Test driving an ALL-ELECTRIC, EV bus at ABC in Orlando, Florida.

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  • The awesome folks at ABC down in Orlando, Florida, invited me to their headquarters where they let me test drive an all-electric, EV coach bus. The Van Hool CX45E. I also got to drive an EV Turtle Top Mini Bus as well as a Double Decker Van Hool TDX. Roman Cornell, the President and CCO, along with his staff, Sarah Erdman, who is the Marketing Manager, and Jessie San Vincente, who is the Art Director at ABC, spent their entire day with me as they gave me an awesome tour of their campus. The staff at ABC were so kind and wined and dined me as well as showed me that ABC was so much more than a company that sells Van Hool buses in North America. And of course, I got a real in-depth look at the all-electric EV Van Hool CX45E. Special thanks to Thom Peebles, the Vice President of Marketing at ABC, for reaching out to me and making this happen. Thom had a family emergency and had to leave after picking me up at the airport, so I didn't get to hang out with him the rest of the time I was at ABC.
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  • @tellit4678
    @tellit4678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the heart I'm looking at your video 5 am of you testing ABC bus now❤️🤩🙏

  • @ingodwetrustdellaware-inc8322
    @ingodwetrustdellaware-inc8322 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congratulations to ABC.
    AMERICA 🇺🇸 BUS 🚌 CRAFTED
    Great to seen Roman Praise his Grandfather 👴
    He must be looking so Proud of him

  • @12review96
    @12review96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Good to see a realistic and measured approach to EV in the industry! A ton of good information in this one.

  • @rickfine9219
    @rickfine9219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James, I love your videos.
    Just enjoyed the ABC Bus special video. Just a note....back in 1969-70 Clancy Cornell was my bus driver when I attended St James School in Faribault MN.
    The forerunner to ABC was Faribo Bus Lines, so it was cool to see the our founder "Clancy" plaque at the beginning of the video.
    Keep up the good work.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow that is awesome! You got to meet him in person! What an honor

  • @TylerNally
    @TylerNally 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    James, ABC seems to be a fabulous group. They treated you like motorcoach royalty. Looks like you had a great time. Bravo!

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you Tyler. They were absolutely wonderful group of people that really took care of me..
      I enjoyed my tour of ABC

    • @fitnesswithsteve
      @fitnesswithsteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      James IS motorcoach royalty!

    • @raphaeld307
      @raphaeld307 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MotorcoachWorld Looks like it was easy as 1 2 3.

    • @tk9839
      @tk9839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raphaeld307 lol!

    • @itsacrazyasian
      @itsacrazyasian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been modernizing the fleet for a university and these guys are top notch. Bought a turtle top from them and trying to pick up another ev bus they have.

  • @Kevinskywest1
    @Kevinskywest1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great to see a real motorcoach driver, not a salesman behind the wheel

  • @KennethCournean
    @KennethCournean ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Roman, glad to see you're still going at it strong. Great presentation - Your Dad, Uncle and Grandfather would be very proud !

  • @michelhulsebos4580
    @michelhulsebos4580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe your best video yet. Loved it!

  • @stevenkirk9208
    @stevenkirk9208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!!! Please do more maintenance facilities.....

  • @vincenthprice2260
    @vincenthprice2260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow really blowed away and Impressed with the bus facility ABC with different types of buses and electrical Technology powering the future of EV buses so impressed keep the videos coming as you if I’m watching your channel then I’m a bus geek

  • @stevepackard8542
    @stevepackard8542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ABC- Always Be Charging! Sorry, I had to get that in!

  • @adamfischer6768
    @adamfischer6768 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating video and peak Into the future of bussing and what challenges are ahead. Kudos for ABC rolling out the red carpet for you and providing you with an enterouge of knowledgeable and accommodating staff.

  • @brewmasuisui2216
    @brewmasuisui2216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr.Cornel and crew doing a superb job. Another great and informative video James much mahalos 🤙🏽

  • @phillipgreene6325
    @phillipgreene6325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video I've seen. I'm a bus head myself hope to own one very soon

  • @tk9839
    @tk9839 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ABC is truly an impressive facility with a great group of ppl working there...I bet their company parties are a blast. Looks like you made some new friends in the bus world. This is one of my favorite videos of yours, thanks!

  • @vilenius187
    @vilenius187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a good mood video! Great job!

  • @alexmoran1243
    @alexmoran1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely, a neat experience…I have to say, I had the same shock factor when I first drove a Tesla…I just so used to a startup and some sort of rumble…LOL…Seemed like if the key was on, but the vehicle was not yet started…LOL…But it was ready to be put into gear and drive…I wanted to ask…What about the air compressor system and air dryer purging and all that good stuff…I mean the air compressor functions through the start of a Diesel engine…Where does the air compressor connect to on the EV ? You know to supply to the air tanks ?

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Alex great question! Thanks for the Post. So I got so much footage from this trip I couldn't fit it all into one video. Stay tuned for the next video. Their head EV mechanic goes through the entire bus and explains how everything works.

    • @alexmoran1243
      @alexmoran1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MotorcoachWorld Great…I’ll stay tuned…I’m sure you were excited about the experience altogether…Great coverage…And neat to know that ABC Companies (Winter Garden, FL) are so diverse when it comes to there services on coach buses and not staying stuck strictly on Van Hool…

  • @bystanderbutch3509
    @bystanderbutch3509 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys are great. Our company would send us here when something new came out to keep up with the latest technology. If you needed schematics for any bus, they would give it to you free of charge. They would feed you too. Of course we bought most of our buses from them and a whole lot of parts.

  • @joeschramer2500
    @joeschramer2500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ABC is our dealer. You probably saw a bunch of coaches with my employers name all over them. Yep i saw a bunch of them on your tour.

  • @flh5959
    @flh5959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I drove back in the day, I had been to the ABC facility in the Los Angeles area. I thought that was big but wow, this is the headquarter huh? It dwarfs the LA one.

  • @railvlogger1439
    @railvlogger1439 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a top bloke Roman Cornell is. I can feel the passion he has for buses. Great video.

  • @HankSnowgrandslamfishing
    @HankSnowgrandslamfishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You were just up the street from my base. Shame I didn't know you were here would have loved to meet you. take care

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Hank! This wont be my last time visiting ABC. Now that I know you are just down the street, I will hit you up next time I'm in the area!

    • @HankSnowgrandslamfishing
      @HankSnowgrandslamfishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MotorcoachWorld That would be awesome. I work for Mears Transportation and saw some of our buses up there at ABC. I have picked up a bus or two from there as well. Just let me know when and I'll be happy to meet you Sir.

  • @actemple3282
    @actemple3282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous busses

  • @_Jin_Kim_
    @_Jin_Kim_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo. Really enjoyed this episode!

  • @rodneystewart8958
    @rodneystewart8958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure this video made ABC some extra customers

  • @offrails
    @offrails ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would imagine that the next stage would be pure "ground-up" electric buses that are designed to be electric from the beginning, rather than as a retrofit of an existing chassis and sacrificing the luggage compartment. I live in a city that recently acquired a couple of electric buses and aside from some extra components on the roof, they are essentially just a Gillig Low Floor transit bus. Tesla designs its cars with the battery pack at the base of the vehicle, resulting in a low center of gravity, and if adapted for a bus design, it could result in a huge safety benefit. Very fascinating otherwise - though I do not have a need to own bus (or even a place to park one, though it would be cool to haul friends around in), I recently bought a Model 3 and would not want to go back to an ICE vehicle.

  • @damon2364
    @damon2364 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video James. Lots of good info and honesty from ABC.

  • @Metronome_Heart
    @Metronome_Heart ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love the blurred out Disney Gillig @ 10:21 😂

  • @williamd7823
    @williamd7823 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great documentary. I drive by this facility nearly every day. I didn't know the extent of their business. The electric bug is also catching the Bus world and commercial trucks. Aircraft, too. It's going to take a while for the inftastructure to catch up...eventually it will. Keep up the good work.

  • @Nakedbilove408
    @Nakedbilove408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love diesel buses, 💞💓

  • @merrittvillekid
    @merrittvillekid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting. I can't say I would feel completely safe driving one. You would have to be careful with a silent vehicle like that around people. Almost should have a continuous horn like an electric forklift has

  • @Telcom100
    @Telcom100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. At 6:35, using the rule of thumb for 50kw charging a 600kwh battery, it would be more like 12 hours, not 3 hours. At 6:26, the charger display shows 74kwh added in an hour and 53 minutes.

    • @AntonAtan
      @AntonAtan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also charging from 90 to 100% takes much longer than 10 to 20%.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntonAtan Not on that low a charging current. For that 600kWh battery, the 50 kW charge is not even 0.09C---the battery would limit to that above about 99%. Between 20 and 80%, they can easily take 3 or 4C.
      That little charging station is for a bus what the mobile charger you plug into a normal wall socket is for a car.
      (C is the factor between charging power in kW and capacity in kWh, so charging a 600 kWh batter in 1 hour would be 1C, in 2 hours would be 2C, in half an hour would be 2C, etc.)

    • @AntonAtan
      @AntonAtan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @HenryLoenwind idk about 1 2 or 3C but I'm talking out of my experience driving electric bus from Ohio to Chicago we didn't wait to charge it completely to 100% because it was taking forever.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntonAtan If you noticed a slowdown, then you weren't using a massively undersized charger.

  • @sixpackmrttomskinner8792
    @sixpackmrttomskinner8792 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great insight to E-buse's and agree hydrogen Engine added will make the difference years ago I drove a prototype van type bus that had a small 2cl engine that provides generator power to run the electrical..

  • @robertfinley6288
    @robertfinley6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An excellent video ABC is a very large and can do it all operation. Electric car, truck and transit bud batteries have caught on fire do the electric buses have a fire suppression system.

  • @charlescorey184
    @charlescorey184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous and informative video James. I loved it and do not even work in the bus industry.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words Charles. Much appreciated.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    James your editing is superb and glad to meet you Tues morning and tour the facility you run a awesome operation and glad to meet your staff too seems like everyone has a team effort mentality and approach and makes things run smoothly thanks for all you did hope to meet you again and take you up on that gig you told me about

  • @alblua
    @alblua 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really enjoyed hearing Roman's perspective on electric; it's a very honest, realistic, but optimistic view on electric power in the bus industry. Definitely can't wait to see if hydrogen technology becomes more prevalent in the bus industry!

    • @southaussiegarbo2054
      @southaussiegarbo2054 ปีที่แล้ว

      South australia runs some busses on natural gas(some of which is hydrogen)

    • @shezadshah3740
      @shezadshah3740 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wouldn’t a 50kwh charger charge a 600 kWh bus in 12 hours? If it was only 3 hours that would be quite great tbh. We need more of those special chargers they have down there!

    • @cullenevanhall
      @cullenevanhall ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shezadshah3740 I just made the same comment. Math error there.

  • @Smidge204
    @Smidge204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want truck/large vehicle friendly charging stations to be part of the federally-funded charge station buildout, lobby your state transportation department. The design and layout of these stations are the responsibility of the states, and they'll probably hand it off to private consultants for the actual layout, so you need to put pressure on the state to include accommodations for larger vehicles in the requirements.

  • @MarkRDKing
    @MarkRDKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I see batteries becoming more efficient and smaller before I see hydrogen becoming the new power generator. It is all going in the right direction. Fantastic video James!!

    • @austinlawler3739
      @austinlawler3739 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but hydrogen is very far along. Example Toyota has been working on hydrogen powered cars for years, and there are already hydrogen stations in the US and Canada. I don't think the leap is that big, or that far down the road. But yes, batteries will get smaller and more efficient eventually. The biggest issue is every video James has shown with electric buses is the batteries and other components are made by ABB. A conglomerate, but there has to be a big upside for them to push this technology on buses or trucks. So it could take longer, only time will tell.

    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@austinlawler3739 The issue is the cost of the fuel cells and the infrastructure to support it. Fuel cells, can never be cheap. They have a lot of platinum in them. And the process is horribly inefficient. You need three times the electricity to make enough H2 to drive a vehicle ten miles, than the same vehicle operating on batteries will use. Max efficiency for a fuel cell vehicle is less than 30%. Equivalent to a regular vehicle. Where as a BEV is 90%-95% efficiency. And while you can install charging just about anywhere in a day or two for a very modest amount, A hydrogen station takes months to build and certify because hydrogen is a fugitive molecule. Its the smallest in the world. Which means is VERY hard to contain it. Which means very expensive infrastructure.

  • @andyfashant4677
    @andyfashant4677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James, where is the point in this great video where you ask ABC Bus about a redesign/retrofit of the Van Hool toilet for all the splatter and mess??? LOL. Now that I am doing some driving for an all Van Hool operator, I have to say you are right on target about the Van Hool toilet issues.
    Great video--hats off to ABC Bus, proud that their origins trace back here to Minnesota.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL I Actually did ask Roman, the President of the company that question. And I have it on camera LOL. dont Worry. I got so much content from my trip to ABC I will be putting out several more videos on this topic... And I will play the footage of what Roman said about the toilets on the Van Hool. Stay tuned!

  • @OceanChannelProductions
    @OceanChannelProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello again, finally came back to the channel after a year. I just herd of trailer buses, will you talk about them?

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome back. I haven't heard anything about them .. I'll look into it

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The electric bus was cool. The video tour of the electric bus and it’s drive train was very informative.
    The quietness of the bus is fantastic! You don’t realize just how noisy a diesel motor coach bus is until it isn’t. I was amused at how the lack of noise in the electric bus initially messed with your actual driving of the bus initially. But I bet you , your drivers and all the passengers can get used to that quietness and lack of noise real fast.
    The EV installation on that bus was optimized for access, not space efficiency. Which at this point in time is a high and cost effective strategy. Over time once the bus world gets used to using EV buses, the packaging of the electric bus driveline and component infrastructure will improve radically. Right now, everyone is noticing the space the batteries and their control hardware takes up in the luggage bays. But as you see, the footprint of the motor takes up only a fraction of the space the Diesel engine and transmission does. There is a lot of real estate taken up by the diesels cooling system, exhaust system emissions system, fuel, coolant, oil tanks and its associated components which has yet to be recovered and repurposed. Once the electrical systems start getting sorted out and evolve and are redesigned to actually fit a bus vs just adapted to fit wherever they can, a lot of that space will return and maybe at the end of the day, the electric drivetrains may actually require only 80% to 60% of the space a diesel installation does.
    The commercial large vehicle charging network is in its early days of rollout. It will definitely improve, and quite rapidly to. Remember, a large portion of the commercial large vehicle diesel fleet refuels at its home terminal locations. And that is all but invisible to the general public. So the same will be with commercial EV’s.
    While cross country or long distance bus and truck travel may remain the realm of the diesel for some time, my opinion is urban short distance truck and bus operators will rapidly adopt and change to electrical vehicles as they become price and operational cost competitive with diesel. And the regulatory environment is also driving that adoption rate.

    • @PremiumFuelOnly
      @PremiumFuelOnly ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I prefer my turbo diesel music.

    • @americanrambler4972
      @americanrambler4972 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PremiumFuelOnly Yes, there are certain gas and diesel vehicle engine drive lines which are music to my ears and very enjoyable to feel and experience. Like old school V8 motors in 50’s through 70’s cars, the growl and scream of those old 2 stroke Detroit diesels, the smooth purr of a good running straight six or old straight eight motor. The. Sound of a v twin Harley Davidson motorcycle engine.

  • @davefroman4700
    @davefroman4700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The issue with the vanhool is they are taking an existing product and cramming batteries into it. Instead of going with a skateboard design. A better packaged design would have a substantial impact on the amount of batteries that can be placed, without greatly impacting storage. And it would probably improve the handling by having all the mass spread out.

    • @mfbfreak
      @mfbfreak ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but imagine the investment in developing a completely new chassis. I'm sure they will eventually do that, but for now it's a smart approach to use some conventional buses as a test bed. First figure out exactly how much battery capacity and motor power you need, and how that can be used by the customer - the situation they have right now.
      Once you know what it can do with which equipment, you can start designing a purpose-designed EV frame. But with that comes a lot of regulatory hoops you have to jump through, a lot of engineering cost etc. So you have to make absolutely sure that you can recoup all that engineering investment, and do market research.
      As for what packaging would make sense - i'd do it like the DB did it with their 1960s battery electric rail buses (ETA 150). The batteries were slung under the frame, and could easily be taken out with a forklift in minutes. Those rail buses were used all the way from the 60s till the 90s.

    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mfbfreak They either disrupt themselves, or someone else will. 99% of all the business models in history have failed to survive technology disruptions. All it will take is for BYD to come out with a long range coach with a 450wh/kg battery and a battery swap system (several in development at the company are already passing that density) and they will corner the market. The cost of operating an EV coach will be 1/4 the cost of a diesel coach. We are already seeing that play out in the transit sector.

  • @PremiumFuelOnly
    @PremiumFuelOnly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video, but they didnt mention the HVAC system. Is it a special Compressor ran by the High Voltage side?

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will explain all that in the next video. Stay tuned ☺️

  • @Vector_QF8
    @Vector_QF8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, Disney land for Bus Geeks! ABC is amazing. Super hosts🎉. Great Culture❤ James, you were in a good place😊

  • @curtismackjr.6108
    @curtismackjr.6108 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a well produced video…and I have a newfound respect for the ABC family l

  • @howardreid6996
    @howardreid6996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi James , I was looking forward for you test driving EV Motor Coach , and telling us your experience on maneuvering on the interstate ..wow.
    I enjoy your information videos.
    Thanks
    Howard R. ( Driver Hampton Jitney LI. N.Y. IMG.)

  • @NackDSP
    @NackDSP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hydrogen will quadruple the cost per mile to drive that bus. More equipment to maintain, and the perpetually high cost of hydrogen.

  • @rupertbare2023
    @rupertbare2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating video. What a great outfit ABC seems to be. Is there anything they can't handle? (Rhetorical question). 👍

  • @TellurideS13
    @TellurideS13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:33 Mount Olive Missionary Baptist Church! That's the church I used to attend. Groveland!

  • @michaelgreen6268
    @michaelgreen6268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James, Great Tour of ABC, been there many times to pick up parts for the Company I drove Busses for ESCOT, Thank You so much, really enjoy your Blogs, brings back great memories!!!

  • @merrittvillekid
    @merrittvillekid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If these buses are the future big cities and I'll throw in NYC are going to have to change the way they accommodate motor coach buses you can't even get parking never mind charging stations

  • @tha1n0nly76
    @tha1n0nly76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only benefit I see coming from a all battery coach is the quietness of it especially for the passengers in the very back… otherwise as an operator this is disturbing and I don’t like it personally. I love the sound of the engine and even the smells that come with it. I don’t know about this, doesn’t even seem as safe.

  • @stevedavenport1202
    @stevedavenport1202 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the idea of a fuel cell to extend the range, but, yikes, hydrogen is super volatile.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind ปีที่แล้ว

      It sounds interesting, until you realise that the energy density per volume taken up is about the same for hydrogen and batteries (700 bar pressure vessels are nearly round...) and filling the tanks is only about twice as fast as recharging the batteries at a properly sized charger.

  • @kapenacummings9925
    @kapenacummings9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Hawaii ABC stands for “Always Bring Cash” only because Waikiki is littered with ABC convenience stores

  • @cullenevanhall
    @cullenevanhall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Roman got his math wrong on the charging time on the 50kw charger, a 676 kwh battery would take 13.5 hours to charge not 3.

  • @christopherfranklin3769
    @christopherfranklin3769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ABC all bus company

  • @victord5868
    @victord5868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EV busses are unheard of 10 years ago .... Its great leaps forward compared to diesel busses.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roman is definitely right James is a good guy I personally can say that about him

  • @ultimatem9178
    @ultimatem9178 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a really great video. It felt like I was back in school. That was some very informative info on the power grid. How do these E-buses compare in weight to diesel powered buses? Also, I can't help but think the ability to drive an E-bus through snow has been severely compromised.

  • @lovedfriend2020
    @lovedfriend2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    30:04 I spy a DISNEY BUS!

  • @jeffherdz
    @jeffherdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    James, I was wondering how the acceleration on the coach was ? Does it put your passengers in their seats like a Starship hitting Warp speed, or was it pretty smooth ?

    • @mikeschulte4271
      @mikeschulte4271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea that’s one thing I’m wondering is how is the acceleration of the bus?

    • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
      @hewhohasnoidentity4377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeschulte4271 it can be computer controlled to make even the worst driver feel like a smooth ride. The manufacturer can program it to suit their brand identity. Similar to how Harley designed for the engine sound.

  • @CaptainJohnmaddux
    @CaptainJohnmaddux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really really enjoyed this video James thanks for sharing and maybe you could leave the companies website and the link would love to get in touch with them here in Kansas City school bus driver trainer Sailing Instructor video editor from Kansas City that used to be a yellow cab driver that used to be a limo driver job

  • @southaussiegarbo2054
    @southaussiegarbo2054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ev motor would be between 1125 and 1130 bc of pallet weight of about 33pounds(or 15kg)

  • @iankellogg
    @iankellogg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the ev busses are really cool but they need to improve the tech inside the busses. most of these busses can't even charge at the max rates the commercial chargers can put out. Add to that the battery sizes in the bus just isn't large enough to be practical. I really think you won't see mass adoption of the EV busses until they store enough charge to max out a driver's cdl time.

    • @thegodblogger3812
      @thegodblogger3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right, it's coming. I predict in the next 5 years EVs will be the norm. Just waiting on driverless coaches. That will be the ultimate revolution.

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EVs won’t be the norm for 20+ years or more. Their infrastructure isn’t there. Resources aren’t there. Money isn’t there. Pipe dream is there, but that’s it.

    • @stevepackard8542
      @stevepackard8542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegodblogger3812 If EV's are the norm in 5 years, we're all going to pay - literally and figuratively!!!

    • @iankellogg
      @iankellogg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegodblogger3812 a driverless coach sounds like a train with more steps

    • @iankellogg
      @iankellogg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qwerty112311 i think on new car sales EV's will be a large majority of the market in 10 years. EV Trucks don't make sense in any terms. people who tow shouldn't use an EV, and people who don't tow probably shouldn't be being a truck.

  • @chaoszombie9995
    @chaoszombie9995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think the best thing for the bus industry is hybridization, it’s the best of both worlds 🤷‍♂️ and I’m a HUGE electric vehicle guy so that’s saying a lot 😅

  • @mikeschulte4271
    @mikeschulte4271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds like a good idea but their is no luggage storage it looked like. And when the batteries go bad in a few years r they recycled or trash? It seems like a good idea but their is some quirks they need to work out still it seems like it

    • @chaoszombie9995
      @chaoszombie9995 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most batteries are indeed recycled into things like AA batteries and the battery for a power tool!

  • @DavidCinelli7815
    @DavidCinelli7815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like all your content. I wonder what those bus electric motors cost? And bus battery costs (electric bus)? I also understand when electric cars crash and burn it wreaks havoc ie they burn for hours.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish I could get 4 of those panels on my 98 Ford homemade camper van I want at least 1,000 watts of solar on here

  • @daveinthewildOG
    @daveinthewildOG ปีที่แล้ว

    Ever see a gas station full of cars lined up. Not during some sort of major gas shortage, but just in a busy area potentially during rush hour. Now thinking of that paradigm, imagine a whole bunch of people at the same time deciding they all need to have their batteries charged. This parking lot charging paradigm is ridiculous. We need to figure out some sort of a rolling charging system.

  • @louisturner5141
    @louisturner5141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only question left is would you op for those to be your tool of choice? All things considered. Thanks for the vid.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good question. For now EV vehicles would not fit in our fleet. They simply won't make the range our passengers demand of our buses. And I definitely don't want to turn away all of our customers who book our buses to go between 800 to 1,000 miles in one sitting.
      I am not afraid of EV technology nor am I against it. In fact I really wish an all-electric motor coach could get the same range a diesel one could so that I can start including EV'S in our fleet.
      I mean it's obvious. Why wouldn't I never want to pay a diesel bill again...
      But right now the answer to that question is because it will not satisfy the needs of our customers.

  • @callmebigpapa
    @callmebigpapa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First I love this team for the good work they are doing. Tesla has pull through chargers now and of course the network is open to all. Hydrogen is dead.....with the new golden battery with 5460wh/kg density. Battery density is rising everyday. CATL has test batteries in the labs that have hit 711 Wh/kg. The Golden battery can charge 375miles of range in 10min. CATL's condensed battery powers a 4-ton aircraft and are working on a 8-ton electric aircraft with a flying range of about 2,000 to 3,000 km by 2027-2028. It is all batteries from here on out. They only use case I see for hydrogen is extrememly large ships that can make the hydrogen on board or maybe Locomotives that can tow a tanker behind them with the hydrogen.

  • @shadow211e
    @shadow211e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to make my first trip to ABC to get a new bus, it’s a lot of fun

  • @castletransport
    @castletransport ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding! Just shows that for bus EV's we're nearly there. Thanks for this James. We love our EV car a Nissan Leaf, always reliable and trustworthy.

    • @frankavery8306
      @frankavery8306 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @thesehere
      @thesehere ปีที่แล้ว

      Ummm, how's this thing stuck on the 405 in 4+ hrs of crawling traffic with the luggage bins stacked to the max. Not even gonna think about the inside overhead bins filled with all kinds of 💩 just asking 🤨

  • @janakpurivlogger2244
    @janakpurivlogger2244 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are u Nepali origin bro😊😊?

  • @Yellwolf
    @Yellwolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent
    Trains are electric so the future is solid.

  • @oscarsalazar4063
    @oscarsalazar4063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video, thanks motor coach world. Awesome company.

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if these Buses have enough range to do 100-200 miles. If NJ Transit decided to order them these buses must be able to do a 130 mi 210 km 319 bus NYC-Atlantic City trip

  • @BusDriverLife
    @BusDriverLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool video!! Looks like an awesome experience!

  • @RipRoaringGarage
    @RipRoaringGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha that red Mustang passing you ...that made me laugh.

  • @disneyfan9099
    @disneyfan9099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to Orlando! This was great video to see and getting to see some local buses in for service. Kinda sad that you had to blur out the Disney world buses lol.

  • @kc2dc444
    @kc2dc444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, what a well run company where the employees really care and take pride! Such a cool tour! I see a DC Circulator Bus there. Seems far from DC, but that shows how unique this place is.

  • @bicyclerider8218
    @bicyclerider8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spectacular, a wonderful and informative video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @HenryLoenwind
    @HenryLoenwind ปีที่แล้ว

    If there's one thing we've learned over the last 20 years with electric cars, then it's that retrofitting a chassis that was designed for a combustion engine gives you a garbage product---too small battery, wasted storage, less mileage, more expensive, and so on.
    There's no reason this should be different for buses. To get a good electric bus, the whole bus needs to be designed from the ground up for an electric drivetrain. This includes designing it to carry the batteries without sacrificing storage space, just like it has been done with diesel tanks. Those also are not barrels sitting in the middle of a storage compartment...
    And BTW: Public charging for heavy/big vehicles doesn't exist at the moment. Just like there was no public charging for cars before they were around. Electric buses and trucks at the moment are only owned by fleet operators who use their own charging stations. At some point, this will shift. Most likely, semis will be the first heavy vehicle class to see enough independently operated vehicles to make it commercially viable to build charging stations, even though buses are the vehicle class that's already available as electrics. But unlike semis, buses are much more fleet vehicles running fixed routes and not as dependent on public refuelling.
    It may be speculation, but to me, it seems that what we saw with cars will repeat itself with heavy vehicles. First, there will be some pilot stations that are effectively useless, and then Tesla comes along and builds up a network to support the vehicles they sell. But unlike the first time, this time Tesla has an active hand in the standardisation process of those high-powered chargers. So there will be no divide between Tesla chargers and all the others. So I wouldn't be surprised if they'll end up with a near-monopoly for heavy vehicle charging unless some truck or bus manufacturer copies VW and has to pay for another charging network to make up for faking their exhaust data...

  • @gregoryrobinson161
    @gregoryrobinson161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video...... Thanks james!!

  • @RollinHomies
    @RollinHomies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s really hard to believe this video does not have more views.
    I am now on a mission!

  • @patrickpepper2490
    @patrickpepper2490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You were heading toward Clermont on your drive. Really nice town! If you ever move to Florida I highly recommend Clermont for living.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Patrick. Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I really like it down there.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder what they do what those engines?

  • @Fieldsonyoutube
    @Fieldsonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

    The size of them batteries certainly rule out a lot of luggage bound trips, watched your other channel and I'm thinking the end of term airport runs you had with luggage loaders as a example and also your other vacation charters, on the flip side it could be used a lot on day excursions a lot, but even then your going to have to find where you can charge the coaches, could a network of coach companies provide that charging spot and rest areas for the drivers whilst it charging at the target city/destination? Over in the UK I know the general haulage companies have something similar set up, so could it be done with coaches? I think it could work if it not already done.

  • @Skullitor
    @Skullitor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James, Another fantastic video. Very informative.

  • @dougwoodie6675
    @dougwoodie6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Job James and ABC. If you really want to have your mind blown visit the Vanhool factory in Belgium.

  • @umichfan21
    @umichfan21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone like Indian Trails could use the EV for the Michigan Flyer & D2A2

  • @rogerr.7228
    @rogerr.7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last Saturday I just rode onboard the same Van Hool t2140 I rode at end of July, too and from a Special Olympics flag football competition. The company this coach is owned by is a small company called Progressive Travel, based in Spencer, WI. All of their motorcoach fleet are strictly Van Hool. Mostly t2145 and t2140, but they also have a Tx45 and a Cx35 as well. This isn't all motorcoach transportation. They also have some Ford Transit mini shuttle buses and many Bluebird flat nose school buses. The school buses are owned by the same people but have different company name. The motorcoaches and mini shuttles are Progressive Travel and the school buses say Burnett Transit on them. I have no idea why that is they have two different names so don't ask me as I'm not the right person lol

  • @I_am_Allan
    @I_am_Allan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Bus Nuts, Nerds, and Geeks!

  • @craigslistbuslistingsofnor6494
    @craigslistbuslistingsofnor6494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    World class operation. Thanks James!!!

  • @berylwhite2983
    @berylwhite2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very professional great video 👍 congratulations to ABC they look like a super company

  • @AntonAtan
    @AntonAtan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In case you are driving back to Chicago from Florida you should visit MCI's parts wearhouse in Louisville KY. It is huge and also used as training facility for technicians. MCI's repair shop in Des Plaines does everything ABC showed you. Ask them if you can do a video there next time you stop by.

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like fun! Maybe MCI will reach out to me and invite me as ABC did 😉.

  • @PremierAutoMan86
    @PremierAutoMan86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was awesome! Many thanks for this.

  • @Chris-cj5rh
    @Chris-cj5rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How often are you by ISR? I really want to try to say hi to you in IRL!

    • @MotorcoachWorld
      @MotorcoachWorld  ปีที่แล้ว

      Come over to our office. I'll give you a tour of our facility. Email me. jwang@peoriacharter.com

  • @stephenlevan6676
    @stephenlevan6676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic episode James!