They’re not overspending, their redirecting where they spend the money. People spend most of the check at Walmart and target for consumable goods, why not just run that through your business and get money back?!? Build an asset for yourself and not a corporation. That’s an E quadrant mindset you have.
@@christophershaw5900 False. The products Amway sells are way over priced. A 24 pack of their water costs about $46 plus shipping whereas I can go to walmart and buy a 24 pack of bottled water for about $5. Everything else they sell is ridiculously expensive too and not worth buying.
@marcallard510 ... NOPE. Not a pyramid. In what Pyramid does someone below the guy at the top make MORE MONEY than the guy at the top. Social Security is a pyramid. People coming on after the first person are paying for the first person. A company you work for is a pyramid. What employee makes MORE THAN THE CEO? None. You don't understand this and the narrator of this video does not either. TOTALLY OUT TO LUNCH. She just cost a lot of people their chance at an opportunity to raise their income, because she "EXPLAINED" it all.
Ja ,und heute bewundert Millionen Menschen weltweit!! was ein Weltwunder astronomisch und heute in der modernen Welt nicht möglich nachzubauen , denk mal drüber nach was ein Meisterwerk!! Und sklaven konnten es niemals bauen ,what a Dream Team
lol this doesnt explain anything. just how the numbers work. mlms aren’t the issue. leadership and how people scale their business is whats lacking in a networking model. amway is genius. the fact that this girl said its not for me, is an employee mindset and statement . all business owners need to scale, plain and simple. how you scale and the integrity of it, is the issue. owners scale with employees and buildings and products and services. amway allows you to leverage their compensation plan and collaborate with other entrepreneurs. but most people build it like a “mlm” or a pyramid structure business which i reality is your job. you work a job. your marketing, or recruiting, or helping them create dollars . lol. the guy at the top makes the most money in a job. here, you can out perform the person above you, below you, near you, thats called performance base opportunity. either way, dont get into business if you don’t believe in the free enterprise system of creating income and adding value to the market. i run many businesses and amway is a company i leverage but i partner with a leadership system called world wide group in north america but they are world wide now. my experience isnt most peoples experience because most people shouldnt be in business for themselves. employees are the ones putting a bad name in all of business. oh and ive been to every meeting there is possible from real estate to insurance to networking opportunities like amway. amway is just a product based distribution. they dont teach how to run the business. focus on the people who are helping you run the business. thats what makes the difference. if im trying to be a professional basketball player. its going to help the NBA. anything else isnt in the same conversation. thats what most people run into. hope this helps and you shouldn’t convince people to be in business nor should you “get” people into business to benefit you. thats what owners do in the pyramid structure business do. they hire people to help build their dreams and their futures. plain and simple. job people will only see what they see as a benefit. business people see what they see and that’s opportunity
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is ONLY based on a TEAM purchasing there OWN PRODUCTS. Not including customers who purchase products that are not IBO? Also, the top person technically makes more but if you are a better salesman and beat/sold more than your sponsor the difference would be small to none right? That's how you make more than them? It's just marketing! If you are able to gain traffic to your business than you should be good! Let me know what you think? Love to hear other people's perspectives!
i did couple of days ago, just did like 5hrs of my own its not worth ur time or energy, only 9% channce of u making any real money and u wont be able to step away because u cant afford to loose ppl. so constantly have to be doing this just like another job... look up the stats on this, its not wat they tell u, just feels like they sell you a dream that u want and % is just so low u have to almost get lucky but over years and years of constant work, when u could just own your own thing and u dont have to have a dice roll.. way see it, seems way to good to be tru then look at it and go...oh that makes sense now. the turn over rate is crazy aswell, speaks to it. just way more legit things out there then this. i am gonn keep looking instead sady shit
If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. But don’t spread misinformation just because you don’t want to/don’t understand how it works. Scams don’t last 60+ years, just rumors from quitters who couldn’t/didn’t try to make it work for them.
@@drshortstuff4824 Be wise. Don't talk about what you don't know or understand. If you want to know what is a Pyramid scheme, take a look at your JOB. It's impossible to pass your patron.
This is not the complete Amway compensation model. You did not even account for profits made from selling products which should be your sole purpose of buying products in the first place. Consumption should only be done for testimonial purposes, and to give out free samples. You are looking at the compensation plan from the standpoint of a customer which is what most amateurs do when joining the opportunity. So it makes sense that Amway is not the right opportunity for you because it is a business, not a get rich quick scheme.
Thank you for being a professional and discussing the major component when doing due diligence and breaking down the comp plan. Millions of people struggle to grasp that this is the only deciding factor to determine whether or not you should decide to embark on a entrepreneurial journey. Even in traditional business you wouldn’t borrow a million dollars without knowing how you will pay back the loan. Network marketing is the only industry where that goes out of the window and in true fashion since it’s regular people who are being propositioned with no business background whatsoever. This compensation plan is flawed. 30yrs ago a high net earner realized and took the best part of the plan and removed all of its flaws to create over a 104 consecutive quarters of upward growth even during the recessions. How? Because understanding the business model first and how it functions for the average person will determine the success of a business.
You're not including Customer volume that would be part of the $800. With 4 customer @$100 leaves you with $400 a month that includes cost of samples so that you can service your customers.
Before joining Amway please research videos that are against joining Amway. You deserve to make an informed decision, just take the time to do so. People making anti MLM videos have NOTHING to gain from trying to stop people from losing money. The only way you win in an MLM is scamming others, the people at the bottom of the pyramid lose money and you will run out of clients to sell too.
what you said is pure bullshit. The Networking marketing industry is over $350 billion worldwide. If it was a pyramid and scam Warren Buffet would NOT be owning 4 of them. They also have to adhere to strict guidelines in each of the 50 states if an AG finds it is a pyramid they are shut down....There are many legitimate solid companies in the Network marketing space that are NOT pyramids. Educate yourself before making statements that make you look like a fool. I am not in Amway but in no way is it a scam. By the way we are world of 7 billion people one never runs out of clients to sell too.
@@jonnelson1481 Clearly you've made all these statements on so many assumptions. 1. The valuation of these companies don't mean SHIT they can be worth BILLIONS but who actually owns the money? The people at the top. 2. You mentioned there are strict guidelines which makes it legit, and the fact that they sell legit products makes them able to conduct business. Again you assumed that there are regulations but they dont mean shit when the business is conducted exactly like a pyramid scheme. Money going to the top. 3. You made the assumption that you can sell to 7 billion people, nope, you cant sell to every single person( including yourself) a crappy product. So you CAN (and will) run out of clients. But lets make an assumption you can sell to/recruit 7 billion people, by recruiting 5 people each time it only takes 15 cycles of recruiting to exceed the world population (do the math). So yes, even if you sold or tried to recruit 7 billion people thats merely not enough. So what you've said is nothing short of bullshit.
@@jonnelson1481 you do know that such companies exist because of a loophole. They “sell” something thus they’re legal. If you’re in one of those “businesses” I hope you leave. Because some people are truly brainwashed and lose all there life investments and many people do as you did and defend these MLM’s because they can’t face reality.
Let's do some math and real analysis. Back when I saw this business for the first time in 1996, Amway generated close to 7 billion in sales. 25 years later, they're not generating a lot more volume. How does a business model that is predicated on signficant exponential growth before good money is made for new distributors work well if the main corporation has not even grown at the rate of inflation over 25 years? Is the corporation not positive enough? Not working hard enough? Why do they tell new people with little in the way of resources to remain positive and achieve results that people with power and money cannot?
The biggest issue it seems with this model is not the products it’s retaining the actual people to stay in you line and to also keep the people in their line. Generally if you has 3-4 people in your down line with their own 3-4 people in their own business then it starts to earn but considering most people get fed up with the model and retaining their lines. If you had one of your line leave with 5 people in their own down line that’s people you need to recruit back not easy considering how much effort and time you may have put in to get to that position
Yes you have a good point here. People are well, people, and probably will change products they buy to try other ones or cheaper/better value alternatives to suit their needs etc. Once you recruit someone, their position certainly isn’t guaranteed. Thanks for your comment :)
@@EliseHewlett Considering nobody is actually paid, aka a wage as such, and the addition costs of apps registration, running around its difficult. However I have seen a lot of new people actually do it from a web page and not run around, use Zoom, and treat it like a shop, not a recruitment drive.
That's business. Customer retention is an ever going process. Well established Companies like Coca Cola still pay billions in marketing and advertising to stay relevant. Companies come and go because of a loss of relevancy. Even social media influencers and celebrities lose relevancy. Amway tries to make things as cookie cutter as it gets to streamline a process that most people with the right mindset can follow. Mcdonalds has franchises and franchises can still go out of business. Building a business at the start takes a lot of effort. Maintaining the business doesn't take as much effort to get it rolling, but there is still abit of effort involved to keep it rolling.
Your numbers are off. 1st you don't need to buy $800 worth. You can buy whatever you want. The percentages changes and it gives differential to you and everybody else. And you only need 3 to 6 people for higher qualifications. But like in life business are not for everybody and people have their own choices.
This system is not sustainable I was a platinum in the US for 9 months and was in the business for 6 years. It's absolutely the WORST business idea to make money. Lost at least $30,000 USD and 6 years of effort. During covid I started my own company in my own field and now I am making "Diamond" income lol I know you don't know me but TRUST ME you are better off starting ANY business (that's not an MLM) and failing till you get it right than this nonsense.
It sort of depends upon how you're marketing it. If it's sold to you as a discount program for bringing in new customers, then it's fine. (My grocery delivery service for instance, will give me a $10 coupon if I refer another customer.) It really only becomes a pyramid scheme when they start telling you (sometimes explicitly, sometimes implicitly) that it's a way to make money.
2 separate terms for 2 separate definitions huge difference google definition pretty much shows that yes they may be similar but have a key difference.
Do you know what the FTC considers an illegal pyramid and shuts it down? Amway is not an illegal pyramid. 60 years and in 100 countries, it’s still strong.
Listen if you simply bought $800.00 worth of profit and flipped it you would get $1,600 dollars. Repeat Repeat Repeat. Don’t use the damn product the first 6 months . Just sell and double and grow your clients. You could easily get 50K in Revenue . This would mean your BV and PV is sky high.
I can understand people calling for this crap before the internet and TH-cam but now you have no excuse. You can make more money working a minimum wage job that you will ever do with this crap.
Your numbers are way off though lol and you dont get paid a percentage from what the downline makes, lol. Otherwise that would definitely be a ripoff, and noone would have any downline ever .. Also the compensation is ALOT higher, thats why youll see lawyers, doctors, dentists, people in real estate careers etc switch over to build the business as well. It just makes sense once you see the real numbers and real compensation plan. From what Ive seen, a business only needs 3 partnerships to make $100,000 yearly, as long as you keep those 3 then you get paid for life, then you get to decide if you want to keep your job or not.. more choices open up. Now just add on waaaaay more money the more people you add on. If you had a 50 person business, you could very much be a millionaire a few times over. But like anything in this world, if we dont try it, how the hell would we know? Lol
It's a completely different concept if you consider it a retail business. In that you sell $800 of product to customers per month. Figures are all different. Running a business is not about buying stock and keeping it yourself. It's about buying stock and selling to customers. Small business is about selling, not buying. Buying and keeping is not a business. Retail is business. Learn to sell and then teach others how to sell.
Unfortunately not all that are recruited are learning to sell. Setting the expectations of what that looks like upfront is necessary to challenge that individuals decision to make an educated choice. “This is what it would look like if you don’t sell”
Even if you sell, your only getting about 3% to 20% which means you have to sell about 10,000 per month to make a living. Not a very good incentive for the new guy at the bottom of the pyramid. That is where the real problem is.
@@jvaldez1896 you are building a business, not working a job. So it will be difficult at the beginning when you only have yourself. But the best thing from Amway is you will get educated of how to retail, how to build your team, finding people and training them to build their own business as well. It’s a duplicable business and when you get it done once, you done it for your whole life, and even pass it down to your next generation. You don’t need to make $10,000 revenue by your own (you could, but not necessary). Once you have your team, your PV will add up and your incentive will increase. Amway has updated more incentive so you can earn more money lately. Work hard and smart
@@vuthien8889 like you said "once you build your team" the problem is that in network marketing most people don't build their team for years. So the business here is basically building the team not selling the product. And that's fine I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But there are other MlM companies that pay you enough commissions to make a living on the products until you can build that team.
@@jvaldez1896 you can sell the products to make extra money on the side, of course if you go this way you will have to retail in order to make money. But if you want to build a foundation to your future so you can get off the path of trading time for money, you can build your team. It’s just like how other business owner have hundreds of people as their employees, and the employees work for them. If you choose to not having a team, you are just like a self-employee, people who own small business with not many people in their team or employees will have to work hard everyday to maintain their small business. Duplication is the key in every successful business, you cannot work for your whole life, then why not teach other how to do it and you get some % back as a return when they can run on their own? This is basically how franchise business work as well.
What if every person in Utah gave me a dollar? I would be a millionaire. Yes I would love to enter Amway and have 100 people spend 400 dollars in Amway Products so I can get a 50k salary out of that. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The only anyone need to know about Amway and any MLM aka to run as fast as you can. If your main goal is to sign up other members and go to pep rallies and listen to motivational tapes on how rich your going to be RUN!
What you have is valuable. You don’t have to take my advice, but I’d say you should be the seller and not the buyer. The key to the compensation plan is filling it with people who have been run through a filter to insure they’re people who recognize, and value the opportunity. Many won’t. You only need a few who do. Let this information you know very well get filtered into the motivated, hungry individuals who deserve it. Go diamond 💎
Oh god. This is awful 😂 $72 for a sales team to sell 1000 ‘pv’ which is probably just 1000 products that need to be sold. At the low end you’re getting less than a quarter a sale. Wtf😂😂😂
You did a great job explaining how ludicrous and insane the Amway concept is. Not sure how anyone would spend even $50 a month on cleaning products! Or even spend that each month as a large container of laundry detergent lasts more than a month as does dish washing liquid and bathroom cleaner. Each of those last about 2 months - I have a large home. For all of the above I would spend about $25!!! And not per month! How could anyone even afford to spend $800 per month of cleaning products???? You have to be a moron to sign up for this or be blinded by greed and gullibility to be fooled by the mentor explaining all this for you!
Its way to much info for these dont undestand... this info dont fit in their brain! The easiest way to make them feel "good" and secure, oh I hate MLM blaba..😂 ohh its a Pyramid Bla bla! Oh this and that.... so smart they think they are, that they lose more than what make😂😂😂😂
Currently open to as many avenues. Interested in affiliate marketing. However I believe the skills learned in affiliate marketing could very well be used to grow a network marketing business. In regards to product sales.
It's very rare to have more than a few front-line people in your downline, it's much more common to grow the business with your handful of downline have their own downlines. It's not as profitable but it is much more achievable. Also, if you calculate the payout from the bottom up, the calculations are a bit easier. However, what you described is the gross profit, the thousands of dollars/year of overhead costs mean most people will be losing money at any given time, most people quit within a year or so and need to be replaced just to stay at the same level. It's a lot of work to keep a scam operating.
I see a few people commenting: "why would you discourage other potentional business ownerss!!!!" and I'm like "... you want MORE competition for the same overpriced products???"
I like how well you broke down the math. However, your are absolutely wrong when you say that each independent owner has to pay $800 a month on amway products. You are selling products to people, you don't have to spend your own money on the products if you don't want to.
The VAST majority of distributors have no real idea of what 7500 PV (direct) is. It’s about $50,000 (BV) per month? Building this is beating a dead horse. Market/local saturation occurred decades ago, and absolutely will block you from sponsoring in any meaningful way.
Prsonnaly i don't think that i can make finanbcial freedom with this plan , it is like a monthly subscription , i don't know if i may be wrong and misunderstood the plan or i have to purchase products just so i can keep working thank god i am working where the plan is more simple and rentable and i don't have to purchase a product only once.
You can buy comparable products of same or even higher quality than Amway products for much cheaper at Walmart, discount stores, Amazon and save hundreds of dollars. So instead of spending $800 to make $72 and hoping the people you recruited are also spending a lot on Amway you can simply buy comparable products and save $300. If you buy Amway products to sell it's a tough sell because you can get similar products at Walmart for a lot cheaper. Your cost for the Amway product plus your up-sell cost to make a profit makes those products very expensive. No need to screw over your friends and family to make a buck.
I agree!!!! When looking at what other products are available on the market it’s hard to justify choosing the products offered by Amway, in my opinion.
In 2021, 33% of all U.S. registered IBOs had no reported sales, did not sponsor another IBO, and did not earn any compensation from Amway; 62% of all U.S. registered IBOs in 2021 received a payment from Amway in at least one month for sales that occurred during 2021. Of the IBOs who received a payment from Amway in one or more months here is what they annually earned before expenses: The Top 1% earned $87,901 (average) and $55,264 (median) The Top 10% earned $14,537 (average) and $4,645 (median) The Top 50% earned $3,414 (average) and $631 (median) That’s straight from the Amway website.
Depending on where you're at in the process of building your business, whether its Amway or not, those numbers can actually be quite significant when you factor how passive the income is being generated. Before starting any business, one must be deprogrammed from the worker mindset. The financial problems that alot of people face tend to be a lack of financial literacy and proper skills to flourish in a capitalist society. Don't forget that Amazon operated at a loss for years and many other companies have. Perseverance always prevails.
@Eliza D lemme guess... you also believe web3 business model is a scam? MLM is a business model that people tend to relate to scam. I'm not blinded by anything. Life is a game. Figure out the rules and win. Call it what you want. I don't think its a scam. In fact, create your own white label product and compete with Amway. Maybe you'll get better results than what you've posted. Maybe you won't. 😉 The fact that you've posted those numbers as if it was a "gotcha" moment speaks a little bit about yourself.
@@Happy-go-luckyTV listen buddy just go on build your little business and stop @ me Idc I know this is scam!!!!! And it’s not about the “products” like they can have the best f ing product in the world and still operate as a unethical business model. Don’t bring up products this is about the products. It’s about recruiting people.
How is it a Pyramid scheme if everyone has the same opportunity as the guy at the top? It’s a top down model but every business has that top down concept. It’s a level plain filed, based off of performance. Is your job base off of performance or position?!!!! Maybe you should take a look at your 9-5 job where MR CEO at the top makes all the money while you make bucket change, now that’s a brilliant pyramid scheme. Get educated people!!!
I lost over $4,000 in Amway, I would stay away from this MLM business model. I left over 4 months ago, and my upline still messages me like a crazy ex. I realized I was brainwashed to think positivity, positivity, positivity, but that’s only so you can stay and keep making your upline money. If you’re new, stay away from MLM’s
Wow, I am sorry to hear that John! At least it wasn't more I suppose? That's not much consolation, I know, it hurts not only how much money but also time and effort people are putting into it... and for what :S
I am from India. Studied only 8th grade Joined Amway in 2017 with my wife after our marraige Now we are Sapphire in Amway. Reunderstand this beautifull amway biz and grow in life. Or you must be made for some other INDUSTRY. which is 100% great.
My problem with Amway is how they pressured you to buy the books, tapes and go to all the rallies. This is how much of the upline makes money by getting a cut of that business. If they instead would help everyone get on auto-ship for the actual products that they would use like cleaning supplies and personal care people would not drop out at such a high rate.
To be fair, a pyramid scheme does not involve any actual service or product, and amway has a wide variety of products. Also, a pyramid scheme is a get-rich-quick scheme usually, and that is not the case in amway. In amway, you still need to work very hard to build a solid business and find the right people to work with (which takes months or years depending on the person). In addition, in amway you can make more income than the person above you if you have a better business structure. In a pyramid scheme, the person above always makes more money. also amway has been around for about 60 years, if it were truly an illegal pyramid scheme I don't think it would still be around or so successful. I've been to amway events my whole life and seen my parents do it my whole life as well. I am familiar with the products and how the business works. The problem with amway is the people that do not understand how to explain it correctly or give off wrong impressions. my dad went from working in construction to never having to work again thanks to the work he has put into amway. I understand why people might think it is sketchy or a pyramid scheme, but that is not the case.
@Elise: you do not have understood the business! Since Amway has been in business for more than 60 years, there are a lot of successful people you can learn from. Get precise information before confusing people with such a video! Thx
Hi Elise. I know this is an old video and you don't put up many but your viewership is relatively low. Just by making this video 119k ppl watched it. That shows interest which could easily create 75 ppl under your management. Just a different perspective
@ReubenDouds_RealEstate maybe not but if it received 1000 views it shows interest at a minimum. It says re in your name: if 1000 people watched a video you made about a property you have that would show significant interest and the potential to sell is even higher than normal. Everything in sales is a numbers game and presentation. More people see what you are selling is interest and you don't need 119k you are asking for a small percentage of that
You might want to edit "a simplified manor" to read "a simplified manner." If memory serves, a manor is a piece of real estate whereas "manner" is the intended descriptor.
You explained it so very well. one thing I've learn is that numbers can not lie, and you are right it is a type of mind set you need to have and also information if one is gonna step in this type of marketing. The way I understood it with the mindset I have is that I can make those $400 that I would have spend anyways, make me $5400 every month if I can help other people do the same and understand what I understood or I guess in the way that I understood it. Cause if only people would have understood it a couple years ago, maybe people would have been better off financially when this pandemic hit. I most definitely agree with you, I my self definitely don't spend $800 in products that's a lot and with everyone losing their jobs and being on unemployment, I don't think people would be able to even afford that right now. Thank you so much for this video.
Elise Hawlett not giving the right facts...Surely 3 million Amway Business Owners around the world are not stupid...I suggest learn from the right people...I have been 37nyears in Amway, It is the best compensation plan ever.....your downline can supersede you if he works harder.....you are rewarded according to your effort...find out from the right people, Amway already 62 years , a company with no debts...
@@annaleong4705 yeah, at the expense of preying on your friends and family. the condescending "know it all" attitude of every single person that vouches for or represents amway makes me believe the culture of the company is actually disgusting and toxic
You “can” make 5400 dollars, but that is extremely rare. Even if you work you’re ass off, it is extremely difficult to recruit people to a pyramid scheme. There also isn’t much of a market for their product. Most people are more comfortable with buying from Amazon or the store down the road.
@@annaleong4705 you are really deep into this I truly hope you soon realize the way you’ve been scammed and the way you’ve scammed others. A lot of people who defend anyway And other MLM’s are those who’ve invested everything thus are afraid of realizing that they’re not actually getting what promised.
I made it to 15% in 1994 and the money was pretty good. I developed a ton of self--confidence from the self-development system and I have no regrets whatsoever, because I replaced a crappy government job on 18k a year, with a 40k teaching career. However, this 'new' plan is terrible because during my time, I would receive a percentage of the entire group - and not just a percentage of my own spending. So whereas Bill gets 9% back from his own spending, I would get 9% of the entire group PV. Not only that, it appears that distributors pay a single cost for products and are expected to sell them at that same 'retail' price! I was able to purchase my products at wholesale and sell them at a 30% mark-up for retail. It seems to me that the business model has changed dramatically - so as to benefit the corporation and not the distributors. The products are superb and I would still order them today, except that I don't want some crazy-positive distributor dropping in for a three hour coffee.
@@Whydoyoubanothers Hi Scott, all I know was that our UK group existed under the umbrella of International Business Systems (IBS) and our line of sponsorship was - Scriven, B O'Brien, JP Harteis, F Harteis, Dexter Yager - or something like that. Personally, the tools cost me roughly £40 per month (for one tape of the week, one 'red' leadership tape and one book of the month), while income fluctuated from £300 to £500 per month. But for me, the most important item was the self development of myself. However, the first year was mostly money going out and I reckon to have paid £500 for functions and tools during that first year. Hope that helps.
did you keep going or did you stop? if you stopped, why did you, if your money was "pretty good" and you improved your self image? I'm just interested because im new to amway. Thank you.
You mentioned nothing on mentorship? We spend roughly 13 - 15 years of school to be employee minded.........So when a business model and mindset is being presented to you or only 11 minutes, the brain goes.... "Errrrr ERROR. Pyramid scheme, I don't like this!! passive income make brain go brrrrrrrrr
This is a pretty good rudimentary explanation, however, keep in mind you're completely leaving out all the bonuses incentives AND most importantly, retail profit. This is not a business without retail sales, so that "$800" will actually be majority sales to retail clients, not just personal use. You'd actually make more than this example shows because of the 10% retail margin. 😊
I'm about to start this, I'll give it a year and Not going to Every week meeting 8pm to 11pm. Meeting every bloody week is crazy, almost cultist in my opinion.
If you don't associate regularly with like minded people, stay around your broke friends and treat it like a hobby, you will never succeed. Shouldn't have started in the first place.
Awwww No Doubt the model she is explaining is correct. But the fact that has been mentioned is not even 20% of what you get out of the Business plus she never started the Business. Let's suppose you only spend $100 a month from Woolworths what do you get at the end? $10 for $2000 spent which you'll follow your entire life. This business comes with an opportunity cost not only in terms of Tangible Assets but mostly the Intangible Growth that is priceless, a better Health and a Beautiful Skin. You didn't even mention the Rewards that one could get 😂 Know your facts from a Winner 😊
Honestly, I developed a much better system. This system is ok, but it has massive problems. My biggest issue, is that the products are very mediocre. If I believed in the products, I could actually do very well selling them. There would be no shame in it. They have a few good products, but a few won't cut it. The whole system must be good. Because nobody gonna make money by buying 1-3 products they like. Anyway. I would be on board with something like this if for example the philosophy behind all of the products was ultra healthy, non toxic, organic, non gmo. Otherwise, there are plenty of other products out there that are better.
So were u an IBO? If thats the way u show the plan guessing and no structure or personal experience and mentorship you aint going anywhere. U left a lot of things out of the equation. I don’t spend $800. I have ladies that r 60 yrs old, can’t drive and speak English making it. All ages, all people can make this work with the proper training!
97% of people lose money, that's all you need to know.
How can you lose money ?
Yes that absolutely truth however it’s not because of the plan but because ppl are genuinely stupid AF
@@pablopena2186you got to buy first then you get 3% back
You lost me at they spend $800 themselves
Lol you should have watched the whole video.
Yes it real I live in HAÏTI
They’re not overspending, their redirecting where they spend the money. People spend most of the check at Walmart and target for consumable goods, why not just run that through your business and get money back?!? Build an asset for yourself and not a corporation. That’s an E quadrant mindset you have.
Use to be $200 spent per month per household.
@@christophershaw5900 False. The products Amway sells are way over priced. A 24 pack of their water costs about $46 plus shipping whereas I can go to walmart and buy a 24 pack of bottled water for about $5. Everything else they sell is ridiculously expensive too and not worth buying.
The old Egyptian would be proud of the business structure!!!
@marcallard510 ... NOPE. Not a pyramid. In what Pyramid does someone below the guy at the top make MORE MONEY than the guy at the top. Social Security is a pyramid. People coming on after the first person are paying for the first person. A company you work for is a pyramid. What employee makes MORE THAN THE CEO? None. You don't understand this and the narrator of this video does not either. TOTALLY OUT TO LUNCH. She just cost a lot of people their chance at an opportunity to raise their income, because she "EXPLAINED" it all.
Ja ,und heute bewundert Millionen Menschen weltweit!! was ein Weltwunder astronomisch und heute in der modernen Welt nicht möglich nachzubauen , denk mal drüber nach was ein Meisterwerk!! Und sklaven konnten es niemals bauen ,what a Dream Team
Gizeh phyramids ,was ein Meisterwerk, und heute reden sie noch immer davon !! Dream Team Building
@@ctaylor5682 ich bin ein Amway IBO ☺️
Super helpful and clear in explaining the model. Just what I was looking for, for real. Thank you. I hate MLM's. :)
lol this doesnt explain anything. just how the numbers work. mlms aren’t the issue. leadership and how people scale their business is whats lacking in a networking model. amway is genius. the fact that this girl said its not for me, is an employee mindset and statement . all business owners need to scale, plain and simple. how you scale and the integrity of it, is the issue. owners scale with employees and buildings and products and services. amway allows you to leverage their compensation plan and collaborate with other entrepreneurs. but most people build it like a “mlm” or a pyramid structure business which i reality is your job. you work a job. your marketing, or recruiting, or helping them create dollars . lol. the guy at the top makes the most money in a job. here, you can out perform the person above you, below you, near you, thats called performance base opportunity. either way, dont get into business if you don’t believe in the free enterprise system of creating income and adding value to the market. i run many businesses and amway is a company i leverage but i partner with a leadership system called world wide group in north america but they are world wide now. my experience isnt most peoples experience because most people shouldnt be in business for themselves. employees are the ones putting a bad name in all of business.
oh and ive been to every meeting there is possible from real estate to insurance to networking opportunities like amway. amway is just a product based distribution. they dont teach how to run the business. focus on the people who are helping you run the business. thats what makes the difference. if im trying to be a professional basketball player. its going to help the NBA. anything else isnt in the same conversation. thats what most people run into. hope this helps and you shouldn’t convince people to be in business nor should you “get” people into business to benefit you. thats what owners do in the pyramid structure business do. they hire people to help build their dreams and their futures. plain and simple. job people will only see what they see as a benefit. business people see what they see and that’s opportunity
It's because you have not yet understood the business model.
Don’t hate it, just say I’ll pass 🤷🏻♂️ I have friends who have dad great success with it. Best wishes in your business endeavors 🙏🏼
Great explanation 😊 I enjoyed it.
It is a proofed system over many, many years! Many people are very successful, so there is no discussion about it.
I learned I don’t like Amway and fell in love in 11 minutes. Her mannerisms are adorable.
@sandponics I actually wanted to hear Amway was not multi-level marketing and that I should sign on.
@sandponics Hun it's an MLM. Most people lose money in these.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is ONLY based on a TEAM purchasing there OWN PRODUCTS. Not including customers who purchase products that are not IBO? Also, the top person technically makes more but if you are a better salesman and beat/sold more than your sponsor the difference would be small to none right? That's how you make more than them? It's just marketing! If you are able to gain traffic to your business than you should be good! Let me know what you think? Love to hear other people's perspectives!
It also doesn't take into consideration people leaving the team. Or taxes. I assume this income is taxed somehow.
@@ajmveliclerepairdiy3107 yup and like 98% of people drip off or something like that IBO's
Wait. So you only make money if you spend money? Ew. What if you don't have money to spend on this stuff?
I attended a session today and was really still confused on what’s the ask. But your explanation really helped understand that.
i did couple of days ago, just did like 5hrs of my own its not worth ur time or energy, only 9% channce of u making any real money and u wont be able to step away because u cant afford to loose ppl. so constantly have to be doing this just like another job... look up the stats on this, its not wat they tell u, just feels like they sell you a dream that u want and % is just so low u have to almost get lucky but over years and years of constant work, when u could just own your own thing and u dont have to have a dice roll.. way see it, seems way to good to be tru then look at it and go...oh that makes sense now. the turn over rate is crazy aswell, speaks to it. just way more legit things out there then this. i am gonn keep looking instead sady shit
@@jesuscanjesuscan423 I 2nd what ur saying. its true
@@jesuscanjesuscan4239% is a stretch. 99% of people lose money.
Tell the truth you joined Scamway 8 months ago. How is it going?
If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. But don’t spread misinformation just because you don’t want to/don’t understand how it works.
Scams don’t last 60+ years, just rumors from quitters who couldn’t/didn’t try to make it work for them.
Mlm. Pyramid scheme. Lol
@@drshortstuff4824 Be wise. Don't talk about what you don't know or understand. If you want to know what is a Pyramid scheme, take a look at your JOB. It's impossible to pass your patron.
Do you really spend $800 on products monthly?
@@tvision6954 SPEND ON HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT !
It's a pyramid scheme. Your lying only strengthens the stereotype.
This is not the complete Amway compensation model. You did not even account for profits made from selling products which should be your sole purpose of buying products in the first place. Consumption should only be done for testimonial purposes, and to give out free samples. You are looking at the compensation plan from the standpoint of a customer which is what most amateurs do when joining the opportunity. So it makes sense that Amway is not the right opportunity for you because it is a business, not a get rich quick scheme.
That sure looks a lot like a pyramid lol
Sure seems like every time you spend a dollar your getting taxed.
Thank you for being a professional and discussing the major component when doing due diligence and breaking down the comp plan. Millions of people struggle to grasp that this is the only deciding factor to determine whether or not you should decide to embark on a entrepreneurial journey. Even in traditional business you wouldn’t borrow a million dollars without knowing how you will pay back the loan. Network marketing is the only industry where that goes out of the window and in true fashion since it’s regular people who are being propositioned with no business background whatsoever. This compensation plan is flawed. 30yrs ago a high net earner realized and took the best part of the plan and removed all of its flaws to create over a 104 consecutive quarters of upward growth even during the recessions. How? Because understanding the business model first and how it functions for the average person will determine the success of a business.
Best comment here!!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼
Who is the high net earner
Thank you for explaining the compensation plan it helped a lot for me to understand.
It is a scam
Define Scam @@xSuperFryx
Its never a scam when you recieve 76% value in products eventhough, i still will NEVER exchange the compensation plan of Atomy.
You're not including Customer volume that would be part of the $800. With 4 customer @$100 leaves you with $400 a month that includes cost of samples so that you can service your customers.
The minimum legal amount required of customer volume per month per IBO is only 50 pv, which a lot of IBOs do since they’re mostly prosumers
It's been 3 months since your comment, are you still in the business? Any change of thought?
Lol try opening up a McDonald’s and see how much you spend a month
Thank you lol
@CarFreak do u have $5 million to open a mcds???? Even then nothing can guarantee u’ll make it,
Before joining Amway please research videos that are against joining Amway. You deserve to make an informed decision, just take the time to do so. People making anti MLM videos have NOTHING to gain from trying to stop people from losing money. The only way you win in an MLM is scamming others, the people at the bottom of the pyramid lose money and you will run out of clients to sell too.
what you said is pure bullshit. The Networking marketing industry is over $350 billion worldwide. If it was a pyramid and scam Warren Buffet would NOT be owning 4 of them. They also have to adhere to strict guidelines in each of the 50 states if an AG finds it is a pyramid they are shut down....There are many legitimate solid companies in the Network marketing space that are NOT pyramids. Educate yourself before making statements that make you look like a fool. I am not in Amway but in no way is it a scam. By the way we are world of 7 billion people one never runs out of clients to sell too.
@@jonnelson1481 Clearly you've made all these statements on so many assumptions.
1. The valuation of these companies don't mean SHIT they can be worth BILLIONS but who actually owns the money? The people at the top.
2. You mentioned there are strict guidelines which makes it legit, and the fact that they sell legit products makes them able to conduct business. Again you assumed that there are regulations but they dont mean shit when the business is conducted exactly like a pyramid scheme. Money going to the top.
3. You made the assumption that you can sell to 7 billion people, nope, you cant sell to every single person( including yourself) a crappy product. So you CAN (and will) run out of clients.
But lets make an assumption you can sell to/recruit 7 billion people, by recruiting 5 people each time it only takes 15 cycles of recruiting to exceed the world population (do the math). So yes, even if you sold or tried to recruit 7 billion people thats merely not enough.
So what you've said is nothing short of bullshit.
@@jonnelson1481 you do know that such companies exist because of a loophole. They “sell” something thus they’re legal. If you’re in one of those “businesses” I hope you leave. Because some people are truly brainwashed and lose all there life investments and many people do as you did and defend these MLM’s because they can’t face reality.
@@skybu11et spot on
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U have buying (spending)mind set not business mind set.. U know Wats the answer for business.. Get tat definition of it
Let's do some math and real analysis. Back when I saw this business for the first time in 1996, Amway generated close to 7 billion in sales. 25 years later, they're not generating a lot more volume. How does a business model that is predicated on signficant exponential growth before good money is made for new distributors work well if the main corporation has not even grown at the rate of inflation over 25 years? Is the corporation not positive enough? Not working hard enough? Why do they tell new people with little in the way of resources to remain positive and achieve results that people with power and money cannot?
google top 100 direct selling companies in the world...Amway still remain Top of the list
@@annaleong4705 based on volume established nearly 25 years ago with a business model that only works for distributors when there's consistent growth.
Amway's volume has decreased every single year since 2013 when inflation is factored in. Amway is a total scam.
Exactly!
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The biggest issue it seems with this model is not the products it’s retaining the actual people to stay in you line and to also keep the people in their line. Generally if you has 3-4 people in your down line with their own 3-4 people in their own business then it starts to earn but considering most people get fed up with the model and retaining their lines. If you had one of your line leave with 5 people in their own down line that’s people you need to recruit back not easy considering how much effort and time you may have put in to get to that position
Yes you have a good point here. People are well, people, and probably will change products they buy to try other ones or cheaper/better value alternatives to suit their needs etc. Once you recruit someone, their position certainly isn’t guaranteed. Thanks for your comment :)
@@EliseHewlett Considering nobody is actually paid, aka a wage as such, and the addition costs of apps registration, running around its difficult. However I have seen a lot of new people actually do it from a web page and not run around, use Zoom, and treat it like a shop, not a recruitment drive.
Bingo! It's a scam.
That's business. Customer retention is an ever going process. Well established Companies like Coca Cola still pay billions in marketing and advertising to stay relevant. Companies come and go because of a loss of relevancy. Even social media influencers and celebrities lose relevancy.
Amway tries to make things as cookie cutter as it gets to streamline a process that most people with the right mindset can follow.
Mcdonalds has franchises and franchises can still go out of business.
Building a business at the start takes a lot of effort. Maintaining the business doesn't take as much effort to get it rolling, but there is still abit of effort involved to keep it rolling.
@sandponics so, it's a scam. Thanks for confirming
Your numbers are off.
1st you don't need to buy $800 worth. You can buy whatever you want.
The percentages changes and it gives differential to you and everybody else.
And you only need 3 to 6 people for higher qualifications.
But like in life business are not for everybody and people have their own choices.
This system is not sustainable I was a platinum in the US for 9 months and was in the business for 6 years. It's absolutely the WORST business idea to make money. Lost at least $30,000 USD and 6 years of effort. During covid I started my own company in my own field and now I am making "Diamond" income lol I know you don't know me but TRUST ME you are better off starting ANY business (that's not an MLM) and failing till you get it right than this nonsense.
Thank you for sharing your experience! I love that you are doing so well now, even despite the financial set back from the MLM… well done!!
Thank you for saving me from a big waste of time and money!
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So what I learned is that MLM is a fancy way of saying pyramid scheme?
It sort of depends upon how you're marketing it. If it's sold to you as a discount program for bringing in new customers, then it's fine. (My grocery delivery service for instance, will give me a $10 coupon if I refer another customer.) It really only becomes a pyramid scheme when they start telling you (sometimes explicitly, sometimes implicitly) that it's a way to make money.
2 separate terms for 2 separate definitions huge difference google definition pretty much shows that yes they may be similar but have a key difference.
Do you know what the FTC considers an illegal pyramid and shuts it down? Amway is not an illegal pyramid. 60 years and in 100 countries, it’s still strong.
Mlm is just a pyramid scheme that finds a loophole with terrible products to make it legal
Isn't everything a pyramid scheme? I mean the guy on top is always making the most.
Thanks! If only the amway people could go over this as soon as they talk to you, that would be great
They don't because it's a pyramid scam
wait I’m confused? So if Bill don’t have any partnership but he buys amway products! How much will he get back since he only wasted 800?
200pv is 3% of 800$ so thats 24$
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Listen if you simply bought $800.00 worth of profit and flipped it you would get $1,600 dollars. Repeat Repeat Repeat. Don’t use the damn product the first 6 months . Just sell and double and grow your clients. You could easily get 50K in Revenue . This would mean your BV and PV is sky high.
#Thanks
The marker screeching just killed my brain cells 😭
Lol whoops sorry 😂😂
lmao what a scam
Who's gonna tell her she drew a pyramid?
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I can understand people calling for this crap before the internet and TH-cam but now you have no excuse. You can make more money working a minimum wage job that you will ever do with this crap.
Your numbers are way off though lol and you dont get paid a percentage from what the downline makes, lol. Otherwise that would definitely be a ripoff, and noone would have any downline ever .. Also the compensation is ALOT higher, thats why youll see lawyers, doctors, dentists, people in real estate careers etc switch over to build the business as well. It just makes sense once you see the real numbers and real compensation plan.
From what Ive seen, a business only needs 3 partnerships to make $100,000 yearly, as long as you keep those 3 then you get paid for life, then you get to decide if you want to keep your job or not.. more choices open up. Now just add on waaaaay more money the more people you add on. If you had a 50 person business, you could very much be a millionaire a few times over. But like anything in this world, if we dont try it, how the hell would we know? Lol
It's a completely different concept if you consider it a retail business. In that you sell $800 of product to customers per month. Figures are all different. Running a business is not about buying stock and keeping it yourself. It's about buying stock and selling to customers. Small business is about selling, not buying. Buying and keeping is not a business. Retail is business. Learn to sell and then teach others how to sell.
Unfortunately not all that are recruited are learning to sell. Setting the expectations of what that looks like upfront is necessary to challenge that individuals decision to make an educated choice. “This is what it would look like if you don’t sell”
Even if you sell, your only getting about 3% to 20% which means you have to sell about 10,000 per month to make a living. Not a very good incentive for the new guy at the bottom of the pyramid. That is where the real problem is.
@@jvaldez1896 you are building a business, not working a job. So it will be difficult at the beginning when you only have yourself. But the best thing from Amway is you will get educated of how to retail, how to build your team, finding people and training them to build their own business as well. It’s a duplicable business and when you get it done once, you done it for your whole life, and even pass it down to your next generation. You don’t need to make $10,000 revenue by your own (you could, but not necessary). Once you have your team, your PV will add up and your incentive will increase. Amway has updated more incentive so you can earn more money lately. Work hard and smart
@@vuthien8889 like you said "once you build your team" the problem is that in network marketing most people don't build their team for years. So the business here is basically building the team not selling the product. And that's fine I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But there are other MlM companies that pay you enough commissions to make a living on the products until you can build that team.
@@jvaldez1896 you can sell the products to make extra money on the side, of course if you go this way you will have to retail in order to make money. But if you want to build a foundation to your future so you can get off the path of trading time for money, you can build your team. It’s just like how other business owner have hundreds of people as their employees, and the employees work for them. If you choose to not having a team, you are just like a self-employee, people who own small business with not many people in their team or employees will have to work hard everyday to maintain their small business. Duplication is the key in every successful business, you cannot work for your whole life, then why not teach other how to do it and you get some % back as a return when they can run on their own? This is basically how franchise business work as well.
What if every person in Utah gave me a dollar? I would be a millionaire. Yes I would love to enter Amway and have 100 people spend 400 dollars in Amway Products so I can get a 50k salary out of that. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The only anyone need to know about Amway and any MLM aka to run as fast as you can. If your main goal is to sign up other members and go to pep rallies and listen to motivational tapes on how rich your going to be RUN!
What you have is valuable. You don’t have to take my advice, but I’d say you should be the seller and not the buyer. The key to the compensation plan is filling it with people who have been run through a filter to insure they’re people who recognize, and value the opportunity. Many won’t. You only need a few who do. Let this information you know very well get filtered into the motivated, hungry individuals who deserve it. Go diamond 💎
Misinformation? Actually know what you are talking about before posting a video
Oh god. This is awful 😂 $72 for a sales team to sell 1000 ‘pv’ which is probably just 1000 products that need to be sold. At the low end you’re getting less than a quarter a sale. Wtf😂😂😂
You did a great job explaining how ludicrous and insane the Amway concept is. Not sure how anyone would spend even $50 a month on cleaning products! Or even spend that each month as a large container of laundry detergent lasts more than a month as does dish washing liquid and bathroom cleaner. Each of those last about 2 months - I have a large home. For all of the above I would spend about $25!!! And not per month! How could anyone even afford to spend $800 per month of cleaning products???? You have to be a moron to sign up for this or be blinded by greed and gullibility to be fooled by the mentor explaining all this for you!
Loved it. Clear and concise. Thanks : ]
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Its way to much info for these dont undestand... this info dont fit in their brain! The easiest way to make them feel "good" and secure, oh I hate MLM blaba..😂 ohh its a Pyramid Bla bla! Oh this and that.... so smart they think they are, that they lose more than what make😂😂😂😂
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It is a scam. I am glad you didn't fall for it.
She said buy products. Why it is a scam? Jajajaja
@@reynaldorodriguez2634 over-priced products.
Do people still not know what a pyramid scheme is
Many people are switching to affiliate marketing
Yup this one ☝️ and that $800 dollars example is bullcrap 🙃
Currently open to as many avenues. Interested in affiliate marketing. However I believe the skills learned in affiliate marketing could very well be used to grow a network marketing business. In regards to product sales.
No
Why would you bother with this amway nonsense .
she is explaining how its a scam
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If one's soul mate or one's close relatives are not hot for AMWAY, Amway wants one to dump them. AMWAY can kiss the red rose.
Aww that’s sad 😔
It's very rare to have more than a few front-line people in your downline, it's much more common to grow the business with your handful of downline have their own downlines. It's not as profitable but it is much more achievable. Also, if you calculate the payout from the bottom up, the calculations are a bit easier. However, what you described is the gross profit, the thousands of dollars/year of overhead costs mean most people will be losing money at any given time, most people quit within a year or so and need to be replaced just to stay at the same level. It's a lot of work to keep a scam operating.
I see a few people commenting: "why would you discourage other potentional business ownerss!!!!" and I'm like "... you want MORE competition for the same overpriced products???"
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This is absolutely NOT a business, all id does is ruin credit and marriages.
@@teddypendagrass491 It's a business, a business scam.
@@meishamariepaul3518 Different people know people that you don't know. Plus, the internet has allowed recruiting around the world.
I like how well you broke down the math. However, your are absolutely wrong when you say that each independent owner has to pay $800 a month on amway products. You are selling products to people, you don't have to spend your own money on the products if you don't want to.
The VAST majority of distributors have no real idea of what 7500 PV (direct) is. It’s about $50,000 (BV) per month?
Building this is beating a dead horse. Market/local saturation occurred decades ago, and absolutely will block you from sponsoring in any meaningful way.
Prsonnaly i don't think that i can make finanbcial freedom with this plan , it is like a monthly subscription , i don't know if i may be wrong and misunderstood the plan or i have to purchase products just so i can keep working thank god i am working where the plan is more simple and rentable and i don't have to purchase a product only once.
You can buy comparable products of same or even higher quality than Amway products for much cheaper at Walmart, discount stores, Amazon and save hundreds of dollars. So instead of spending $800 to make $72 and hoping the people you recruited are also spending a lot on Amway you can simply buy comparable products and save $300. If you buy Amway products to sell it's a tough sell because you can get similar products at Walmart for a lot cheaper. Your cost for the Amway product plus your up-sell cost to make a profit makes those products very expensive. No need to screw over your friends and family to make a buck.
I agree!!!! When looking at what other products are available on the market it’s hard to justify choosing the products offered by Amway, in my opinion.
Do the products on Walmart/ Amazon have 100% traceability though?
Very thorough demonstration and analysis, thanks so much for that!
Thank you so much! Glad it was of value to you :)
@@EliseHewlett so you aren't able to do and effort for a network marketing business.
With that character is not possible
400 dollars a month on products that I personally have never bought
Thank you for this. I didn't want to waste my time any further on Amway.
In 2021, 33% of all U.S. registered IBOs had no reported sales, did not sponsor another IBO, and did not earn any compensation from Amway; 62% of all U.S. registered IBOs in 2021 received a payment from Amway in at least one month for sales that occurred during 2021. Of the IBOs who received a payment from Amway in one or more months here is what they annually earned before expenses:
The Top 1% earned $87,901 (average) and $55,264 (median)
The Top 10% earned $14,537 (average) and $4,645 (median)
The Top 50% earned $3,414 (average) and $631 (median)
That’s straight from the Amway website.
This is really interesting, thank you
Depending on where you're at in the process of building your business, whether its Amway or not, those numbers can actually be quite significant when you factor how passive the income is being generated.
Before starting any business, one must be deprogrammed from the worker mindset.
The financial problems that alot of people face tend to be a lack of financial literacy and proper skills to flourish in a capitalist society.
Don't forget that Amazon operated at a loss for years and many other companies have. Perseverance always prevails.
@@Happy-go-luckyTV these are straight from the Amway website are you that blinded by this business???? Amazon isn’t a MLM
@Eliza D lemme guess... you also believe web3 business model is a scam?
MLM is a business model that people tend to relate to scam.
I'm not blinded by anything.
Life is a game. Figure out the rules and win.
Call it what you want. I don't think its a scam. In fact, create your own white label product and compete with Amway. Maybe you'll get better results than what you've posted. Maybe you won't. 😉
The fact that you've posted those numbers as if it was a "gotcha" moment speaks a little bit about yourself.
@@Happy-go-luckyTV listen buddy just go on build your little business and stop @ me Idc I know this is scam!!!!!
And it’s not about the “products” like they can have the best f ing product in the world and still operate as a unethical business model. Don’t bring up products this is about the products. It’s about recruiting people.
How is it a Pyramid scheme if everyone has the same opportunity as the guy at the top? It’s a top down model but every business has that top down concept. It’s a level plain filed, based off of performance. Is your job base off of performance or position?!!!! Maybe you should take a look at your 9-5 job where MR CEO at the top makes all the money while you make bucket change, now that’s a brilliant pyramid scheme. Get educated people!!!
Elise Hewlett is an investment banker and I don't think she even knows it (that's a compliment btw)
You can't go get 75 people to shop at a website that you partner with
Thank you for explaining ur very smart n sound fing beautiful take care
For me Amway Is a Gold mine. I LOVE ❤️❤️❤️❤️AMWAY 100% 💎💎💎.
Thank God for this Company 🙏🙏🙏 God bless AMWAY forever and ever 🙏🙏🙏
I hope you're not genuinely thanking God, He has a few things to say about lying and fraud and the philosophy of pyramid schemes.
Yes!
You are in deep arent you? Do you pray to the Amway God each night?
Scam show
Keep in mind that the 800 or 400 dollars dont have to come out of your pocket but other people you sell to
@sandponicsI agree bro people are too lazy to put in the work that's why it's easy to win nowadays there's no competition 🥂😊
Ohhhhhh... so it's a pyramid scheme.
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yhh but what about the products ent he gottta sell those too make extra cash too soo yh
Incorrect i guess
I lost over $4,000 in Amway, I would stay away from this MLM business model. I left over 4 months ago, and my upline still messages me like a crazy ex. I realized I was brainwashed to think positivity, positivity, positivity, but that’s only so you can stay and keep making your upline money. If you’re new, stay away from MLM’s
Wow, I am sorry to hear that John! At least it wasn't more I suppose? That's not much consolation, I know, it hurts not only how much money but also time and effort people are putting into it... and for what :S
Waw, I will be join ......
no one loose money in Amway...your friends must have cheated you,,,hahaha
I am from India.
Studied only 8th grade
Joined Amway in 2017 with my wife after our marraige
Now we are Sapphire in Amway.
Reunderstand this beautifull amway biz and grow in life.
Or you must be made for some other INDUSTRY. which is 100% great.
My problem with Amway is how they pressured you to buy the books, tapes and go to all the rallies. This is how much of the upline makes money by getting a cut of that business. If they instead would help everyone get on auto-ship for the actual products that they would use like cleaning supplies and personal care people would not drop out at such a high rate.
Don’t tell me it’s not a pyramid scheme where within the first 60 seconds of the video a literal pyramid is being drawn
To be fair, a pyramid scheme does not involve any actual service or product, and amway has a wide variety of products. Also, a pyramid scheme is a get-rich-quick scheme usually, and that is not the case in amway. In amway, you still need to work very hard to build a solid business and find the right people to work with (which takes months or years depending on the person). In addition, in amway you can make more income than the person above you if you have a better business structure. In a pyramid scheme, the person above always makes more money. also amway has been around for about 60 years, if it were truly an illegal pyramid scheme I don't think it would still be around or so successful. I've been to amway events my whole life and seen my parents do it my whole life as well. I am familiar with the products and how the business works. The problem with amway is the people that do not understand how to explain it correctly or give off wrong impressions. my dad went from working in construction to never having to work again thanks to the work he has put into amway. I understand why people might think it is sketchy or a pyramid scheme, but that is not the case.
@Elise: you do not have understood the business! Since Amway has been in business for more than 60 years, there are a lot of successful people you can learn from. Get precise information before confusing people with such a video! Thx
just because a business has been around for a long time doesnt mean its not a scam
@@offencivecontent2464 they even have bad reviews from credible sources like LA Times
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Hi Elise. I know this is an old video and you don't put up many but your viewership is relatively low. Just by making this video 119k ppl watched it. That shows interest which could easily create 75 ppl under your management. Just a different perspective
Bet if she were talking about her Amway products in this video it wouldn't receive 119k views
@ReubenDouds_RealEstate maybe not but if it received 1000 views it shows interest at a minimum. It says re in your name: if 1000 people watched a video you made about a property you have that would show significant interest and the potential to sell is even higher than normal. Everything in sales is a numbers game and presentation. More people see what you are selling is interest and you don't need 119k you are asking for a small percentage of that
You might want to edit "a simplified manor" to read "a simplified manner."
If memory serves, a manor is a piece of real estate whereas "manner" is the intended descriptor.
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You explained it so very well. one thing I've learn is that numbers can not lie, and you are right it is a type of mind set you need to have and also information if one is gonna step in this type of marketing. The way I understood it with the mindset I have is that I can make those $400 that I would have spend anyways, make me $5400 every month if I can help other people do the same and understand what I understood or I guess in the way that I understood it. Cause if only people would have understood it a couple years ago, maybe people would have been better off financially when this pandemic hit. I most definitely agree with you, I my self definitely don't spend $800 in products that's a lot and with everyone losing their jobs and being on unemployment, I don't think people would be able to even afford that right now. Thank you so much for this video.
Elise Hawlett not giving the right facts...Surely 3 million Amway Business Owners around the world are not stupid...I suggest learn from the right people...I have been 37nyears in Amway, It is the best compensation plan ever.....your downline can supersede you if he works harder.....you are rewarded according to your effort...find out from the right people, Amway already 62 years , a company with no debts...
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@@annaleong4705 yeah, at the expense of preying on your friends and family. the condescending "know it all" attitude of every single person that vouches for or represents amway makes me believe the culture of the company is actually disgusting and toxic
You “can” make 5400 dollars, but that is extremely rare. Even if you work you’re ass off, it is extremely difficult to recruit people to a pyramid scheme. There also isn’t much of a market for their product. Most people are more comfortable with buying from Amazon or the store down the road.
@@annaleong4705 you are really deep into this I truly hope you soon realize the way you’ve been scammed and the way you’ve scammed others. A lot of people who defend anyway And other MLM’s are those who’ve invested everything thus are afraid of realizing that they’re not actually getting what promised.
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I made it to 15% in 1994 and the money was pretty good. I developed a ton of self--confidence from the self-development system and I have no regrets whatsoever, because I replaced a crappy government job on 18k a year, with a 40k teaching career.
However, this 'new' plan is terrible because during my time, I would receive a percentage of the entire group - and not just a percentage of my own spending. So whereas Bill gets 9% back from his own spending, I would get 9% of the entire group PV. Not only that, it appears that distributors pay a single cost for products and are expected to sell them at that same 'retail' price! I was able to purchase my products at wholesale and sell them at a 30% mark-up for retail.
It seems to me that the business model has changed dramatically - so as to benefit the corporation and not the distributors.
The products are superb and I would still order them today, except that I don't want some crazy-positive distributor dropping in for a three hour coffee.
I really value the honest opinion, it’s refreshing. Thank you for sharing!
How much money did you make after subtracting out your overhead costs? Which tool group was your upline promoting, N21, WWDB, etc.?
@@Whydoyoubanothers Hi Scott, all I know was that our UK group existed under the umbrella of International Business Systems (IBS) and our line of sponsorship was - Scriven, B O'Brien, JP Harteis, F Harteis, Dexter Yager - or something like that. Personally, the tools cost me roughly £40 per month (for one tape of the week, one 'red' leadership tape and one book of the month), while income fluctuated from £300 to £500 per month. But for me, the most important item was the self development of myself. However, the first year was mostly money going out and I reckon to have paid £500 for functions and tools during that first year.
Hope that helps.
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did you keep going or did you stop? if you stopped, why did you, if your money was "pretty good" and you improved your self image? I'm just interested because im new to amway. Thank you.
Thank u..very well explained
You mentioned nothing on mentorship? We spend roughly 13 - 15 years of school to be employee minded.........So when a business model and mindset is being presented to you or only 11 minutes, the brain goes.... "Errrrr ERROR. Pyramid scheme, I don't like this!! passive income make brain go brrrrrrrrr
wow great explanation and thanks.
This is a pretty good rudimentary explanation, however, keep in mind you're completely leaving out all the bonuses incentives AND most importantly, retail profit. This is not a business without retail sales, so that "$800" will actually be majority sales to retail clients, not just personal use. You'd actually make more than this example shows because of the 10% retail margin. 😊
I'm about to start this, I'll give it a year and Not going to Every week meeting 8pm to 11pm. Meeting every bloody week is crazy, almost cultist in my opinion.
Meet every lunch break is best
How has it been so far in the business?
If you don't associate regularly with like minded people, stay around your broke friends and treat it like a hobby, you will never succeed. Shouldn't have started in the first place.
How is it going?
Awwww No Doubt the model she is explaining is correct. But the fact that has been mentioned is not even 20% of what you get out of the Business plus she never started the Business. Let's suppose you only spend $100 a month from Woolworths what do you get at the end? $10 for $2000 spent which you'll follow your entire life. This business comes with an opportunity cost not only in terms of Tangible Assets but mostly the Intangible Growth that is priceless, a better Health and a Beautiful Skin. You didn't even mention the Rewards that one could get 😂 Know your facts from a Winner 😊
30% do something. 70% watch the world pass by.
And 1% use the products they buy
I'll be the 70% not losing money in buying forced rubbish stock that stays in my garage
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Honestly, I developed a much better system. This system is ok, but it has massive problems. My biggest issue, is that the products are very mediocre. If I believed in the products, I could actually do very well selling them. There would be no shame in it. They have a few good products, but a few won't cut it. The whole system must be good. Because nobody gonna make money by buying 1-3 products they like.
Anyway. I would be on board with something like this if for example the philosophy behind all of the products was ultra healthy, non toxic, organic, non gmo. Otherwise, there are plenty of other products out there that are better.
So were u an IBO? If thats the way u show the plan guessing and no structure or personal experience and mentorship you aint going anywhere. U left a lot of things out of the equation. I don’t spend $800. I have ladies that r 60 yrs old, can’t drive and speak English making it. All ages, all people can make this work with the proper training!