this
Well said Rob...
This was the apex. 1969-1978ish was the golden age if you ask me.
I was there. Now I am here. If not for the love of the Grateful Dead I would be nowhere at all.
"...I live in a silver mine, and I call it beggar's tomb..." ✌🏿
America's greatest band!
Motley Crue claims it’s them. 😂
Jerry will live forever as as long as we remember him.
GNU Jerry
There was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert the biggest party on the planet
Without Grateful Dead no reason for US
Ain’t no time to hate, barely time to wait ✌🏻
"Ain't No Time To Hate, Barely Time To Wait " -I second that emotion
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we need the whole winterland footage, all nights!
ON BLURAY
I was at all 5 shows.
There's nothing like a grateful Dead concert, ever. You want it all
Backstage footage and all lol
Man, the biggest flaw with these 73 - 74 shows are those vocal mics. I forgot how Kreutzmann described them, but they really did a disservice to the vocals.
@Christopher Orman My hunch is that if you were listening out in the audience you might not hear how unnaturally compressed the vocals seemed (not that the Dead at this point were at their peak with harmonizing as it was) in the final mix, and I think for the Dead, especially at that point, the benefits far outweighed the singular deficiency. The WOS allowed for the musicians to actually control the final mix themselves since they could hear the actual sound source behind them. Bear Stanley said he designed it so after the first couple of tunes, he wouldn't have to touch a fader for the rest of the night - *he* *could* *just* *walk* *away* *from* *the* *board* .
That's huge because under normal conditions, musicians are often, it not almost always, slaves in a sense to their soundman, who can make or break how they actually sound to the largest swath of audience. If you want evidence of this, look back at Phish's performance for Genesis at the "R&R HOF" lol. I guarantee you the men and women running the board were NOT theirs. And they sound like she-ite as a result. They were effectively sabotaged.
It could also explain why the musicians of the Dead all sound so sensitive toward one another during this WOS 74' period since unconsciously, or consciously, they had to be aware of their heightened responsibility (which in this case is a healthy one) for what the audience was hearing.
It's the phase cancelling they used to stop feedback by double micing everything. to have speakers behind them and not have the squealing noise, they would subtract the signal from the lower mic from the upper mic. Very, very clever stuff! Invented by the Owsley chap who's LSD factory supplied most of the US at the time. It sounds lame on the recordings, but from what people say it was the best sounding rig around at the time.
@@SamHarrisonMusic I have heard about the technology and why the Dead used it. I'm sure live, it sounded great, but it does undermine the recordings. The PNW box set, for example, has some of the band's best playing -- ever -- in my opinion. But the vocals are marred by those microphones a bit. Is it still listenable? Without question. But sometimes, I've thought how great these shows would have sounded had they used the rig they used in '72 and didn't need the phase cancelling.
Owsley’s Idea for those mics and a Great many OTHER Mics!💀⚡️🤣
@@christopherorman5769If it's the recordings that are at the Crux of it for you, I'm sure with the technologies that exist, there is software out there that could isolate the vocals and put effects on them that could improve their sound, then you could reinsert them.
Love to hear Jerry play. One of the greatest songs ever.
I have missed this version of the song for years I’m so happy to have found it again.
me too !
Jerry was truly “crackling with energy” here
I’ve been struggling somewhat lately the seeds music has picked me up gives me strength everyday
Great version and also some really beautiful cinematic shots of Jerry soloing... wow
Uncle John's Band=summer
Back again for my daily listen
Absolutely love this tune
My boyfriend Pete took me to a Grateful Dead concert on our first date.
The live versions of UJB are so so much better than the studio version.
Barely time to wait.
Wolf will always be my favorite guitar he played. What a sound
One of my favorite songs in the whole wide world!!! I do LOVE The Grateful Dead...
Anything from this run of shows is amazing!! 10/74 Winterland my all time favorite
Best live version I’ve heard of this....my fav dead song
The song that turned me into a Dead Head. Many moons ago. Shit we were young then!
The Dead could jam! In the best way. ❤
A song with lyrics to live by.....
As is the rest of the palms of life from the Dead ....
An iconic Dead tune..🏃♂🏃♂🏃♂
Garcias melodic runnings were peak here
3:00 is the magical moment when they all come back from their improvising on their own and then they meet back up...magical.
Yeah , that’s awesome.
It is almost heartbreaking to see Jerry here. Prime time. He should still be alive. Right this very minute.
We all get sideways, I guess. I don’t look anything like I did when I was 25. But damn. Just damn.
My favorite version of ujb! Super jazzy jams, amazing vibes. Let's get it!
Phil was such a creator and instigator in the 70s , by the time i started going in late 80s and 90s, he reminded me of my dad. I just love to watch what Phil is doing in these old clips on his Elembic. such a kook !
"Goddamn, well I declare, have you seen the like, Their wall are built of cannonballs, their motto Is don't tread on me" Happy 50th Anniversary #workingmansdead !!!!! Hopefully we get an Announcement on the 2020 Boxset soon ! 💀⚡🌹✌❤🌍🌻
one the absolute best
Just watched the 7/7/89 Loser. On November 9, 1979 I travelled from my home in Hamilton, Ontario, 50 miles west of Toronto, to see the Dead at Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo. I had little clue about the band except for Truckin' and Casey Jones on Top 40, but then I wanted to go to every rock show I could. Early Mydland performance. So I am sitting at the other end in the hockey rink from the band. Show ensues. Good sound. About an hour in of 3 1/2 hours they played Loser. I was transfixed by the solos and the "out in the country" choruses. That song, that night, changed everything for me about the Grateful Dead.
Even though I had a mounted poster of the Blues for Allah album cover 3 feet by three and the album itself before that concert epiphany. I wish I had more boots of Franklin's Tower.
Even the lyrics of Loser are so quintisentially American. Last fair deal as opposed to Trump's version of the deal.
Anyway, thanks for letting me write about a great song, which I think was on a Garcia solo album.
Plus, I made a mission of going to Dead shows in Buffalo on Indepdence Day. 1986, 1989, 1990.
Best Dead swapping with Dylan/Heartbreakers as headliners in 1986. Our concert bus was caught up in traffic, so by the time I walked into Rich Stadium, I could only hear Tennessee Jed.
However, during the usual 45 minute Dead intermission, rain clouds moved in. We knew we were going to be wet. The band comes out with Cold Rain and Snow and Looks Like Rain. Great! Appropriate! What other band would tailor its song list based on meteorological conditions?
As fab as that was, a better moment, for me, was during Dylan and the Heartbreakers playing Refugee in Buffalo on Independence Day.
Even as the cynical misanthrope I am, that moment grabbed me as the idealism of America. I would like to hear Bob Weir's take on current US reality. It's scary to the rest of us.
Then China Cat/Rider. Around the time of sun's gonna shine lyric, the sky cleared for the rest of the day.
We, as the audience, probably thought more influence on reality than we did.
Sublimely beautiful. Goddamn.I think I just saw the light.
In regard to David Lemieux's comment on the video, I am not surprised that this version of Uncle John's Band was his first choice to open the movie. I haven't heard every performance of this song, but this is the finest I've heard. Amazingly beautiful. I've sat and listened to it over and over. They were really "on" that night. Every song that night was as close to perfect as any group of human beings can come in music. October 17, 1974.
My first GD song. Summer 1973. Three years later I got on the bus.
Old dead head here, any chance you have Nicky Hopkins and the Dead playing "Edward the mad shirt grinder" at winterland? it was truly magical ! mid 70's
I'm not really a Dead fan. But this is one of my favorites. And I have a story. When my daughter (now 26yo) was finishing 6th grade, her science teacher sent the class home with an odd assignment: bring in a song written by musicians who used drugs. So of course, I played Uncle John's Band on the stereo. She said "They're not singing in tune." And a second later, "It's better this way." So it went on her iPod. I don't know what was going through that teacher's mind, but I thank him.
Great comment😊
I love that story.
They're not singing in tune.
It's better this way. 😊
The last time I went to see the Dead was at Winterland. Not this show though. It was 1967 or 68. I do not think there was a straight head in the entire auditorium. Winterland was the venue Bill Graham used when the bands on the ticket were too big for the much smaller and intimate Fillmore auditorium. Both of course were in San Francisco. Fillmore was a dance hall. Had a stage but no seating. Well, there was a bar downstairs and a smaller one upstairs in the balcony, where you could grab a chair and maybe a table. I am pretty sure there was no alcohol served because you did not have to be 21 to get in, and 21 was the legal drinking age in California. Winterland was a much larger auditorium with rows of seating and was used for hosting productions like the Ice Capades, or Ice Follies.
I've seen the movie countless times, but i'm just now realizing how young they were : ) That probably means i am gettin older than I want to admit...
The bar was open! I remember as I was there too. I was even there when it was the Ice Follies believe it or not. My grandma took me there and at the end of the ice show, a man came skating up to her and handed her a bouquet of roses! I was only 5 or 6 years old at that time. I have no idea why I remember it but my old grandma sure deserved those roses!
God love it, it's my B~day. Best present yet!!!
Id do anything to go back to era
There is something about Jerry's guitar that is alive,it's so amazing.❤😊
So fucking good, even the camera work is great
Such a beautiful song
Watching the close-up of Jerry play guitar is second only to hearing him play.
I love uncle john's band first time hearing it. Or should I say uncle jerry's band
This is THE best song!
Best. Music. Ever.
That's so crazy seeing Jerry on the left
beautiful
God damn❤️🔥
My favourite version...
This needs a BluRay remaster... on the other hand nothing can rescue that god damn mic noise
and the visual crackling of Beta mag tape
My favorite version…
I was at 2 or 3 shows of this 5 night run, Winterland is my favorite place.
Here from Bill Walton on PMT
Don't know what they were thinking with the mic's in 74 but the music still sounds damn good. These winterland shows are amazing.
It was a wall of sound thing. I think the mics canceled feedback.
Goddamn come hear uncle Jerry s band!!
Is that Phil Lesh all bearded up? I didn't recognize him!
74 dead cant be beat
5:09 and away we melt
When life looks like easy street; there is danger at your door.
Same story the crow told me it's the only one he knows.
Hey Phillip, "Fuckin A" , sorry for the harsh languish but it did seem appropriate
@@alanblackford4176 COOL with me
Hunter was really a poet...I’m talking Dylan level caliber.
@john8820 Robert Hunter is the world's greatest lyricist. Without another similarly named Bob Hunt (and, later, Ampex) we wouldn't have magnetic tape.
Deeper connection here.
Why are comments not allowed on some videos? I feel like I’m missing out on all the cool stories and good vibes
It’s the same story the crow told me, it’s the only one he knows
beauty
Just the best band… EVER!
My birthday
Good ol' GD
Been all in since 77, probably would have graduated from Cornell and BORING. 67 orbits now. Just did a between days festival. DSO kills, fkn stu Allen is the future of our community
After so many times playing a song, most people just look at it like their job. not these guys. Sometimes they couldn't do it, but they always did it like it was a calling. When it's a calling, if you can't do it, you can't do it. Lets go chill out, or go out later and try again.
😊😊😊#LOVEOVERASLLWISDOM
For Todd Nance!! No time to hate, barely time to wait!
Yee haw!
What's the name of this Song 🍄🌁🌁🌁🍄🐟🐬🌍💧🌊💦🍄
Uncle John's Band
💕💞💚💥💯💔💔
Can it get any better than this?
Are you kind? Of course!
Stole my comment! Well played friend...and yes, I’m kind. ☺️
Is this version on a live album somewhere? I cannot find it
2:18
Is this version on an album somewhere?
I wish....I think there’s a Grateful Dead movie soundtrack somewhere but not sure if this is on it and can’t find it for digital download....however this is an app you can download for free and listen to these shows on there! It’s called Relisten!
I've often wondered if this song is about Jesus...
I'm trying desperately to get my band Traveler's Fold some presence. It's old school jam band rock n roll the likes of the Dead, Widespread, Phish, the Band, etc. Please check it out and give our dual album releases Dog Tooth and River Bend here on TH-cam a listen; it will give us a sorely needed morale boost and I promise you won't be let down by what you hear; thank you.
Hey now
Hey now
Sean
Prime Dead imo
Just be careful of those crow's man they seem to be around every where.
Saw them starting in the early 70’s. Where does the time go!
GET ME HOT HOT HOT!!!!!!!!
“FRATER PHIL”
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Hate? I hate, nobody. But, if you violate me, I will respond.
Hmm tasty
All music sounds great when you're tripping. Sober these guys are atrocious
I have never, not once, in 20+ years of listening to the Dead needed to augment my senses to enjoy their music. I really feel for people that seem to have missed the whole point of the band.
Ya. All music sounds good when your tripping. Thats why i always fire up some vanilla ice about an hour after i dose. Gd is not for everyone. But you are here listening and commenting. Haha
Sounds like this really only applies to you. They aren’t atrocious...that’s a fact. They’re fantastic musicians...now if you don’t like them that’s a different story. If you don’t like em don’t watch em
Also not all music sounds great when you’re tripping. Bad music sounds worse. Obviously you heard something good in their music to make you say that.
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
Nah but really. You couldn't be any more wrong. Cheers though.
Worst vocal performance ever of this song?
Ok it's a bit shaky at times, but when they all sing "how does the song go?", it stopped my heart.
it was surprisingly pretty bad..
If you want perfect vocals you aren’t listening to the right band...the music is worth the price of admission alone...
@@johnr8820 they didn’t have to post this turd.
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Awesome.
I don't like to swear, but fuck this is great.