Friend of mine found this video last night while researching the 006 his boss bought for work. I used to run and work on this model, and was like, "the knob right and below the control box! Pull it out and bring your frequency up!"
That control box, among other things, would've made sure the generators were in sync with each other frequency wise. Super important for 3 phase generators.
Sahmeebuilt the Mechanic 6 times. I went upstairs, mom went to play bingo, had to fix my own sabwitch, spilled mayo had to clean it up, then went back downstairs, only to remember I left the sabwitch on the conter, but I was to laat, ms puzzy jumbed up an eight it. Bye then I was not hungery, so wen bac down to wath too cee if it started. Then wunderred wy he dndnt us sumthin to pluge ntoo too cee if it werkd.
142 Hours? That thing is brand new. It was probably purchased new for $30,000, tested monthly for once an hour, then sold 20 years later for pennies on the dollar. Great score!...but an example of how wasteful the government is.
the sad thing is the government has to be wasteful to prevent insane wastefulness, it makes no sense until you work within the beast and see the INSANE animal that the most powerful government truly is...
I've seen the trailer units that have an ECU (environmental control unit (hvac)) cost about $100k about 7 years ago. Not sure of kw, but the mechanic told me it'll run a few houses without a problem.
alex4alexn - how so? And whay specifically? Is it getting the 3 bids to purchase something? Or the having to spend your entire budget, lest you not get it all the following year? Just curious, thanks.
You may want to check w/your local power company about connecting this in a power outage you may back feed power into the grid and electricute employees working to restore power.
I’m no expert on electricity but I know enough that you can’t just plug it in your house and I have to have a box so it doesn’t back feed to the lines because that would be bad because someone working on the lines could get lit up
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Yesss Battle Short! I've worked on many military gens like this, always got a kick out of battle short. Look at those schematics on the enclosure doors and you'll see the battle short switch literally bypasses every safety system on the unit. You could put a bullet through the sump and lose all the oil and she'll still run until the rings seize, love it. The voltage restrap board cannot switch a three phase unit to a single phase unit. You'll have the option to be 480 in one position and 208 in the other, all three phase. The external 120V residential outlets are powered by seperate windings in the stator. Theyll always have power even when the main breaker is opened. State municipalities in our area like these units because they are cheap cheap cheap. 142 hours is WAY high, especially if she sat for three years. In my experience (limited but still) these never have over 50-75 hours. Think about it... these arent little portable generacs for your table saw on a job site. These are for large Kw three phase applications that are prioritized by utility companies. These maybe power critical infrastructure for a couple hours three or four times a year. No glow plugs but look at the little bung on the intake manifold, thats an ether assist, AKA "winter kit" which you do have. Lead acid or NiCad for gensets, never AGM. Whenever we see optimas in an overachievers genset we recommend they get out of there. Absorbed glass mat batteries are mostly designed for impact absorption, not being on a trickle charger forever and ever and discharging once or twice a year. Hopefully your friend paid pennies for it, they're cheap but rare and def cool to play with. I'd buy one just to mess with the Battle Short...
@@VI0LET539 allis-chalmers made agricultural equipment, maybe a place that works on old tractors can find parts for you. I worked in a forklift shop for a while and they routinely had to find parts for 30-50 year old forklifts
I don't know what shop you were in where 142 hours is "high", every MEP I worked on had thousands of hours. During my deployment my two little MEP-803Bs reached over 9700 hours before the army took them away for referb.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
The exhaust threads are good for active military zones where we dug trenches and extended a second muffler and pipe below ground to make it quieter. No glow plugs...plus, check oil every 8 hours operation...they drink a lot of it! Mine has 140 hours and i change oil every 8 hours so it lasts forever
Thank you for your service. We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
I was a 52 Delta in the Army. I've done everything with these from total rebuild to start up because someone ran it out of fuel. The 2 lights on the control panel is for when your tiring it in with another generator like you said. Really nice to watch when someone gets it out of sync with the other generator it will come off the ground... Nice buy wish I had one. Enough power for a small village.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
over here in the netherlands 3 phase is null l1 l2 and l3 null (380 volt 50 hrz) and one phase is ..... one phase , so basicly you can hook up every fuse in the home on a different phase of the generator and run the gen as is
I would purge the fuel system, get a new filter, etc. You never know. There might be quite a bit of water in the tank after sitting for such a long time. If you run it low on fuel, you risk sucking in all that crap through the IP and ruin it + the injectors. Costly to repair.
Your right about flushing the fuel, putting a new filter. Also do that with the oil. I did notice the oil light was on. Also needs a new oil filter and drain the radiator and refill it with right amount of anti-freeze. I would check the fan belts and all the hoses. Just go through it and replace as much as you can. These big generators, especially the military have their own wiring outputs. They are not forgiving.
Nice score. Diesel generators are great; I have a very small one myself. Those hours are high for military use but for everyone else ... with regular oil changes and clean fuel, you'll get 100,000 hours out of it before it needs a major overhaul. Keep in mind though: DON'T RUN IT WITH NO LOAD OR AN UNDERSIZED LOAD except for very brief tests. If run without sufficient load, diesel engines will develop a "wet stack" condition and will require some time-consuming maintenance to fix.
James Punting they weren't but you obviously know everything so just keep telling yourself that they don't send anything into the field with more than 50 hours on it.......it's not true so stop passing inaccurate information.
4:20 Power output over 100% is called WEP "War Emergency Power". It's a state that allows for greater output at the cost of damaging the equipment. It's typically used in conjunction with something called "battleshort" where the safety features are bypassed to guarantee the equipment will continue to function during an emergency situation. Battleshort comes from "shorting" the equipment by replacing fuses with copper bus bars of sufficient thickness to handle the current
I have experience with this very same generator an god what I beast it is. We use ours to run our law enforcement fleet shop during hurricanes in Florida. And we run at full capacity! You have plenty of power to spare with this bad boy! We ran ours two weeks straight during Irma! We have a 300gallon aux tank next to it.
Why dislike something so valueable and interesting, i would love to go to a milaiary auction and get myself one. Thank you for sharing this. My brother Dom Dedam is an electricion. I am sure he knows the in and out of this thing. Its above and beyond.
I love all the know it all comments. 400 hz? I guess they cant read the the nameplate you got a close up on. It clearly says 60 hz....lol The 3 phase might be an issue, as you really dont want to run unbalanced loads, meaning loading 2 phases with current and 1 phase without any. That is definitely not a preferred way of doing it. Nice find and probably a rock solid unit. Just be careful man, you really look like you dont have any Electrical experience.
We ran these in iraq to power 8 shops. Each with dual 20k btu ac units and tons of stuff for testing/repairing electronics. We ran around 35 to 40kw most times.
They are really great generator's not as quiet as one of those civilian whisper watt Generators but still a nice unit the only thing rong is that AC has been out of business for so long that parts for that engine are very tough to find.
Engine RPM will dictate frequency, which should be 1800 RPM. The throttle lever (round black knob) is to the right of the air intake, just beneath the control panel. Once you increase the throttle you'll notice the frequency dial rotate up towards 60 Hz.
Frequency should be set under load. Depending on what you are feeding, probably should be just under or around 61Hz with no load. Will drop to 60 under load. Have a 300kW CAT at work that runs between 61 and 61.5Hz no load.
Curious that the frequency is very low and the frequency meter once had tags on it - probably tagged as inop or inaccurate. It's OK he's gonna get his o'scope out. Maybe a VOM that measures Hz would be easier. Good luck...
The voltage reconnection board (TB6) that you show at 6:18 doesn't switch it between 120 and 208, it switches it from 120/208 to 220/416. (It's always a three phase generator unless you modify it) The frequency adjust switch doesn't do anything on that model. (006a) you have to adjust the frequency with the throttle knob.
calvingreene90 ... I'm pretty sure these have a 6cyl Allis Chalmers turbo diesel. It's a really smooth, quiet power plant. Back in the mid 70s, while in Korea I would heat coffee water on the turbo when we were in the field.
there is a throttle cable adjustment behind the lower front door, screw it out to get to the right frequency. the frequency adjustment is for when you run them in parallel you should get the tm to use it properly
Frequency knob is directly linked to the governer rpm set point. Usually the rpm has to be on 1800 for 60 hz output. 1800 / 60 = 30 inversion steps per rotation inside of the generator... kind of... Gasoline engines that torques at higher rpm use different generators with different windings. These numbers might be slightly different for your genset. But for sure, frequency knob shall change the rpm of the engine.
You have a good runner there Russ, i maintain MEP's like that for a living. They dont all start up so easily after sitting for so long. If you need any info or have questions about MEP units hit me up. I've been watching your videos for a year or so now. Its awesome to see that unit in one of your video's.
Hi, I got one of these and need some help bringing it to life. It starts and runs, but the Hz are under 48 or 0 and the Volts only stay at 40 or 50. Any help would much be appreciated!
I used to work with these. This unit is strictly 3 phase and the voltage adaptations is reconfigurable for 208Y120 volts or 415Y240 volts... 50/60 ~ Hz for international use.
Thank you for sharing your interesting acquisition. What ever you paid was a fraction of the GSA price to the Air Force. During your video I did not notice that the checked: Coolant level; crank case oil level; inspect the water separators; inspect or replace fuel filters; inspect and replace oil filters. In other words, You demonstrated a fool's method of checking out this valuable piece of equipment. In the military we call this: PMCS "Preventative Maintenance Checks and Systems."
You can control the frequency of this generator with the throttle knob located on the right side right below the control panel. You can run it at 50 or 60 hertz. The rated load capacity just decreases at 50 hertz but swing how your in the United States you shouldn’t need to run it at 50 hertz. We use to power small military camps with these.
Could just plug a tool in the 110 outlet and see if it works, much simpler. Sure wouldn’t be sticking my tester in the open panel like that, just asking for a jolt. There’s a reason why the electronics are covered, for your safety,lol.
You didn't say what exactly what it was, but you made a reference to the frequency of the generator. You need to be careful about that. They made two versions of those generators. One runs at 60 Hz, the other runs at 400 Hz. By your comment "that can't be right" I bet you got a 400 HZ model didn't you?
Used to work to them. They really aren't designed for home use. As others have commented you have to have a load bank to put a heavy load on them. You might find a generator shop who could do it at least once a year. You have to maintain them, not just park it. On the flip side we had very few problems with them except for the batteries.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
@@sleuthprocess1588 Been out of the game for several years now. Since these are military it would be hard to find people to service them. In the Air Force "Power Pro" works on generators. They have a civilian and a military organization. You could call around the air bases around you and see if anyone would be interested at looking at it on the side. I am in Texas. The first thing you need if you don't have it is the service manual. I never received any training but just figured them out with a manual. The troubleshooting guide is pretty good.
Really simple and neatly done machine. Schematics on the side and operations manual. what else do you need? I'd love to own one.. not quite sure why i would need it but... i want it.
These things are rather expensive to maintain. Large oil capacities, large anti-freeze capacities, multiple fuel and oil filters. Crankcase oil and filter changes and system checks were $400-600 each. I've noticed that smaller villages will purchase them to maintain their water and sewer pumping stations during power outages. We exercised ours (at work) for 30 minutes every month under load.
The item you have is a 400Hz generator. It was designed to be a ground power unit for aircraft systems that use 400Hz. That doesn't seem to mean anything to you! ....Believe me, IT SHOULD! Just because your AC voltages measure to your liking, doesn't mean your 60Hz appliances (in your dads home) will agree. In fact; you will almost certainly damage ALL of them. You are probably looking at replacing the alternator half of the unit with one that is designed to produce 50/60Hz.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
You can put a muffler on it . I think it would be a lot quieter but cool build a flat bed don't mount axles to the skid plate you won't get it plated that way.
'Battle short' indicator and switch are just that... lines or the units taking power take battle damage and short out, that will trip the system and you can reset using the switch.
Hey Russ, Operating Instructions: Section 1-PRESTART CHECKS Step "G" - CLOSE ALL DOORS EXCEPT THOSE ON CONTROL PANEL END OF SET. Airflow control for proper cooling :-) Also, a 90° turn upwards on the exhaust would help with the noise. Make sure it has a flap though, like it currently does, so you don't accumulate water (or birds) in the exhaust. Since it's turbocharged, that helps muffle the exhaust too. In my hot-rod days, my mod'd turbo'ed Buick V6 was un-muffled and wasn't very noisy.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Aircraft generators are 400 Hz. That generator is a Ground Power Unit for aircraft. I t would damage almost any appliance that requires 60Hz, like a refrigerator etc. So much for an emergency power unit for disaster areas.
It's been a few years since you made this video. I hope that before you ran that old (tractor) engine again that you drained all the old fuel, changed the fuel filters, drained the oil, and changed the oil filters, and refilled with fresh fuel and oil. Diesel's are peculiar about having good and clean fuel.
My first thought, he looked at everything else. Obviously does't have the first clue about a diesel engine.. but then again neither did my former boss.
Put an elbow and a pipe going up on the exhaust. The doors on the side most be closed when running so the air comes in the back to cool the generator part and that will also cut down the sound. With the exhaust going up that sound will mostly go up. I wish I had that. I really want the older one with the multi fuel engine.
You may find it needs to be under a load to get readings that are accurate. Can I assume it came with a full set of maintenance and operation manuals? I am curious, if by now, you have put it to work?
I spent 15 years as a generator mechanic in the Army. Worked on this gen set a LOT. Its very reliable. I would suggest to this young man to find an operator's manual for it. He'll find that some of the stuff he said during the making of this video is not correct, after he reads the manual. It's not a motor, it's an engine. A motor runs on AC or DC voltage and current. Engines run on gasoline, diesel, and even kerosene. This unit appears to be in good condition. I would expect to pay $5,000 to $7,000. Parts are still available. Good luck with it. Its a great find!
So a motorcycle is an engine cycle Motorhome is an engine home How about General Motors You got an outboard motor on your boat ? No no sir it’s an outboard engine
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Battle mode or what they also call combat mode is an override. When activated that generator will run until it explodes regardless of any faults or issues. It's a run till it blows mode.
Btw - An enclosed trailer needs to be 10' long, 9' wide and 6'tall (minimal) but the maximum legal trailer width is 8' 6" so unless you can open the sides like a food truck (2 pop outs?) you're limited to an open trailer. I'll see what you've come up with? Good luck.
Trailer axles are designed for one purpose, from manufacture to dealer, then to the point of setup. They are sent back to a refurbish company. Then taken completely apart and checked out, then reassembled. The brake pads are not designed like autos or trucks are.
I worked on these in the army it's a 60kw and if you keep putting your hands in there you won't even feel it you'll be toast so fast. And if you keep cranking them knobs you see your fireworks for the year. You need to know before you glow
You mentioned taking it to disaster areas? You will have to pull guard on it 24-7. The Generator you have will power about ten homes with washer and dryer. Good job finding one.
Zombie Land I see them all the time in govt surplus auctions. Not unusual to see 10-15 at a time sold. They are sold as is, so it’s sometimes a gamble.
This unit would be very useful for a family gathering up at the cabin or a hugging party up at a cabin. There would have to be a plug-in to plug-in receptacles with cord on the cabin to interface with the generator in both 220 V mode and also 120 V mode.
The two slots in the sled are for forklift maneuvering. The "C" bolts near the top are for a Crain lift or maneuvering. Try eBay for the power plugs in Government surplus. The screw thread in the exhaust may allow you to put a vertical stack, the noise then goes up in the air, not across the yard Just like a truckers tractor unit. You'll need to log the hours the engine runs. This gives you the service intervals like the automobile has mile odometer for oil changes etc. Frequency is engine speed you will find the faster the engine the higher the frequency. The synchro lights are important when connecting two or more generators together (get the power company power station to show you to see how they bring online another alternator set). You'll get the idea.
You didn't hold the camera long enough on the spec plates... but I thought I saw 12-85. So im guessing this was built in 1985... and that hour meter has no doubt been replaced.
Looks like the old reliable stuff it was built to last, but the run ours is very short which means it’s not even broken in yet i’d imagine it last forever you take care of it.
said my another commenter you probably need a lode for the the voltage and frequency gauges to work correctly. more so the frequency meeter. this is way more complicated than i thought they were. but hell it started right away after 3 years with old gas as-well. very very cool!
awesome Russ, amazing piece of equipment, and to have it to help those in need is an honerable cause indeed, this is one of my top chanels on the tube and in 2 weeks i have watched all your vids, although i am still waiting for those fuses to be blown up still,lol.
If you still have this gen set, see if you can find an ASK (acoustical suppression kit) for it. They're like a foam core encasement that bolts right onto the set's frame. I must've installed forty or more back when I was a Generator Mechanic in the Army. You're gonna need to find an alternative to some of the K relays behind the control panel, and someone to rebuild the alternator if you can't find some retrofit. The missing tag was likely to just there to show that the generator is at the 10/20 level of maintenance standards, i.e. just as it came from the manufacturer. 10 level is the Operator's level of maintenance, and 20 level is the Mechanic's level...basic routine maintenance of the engine and minor electrical components. That is required before any Unit can turn the equipment in. How is it running these days?
How long does that thing run on a tank? Try getting mosquito repelling plants and I heard that there are sounds that repell them too. The music of skrillex is supposed to make them not bite. And you can buy nematodes that kill their spawn or eggs. You put them in ponds and water tons.
You could charge a large bank of batteries with that thing real fast and power your household 110 for a week or 2 on the cost of a few gallons of diesel. If you needed 220 for anything you have that covered. Who needs solar panels. ;)
The throttle is on the right side under the front panel. It's hidden behind the open intake air door. You use that to get the HZ close to 60, then you can use the control panel to fine adjust. You had this basically at idle after starting it, so throttle it up a little more. There is also an output for 400 HZ that can be used for aviation and to power aircraft, planes use 400HZ. Lots of really thoughtful features on these. You will be changing injector pumps. Often.
I sure hope you poured something in the diesel to clear up the algae in it... And maybe dilute with some fresh diesel. Also, always have something ready to snuff the intake with in case it runs away on you...that fiber board cover would have done the trick if it fit up in there. Sweet machine you got there...makes my 410A welding machine look small.
even if it works, military generators are difficult to use. In Alabama you will have to pay Southern Company a demand fee! yes i said PAY. the PSC passed a tax - fee for standby power use such as solar panel. Am sure it applies to large generators too.
Sweet! Try to find out the fuel consumption in gallons per hour. You can definitely run that diesel on a vegetable oil blend of 80% veggie and 20% gasoline. This will not harm it at all and you won't need to modify anything. Message me for more details. God is blessing you, Russ.
yea those keys concerned me....little mini lightning shot and your done son......the voltage adjustment is for the setting switch...110-120 v then the 200-240 v adjustments. ...great gen ...could use it here in FL
If the generator is putting out the full 6D kilowatts or 60,000 W of power in an hour at the rate of 120 V ,than your amperage that you could use is 500 amp circuit which should be way more than enough for a Normall home which usually has a 200 amp circuit at the maximum
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Notice you didn't reinstall that insulated panel you took off and latter shut the exterior doors without it in place. That's there for a reason.
I sense the knowledge of a 51D in you
I was a 52D
@@2naturesownplace his D is bigger
Friend of mine found this video last night while researching the 006 his boss bought for work. I used to run and work on this model, and was like, "the knob right and below the control box! Pull it out and bring your frequency up!"
I was fixing these back in the 70,s
cover up the reconfiguration panel. Walking around w keys hanging off your waist can get you a nice arc and hurt you.
Danny Santiago it’s not even on.
Num nut look again from 18:22 volt meter is definitely showing power.
Ya, and note keys are dangling almost right in front of his gonads.
It would only for a couple of seconds
@@boxwoodgreen not that big though
That control box, among other things, would've made sure the generators were in sync with each other frequency wise. Super important for 3 phase generators.
Skip to 16:40 If you don't want to waste your time
Thanks!
bro ! thank u ....
i got tired of hearing lets see if it fires up ,,,
It was all a waist of time
too late
Sahmeebuilt the Mechanic 6 times. I went upstairs, mom went to play bingo, had to fix my own sabwitch, spilled mayo had to clean it up, then went back downstairs, only to remember I left the sabwitch on the conter, but I was to laat, ms puzzy jumbed up an eight it. Bye then I was not hungery, so wen bac down to wath too cee if it started. Then wunderred wy he dndnt us sumthin to pluge ntoo too cee if it werkd.
142 Hours? That thing is brand new. It was probably purchased new for $30,000, tested monthly for once an hour, then sold 20 years later for pennies on the dollar.
Great score!...but an example of how wasteful the government is.
These are actually portable gens for the military, they wouldnt be hooked up to an ATS for exercise purposes. 142 hours is very high.
the sad thing is the government has to be wasteful to prevent insane wastefulness, it makes no sense until you work within the beast and see the INSANE animal that the most powerful government truly is...
Pretty much most military equipment are never used unless in combat environments or aircraft.
I've seen the trailer units that have an ECU (environmental control unit (hvac)) cost about $100k about 7 years ago. Not sure of kw, but the mechanic told me it'll run a few houses without a problem.
alex4alexn - how so? And whay specifically? Is it getting the 3 bids to purchase something? Or the having to spend your entire budget, lest you not get it all the following year?
Just curious, thanks.
You may want to check w/your local power company about connecting this in a power outage you may back feed power into the grid and electricute employees working to restore power.
I don't think this yahoo would recognize a transfer switch from a railroad switch.
Cut off main breaker at meter or hell just pull the meter and u know ur good
I’m no expert on electricity but I know enough that you can’t just plug it in your house and I have to have a box so it doesn’t back feed to the lines because that would be bad because someone working on the lines could get lit up
Those socks are a mosquito repellent, but that fedora is a woman repellent .
Justin E. Dayumm roasted 😂
Its not a Fedora , Its an asshat
He managed to get the SOB started and knew where to test the voltage... Not sure I could have done that much
Hats cool, BO is the woman repellant.
bahahahahahha dude going for the hubter a Thompson look.
22:19 The non-conductive cover that was taken off wasn't put back on.
I was waiting for the bang of a big arc.
Honestly it's natural selection at this point
he put them back in the bolt holes before he started it.
Thought i only seen him Put one bolt back in the threaded hole
beachbums2008 no he put both back on.
im in the navy and i work on the same generators we call them TQGs (tactically quiet generators) they will power just about anything and everything
That thing isn't a tac quiet. The 800 MEP series are. This is a MEP 006.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
AFter the 5th "Im just gonna fire this thing up" ...WHEN???
The brown panel you took off is called GPO-1,Type of fiberglass used in electrical insulation.I worked at a place we made many parts like that.
Not the brightest cookie in the jar....
Kenneth Silvers ........ lol
Kenneth Silvers sheeeeeeeeeeeettttt
Cookies are bright???
Yesss Battle Short! I've worked on many military gens like this, always got a kick out of battle short. Look at those schematics on the enclosure doors and you'll see the battle short switch literally bypasses every safety system on the unit. You could put a bullet through the sump and lose all the oil and she'll still run until the rings seize, love it.
The voltage restrap board cannot switch a three phase unit to a single phase unit. You'll have the option to be 480 in one position and 208 in the other, all three phase. The external 120V residential outlets are powered by seperate windings in the stator. Theyll always have power even when the main breaker is opened.
State municipalities in our area like these units because they are cheap cheap cheap. 142 hours is WAY high, especially if she sat for three years. In my experience (limited but still) these never have over 50-75 hours. Think about it... these arent little portable generacs for your table saw on a job site. These are for large Kw three phase applications that are prioritized by utility companies. These maybe power critical infrastructure for a couple hours three or four times a year.
No glow plugs but look at the little bung on the intake manifold, thats an ether assist, AKA "winter kit" which you do have.
Lead acid or NiCad for gensets, never AGM. Whenever we see optimas in an overachievers genset we recommend they get out of there. Absorbed glass mat batteries are mostly designed for impact absorption, not being on a trickle charger forever and ever and discharging once or twice a year.
Hopefully your friend paid pennies for it, they're cheap but rare and def cool to play with. I'd buy one just to mess with the Battle Short...
Do know where i can find one .i bought one but i need parts for this beast... Especially the fuel system thanks ..alot
@@VI0LET539 allis-chalmers made agricultural equipment, maybe a place that works on old tractors can find parts for you. I worked in a forklift shop for a while and they routinely had to find parts for 30-50 year old forklifts
I don't know what shop you were in where 142 hours is "high", every MEP I worked on had thousands of hours. During my deployment my two little MEP-803Bs reached over 9700 hours before the army took them away for referb.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
The exhaust threads are good for active military zones where we dug trenches and extended a second muffler and pipe below ground to make it quieter. No glow plugs...plus, check oil every 8 hours operation...they drink a lot of it! Mine has 140 hours and i change oil every 8 hours so it lasts forever
You keep your finger on the start button until the cycles meter needle hits 60 Hz.
I used to maintain and operate these in the USMC.
Thank you for your service. We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
this dude is 3 fries short of a happy meal !
Yes indeed it would appear he is not we informed on the operation of that unit quite fascinating.
Incest means never sleeping alone.
Spiffy dresser tho. Lol.
Many more than three !!!!!
@@jamescostello6529 ??? So what siblings don't leave each others side ? Even creepier....
I was a 52 Delta in the Army. I've done everything with these from total rebuild to start up because someone ran it out of fuel. The 2 lights on the control panel is for when your tiring it in with another generator like you said. Really nice to watch when someone gets it out of sync with the other generator it will come off the ground... Nice buy wish I had one. Enough power for a small village.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
over here in the netherlands 3 phase is null l1 l2 and l3 null (380 volt 50 hrz) and one phase is ..... one phase , so basicly you can hook up every fuse in the home on a different phase of the generator and run the gen as is
I would purge the fuel system, get a new filter, etc. You never know. There might be quite a bit of water in the tank after sitting for such a long time.
If you run it low on fuel, you risk sucking in all that crap through the IP and ruin it + the injectors. Costly to repair.
Your right about flushing the fuel, putting a new filter. Also do that with the oil. I did notice the oil light was on. Also needs a new oil filter and drain the radiator and refill it with right amount of anti-freeze.
I would check the fan belts and all the hoses.
Just go through it and replace as much as you can.
These big generators, especially the military have their own wiring outputs.
They are not forgiving.
D. Hansel the oil light was on because of it not being started just yet so there was no pressure yet
,go to toggle set it to 50or 60 then learn about line legs and back read the manaul or leave it alone
Nice score. Diesel generators are great; I have a very small one myself. Those hours are high for military use but for everyone else ... with regular oil changes and clean fuel, you'll get 100,000 hours out of it before it needs a major overhaul. Keep in mind though: DON'T RUN IT WITH NO LOAD OR AN UNDERSIZED LOAD except for very brief tests. If run without sufficient load, diesel engines will develop a "wet stack" condition and will require some time-consuming maintenance to fix.
Art C the hours are high for military use? Try again.......
James Punting had generators on deployment with 4000 hours so try again.
James Punting they weren't but you obviously know everything so just keep telling yourself that they don't send anything into the field with more than 50 hours on it.......it's not true so stop passing inaccurate information.
4:20 Power output over 100% is called WEP "War Emergency Power". It's a state that allows for greater output at the cost of damaging the equipment. It's typically used in conjunction with something called "battleshort" where the safety features are bypassed to guarantee the equipment will continue to function during an emergency situation. Battleshort comes from "shorting" the equipment by replacing fuses with copper bus bars of sufficient thickness to handle the current
I have experience with this very same generator an god what I beast it is. We use ours to run our law enforcement fleet shop during hurricanes in Florida. And we run at full capacity! You have plenty of power to spare with this bad boy! We ran ours two weeks straight during Irma! We have a 300gallon aux tank next to it.
Why dislike something so valueable and interesting, i would love to go to a milaiary auction and get myself one. Thank you for sharing this. My brother Dom Dedam is an electricion. I am sure he knows the in and out of this thing. Its above and beyond.
I worked on those, 30kw, 10kw and 5kw in the Army. I also do disaster recovery working with generators up to 75kw Cats.
I got to work on everything from MEP-802s to 009s, even got to work with the 012's a few times
I love all the know it all comments. 400 hz? I guess they cant read the the nameplate you got a close up on. It clearly says 60 hz....lol The 3 phase might be an issue, as you really dont want to run unbalanced loads, meaning loading 2 phases with current and 1 phase without any. That is definitely not a preferred way of doing it. Nice find and probably a rock solid unit. Just be careful man, you really look like you dont have any Electrical experience.
i wonder if these folks know they can get a manual for these. we know the military had one printed up. although it may be on disc these days.
That’s one heck of generator, and those allis engines are absolutely amazing
Perfect for those late night camping trips.. Nice vid. I hope to see more of this baby in action.
We ran these in iraq to power 8 shops. Each with dual 20k btu ac units and tons of stuff for testing/repairing electronics. We ran around 35 to 40kw most times.
They are really great generator's not as quiet as one of those civilian whisper watt Generators but still a nice unit the only thing rong is that AC has been out of business for so long that parts for that engine are very tough to find.
Used one just like it in the USAF. You don't need to convert anything. Just use a single phase. Or 2 Phases for 240Vac.
Engine RPM will dictate frequency, which should be 1800 RPM. The throttle lever (round black knob) is to the right of the air intake, just beneath the control panel. Once you increase the throttle you'll notice the frequency dial rotate up towards 60 Hz.
Bingo. Sounds like you were a 52D also.
Frequency should be set under load. Depending on what you are feeding, probably should be just under or around 61Hz with no load. Will drop to 60 under load. Have a 300kW CAT at work that runs between 61 and 61.5Hz no load.
Curious that the frequency is very low and the frequency meter once had tags on it - probably tagged as inop or inaccurate. It's OK he's gonna get his o'scope out. Maybe a VOM that measures Hz would be easier. Good luck...
I was too back in the day. Went to Ft. Belvior back in the late 70s.
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The voltage reconnection board (TB6) that you show at 6:18 doesn't switch it between 120 and 208, it switches it from 120/208 to 220/416. (It's always a three phase generator unless you modify it)
The frequency adjust switch doesn't do anything on that model. (006a) you have to adjust the frequency with the throttle knob.
Interesting, his life may be short lived me thinks, amazing how people that have no clue manage to stay alive.
Roland Elliott
My favorite part was when he was haphazardly probing around the high voltage leads with his $10 meter and no protective equipment.
You mean it wasn't a CAT III Fluke? OMG! ROFLMAO
i served over 22 years as a track mechanic and never wore jewelry or had anything hanging off me even my dog tags went in the tool box.
p.s. i still have all my fingers also.
Glad to see someone benefited from our tax dollars.
It is a MIL-SPEC diesel it starting easily is not a real surprise.
calvingreene90 ... I'm pretty sure these have a 6cyl Allis Chalmers turbo diesel. It's a really smooth, quiet power plant. Back in the mid 70s, while in Korea I would heat coffee water on the turbo when we were in the field.
just waiting for the video where this guy darwins himself poking around in the output wiring
there is a throttle cable adjustment behind the lower front door, screw it out to get to the right frequency. the frequency adjustment is for when you run them in parallel you should get the tm to use it properly
100% correct. that was the reason it was not at the right frequency! ~Russ
Frequency knob is directly linked to the governer rpm set point. Usually the rpm has to be on 1800 for 60 hz output. 1800 / 60 = 30 inversion steps per rotation inside of the generator... kind of...
Gasoline engines that torques at higher rpm use different generators with different windings. These numbers might be slightly different for your genset. But for sure, frequency knob shall change the rpm of the engine.
You have a good runner there Russ, i maintain MEP's like that for a living. They dont all start up so easily after sitting for so long. If you need any info or have questions about MEP units hit me up. I've been watching your videos for a year or so now. Its awesome to see that unit in one of your video's.
Hi, I got one of these and need some help bringing it to life. It starts and runs, but the Hz are under 48 or 0 and the Volts only stay at 40 or 50. Any help would much be appreciated!
I used to work with these.
This unit is strictly 3 phase and the voltage adaptations is reconfigurable for 208Y120 volts or 415Y240 volts... 50/60 ~ Hz for international use.
Finally, I found a technical comment from someone who actually knows what they’re talking about! Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your interesting acquisition. What ever you paid was a fraction of the GSA price to the Air Force. During your video I did not notice that the checked: Coolant level; crank case oil level; inspect the water separators; inspect or replace fuel filters; inspect and replace oil filters. In other words, You demonstrated a fool's method of checking out this valuable piece of equipment. In the military we call this: PMCS "Preventative Maintenance Checks and Systems."
It would make a great back up generator for your neighborhood when power goes out
You can control the frequency of this generator with the throttle knob located on the right side right below the control panel. You can run it at 50 or 60 hertz. The rated load capacity just decreases at 50 hertz but swing how your in the United States you shouldn’t need to run it at 50 hertz. We use to power small military camps with these.
Could just plug a tool in the 110 outlet and see if it works, much simpler. Sure wouldn’t be sticking my tester in the open panel like that, just asking for a jolt. There’s a reason why the electronics are covered, for your safety,lol.
You didn't say what exactly what it was, but you made a reference to the frequency of the generator. You need to be careful about that. They made two versions of those generators. One runs at 60 Hz, the other runs at 400 Hz. By your comment "that can't be right" I bet you got a 400 HZ model didn't you?
Used to work to them. They really aren't designed for home use. As others have commented you have to have a load bank to put a heavy load on them. You might find a generator shop who could do it at least once a year. You have to maintain them, not just park it. On the flip side we had very few problems with them except for the batteries.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
@@sleuthprocess1588 Been out of the game for several years now. Since these are military it would be hard to find people to service them. In the Air Force "Power Pro" works on generators. They have a civilian and a military organization. You could call around the air bases around you and see if anyone would be interested at looking at it on the side. I am in Texas. The first thing you need if you don't have it is the service manual. I never received any training but just figured them out with a manual. The troubleshooting guide is pretty good.
Really simple and neatly done machine.
Schematics on the side and operations manual. what else do you need?
I'd love to own one.. not quite sure why i would need it but... i want it.
OMG, it started right up. After sitting for 3 years it sounds sweet.
You better check with the D.O.T on the use of the axles Don,t think you can use them for safety.
He would be better off just mounting the thing on a double axle flat deck trailer used for hauling cars.
This thing can power up the entire trailer park not just his
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These things are rather expensive to maintain. Large oil capacities, large anti-freeze capacities, multiple fuel and oil filters. Crankcase oil and filter changes and system checks were $400-600 each. I've noticed that smaller villages will purchase them to maintain their water and sewer pumping stations during power outages. We exercised ours (at work) for 30 minutes every month under load.
The item you have is a 400Hz generator. It was designed to be a ground power unit for aircraft systems that use 400Hz. That doesn't seem to mean anything to you! ....Believe me, IT SHOULD! Just because your AC voltages measure to your liking, doesn't mean your 60Hz appliances (in your dads home) will agree. In fact; you will almost certainly damage ALL of them. You are probably looking at replacing the alternator half of the unit with one that is designed to produce 50/60Hz.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Now that brings back memories I use to work on 60k's and 30k''s in the 70's in Korea.
This looks like the generator in all of those National Guard recruitment commercials.
Excellent, very nice! Thanks for sharing this with us.
You can put a muffler on it . I think it would be a lot quieter but cool build a flat bed don't mount axles to the skid plate you won't get it plated that way.
You lucky duck.
I want one too !
Great video.
Godspeed.
That IS awesome and the grin you got from it startin up on first key, thats awesome too :)
'Battle short' indicator and switch are just that... lines or the units taking power take battle damage and short out, that will trip the system and you can reset using the switch.
Hey Russ,
Operating Instructions: Section 1-PRESTART CHECKS
Step "G" - CLOSE ALL DOORS EXCEPT THOSE ON CONTROL PANEL END OF SET.
Airflow control for proper cooling :-)
Also, a 90° turn upwards on the exhaust would help with the noise. Make sure it has a flap though, like it currently does, so you don't accumulate water (or birds) in the exhaust.
Since it's turbocharged, that helps muffle the exhaust too. In my hot-rod days, my mod'd turbo'ed Buick V6 was un-muffled and wasn't very noisy.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
400 hz?😁 Some folks don't have a friggin clue....
400HZ for aircraft and radar. That is a 50/60HZ generator set.
Lol.
400 Hertz is a aircraft Hertz
400Hz is used in airplanes. Remember, this is a U.S.A.F. generator.
Aircraft generators are 400 Hz. That generator is a Ground Power Unit for aircraft. I
t would damage almost any appliance that requires 60Hz, like a refrigerator etc. So much for an emergency power unit for disaster areas.
Cool. There is one on ebay now.. starting bid $3000. 1974 Fermont Div. Military Mep 006A Generator 60 KW 3 Phase 966 Hours
It's been a few years since you made this video. I hope that before you ran that old (tractor) engine again that you drained all the old fuel, changed the fuel filters, drained the oil, and changed the oil filters, and refilled with fresh fuel and oil. Diesel's are peculiar about having good and clean fuel.
I would have done an oil change before I attempted to start it also put at least 5 gallons of fuel in there
My first thought, he looked at everything else. Obviously does't have the first clue about a diesel engine.. but then again neither did my former boss.
Put an elbow and a pipe going up on the exhaust. The doors on the side most be closed when running so the air comes in the back to cool the generator part and that will also cut down the sound. With the exhaust going up that sound will mostly go up. I wish I had that. I really want the older one with the multi fuel engine.
If I'm not mistaken I used one of those before in Guam. First name I recall-- it was refered to as a sled.
That startup sound is so lovely
WOW ! With this thing you can start your own small city
hey Russ, increase the engine rpms and your frequency will come up. throttle is on the lower right hand side, behind the vent door
Thank You for the video. Very informative. I hope that you can put it to good use.
You may find it needs to be under a load to get readings that are accurate. Can I assume it came with a full set of maintenance and operation manuals? I am curious, if by now, you have put it to work?
I spent 15 years as a generator mechanic in the Army. Worked on this gen set a LOT. Its very reliable. I would suggest to this young man to find an operator's manual for it. He'll find that some of the stuff he said during the making of this video is not correct, after he reads the manual. It's not a motor, it's an engine. A motor runs on AC or DC voltage and current. Engines run on gasoline, diesel, and even kerosene. This unit appears to be in good condition. I would expect to pay $5,000 to $7,000. Parts are still available. Good luck with it. Its a great find!
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Motorhome is an engine home
How about General Motors
You got an outboard motor on your boat ? No no sir it’s an outboard engine
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Wow, I just stumbled onto this. That's awesome Russ!
Battle mode or what they also call combat mode is an override. When activated that generator will run until it explodes regardless of any faults or issues. It's a run till it blows mode.
Btw - An enclosed trailer needs to be 10' long, 9' wide and 6'tall (minimal) but the maximum legal trailer width is 8' 6" so unless you can open the sides like a food truck (2 pop outs?) you're limited to an open trailer.
I'll see what you've come up with?
Good luck.
Trailer axles are designed for one purpose, from manufacture to dealer, then to the point of setup.
They are sent back to a refurbish company. Then taken completely apart and checked out, then reassembled. The brake pads are not designed like autos or trucks are.
63 Bravo
I would love to have one of my own. Army spent a lot of money training me to run that beauty. Going to price one right now. Aloha
I worked on these in the army it's a 60kw and if you keep putting your hands in there you won't even feel it you'll be toast so fast. And if you keep cranking them knobs you see your fireworks for the year. You need to know before you glow
You mentioned taking it to disaster areas? You will have to pull guard on it 24-7.
The Generator you have will power about ten homes with washer and dryer.
Good job finding one.
Zombie Land I see them all the time in govt surplus auctions. Not unusual to see 10-15 at a time sold. They are sold as is, so it’s sometimes a gamble.
This unit would be very useful for a family gathering up at the cabin or a hugging party up at a cabin. There would have to be a plug-in to plug-in receptacles with cord on the cabin to interface with the generator in both 220 V mode and also 120 V mode.
What the hell is a hugging party?
The two slots in the sled are for forklift maneuvering. The "C" bolts near the top are for a Crain lift or maneuvering. Try eBay for the power plugs in Government surplus. The screw thread in the exhaust may allow you to put a vertical stack, the noise then goes up in the air, not across the yard Just like a truckers tractor unit. You'll need to log the hours the engine runs. This gives you the service intervals like the automobile has mile odometer for oil changes etc. Frequency is engine speed you will find the faster the engine the higher the frequency. The synchro lights are important when connecting two or more generators together (get the power company power station to show you to see how they bring online another alternator set). You'll get the idea.
You didn't hold the camera long enough on the spec plates... but I thought I saw 12-85. So im guessing this was built in 1985... and that hour meter has no doubt been replaced.
Looks like the old reliable stuff it was built to last, but the run ours is very short which means it’s not even broken in yet i’d imagine it last forever you take care of it.
said my another commenter you probably need a lode for the the voltage and frequency gauges to work correctly. more so the frequency meeter.
this is way more complicated than i thought they were. but hell it started right away after 3 years with old gas as-well. very very cool!
awesome Russ, amazing piece of equipment, and to have it to help those in need is an honerable cause indeed, this is one of my top chanels on the tube and in 2 weeks i have watched all your vids, although i am still waiting for those fuses to be blown up still,lol.
If you still have this gen set, see if you can find an ASK (acoustical suppression kit) for it. They're like a foam core encasement that bolts right onto the set's frame. I must've installed forty or more back when I was a Generator Mechanic in the Army.
You're gonna need to find an alternative to some of the K relays behind the control panel, and someone to rebuild the alternator if you can't find some retrofit.
The missing tag was likely to just there to show that the generator is at the 10/20 level of maintenance standards, i.e. just as it came from the manufacturer. 10 level is the Operator's level of maintenance, and 20 level is the Mechanic's level...basic routine maintenance of the engine and minor electrical components. That is required before any Unit can turn the equipment in.
How is it running these days?
How long does that thing run on a tank?
Try getting mosquito repelling plants and I heard that there are sounds that repell them too. The music of skrillex is supposed to make them not bite. And you can buy nematodes that kill their spawn or eggs. You put them in ponds and water tons.
You could charge a large bank of batteries with that thing real fast and power your household 110 for a week or 2 on the cost of a few gallons of diesel. If you needed 220 for anything you have that covered. Who needs solar panels. ;)
Very nice machine.
+RODALCO2007 you are everywhere
you are EVERYWHERE
you are here when there is intense electric current
RODALCO2007 aren’t you the wasp guy??
He's the New Zealander who makes high voltage wasp fryers.
The throttle is on the right side under the front panel. It's hidden behind the open intake air door. You use that to get the HZ close to 60, then you can use the control panel to fine adjust. You had this basically at idle after starting it, so throttle it up a little more. There is also an output for 400 HZ that can be used for aviation and to power aircraft, planes use 400HZ. Lots of really thoughtful features on these. You will be changing injector pumps. Often.
Maybe what’s wrong with the one I jus got at auction/all I know is the mechanics(none diesel) said it wouldn’t start.
I sure hope you poured something in the diesel to clear up the algae in it... And maybe dilute with some fresh diesel.
Also, always have something ready to snuff the intake with in case it runs away on you...that fiber board cover would have done the trick if it fit up in there.
Sweet machine you got there...makes my 410A welding machine look small.
even if it works, military generators are difficult to use. In Alabama you will have to pay Southern Company a demand fee! yes i said PAY. the PSC passed a tax - fee for standby power use such as solar panel. Am sure it applies to large generators too.
Sweet! Try to find out the fuel consumption in gallons per hour. You can definitely run that diesel on a vegetable oil blend of 80% veggie and 20% gasoline. This will not harm it at all and you won't need to modify anything. Message me for more details. God is blessing you, Russ.
And you know this particular engine because...?
The ones that we had when I was in the Army were mounted on trailers so they were more mobile.
But can it run Crysis?
He should plug a vgan into the 120v output
yea those keys concerned me....little mini lightning shot and your done son......the voltage adjustment is for the setting switch...110-120 v then the 200-240 v adjustments. ...great gen ...could use it here in FL
Some things you might find helpful with this unit.
AIR FORCE TO 38G1-96-2
AIR FORCE TO 38G1-96-4
Nice I like it!!! I want one! Great video of it, thanks Russ!
If the generator is putting out the full 6D kilowatts or 60,000 W of power in an hour at the rate of 120 V ,than your amperage that you could use is 500 amp circuit which should be way more than enough for a Normall home which usually has a 200 amp circuit at the maximum