The Soul King position, unlike being a Kage or King of The Pirates, is a fate worst than death. Suck on that Voldemort, there really are fates far, far worst than death. What good is immortality if your freewill and limbs are robbed?
With this revelation in mind, while Yhwach and Aizen are evil in how they treat others- they’re the lesser evil to those who performed the original sin and willing to continue to cover up the truth.
Unfortunately, the entire world was built through that original sin, so removing it kinda fucks everything. Like, Hollows would be freely roaming around with humans, concentrating souls as they gorged themselves and shit. It wasn't like the world before was a good thing, and the efforts of the Soul King to save people before he was trapped prove as much. They didn't have to do bro like that, but the separation of the primordial world to create some stability was kinda necessary, from what we know.
@@jablue4329absolute power corrupts absolutely, so no matter how righteous his rule was or could be, it would end up somehow toxic or evil. If we go off of the remnants of his body: he would be able to quite literally physically control you, endlessly revive, see the future, create whatever he wanted and so on. No one person should have that much power. It was a hard choice but I would have done the same to seal the Soul King, even going so far as to become a jinchuuriki knock off and seal a piece within me if we had to, or become the next King if my reiatsu was dense enough. I think Seireitei is worth that sacrifice. To let Aizen or Ywach seize control would be to repeat the cycle, not stop it, which is why Ichibe would rather sacrifice Ichi-tan and keep the worlds separate than let the balance wane.
Are referring to Tokinada? Tokinada just abused the state of the already corrupted Soul society. We will never know how the world Aizen wanted would be like for the cause of one big sacrifice. Yhwach was so afraid of death that he wanted to revert to the original world. He just wanted to live in the past. Like Aizen said if people aren't afraid of death anymore they'll never develop courage and move on in life. Animals in captivity become dumber because they don't have to fear predators anymore. Because all Reio wanted to help and look what happened to him. They honestly wanted to do the same although Ichigo would always come when called upon.
@@nailinthefashion Notice the pattern of major misfortune befalling those who try to do good while maintaining the system also results in bloodshed as Kisuke and Yoruichi can attest to, them having been killers for it in the past. Meanwhile those who try to force change also rarely have noble intentions if at all. The only real peace is ironically among the blissfully unaware humans, hollow attacks notwithstanding.
@@manuelacosta9463 that mirrors real life perfectly, with Democrats and Republicans both being greedy little demon parties. Those who are lucky reside in the nice parts of Seireitei or the Human world and never have to deal with war or politics firsthand, but the majority of people are actively trained, working class or in Hueco Mundo and roughing it. I empathize with Aizen moreso than Ywach because he has a slightly more noble air about him but I think both represent what happens when one's ideals run ahead of the truth around them. Imagine how peaceful things would be if they accepted that they were not much better than those who came before? How our presidents in real life behave eerily the same? It's depressing but it's what has made Bleach my favourite anime of all time, it's felt very relevant yet fictional for over a decade. That's insane. I'd definitely be an arrancar or vaizard on the sidelines, maybe even creating my own bubble reality where we dispute disagreements with silly games instead of all this needless violence. That is also insane.
But that's different when ichigo protects people it's by his own freewill and fights the villains while becoming the soul king is not by his choice and if he resists ichibei would either attack him or threaten his friends and family
As cruel as this may sound, it was probably for the best that Yamamoto lost, because with Shunsui at the helm, there may be a chance for actual positive change to occur within the Soul Society. He does seem to be more levelheaded and less strict than his predecessor.
Btw notice that Soul king allmighty has 4 pupils, Yuach has 3, while Pernida has two, Mimihagi 1. I think might be a scale of power there. And interesting Yuach wasn't actually as strong as his father (while Ichigo in the process of becoming soul king has 4 pupils)
Ichigo in the image had 5. This could be a simple situation of races they exist as + 1 Iris for being transcendent. The soul king gave birth to 3 races.
interesting observation, The number of pupils might indeed represent a scale of power, and it's intriguing to note the differences between the Soul King, Yhwach, and other entities.
Imagine if Ichibei and Kyoraku would bow down their heads to ask Ichigo if in the worst case scenario he would become the Soul king. He can still refuse but in this case it would have to be Aizen. The soul reapers would give him exactly what he always wanted. Also do you think Aizen, Ginjo and Hikone would also have to go through the same spiritual corridor as Ichigo?
Aizen would never allow them to do to him what they did to the soul king and neither would he trust them. He knows the original sin. He wants to be soul king but not in that way. Its safer for them to go with ichigo that is why ichigo was chosen over aizen. Ichigo is far easier to trick. Aizen is too intelligent and crafty.
@@BigJohn303 I don't think they'd be able to kill and mutilate him. So they'd have to release him form the chair. Nobody knows what Aizen would do if he'd be the new Soul King. Could Yhwach still try to overthrow him or give up?
imagine if Ichibei and Kyoraku asked Ichigo to become Soul King, giving Aizen what he wanted. As for Aizen, Ginjo, and Hikone, they might have to go through the spiritual corridor like Ichigo, but it's uncertain.
I wonder who would rebel for Ichigo’s sake and who would stick to the status quo? Unfortunately, as much as I like him, I have to agree about Kisuke initially being displeased but relenting to the idea, but I’m confident he would be the most conflicted. I do think he truly cares for Ichigo. But he’s more loyal to the state of the world. I’m certain his closest companions, Orihime, Chad, Uryu, his family (Isshin and the Shiba’s, and Ryuken by extension), Rukia, Renji, Byakuya, Kenpachi and his squad would rebel. I actually think Toshiro and Rangiku would rebel too, along with Shinji and the Visoreds. I honestly think Yoruichi would be against this and Kisuke’s willingness to accept it would put a wedge between the 2, leading them to fight. The Fullbringers would side with Ichigo being free and of course Grimmjow and particularly Nel would be against this. God… I think even Aizen would fight for Ichigo like you said too 😅 That leaves Squad 0, Shunsui, Soifon, Squads 4, 7, 8 and 13, and Mayuri. Despite the insurmountable odds of fighting Squad 0 plus the likes of Mayuri and Shunsui on the status quo side… I think Kisuke would be a tipping point. If he could be convinced (read: have some sense beaten into him) by Yoruichi to join the rebellion, I think him and Aizen with the rest of the rebels laid out could pull it off and save Ichigo. What a fascinating (and unsettling 😅) scenario! Thanks for the video!
Nah yoruichi would not rebel. Because she knew about the soul societies original sin for awhile. She wanted to mind wipe hisagi without his consent because hisagi knew too much. I get you are a fan of hers but yeah she would be for it. Ofcourse she would NOT like it but she would be for it. Toshiro and rangiku is iffy.
No one will rebel, because all of them including ichigo will agree its for the best since ichigo was the only option they had (the soul king has to be a combination of all of the races quincy ,hollow and shinigami/human and is not like there is a bunch of those) what probably happen is that all of soul society will look of a way to make something to replace ichigo as the new soul king so he can be free (since the nobles only cut the old soul king into parts because they were afraid of him )
@@BigJohn303 - SHE KNEW??? Oh damn. Sorry, I only know the broad strokes of the novels. In that case… yeah… she would be on the status quo side… 😓 Funny enough, I was a tad iffy on Rangiku and Toshiro when writing that, but I feel like Rangiku’s closeness to Orihime might push them toward rebellion. But I’ll def grant you, they’re iffy.
@@SoyElBrokas - That’s a totally valid theory too! I feel like Kisuke (probably cuz I like him, so biased 😅) would look for a way to replace Ichigo ASAP. And that is true of the Soul King and th noble families. Maybe if Ichigo were to amicably agree to do it temporarily, there could be a peaceful transition
It would've been a nightmare especially given Ichigo's actions to save everyone. Him getting the ending he got is more fitting. Just goes to show how the ancestor's avarice continues to echo into the present with Ichibei still following their wishes. Not to mention the bloody cover up of the truth. The fact that even a psychopathic walking terror like Tokinada actually praised Ichigo for his heroic selflessness and lack of agenda beyond helping others is telling even for a maniac like him.
I actually don't think Ichibei would mutilate Ichigo because the mutilation of the original Soul King was solely due to the Tsuniyashiro ancestor's paranoia about the original Soul King breaking out. Ichibei has no such fears about Ichigo and likes the kid in his own twisted way.
Maybe ichigo is SK but with free range, it could be possible, still we need kubo confirmation, but how much we need to wait, actualy how many years 😂😂😂😂
@@MrGksarathyu have a point there with soul tickets there, i watch the anime but also read it that part to, but we all read and saw the hell chapter, now, what we still need to wait and see is new hell chapter sequel
@@MrGksarathynah Ichibei would totally do it and he would very likely kill or imprison anyone who used the soul ticket in order to keep the secret. That jovial front he puts up is nothing more than a sham and the anime makes it pretty clear that nobody who knows him likes him, least of all the other members of the Royal Guard.
@@TenebraeXVII Maybe, but even then, Kyouraku has enough pull to even give the soul tickets, so he would likely push to allow Ichigo visitors, even if he can't out muscle our evil monk. In any case, as I said before, Ichibei genuinely likes Ichigo in his own way due to his resemblance to the Shiba clan ancestor, and he doesn't fear Ichigo the way the ancestors feared the original. I feel the one "decency" Ichibei would extend to Ichigo would be to not mutilate him and maybe allow him some company.
It would become a massive civil war and possibly threaten the balance everyone wanted to correct. And if Ichigo woke up his Almighty before being weakened, he’d probably kill the Guard.
Hmmmm.. would be adorable if the kids had to save him bc squad 0 kidnap him and try to prepare him to be the next SK. Imagine the little bankais 😭 I deeply hope he doesn't go the Boruto route and time skip. I wanna see more development around the soul king AND kids
Civil War? You mean ichigo, Chad, uryu vs everyone else? Urahara is his mentor and he would obviously team with the soul society lol. Oh yeah isshin would probably help ichigo. It would be the most lopsided fight ever.
@@brendondowdy5651 I'm thinking you're gonna get Kenpachi on Ichigo's side, Renji, Rukia, possibly Byakuya, and maybe another few captains. Once they know what it would mean, it would be terrifying. But then again, if Ichigo awakens The Almighty then he wouldn't be ableto be touched and that in and of itself could cause a war. It would depend on how it was written, but a civil war would be a fitting ending to the Soul Society given how it upheld the original sin; meaning we would have probably got the Hell arc sooner in the civil war fantasy.
@jamesw2831 remember byakuya and Kenny came to kill ichigo in the fullbring arc if he didn't go against ginjo. But at the end of the day there's only a few characters that would even matter. Obviously ichigo, ichibei, aizen, and squad zero are the heavy hitters and none of them would side with ichigo. Now aizen may not side with team ichibei so could turn into a free for all. I always felt like ichigo should've found out what ichibei had done with the SK and somehow saved Juha on accident and that's how ichibei loses.
That was a thing built from One Piece and Naruto mostly. It became such a big trope off their backs, and it's very clear Kubo had most of the important shit in Bleach planned out from the beginning. Ichigo being a hybrid of everything, and what that means for Ichigo and the rest of the world, at the very least. There was no way a trope like that made enough ripples for him to try and subvert it just 2 years after Naruto and One Piece released. Based on where they were roughly (chapter 104 at the latest not considering breaks or exact dates each series released), that trope didn't pick up steam even in their respective series. The Strawhat crew were just entering the Grand Line, and the Chunin Exams were just about to end in Naruto.
@@kalypso4133 While I believe Kubo had planned things better than most series, I doubt every little detail was meticulously planned from the start, some new ideas and changes would still come while writing throughout the story.
@@ghostspider2056 I didnt say every detail. Just the main stuff. Like I said, Ichigo being a hybrid of everything was hinted at very early and what that likely will mean for him and the world.
@@kalypso4133 I don’t know if there were any hints about him being also being part Quincy or Fullbring early on or that being a hybrid of all of them is related to the Soul King.
@@ghostspider2056 Part Quincy was hinted was really early. as soon as it was revealed his mother was killed by Grand Fisher. if Grand Fisher was after Ichigo, both would have died. So she had spiritual pressure, and next thing that happens is Uryu is introduced. No way that it wasnt intentional considering what was revealed in TYBW. Then we have him team up with his cousins during the Soul Society arc. Isshin is a Shiba and an uncle to Ganju and his sister. There was a lot hinted at like that. Actually, it was never officially said that they were in the series but Isshin was revealed as a Shiba officially in the manga.
Since we are not sure if or when the hell arc in the manga will continue I think would be interesting if they gave us a hint in cor 4 with Ichibe saying something ominous like “so little Ichigo was not the one needed. Huh. I guess it was good that Ywach ended up the lynchpin”. I know that’s basically what’s said in the novel but I think it would be great in the anime to aknowledge it!
Yh and Aizen are a byproduct of the original sin. Ichibei is a disgusting cheat. The soul king never even resisted and yet they mutilated his body out of fear for a being not only helping them, but willing to become a martyr for them. Sick.
I get the feeling that if Ichigo ever became the Soul King and was cut up in the process, both OMZ and Hollow Ichigo would manifest themselves outside of the Zanpakuto to stand guard for Ichigo. Even Ichigo's fullbring might manifest itself into a physical form.
@@johnjackson9751Fullbringers are humans who gained power throughout their childhood via Soul King fragment being in their soul. It worked like the hogyoku granting them one desire in their heart. Which manifested into the abilities they now have.. get it?
Honestly ichigo is too good and innocent for his own good while he was trying save the soul reapers incompetent asses ichibei was sending him to his dead fully knowing he can't defeat Yhwach and to make things worse he was planning to use ichigo as a meat replacement for soul king ichibei and the soul reapers are lower than scam and don't deserve ichigo
I love the idea of Aizen stepping into to protect ichigo from becoming the soul king. I’ve always loved the idea of villains turning into Allie’s as long is it makes sense and is played well. Aizen seems to hold some sort of respect for ichigo and ichigo seems to care about Aizen to an extent. Especially since he screamed out Aizen name when he was stab through the chest by ywach arm. I could never hate Aizen cause I agree with him to an extent, besides his narcissistic tendencies he really did not what the soul king was and was appalled by such a fate for anyone.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I keep forgetting about him tbh but he's the only one I can think of outside of squad 0 with reiatsu dense enough to become a stable SK. I think Ywach is too corrupt to allow it long term and probably has some sort of failsafe or plan at work to undo it since he could prob see this future. Also, Aizen loves to sit and watch. He's been super happy in the pit as long as things are peaceful, oddly so. I think he's reformed and will politely ask Uryu if it's possible to swap him and Ichi-tan's places. Maybe doing a little cup game of Uryu swapping with Ichi-tan then Aizen. Something simple like that would be so beautiful to finally end on, but I know the Hell arc is gonna be insane. I've been theorizing there must be more secret realms for over a decade lmao
a fascinating idea indeed, with Aizen stepping in to protect Ichigo from becoming the Soul King. Villains turning into allies can be intriguing if done well, and Aizen does seem to have a complex relationship with Ichigo. It's understandable to empathize with Aizen's perspective on the Soul King.
I think Aizen truly likes Ichigo, plus he is against all this crap. I think he will somehow step up and then him and Ichigo can defeat Ichbei and put him with Yhwach after cutting his limbs so he can remain there for eternity.
That makes a lot of sense, idk if it was this channel that made the theory of the hogyoku leaving aizen bc he was lonely at the top and didn't want the power anymore and Ichigo is what made him realize that being the one to finally take him down from the pedestal he now realizes he does not want to actively hold power in. At least that's the most logical reason that came to my head
Kubo better stop his favoritism for the soul reapers and show them as the real evil of the story in hell Arc and doesn't Butcher the new faction like he did to the Quincys for the sake of making soul reapers look good
There's a theory floating around the fact that powerful Shinigami end up in hell and Soul Society's nobility know nothing but shallow greed/paranoid conflict is cosmic karma getting even with them over their ancestor's past actions. We will see what happens but it certainly won't be good. Unsurprising though.
I… really should read the novels. I’m still confused as to how Fullbringers have Soul King fragments in them 🙃 didn’t know Ginjo was a Soul King candidate either wtf, great video!
Bro a pls a prediction vid on events of cour 3 like additional stuff prediction or events and honestly cour 3 will be the best cour if it dropped anytime in 2024. And also keep up the good work 😁
12:45 Actually, in chapter 574 of the manga, when Gremmy raises the giant structure that he and Kenpachi were standing on, one of the Shinigami from Squad 11 points out that they didn't sense Kenpachi's spiritual pressure until the structure went up.
Cause he transcended, it's a measure of power mix of races are have their own names. Imran got it wrong. Soul king candidates have potential to transcend by training, aizen and ginjo are quincy and under yhwach's powers cause only quincy can become soul kings.
Thing is those are foot soldiers. Most transcendent being show capabilities of not being detected by even captain class. Or else are normal shinigami transcendent because they're untraceable by humans.
Truth. Imagine the great schism it would've caused between those who wish to keep the status quo vs those who oppose Ichigo being made a mutilated puppet for its sake, humble savior that he is. Ichigo is a powerhouse but unlike many others he never let it go to his head.
I think he's one of if not the only one with reiatsu dense enough though, so it would be interesting to see if they aren't left with a choice how that plays out. The Gotei 13 vs squad 0 would be SICK
7:25 you assume when ichigo become soul king they could able to do same thing they done to previous soul king to him. That is a biiiiig baseless assumption. Especially when you consider ichigo changed the soul society big time and what they done to previous king done because of their fear. Plus he is main character and have amazing plot armour
I love your content and I love how the way you broke this down in ways I can fully understand it better, now that you explained this so well it make me want to rewatch Bleach again and rethink everything that I've watched in this entire series growing up throughout my childhood that I wouldn't expect. You gotta give Tite Kubo credit for putting this much effort in not just the design, but the character development and the story itself and how and where it takes place. But this whole thing is just tragic and mind-blowing to begin with, I wouldn't expect Ichigo to the next Soul King. And make me think that Sosuke Aizen and Yhwach Bach were the true heroes all along, but went about it in the wrong way. But I respect them for actually doing something about it that most won't, even if the whole world is against them. But I really your videos keep uploading these they're entertaining and educational as well 😊.
read the novels to actually understand the full lore: no ichibei is neutral he dosent want to kill ichigo but he will seal him if he has to, he prepared ichigo (because he is one of the few in the universe that can take the soul king's place) as a last resort in case everything else fails , aizen didnt knew that the soul king holds no power at all (going for him instead of the nobles ),yhwach dont understand that it was the soul king knew what the nobles were going to do to him and still he decided to be sealed (he had the all mighty but in a way stronger version and saw everything) also yhwach lies about his real motives , he wants to kill the soul king to return the worlds to the form they were before and destroy the cycle of death and rebirth because he is afraid of dying but he dosent know (more of what he dont want to understand) that the soul king sacrificed himself so they cam escape a destiny way way worse than death thats why ichibei see him as a kid because he is acting like one.
😂 mane the death gods ( soul reapers ) just fuck everything up and make bad decisions that cause harm to everyone just for “ balance “ wym 😂 so they just sacrificing the one guy that’s saved they asses everytime yea that’s a good plan and use him forever and chop him up as a gift 😂 you right the villains won and ichigo ain’t even know he’s on the evil side 😂 lol that’s why they opened hells gates in now it’s even worse yhwach was tryna save y’all just like irl Jesus saved us but noo y’all wanna chose the demon gods tuff
There is something nuclear with the reasoning of the video, because the whole issue regarding becoming the soul King is to that it would ''tourn you into a living corpse''. However, the fact that he is a corpse is due to the Royal families who dismembered the king because they feared his power. However today Ichigo has many supporters including among the heads of the Royal families. We know that the dismemberment was not mandatory, and I could see a world where it is not done because people trust Ichigo.
Amazing video! It comes down to the fear of Ichigo gaining too much power and restricting his freedom. They don’t have to mutilate the soul king to maintain the three worlds separate, but doing so assured that there was no way the Soul King could ever escape of his own volition be it Rei-o, Ichigo or Yhwach. The true sin and betrayal is taking away their freedom of choice and forcing them to live in static space for eternity.
On Aizen’s transcendence, I believe the initial butterflaizen form was a Quincy Holy Form, then the second monstrous butterflaizen form added a third race to the mix with hollowification. Aizen did have three holes and three eyes in his design, hinting at three races worth of transcendence, substantially less than Ichigo’s five pupil’d almighty
Ichigo never got the all mighty , the soul king was using his power to show ichigo visions of the past and that was reflected on ichigo's eyes also aizen didnt got a quincy or hollow form he evolved something that is a totaly diferent since he wanted to trancend all limits of a shinigami so he probably was becoming a totaly new thing but he was still a only shinigami thats also why he wasent a posible replacement for the soul king (since you need to have one of two things :1)absorb the old soul king's power like yhwach or 2) have a combination of the 3 races in you.
@@SoyElBrokas uh… I think you missed the point a bit. Aizen stated the hogyoko worked by melting down the barriers between races, later information told us that this worked because the hogyoko contained a fragment of the Soul King and therefore had a fusion of all the races built into it to work as a template. Aizen had stated that his initial post-cocoon form had one layer of transcendence and his monster butterfly form was able to perceive Dangai Ichigo, if barely. (At the time Ichigo had yet to gain access to his fullbringer powers and had to leave his human body behind to become a shinigami, so he likely had access to 3 races worth of power prior to entering his mugetsu form with all of his latent powers unleashed). So my prior post was postulating that the three races Aizen had fused together within himself were Shinigami>Quincy>Hollow in that order, rather than the commonly accepted Shinigami>Hollow>more Hollow?? As for Ichigo, he was only a soul king candidate, but he did have five pupils showing when he was on the verge of awakening the soul king powers/potential within himself, which tells us he would have been a fusion of five races as a soul king. (Human, fullbringer, Quincy, Shinigami, Hollow). Yhwach had three pupils in his eyes, and had human, quincy and fullbringer (shrift) powers Pernida had two pupils in his eyes, representing quincy and fullbringer (shrift) powers While the other hand of the soul king had merely one eye representing shinigami powers.
Also, Aizen mentioned himself that he had went from a 4d shinigami to a 5d then a 6d being… so there should have been two additional races mixed in by his own logic, not just the obvious hollowification when he formed the trio of hollow holes (Gin blasting a hole in Aizen was *not* hollowification, I believe Aizen would know if it were and do not believe he was lying about that)
interesting theory, Aizen's transcendence indeed incorporated elements of Quincy and Hollow powers, and the design choices of three holes and three eyes could be symbolic of the three races involved. The contrast with Ichigo's five-pupil almighty is intriguing.
@@Suto_Ko thank you, he also had three eyes upon his head and three extra heads upon his wings, but the wing eyes only had two eyes, so he was just one pupil short of six (which would have almost perfectly lined up with the almighty pupils Yhwach had, just split across more eyes)
If a rebellion did form because of Ichigo becoming the Soul King, then obviously the Vizards, Rukia, Renji, Byakuya, Squad 11, Toshiro, Rangiku, Hisagi(?) would go against Soul Society.
No one really ,because all of them including ichigo will agree its for the best since ichigo was the only option they had (the soul king has to be a combination of all of the races quincy ,hollow and shinigami/human) what probably happen is that all of soul society will look of a way to make something to be new soul king and replace ichigo
@@SoyElBrokasnah you are wrong, I think those are the exact people who will go against zero division and would be outclassed Until.... Aizen turns the tide of the battle. Headcanon here, now due to his Hogyoku he not only possesses immense power but he can transform the members of soul society like he did with arrancar, giving the vizards, Rangiku, Byakuya and Rukia a much needed power boost.
If he reaches that status it would follow in charcter to bequeath power unto mutiple entites essentially doing what was done to the soul king but knowingly and directed so currect beings will also be elevated to represent/govern/maintain different realms. Lessening Ichigos overall power and keeping him as a lynch pin without needing to desicrate his form. He has reach the point of seeing sometimes cruelty is the greatest kindness and vice/versa, the way Shunsui and Urahara do, but hes still got the noble hero streak that would have him just wrecking plans that rely on sacrificing innocents.
After the TYBW finishes they should make a movie about the civil war for ichigo if they try and make him the soul king. It would be really interesting for sure.
I am under the belief that The Soul King chose his fate. I also believe he transcended his physical form. Squad zero speak of him in the preset context. Like Ichigo believes in what's better for the many is more important of the one.
I always imagine that it isnt necessary to mutilate Ichigo, the "Noble" houses only did it to the original one because they were frightened of his power, but given that the leaders of 3 of the 5 noble houses know of Ichigo and are good friends with him, i dont imagine that the current generation would sign off on another mutilation, and while i imagine that the Gotei would reluctantly agree to make Ichigo into the new soul king for the security of the realms, i dont think that they would be fine with having him get chopped up for no real reason.
yeah, it's unlikely that Ichigo would need to be mutilated to become the Soul King, especially considering his relationships with the leaders of the noble houses and the Gotei.
You know how epic it would be to see the Soul Society against itself. Especially versus the Zero Squad. A theory video of that would be cool, but what if there's something like about but instead of Ichigo, someone else that could be a new candidate. What if his son felt like he had to turn on him. That would be wild.
Honestly, if Ichigo was made the Soul King, I think Rukia and Renji (and maybe even Byakuya) would probably revolt against the Shinigami, or at least quit. I just don't think there's any way they could continue to serve the organization that did that to their friend. It's a harsh truth that for all his strength and heroism, Ichigo is just a cog in a machine that doesn't care about him.
I don't think Urahara would be the enemy. I think it would be Shunsui and the zero division vs soul reapers including Aizen. When all hope is lost, Aizen and Urahara will come up with a plan to beat Ichibei and replace him as the corpse that holds the worlds. It might be revealed later that other pieces of him were his body parts but the Hogyoku was made from fragments of his consciousness
He does care tho in the final battle the amount of times yhwach begged ichigo to not stand in his way and ichigo being ichigo yhwaxh proceeds to whoop his ass😂
@@mufeezsyed2664 That's what I'm saying. Been a few years since I read the manga so I didn't recall this exact moment, but I knew there was something in there lol.
Ngl that would be a mad fire arc, imagine ichigo being imprisoned and when the revelations of what will happen to him are revealed to everyone and all out war happens where where everyone has to pick a side. Just imagine all the tension where everyone has to decide whether they follow their duty or what they feel us write. For one Byakuya would be an interesting character for this one as head of the Kuchiki clan
It makes me wonder what would actually happen if it went this way, considering the noble families are the real rulers of the Soul Society and Ichigo could very well have the backing of Byakuya and Yoruichi (and her brother would probably do what she says) and Ichigo's a direct descendant of the Shiba (although they lost their position). At this point in time, the Tsunayashiro family is still around and were the most influential and they were the original reason why the SK was mutilated out of fear, and there's still the other unknown family... If Ichigo really did end up becoming a SK vessel, getting the Almighty etc, it would really have to be his own choice like it was with the original SK, since it was shown that Ichibei can't do much against that power. Also, we've seen Mayuri kill Pernida, Aizen and Urahara create something that could elevate a being to SK level, along with the creation of Hikone in the novel, not to mention comparitively insignificant characters like Ginjou be referred to as a potential SK candidate, so it's hard to imagine Urahara wouldn't be able to engineer some sort of artificial SK replacement if he wanted to avoid this fate for Ichigo.
ichigo's potential as a Soul King vessel and the intricate dynamics of the noble families in the Soul Society make for an intriguing scenario. With the backing of Byakuya, Yoruichi, and possibly the Shiba family, ichigo could have a significant influence. Urahara's ingenuity and the existence of other powerful individuals further add to the possibilities. It would ultimately come down to ichigo's own choice and the limitations of Ichibei's power.
@@avechristusrex-23A dangerous thing to think about, the 2 smartest soul reapers joining forces. The crazy thing is it would be a small army joining their cause.
Is it possible that Ichigo could have become the soul king without being mutilated. In the manga when yuha absorbed the soul king he became the new soul king as was maintaining the balance between the worlds without being mutilated. So perhaps so long as ichigo stayed in the royal palace he could maintain the balance without being mutilated.
That’s what I’m saying, Knowing Ichigos character if they asked him he would most likely stay in the royal palace and keep the balance. Sure he would basically be stuck there unable to return to the human world, but he would still be alive and not mutilated. His friends and family could also visit him from time to time.
possible, but uncertain. The circumstances surrounding the role of the Soul King and the conditions for maintaining balance are not fully explored in the manga.
@@mufeezsyed2664Ichibei would have still wanted to dismember him out of fear. I hope that's when Aizen would have stepped in and war ensued between people who are on Ichigo's side and people who are not.
@@vb2806I believe that Ichibe having spent enough time around Ichigo, taking the advise of those closest to Ichigo not gone through with that. To help smooth things over, they could have allowed Orihime to be there with him as his queen
It so absolutely fascinating the message Kubo displays within Bleach compared to his peers. Where his peers told themes of revolution and great change. Bleach counters this by stating "In truth what you don't need is a great societal change in this messed up world, what you need is the courage to make the best of the world as that is about as good as it is going to get despite its twistedness." Aizen and Ywach were revolutionaries but what were ultimately the answers to replace the current system? Aizen had no answers, responding with optimism. Ywach wanted to take the universe back to its primordial state. Neither of those are actually answers. So what is one to do? Aizen remarks on what the answer is. Having come to at least understand why Urahara won't do anything. It's the best they got.
I don't think that's entirely true considering both the Soul Society and Fullbring arcs. In the Soul Society arc, Ichigo is challenging the status quo and tells Byakuya that in his position, he would fight to change the rules. And in the Fullbring arc, Hitsugaya says that they never would have restored Ichigo's power and it not been for how Ichigo had changed Soul Society. So it's less against revolution and great change and more about what type of change and how much.
Idk I don’t think Urahara or Shunsui would go along with Ichigo becoming the form of the soul king that previously existed. There’s too many times Ichigo has saved almost everyone in the Gotei. I think there definitely would be a rebellion and it’d basically be most if not all the Gotei. And those leading the charge would be Urahara, Shunsui, Zaraki, Renji, Byakuya, Isshin and possibly Aizen since his main motivation of even becoming a villain is because he didn’t agree with the reality of the soul kings current state
I like animes which antagonists has points. Like Samurai X, Kenshin recognize the defeating opponent is completely wrong just bec they lost in the battle.
People forget the soul king being all powerful allowed them to take his body apart like that. That was his choice. Doesn’t mean ichigo would do the same
My hypothetical sides in the Soul Society Civil War for Ichigo being The Soul King or maintaining his Freedom: Anti Soul King: Rukia Renji Byakuya Toshiro Rangiku Ikkaku Yumichika Kenpachi Grimmjow Neliel Pesche Dondochakka Hanataro Ururu Yoruichi Kūkaku Ganju Orihime Chad Uryu Shuhei Izuru Momo The Visoreds Isshin Ryuken Riruka Ginjo Aizen Pro Soul King: Shunsei (albeit reluctantly) Soi-Fon Omeda Mayui Tetsuzaemon Tessai Jinta Tokinada (further making Shunsei reluctant) Squad 0 Think Kisuke would be for it at first and slowly turn his back on pro Soul King to anti Soul King if he can find another way. This initial opposing sides would shake Yoruichi's friendship with Kisuke and being severely disappointed in Soi-Fon, which would drive Soi-Fon to hate Ichigo for that.
I have a feeling Tessai and those in the Urahara shop would be in the anti soul king camp. Tessai is Kisuke's bff and fellow exiled soul reaper captain
I don’t understand why Ichigio would have become mutilated as well. The Soul King was the Soul King before he got betrayed and after So why wouldn’t Ichigio be able to do it alive???
What’s frightening is that Ichibe’s initial plan could very well happen somewhere down the line Yhwach gets to become the replacement for the Soul King right now, but what if he gets erased for some reason? Time isn’t a variable since if Ichigo dies as a human, he’ll just go to the Soul Society So unless Ichigo prematurely dies not only as a human, but as a soul, Ichibe’s backup plan is still in motion regardless
Erased? Makes me think of the hell one-shot, Yhwach's power emerges and it seems like he's going to keep his promise to kill everyone in their happiest moment, but Ichigo's son touches some of it and it vanishes. Imagine if it did the same to the body being used as the SK and Kazui had damned his own father to be the replacement.
For all the reasons you state in your video, the ones you wanted to opt against Ichigo becoming the Soul King, are the same reason s I was all for it. It's a classic Shakespearean tragic ending. And I never saw Bleach ending any other way but tragically. I wanted to see the Gotei 13 fractured down the middle over Ichigo's impending mutilation and the rebellion you describe, which would lead Ichibei to become the final villain I expected him to be from day one, and lead to the much hypothesized "Rescue Ichigo" arc. In which the dismemberment ritual is underway, there's maybe a grace period where the ritual can be reversed (with a bit of Book of the End and Shun Shun Rikka glue), and it becomes a race against the clock to save SK!Ichigo from Ichibei and Zero Division. Come victory and successful rescue, Ichigo might have to remain in the royal realm but he'd at least have his liberty. Especially if Kukaku, Byakuya and Yoruichi lead the charge, it could almost be taken as them symbolically atoning for their ancestors's sins, and Ichigo fulfilling the vow of his ancestor by freeing the SK and taking his place. And with the conclusion of that battle, the Gotei 13's current form dissolves entirely, making way for a new institution that directly works with the Soul King, not abusing him as a figure heard. My alternative take was Ichibei was setting Ichigo in, gambling that Yhwach would absorb his powers (specifically Ichigo's Hollow) as a kind of trojan horse. Ichigo's power is basically an ames window, so even if Yhwach only wanted the Quincy aspect, the rest would be inexorable mixed in. And as Quincy souls evaporate when in contact with Hollow reiatsu, White would tear at Yhwach's soul like nobody's business, forcing Yhwach to devote more and more of his power to fuel the Almighty, constantly re-writing his future to keep himself alive staving off soul suicide. Then Ichibei swoops in, kill steals and seals Yhwach into the SK's throne using Ichigo's entire power and potential as the shackles, while keeping Yhwach imprisoned in an even worse state than his father. Even if Yhwach somehow manages to gather the will to escape on his own, his soul implodes thanks to White's presence within it. That ending would've had Ichigo permanently lose his powers forever more, since Ichibei literally stole them away to seal Yhwach, but everyone would grit their teeth and bare it.
In an alternate world where kubo made ichigo soul king it would have been cool if kubo threw us a curve ball and ichigo maintains his autonomy despite ichibei trying to do all the same things he did to the previous one only to be rebuked by ichigos power but he still decides to be the soul king and remain in the soul palace.
Are you sure it was a betrayal of the soul king. something I never got is why everyone says it's a betrayal when it could be that the soul king was fully aware of the plan of the Five Noble Houses and just went along with it because it provided more structure and safety for humanity. was it covered in the lite novels? I really need to get my hands on them.
That's what Ichibei speculates. The Soul King knew what they were doing, or what Tokinada's ancestor planned, and let it happen as he saw it to be the best of a bad situation. And likely because he knew Ichigo, a scion of the Shiba family, would eventually free him from that hell.
23:30 the question, to me, were the hollows in primordial worlds hurting humans or souls? We know there wasn't death, but it is stated that the unified world was about three realms: soul society, human world, hueco mundo. Not hell, though. Meaning there was still a wold unified AND hell, distintictly. Therefore, a sort of death could still be there, where if you were really bad you could get to hell, if not, you were staying there. question is if you would stay with suffering and in pain, after maybe suffer hollow's attack, or you would be able to stay safe and maybe heal.
in the unified world, it's unclear if hollow attacks caused harm to humans or souls, but it's possible that there was still a concept of punishment or suffering in hell for those who were truly wicked. Safety and healing in the unified world may have varied depending on one's actions and circumstances.
If ichigo became soul king he you'd be beyond the powers of ichibei so whats to stop ichigo from personally regulating the three dimensions and being like the soul king from before the three worlds
I mean, ichigo has trampled over traditions before, such as stopping rukia's execution, gaining bankai in 3 days, how his incomplete bankai looked like a regular zanpakuto
If Ichibe's plan is make Ichigo to be a Soul king what's reallu evil because it's dangerous for Ichigo but I know he's not die for it because Ichigo is the number one. 🌠
so I have not seen the ending in a while, The Soul King was dead right? he didn't miraculously regenerate after Ichigo sliced him in 2 and Ukitake died after getting the hand sucked out of him, so as vague as my memory is right now, there is no Soul King, I'm honestly shocked Ichibe did not use the Powerful godlike Aizen while he was unconscious, he'd get part of his wish to be the high god he wanted to be "though an Ironically dark version"
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Soul king ichigo , this is actually some scary shit!
This is sad.😢
I don't think you should say Manako Osho's name so casually Imran, don't blame him if you lose your throat😂
Ichigo noooo
All Reio wanted was to help and they wanted to do the same to Ichigo. F*ck Soul society
Ninja king in naruto:😊
Pirate king in one piece:😊
Soul king in bleach:🗿
God Emperor of Mankind: ☠️
Saiyan King in Dragon Ball: 😊
The Soul King position, unlike being a Kage or King of The Pirates, is a fate worst than death. Suck on that Voldemort, there really are fates far, far worst than death. What good is immortality if your freewill and limbs are robbed?
emperor of mankind status🗿
"Ichigo becomes the new Soul King"
Raiden: _"There are fates worse than death."_
With this revelation in mind, while Yhwach and Aizen are evil in how they treat others- they’re the lesser evil to those who performed the original sin and willing to continue to cover up the truth.
Unfortunately, the entire world was built through that original sin, so removing it kinda fucks everything. Like, Hollows would be freely roaming around with humans, concentrating souls as they gorged themselves and shit. It wasn't like the world before was a good thing, and the efforts of the Soul King to save people before he was trapped prove as much. They didn't have to do bro like that, but the separation of the primordial world to create some stability was kinda necessary, from what we know.
@@jablue4329absolute power corrupts absolutely, so no matter how righteous his rule was or could be, it would end up somehow toxic or evil. If we go off of the remnants of his body: he would be able to quite literally physically control you, endlessly revive, see the future, create whatever he wanted and so on.
No one person should have that much power. It was a hard choice but I would have done the same to seal the Soul King, even going so far as to become a jinchuuriki knock off and seal a piece within me if we had to, or become the next King if my reiatsu was dense enough.
I think Seireitei is worth that sacrifice. To let Aizen or Ywach seize control would be to repeat the cycle, not stop it, which is why Ichibe would rather sacrifice Ichi-tan and keep the worlds separate than let the balance wane.
Are referring to Tokinada? Tokinada just abused the state of the already corrupted Soul society.
We will never know how the world Aizen wanted would be like for the cause of one big sacrifice.
Yhwach was so afraid of death that he wanted to revert to the original world. He just wanted to live in the past. Like Aizen said if people aren't afraid of death anymore they'll never develop courage and move on in life.
Animals in captivity become dumber because they don't have to fear predators anymore.
Because all Reio wanted to help and look what happened to him. They honestly wanted to do the same although Ichigo would always come when called upon.
@@nailinthefashion Notice the pattern of major misfortune befalling those who try to do good while maintaining the system also results in bloodshed as Kisuke and Yoruichi can attest to, them having been killers for it in the past. Meanwhile those who try to force change also rarely have noble intentions if at all. The only real peace is ironically among the blissfully unaware humans, hollow attacks notwithstanding.
@@manuelacosta9463 that mirrors real life perfectly, with Democrats and Republicans both being greedy little demon parties.
Those who are lucky reside in the nice parts of Seireitei or the Human world and never have to deal with war or politics firsthand, but the majority of people are actively trained, working class or in Hueco Mundo and roughing it.
I empathize with Aizen moreso than Ywach because he has a slightly more noble air about him but I think both represent what happens when one's ideals run ahead of the truth around them.
Imagine how peaceful things would be if they accepted that they were not much better than those who came before? How our presidents in real life behave eerily the same? It's depressing but it's what has made Bleach my favourite anime of all time, it's felt very relevant yet fictional for over a decade. That's insane.
I'd definitely be an arrancar or vaizard on the sidelines, maybe even creating my own bubble reality where we dispute disagreements with silly games instead of all this needless violence. That is also insane.
They were really gonna turn our boy into dismembered torso with a head to keep the universe in place...man Bleach Lore is crazy.
imagine being 17y/o and realised that you're responsible for protecting 3 realms 💀💀 bruh the amount of burden...
But that's different when ichigo protects people it's by his own freewill and fights the villains while becoming the soul king is not by his choice and if he resists ichibei would either attack him or threaten his friends and family
As cruel as this may sound, it was probably for the best that Yamamoto lost, because with Shunsui at the helm, there may be a chance for actual positive change to occur within the Soul Society. He does seem to be more levelheaded and less strict than his predecessor.
Btw notice that Soul king allmighty has 4 pupils, Yuach has 3, while Pernida has two, Mimihagi 1. I think might be a scale of power there. And interesting Yuach wasn't actually as strong as his father (while Ichigo in the process of becoming soul king has 4 pupils)
Ichigo in the image had 5.
This could be a simple situation of races they exist as + 1 Iris for being transcendent. The soul king gave birth to 3 races.
interesting observation, The number of pupils might indeed represent a scale of power, and it's intriguing to note the differences between the Soul King, Yhwach, and other entities.
And Gerrard has none
Imagine if Ichibei and Kyoraku would bow down their heads to ask Ichigo if in the worst case scenario he would become the Soul king. He can still refuse but in this case it would have to be Aizen. The soul reapers would give him exactly what he always wanted.
Also do you think Aizen, Ginjo and Hikone would also have to go through the same spiritual corridor as Ichigo?
Aizen would never allow them to do to him what they did to the soul king and neither would he trust them. He knows the original sin. He wants to be soul king but not in that way. Its safer for them to go with ichigo that is why ichigo was chosen over aizen. Ichigo is far easier to trick. Aizen is too intelligent and crafty.
@@BigJohn303 I don't think they'd be able to kill and mutilate him. So they'd have to release him form the chair.
Nobody knows what Aizen would do if he'd be the new Soul King. Could Yhwach still try to overthrow him or give up?
@@Grayson-Winchester They are not going to let aizen rule without putting a leash on him. Something aizen would not allow and they know it.
@@BigJohn303 yes, but what would be the aftermath?
Ichigo and Yhwach would probably still fight but he cannot beat him alone
imagine if Ichibei and Kyoraku asked Ichigo to become Soul King, giving Aizen what he wanted. As for Aizen, Ginjo, and Hikone, they might have to go through the spiritual corridor like Ichigo, but it's uncertain.
I wonder who would rebel for Ichigo’s sake and who would stick to the status quo? Unfortunately, as much as I like him, I have to agree about Kisuke initially being displeased but relenting to the idea, but I’m confident he would be the most conflicted. I do think he truly cares for Ichigo. But he’s more loyal to the state of the world.
I’m certain his closest companions, Orihime, Chad, Uryu, his family (Isshin and the Shiba’s, and Ryuken by extension), Rukia, Renji, Byakuya, Kenpachi and his squad would rebel. I actually think Toshiro and Rangiku would rebel too, along with Shinji and the Visoreds.
I honestly think Yoruichi would be against this and Kisuke’s willingness to accept it would put a wedge between the 2, leading them to fight. The Fullbringers would side with Ichigo being free and of course Grimmjow and particularly Nel would be against this. God… I think even Aizen would fight for Ichigo like you said too 😅
That leaves Squad 0, Shunsui, Soifon, Squads 4, 7, 8 and 13, and Mayuri.
Despite the insurmountable odds of fighting Squad 0 plus the likes of Mayuri and Shunsui on the status quo side… I think Kisuke would be a tipping point. If he could be convinced (read: have some sense beaten into him) by Yoruichi to join the rebellion, I think him and Aizen with the rest of the rebels laid out could pull it off and save Ichigo.
What a fascinating (and unsettling 😅) scenario! Thanks for the video!
Nah yoruichi would not rebel. Because she knew about the soul societies original sin for awhile. She wanted to mind wipe hisagi without his consent because hisagi knew too much. I get you are a fan of hers but yeah she would be for it. Ofcourse she would NOT like it but she would be for it. Toshiro and rangiku is iffy.
No one will rebel, because all of them including ichigo will agree its for the best since ichigo was the only option they had (the soul king has to be a combination of all of the races quincy ,hollow and shinigami/human and is not like there is a bunch of those) what probably happen is that all of soul society will look of a way to make something to replace ichigo as the new soul king so he can be free (since the nobles only cut the old soul king into parts because they were afraid of him )
fascinating indeed, the dynamics and loyalties of the Bleach characters would definitely make for an intriguing and potentially intense scenario.
@@BigJohn303 - SHE KNEW??? Oh damn. Sorry, I only know the broad strokes of the novels. In that case… yeah… she would be on the status quo side… 😓
Funny enough, I was a tad iffy on Rangiku and Toshiro when writing that, but I feel like Rangiku’s closeness to Orihime might push them toward rebellion. But I’ll def grant you, they’re iffy.
@@SoyElBrokas - That’s a totally valid theory too! I feel like Kisuke (probably cuz I like him, so biased 😅) would look for a way to replace Ichigo ASAP. And that is true of the Soul King and th noble families. Maybe if Ichigo were to amicably agree to do it temporarily, there could be a peaceful transition
It would've been a nightmare especially given Ichigo's actions to save everyone. Him getting the ending he got is more fitting. Just goes to show how the ancestor's avarice continues to echo into the present with Ichibei still following their wishes. Not to mention the bloody cover up of the truth. The fact that even a psychopathic walking terror like Tokinada actually praised Ichigo for his heroic selflessness and lack of agenda beyond helping others is telling even for a maniac like him.
I'm so glad you do these videos Man. And the best part is you hardly miss a week. Keep up the good work 👍🏾.
I actually don't think Ichibei would mutilate Ichigo because the mutilation of the original Soul King was solely due to the Tsuniyashiro ancestor's paranoia about the original Soul King breaking out. Ichibei has no such fears about Ichigo and likes the kid in his own twisted way.
Maybe ichigo is SK but with free range, it could be possible, still we need kubo confirmation, but how much we need to wait, actualy how many years 😂😂😂😂
@@MyloAnton2 Ichigo would probably still be trapped, but his friends were all given Soul Tickets, so...
@@MrGksarathyu have a point there with soul tickets there, i watch the anime but also read it that part to, but we all read and saw the hell chapter, now, what we still need to wait and see is new hell chapter sequel
@@MrGksarathynah Ichibei would totally do it and he would very likely kill or imprison anyone who used the soul ticket in order to keep the secret. That jovial front he puts up is nothing more than a sham and the anime makes it pretty clear that nobody who knows him likes him, least of all the other members of the Royal Guard.
@@TenebraeXVII Maybe, but even then, Kyouraku has enough pull to even give the soul tickets, so he would likely push to allow Ichigo visitors, even if he can't out muscle our evil monk.
In any case, as I said before, Ichibei genuinely likes Ichigo in his own way due to his resemblance to the Shiba clan ancestor, and he doesn't fear Ichigo the way the ancestors feared the original. I feel the one "decency" Ichibei would extend to Ichigo would be to not mutilate him and maybe allow him some company.
It would become a massive civil war and possibly threaten the balance everyone wanted to correct. And if Ichigo woke up his Almighty before being weakened, he’d probably kill the Guard.
Hmmmm.. would be adorable if the kids had to save him bc squad 0 kidnap him and try to prepare him to be the next SK.
Imagine the little bankais 😭 I deeply hope he doesn't go the Boruto route and time skip. I wanna see more development around the soul king AND kids
civil war could threaten the balance, and Ichigo's awakened Almighty could pose a threat to the Guard.
Civil War? You mean ichigo, Chad, uryu vs everyone else? Urahara is his mentor and he would obviously team with the soul society lol. Oh yeah isshin would probably help ichigo. It would be the most lopsided fight ever.
@@brendondowdy5651 I'm thinking you're gonna get Kenpachi on Ichigo's side, Renji, Rukia, possibly Byakuya, and maybe another few captains. Once they know what it would mean, it would be terrifying. But then again, if Ichigo awakens The Almighty then he wouldn't be ableto be touched and that in and of itself could cause a war. It would depend on how it was written, but a civil war would be a fitting ending to the Soul Society given how it upheld the original sin; meaning we would have probably got the Hell arc sooner in the civil war fantasy.
@jamesw2831 remember byakuya and Kenny came to kill ichigo in the fullbring arc if he didn't go against ginjo. But at the end of the day there's only a few characters that would even matter. Obviously ichigo, ichibei, aizen, and squad zero are the heavy hitters and none of them would side with ichigo. Now aizen may not side with team ichibei so could turn into a free for all. I always felt like ichigo should've found out what ichibei had done with the SK and somehow saved Juha on accident and that's how ichibei loses.
It’s like Kubo saw every anime where the MC wants to be whatever equates to a “king” and thought “what if that’s actually a bad thing”.
That was a thing built from One Piece and Naruto mostly. It became such a big trope off their backs, and it's very clear Kubo had most of the important shit in Bleach planned out from the beginning. Ichigo being a hybrid of everything, and what that means for Ichigo and the rest of the world, at the very least. There was no way a trope like that made enough ripples for him to try and subvert it just 2 years after Naruto and One Piece released. Based on where they were roughly (chapter 104 at the latest not considering breaks or exact dates each series released), that trope didn't pick up steam even in their respective series. The Strawhat crew were just entering the Grand Line, and the Chunin Exams were just about to end in Naruto.
@@kalypso4133 While I believe Kubo had planned things better than most series, I doubt every little detail was meticulously planned from the start, some new ideas and changes would still come while writing throughout the story.
@@ghostspider2056 I didnt say every detail. Just the main stuff. Like I said, Ichigo being a hybrid of everything was hinted at very early and what that likely will mean for him and the world.
@@kalypso4133 I don’t know if there were any hints about him being also being part Quincy or Fullbring early on or that being a hybrid of all of them is related to the Soul King.
@@ghostspider2056 Part Quincy was hinted was really early. as soon as it was revealed his mother was killed by Grand Fisher. if Grand Fisher was after Ichigo, both would have died. So she had spiritual pressure, and next thing that happens is Uryu is introduced. No way that it wasnt intentional considering what was revealed in TYBW. Then we have him team up with his cousins during the Soul Society arc. Isshin is a Shiba and an uncle to Ganju and his sister. There was a lot hinted at like that. Actually, it was never officially said that they were in the series but Isshin was revealed as a Shiba officially in the manga.
12:45 ywach falling caught me off guard, i never laugh so hard, you're amazing 😂
What if the full potential of full release power of ichigo is him awakening his own almighty by mastering his full power abilities.
Since we are not sure if or when the hell arc in the manga will continue I think would be interesting if they gave us a hint in cor 4 with Ichibe saying something ominous like “so little Ichigo was not the one needed. Huh. I guess it was good that Ywach ended up the lynchpin”.
I know that’s basically what’s said in the novel but I think it would be great in the anime to aknowledge it!
Byakuya was also able to rebel against Tsukishimas Book of the End. Or should I say go against his own cousin for the sake of Ichigo. That's loyalty.
Yh and Aizen are a byproduct of the original sin. Ichibei is a disgusting cheat. The soul king never even resisted and yet they mutilated his body out of fear for a being not only helping them, but willing to become a martyr for them. Sick.
Bro is so powerful, his hand joined the other team in the war to fight against himself.
Do a Can't Fear Your Own World novel analysis!!
I get the feeling that if Ichigo ever became the Soul King and was cut up in the process, both OMZ and Hollow Ichigo would manifest themselves outside of the Zanpakuto to stand guard for Ichigo. Even Ichigo's fullbring might manifest itself into a physical form.
his fullbring is his soul king piece so it doesn't have a from since it is ichigo.
@@sarthakarora3212 Wait. What do you mean it IS Ichigo? I imagined it would be some kinda weird Swastika monster or something.
@@johnjackson9751Fullbringers are humans who gained power throughout their childhood via Soul King fragment being in their soul. It worked like the hogyoku granting them one desire in their heart. Which manifested into the abilities they now have.. get it?
@@greengarnish1711 I get it. What I mean is I expect that fragment of Ichigo to come alive in the same way Pernida and Mimihagi did
@@johnjackson9751 Well i don't know how that would play out. It's just really a part of his soul just like Zangetsu is.
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Honestly ichigo is too good and innocent for his own good while he was trying save the soul reapers incompetent asses ichibei was sending him to his dead fully knowing he can't defeat Yhwach and to make things worse he was planning to use ichigo as a meat replacement for soul king ichibei and the soul reapers are lower than scam and don't deserve ichigo
I love the idea of Aizen stepping into to protect ichigo from becoming the soul king. I’ve always loved the idea of villains turning into Allie’s as long is it makes sense and is played well. Aizen seems to hold some sort of respect for ichigo and ichigo seems to care about Aizen to an extent. Especially since he screamed out Aizen name when he was stab through the chest by ywach arm. I could never hate Aizen cause I agree with him to an extent, besides his narcissistic tendencies he really did not what the soul king was and was appalled by such a fate for anyone.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I keep forgetting about him tbh but he's the only one I can think of outside of squad 0 with reiatsu dense enough to become a stable SK. I think Ywach is too corrupt to allow it long term and probably has some sort of failsafe or plan at work to undo it since he could prob see this future.
Also, Aizen loves to sit and watch. He's been super happy in the pit as long as things are peaceful, oddly so. I think he's reformed and will politely ask Uryu if it's possible to swap him and Ichi-tan's places. Maybe doing a little cup game of Uryu swapping with Ichi-tan then Aizen.
Something simple like that would be so beautiful to finally end on, but I know the Hell arc is gonna be insane. I've been theorizing there must be more secret realms for over a decade lmao
a fascinating idea indeed, with Aizen stepping in to protect Ichigo from becoming the Soul King. Villains turning into allies can be intriguing if done well, and Aizen does seem to have a complex relationship with Ichigo. It's understandable to empathize with Aizen's perspective on the Soul King.
I think Aizen truly likes Ichigo, plus he is against all this crap. I think he will somehow step up and then him and Ichigo can defeat Ichbei and put him with Yhwach after cutting his limbs so he can remain there for eternity.
That makes a lot of sense, idk if it was this channel that made the theory of the hogyoku leaving aizen bc he was lonely at the top and didn't want the power anymore and Ichigo is what made him realize that being the one to finally take him down from the pedestal he now realizes he does not want to actively hold power in. At least that's the most logical reason that came to my head
How can you not hate Aizen after what he did to Hinamori 😂
Kubo better stop his favoritism for the soul reapers and show them as the real evil of the story in hell Arc and doesn't Butcher the new faction like he did to the Quincys for the sake of making soul reapers look good
There's a theory floating around the fact that powerful Shinigami end up in hell and Soul Society's nobility know nothing but shallow greed/paranoid conflict is cosmic karma getting even with them over their ancestor's past actions. We will see what happens but it certainly won't be good. Unsurprising though.
I… really should read the novels. I’m still confused as to how Fullbringers have Soul King fragments in them 🙃 didn’t know Ginjo was a Soul King candidate either wtf, great video!
I don't see how a soul king couldn't just maintain the balance while being alive...
He can but the royal family were afraid of him and proceeds to mutilate him
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No way Ichibe would be able to force Ichigo to become Soul King. Chad would never allow it.
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Bro a pls a prediction vid on events of cour 3 like additional stuff prediction or events and honestly cour 3 will be the best cour if it dropped anytime in 2024. And also keep up the good work 😁
12:45 Actually, in chapter 574 of the manga, when Gremmy raises the giant structure that he and Kenpachi were standing on, one of the Shinigami from Squad 11 points out that they didn't sense Kenpachi's spiritual pressure until the structure went up.
Cause he transcended, it's a measure of power mix of races are have their own names. Imran got it wrong. Soul king candidates have potential to transcend by training, aizen and ginjo are quincy and under yhwach's powers cause only quincy can become soul kings.
Thing is those are foot soldiers. Most transcendent being show capabilities of not being detected by even captain class. Or else are normal shinigami transcendent because they're untraceable by humans.
You're THE best Bleach content creator.
Let’s be real Ichigo has no interest in being the soul king, Ichigo is not the kind of guy to abandon his family,friends and his wife and kid.
Truth. Imagine the great schism it would've caused between those who wish to keep the status quo vs those who oppose Ichigo being made a mutilated puppet for its sake, humble savior that he is. Ichigo is a powerhouse but unlike many others he never let it go to his head.
I think he's one of if not the only one with reiatsu dense enough though, so it would be interesting to see if they aren't left with a choice how that plays out. The Gotei 13 vs squad 0 would be SICK
true, ichigo values his family, friends, and loved ones too much to abandon them for the role of the soul king.
@@Suto_Koand knowing Orihime she is not ready to be a single mother.
yep, Orihime might not be prepared to be a single mother.@@TheBlackOtaku
7:25 you assume when ichigo become soul king they could able to do same thing they done to previous soul king to him. That is a biiiiig baseless assumption. Especially when you consider ichigo changed the soul society big time and what they done to previous king done because of their fear. Plus he is main character and have amazing plot armour
I love your content and I love how the way you broke this down in ways I can fully understand it better, now that you explained this so well it make me want to rewatch Bleach again and rethink everything that I've watched in this entire series growing up throughout my childhood that I wouldn't expect.
You gotta give Tite Kubo credit for putting this much effort in not just the design, but the character development and the story itself and how and where it takes place.
But this whole thing is just tragic and mind-blowing to begin with, I wouldn't expect Ichigo to the next Soul King.
And make me think that Sosuke Aizen and Yhwach Bach were the true heroes all along, but went about it in the wrong way.
But I respect them for actually doing something about it that most won't, even if the whole world is against them.
But I really your videos keep uploading these they're entertaining and educational as well 😊.
read the novels to actually understand the full lore: no ichibei is neutral he dosent want to kill ichigo but he will seal him if he has to, he prepared ichigo (because he is one of the few in the universe that can take the soul king's place) as a last resort in case everything else fails , aizen didnt knew that the soul king holds no power at all (going for him instead of the nobles ),yhwach dont understand that it was the soul king knew what the nobles were going to do to him and still he decided to be sealed (he had the all mighty but in a way stronger version and saw everything) also yhwach lies about his real motives , he wants to kill the soul king to return the worlds to the form they were before and destroy the cycle of death and rebirth because he is afraid of dying but he dosent know (more of what he dont want to understand) that the soul king sacrificed himself so they cam escape a destiny way way worse than death thats why ichibei see him as a kid because he is acting like one.
I think Aizen knows from the conversation with Urahara while being sealed.
The soul society isnt a good entity. That'a what makes Bleach great. The villains won.
😂 mane the death gods ( soul reapers ) just fuck everything up and make bad decisions that cause harm to everyone just for “ balance “ wym 😂 so they just sacrificing the one guy that’s saved they asses everytime yea that’s a good plan and use him forever and chop him up as a gift 😂 you right the villains won and ichigo ain’t even know he’s on the evil side 😂 lol that’s why they opened hells gates in now it’s even worse yhwach was tryna save y’all just like irl Jesus saved us but noo y’all wanna chose the demon gods tuff
There is something nuclear with the reasoning of the video, because the whole issue regarding becoming the soul King is to that it would ''tourn you into a living corpse''.
However, the fact that he is a corpse is due to the Royal families who dismembered the king because they feared his power. However today Ichigo has many supporters including among the heads of the Royal families.
We know that the dismemberment was not mandatory, and I could see a world where it is not done because people trust Ichigo.
Amazing video! It comes down to the fear of Ichigo gaining too much power and restricting his freedom. They don’t have to mutilate the soul king to maintain the three worlds separate, but doing so assured that there was no way the Soul King could ever escape of his own volition be it Rei-o, Ichigo or Yhwach. The true sin and betrayal is taking away their freedom of choice and forcing them to live in static space for eternity.
If Ichigo became the soulking his heart will definitely become a kindhearted and virtuous hero who travels across the plains
On Aizen’s transcendence, I believe the initial butterflaizen form was a Quincy Holy Form, then the second monstrous butterflaizen form added a third race to the mix with hollowification. Aizen did have three holes and three eyes in his design, hinting at three races worth of transcendence, substantially less than Ichigo’s five pupil’d almighty
Ichigo never got the all mighty , the soul king was using his power to show ichigo visions of the past and that was reflected on ichigo's eyes also aizen didnt got a quincy or hollow form he evolved something that is a totaly diferent since he wanted to trancend all limits of a shinigami so he probably was becoming a totaly new thing but he was still a only shinigami thats also why he wasent a posible replacement for the soul king (since you need to have one of two things :1)absorb the old soul king's power like yhwach or 2) have a combination of the 3 races in you.
@@SoyElBrokas uh… I think you missed the point a bit. Aizen stated the hogyoko worked by melting down the barriers between races, later information told us that this worked because the hogyoko contained a fragment of the Soul King and therefore had a fusion of all the races built into it to work as a template. Aizen had stated that his initial post-cocoon form had one layer of transcendence and his monster butterfly form was able to perceive Dangai Ichigo, if barely. (At the time Ichigo had yet to gain access to his fullbringer powers and had to leave his human body behind to become a shinigami, so he likely had access to 3 races worth of power prior to entering his mugetsu form with all of his latent powers unleashed). So my prior post was postulating that the three races Aizen had fused together within himself were Shinigami>Quincy>Hollow in that order, rather than the commonly accepted Shinigami>Hollow>more Hollow??
As for Ichigo, he was only a soul king candidate, but he did have five pupils showing when he was on the verge of awakening the soul king powers/potential within himself, which tells us he would have been a fusion of five races as a soul king. (Human, fullbringer, Quincy, Shinigami, Hollow).
Yhwach had three pupils in his eyes, and had human, quincy and fullbringer (shrift) powers
Pernida had two pupils in his eyes, representing quincy and fullbringer (shrift) powers
While the other hand of the soul king had merely one eye representing shinigami powers.
Also, Aizen mentioned himself that he had went from a 4d shinigami to a 5d then a 6d being… so there should have been two additional races mixed in by his own logic, not just the obvious hollowification when he formed the trio of hollow holes (Gin blasting a hole in Aizen was *not* hollowification, I believe Aizen would know if it were and do not believe he was lying about that)
interesting theory, Aizen's transcendence indeed incorporated elements of Quincy and Hollow powers, and the design choices of three holes and three eyes could be symbolic of the three races involved. The contrast with Ichigo's five-pupil almighty is intriguing.
@@Suto_Ko thank you, he also had three eyes upon his head and three extra heads upon his wings, but the wing eyes only had two eyes, so he was just one pupil short of six (which would have almost perfectly lined up with the almighty pupils Yhwach had, just split across more eyes)
That would actually be a really good story though trying to save Ichigo an exacting revenge
If a rebellion did form because of Ichigo becoming the Soul King, then obviously the Vizards, Rukia, Renji, Byakuya, Squad 11, Toshiro, Rangiku, Hisagi(?) would go against Soul Society.
No one really ,because all of them including ichigo will agree its for the best since ichigo was the only option they had (the soul king has to be a combination of all of the races quincy ,hollow and shinigami/human) what probably happen is that all of soul society will look of a way to make something to be new soul king and replace ichigo
@@SoyElBrokas I’d say they have Mayuri/Kisuke make a clone of Ichigo to fill in.
@@SoyElBrokasnah you are wrong, I think those are the exact people who will go against zero division and would be outclassed Until.... Aizen turns the tide of the battle. Headcanon here, now due to his Hogyoku he not only possesses immense power but he can transform the members of soul society like he did with arrancar, giving the vizards, Rangiku, Byakuya and Rukia a much needed power boost.
If he reaches that status it would follow in charcter to bequeath power unto mutiple entites essentially doing what was done to the soul king but knowingly and directed so currect beings will also be elevated to represent/govern/maintain different realms. Lessening Ichigos overall power and keeping him as a lynch pin without needing to desicrate his form. He has reach the point of seeing sometimes cruelty is the greatest kindness and vice/versa, the way Shunsui and Urahara do, but hes still got the noble hero streak that would have him just wrecking plans that rely on sacrificing innocents.
2.01 you missed Hollow. His bankai is basically a hollow.
Ichibe is the definition of "for the sake of peace I will sacrifice a teenager to balance the worlds"
I think we are due for another civil war arc in Bleach, personally.
After the TYBW finishes they should make a movie about the civil war for ichigo if they try and make him the soul king. It would be really interesting for sure.
I am under the belief that The Soul King chose his fate. I also believe he transcended his physical form. Squad zero speak of him in the preset context. Like Ichigo believes in what's better for the many is more important of the one.
I always imagine that it isnt necessary to mutilate Ichigo, the "Noble" houses only did it to the original one because they were frightened of his power, but given that the leaders of 3 of the 5 noble houses know of Ichigo and are good friends with him, i dont imagine that the current generation would sign off on another mutilation, and while i imagine that the Gotei would reluctantly agree to make Ichigo into the new soul king for the security of the realms, i dont think that they would be fine with having him get chopped up for no real reason.
True also ichigo was more of last resort type of plan ,ichibei did it just in case everything else fails
yeah, it's unlikely that Ichigo would need to be mutilated to become the Soul King, especially considering his relationships with the leaders of the noble houses and the Gotei.
Is ichibe partially transcendent? In his fight vs Ywach. When ichibe releases his Shaka his power is so high that Ywach couldn’t comprehend it
You know how epic it would be to see the Soul Society against itself. Especially versus the Zero Squad. A theory video of that would be cool, but what if there's something like about but instead of Ichigo, someone else that could be a new candidate. What if his son felt like he had to turn on him. That would be wild.
Honestly, if Ichigo was made the Soul King, I think Rukia and Renji (and maybe even Byakuya) would probably revolt against the Shinigami, or at least quit. I just don't think there's any way they could continue to serve the organization that did that to their friend. It's a harsh truth that for all his strength and heroism, Ichigo is just a cog in a machine that doesn't care about him.
Damn imagine a shinigami civil war arc and the antagonist are shunsui,urahara, and ichibei
I don't think Urahara would be the enemy. I think it would be Shunsui and the zero division vs soul reapers including Aizen. When all hope is lost, Aizen and Urahara will come up with a plan to beat Ichibei and replace him as the corpse that holds the worlds.
It might be revealed later that other pieces of him were his body parts but the Hogyoku was made from fragments of his consciousness
Theres no way Ywach doesnt in some sense care for Ichigo who is himself a quincy.
He does care tho in the final battle the amount of times yhwach begged ichigo to not stand in his way and ichigo being ichigo yhwaxh proceeds to whoop his ass😂
@@mufeezsyed2664 That's what I'm saying. Been a few years since I read the manga so I didn't recall this exact moment, but I knew there was something in there lol.
Are we talking about the same Yhwach who sacrificed his army and loyal right hand man Haschwalth in order to power up his auswahlen
Ngl that would be a mad fire arc, imagine ichigo being imprisoned and when the revelations of what will happen to him are revealed to everyone and all out war happens where where everyone has to pick a side. Just imagine all the tension where everyone has to decide whether they follow their duty or what they feel us write. For one Byakuya would be an interesting character for this one as head of the Kuchiki clan
Amazing Bleach video as always
AMAZING !!!!!
It makes me wonder what would actually happen if it went this way, considering the noble families are the real rulers of the Soul Society and Ichigo could very well have the backing of Byakuya and Yoruichi (and her brother would probably do what she says) and Ichigo's a direct descendant of the Shiba (although they lost their position). At this point in time, the Tsunayashiro family is still around and were the most influential and they were the original reason why the SK was mutilated out of fear, and there's still the other unknown family... If Ichigo really did end up becoming a SK vessel, getting the Almighty etc, it would really have to be his own choice like it was with the original SK, since it was shown that Ichibei can't do much against that power. Also, we've seen Mayuri kill Pernida, Aizen and Urahara create something that could elevate a being to SK level, along with the creation of Hikone in the novel, not to mention comparitively insignificant characters like Ginjou be referred to as a potential SK candidate, so it's hard to imagine Urahara wouldn't be able to engineer some sort of artificial SK replacement if he wanted to avoid this fate for Ichigo.
ichigo's potential as a Soul King vessel and the intricate dynamics of the noble families in the Soul Society make for an intriguing scenario. With the backing of Byakuya, Yoruichi, and possibly the Shiba family, ichigo could have a significant influence. Urahara's ingenuity and the existence of other powerful individuals further add to the possibilities. It would ultimately come down to ichigo's own choice and the limitations of Ichibei's power.
I do wonder about the 'no life and death' thing, because what role did Hell play? It existed before the separation.
It’s crazy that if ichigo was forced to become the soul king aizen would help him while urahara is on the side saying it’s the only way.
It shows that morality is twisted in world of bleach
Of course aizen would help him. After all ichigo is his favorite science project. So of course aizen would have something to say about that 😂
@@avechristusrex-23A dangerous thing to think about, the 2 smartest soul reapers joining forces. The crazy thing is it would be a small army joining their cause.
Ngl this what if seems really cool. But what if Ishida had the Almighty or the Balance or even the X-Axis?
This is the best place to say this. If the blade and ichigo are the same isn't it ichigo protecting himself.
Just being an existence can be created does not mean it should be.
Is it possible that Ichigo could have become the soul king without being mutilated. In the manga when yuha absorbed the soul king he became the new soul king as was maintaining the balance between the worlds without being mutilated. So perhaps so long as ichigo stayed in the royal palace he could maintain the balance without being mutilated.
It is possible sice the original clan were afraid of sk powers so they planned it and butchered the sk just for safety precautions
That’s what I’m saying, Knowing Ichigos character if they asked him he would most likely stay in the royal palace and keep the balance. Sure he would basically be stuck there unable to return to the human world, but he would still be alive and not mutilated. His friends and family could also visit him from time to time.
possible, but uncertain. The circumstances surrounding the role of the Soul King and the conditions for maintaining balance are not fully explored in the manga.
@@mufeezsyed2664Ichibei would have still wanted to dismember him out of fear. I hope that's when Aizen would have stepped in and war ensued between people who are on Ichigo's side and people who are not.
@@vb2806I believe that Ichibe having spent enough time around Ichigo, taking the advise of those closest to Ichigo not gone through with that. To help smooth things over, they could have allowed Orihime to be there with him as his queen
This would’ve been an interesting final arc.
Damn my boy been real sense day one and still is they trying to play him behind his back Ichigo come on now
It so absolutely fascinating the message Kubo displays within Bleach compared to his peers.
Where his peers told themes of revolution and great change. Bleach counters this by stating "In truth what you don't need is a great societal change in this messed up world, what you need is the courage to make the best of the world as that is about as good as it is going to get despite its twistedness."
Aizen and Ywach were revolutionaries but what were ultimately the answers to replace the current system?
Aizen had no answers, responding with optimism.
Ywach wanted to take the universe back to its primordial state.
Neither of those are actually answers. So what is one to do? Aizen remarks on what the answer is. Having come to at least understand why Urahara won't do anything.
It's the best they got.
I don't think that's entirely true considering both the Soul Society and Fullbring arcs. In the Soul Society arc, Ichigo is challenging the status quo and tells Byakuya that in his position, he would fight to change the rules. And in the Fullbring arc, Hitsugaya says that they never would have restored Ichigo's power and it not been for how Ichigo had changed Soul Society.
So it's less against revolution and great change and more about what type of change and how much.
Idk I don’t think Urahara or Shunsui would go along with Ichigo becoming the form of the soul king that previously existed. There’s too many times Ichigo has saved almost everyone in the Gotei. I think there definitely would be a rebellion and it’d basically be most if not all the Gotei. And those leading the charge would be Urahara, Shunsui, Zaraki, Renji, Byakuya, Isshin and possibly Aizen since his main motivation of even becoming a villain is because he didn’t agree with the reality of the soul kings current state
Ichibe is like He who remains
and Ichigo is about to be Loki holding the realms together.
I wish this became an arc of its own
TBH, I’m pretty sure Ichigo would become the SK by his own will. For his friends and for the sake of reality.
I like animes which antagonists has points. Like Samurai X, Kenshin recognize the defeating opponent is completely wrong just bec they lost in the battle.
Dude forgot hollow and replaced it with human💀
Ichigo is driven by the plot, that would be a perfectly befitting occupation for him
People forget the soul king being all powerful allowed them to take his body apart like that. That was his choice. Doesn’t mean ichigo would do the same
12:12 you just said "Beyond the Boundary". XD
My hypothetical sides in the Soul Society Civil War for Ichigo being The Soul King or maintaining his Freedom:
Anti Soul King:
Rukia
Renji
Byakuya
Toshiro
Rangiku
Ikkaku
Yumichika
Kenpachi
Grimmjow
Neliel
Pesche
Dondochakka
Hanataro
Ururu
Yoruichi
Kūkaku
Ganju
Orihime
Chad
Uryu
Shuhei
Izuru
Momo
The Visoreds
Isshin
Ryuken
Riruka
Ginjo
Aizen
Pro Soul King:
Shunsei (albeit reluctantly)
Soi-Fon
Omeda
Mayui
Tetsuzaemon
Tessai
Jinta
Tokinada (further making Shunsei reluctant)
Squad 0
Think Kisuke would be for it at first and slowly turn his back on pro Soul King to anti Soul King if he can find another way. This initial opposing sides would shake Yoruichi's friendship with Kisuke and being severely disappointed in Soi-Fon, which would drive Soi-Fon to hate Ichigo for that.
I have a feeling Tessai and those in the Urahara shop would be in the anti soul king camp. Tessai is Kisuke's bff and fellow exiled soul reaper captain
I don’t understand why Ichigio would have become mutilated as well.
The Soul King was the Soul King before he got betrayed and after
So why wouldn’t Ichigio be able to do it alive???
I always found it weird that we see the left and right arms of the soul king, but never the legs.
What’s frightening is that Ichibe’s initial plan could very well happen somewhere down the line
Yhwach gets to become the replacement for the Soul King right now, but what if he gets erased for some reason?
Time isn’t a variable since if Ichigo dies as a human, he’ll just go to the Soul Society
So unless Ichigo prematurely dies not only as a human, but as a soul, Ichibe’s backup plan is still in motion regardless
Erased? Makes me think of the hell one-shot, Yhwach's power emerges and it seems like he's going to keep his promise to kill everyone in their happiest moment, but Ichigo's son touches some of it and it vanishes. Imagine if it did the same to the body being used as the SK and Kazui had damned his own father to be the replacement.
For all the reasons you state in your video, the ones you wanted to opt against Ichigo becoming the Soul King, are the same reason s I was all for it. It's a classic Shakespearean tragic ending. And I never saw Bleach ending any other way but tragically.
I wanted to see the Gotei 13 fractured down the middle over Ichigo's impending mutilation and the rebellion you describe, which would lead Ichibei to become the final villain I expected him to be from day one, and lead to the much hypothesized "Rescue Ichigo" arc. In which the dismemberment ritual is underway, there's maybe a grace period where the ritual can be reversed (with a bit of Book of the End and Shun Shun Rikka glue), and it becomes a race against the clock to save SK!Ichigo from Ichibei and Zero Division.
Come victory and successful rescue, Ichigo might have to remain in the royal realm but he'd at least have his liberty. Especially if Kukaku, Byakuya and Yoruichi lead the charge, it could almost be taken as them symbolically atoning for their ancestors's sins, and Ichigo fulfilling the vow of his ancestor by freeing the SK and taking his place.
And with the conclusion of that battle, the Gotei 13's current form dissolves entirely, making way for a new institution that directly works with the Soul King, not abusing him as a figure heard.
My alternative take was Ichibei was setting Ichigo in, gambling that Yhwach would absorb his powers (specifically Ichigo's Hollow) as a kind of trojan horse. Ichigo's power is basically an ames window, so even if Yhwach only wanted the Quincy aspect, the rest would be inexorable mixed in. And as Quincy souls evaporate when in contact with Hollow reiatsu, White would tear at Yhwach's soul like nobody's business, forcing Yhwach to devote more and more of his power to fuel the Almighty, constantly re-writing his future to keep himself alive staving off soul suicide.
Then Ichibei swoops in, kill steals and seals Yhwach into the SK's throne using Ichigo's entire power and potential as the shackles, while keeping Yhwach imprisoned in an even worse state than his father. Even if Yhwach somehow manages to gather the will to escape on his own, his soul implodes thanks to White's presence within it.
That ending would've had Ichigo permanently lose his powers forever more, since Ichibei literally stole them away to seal Yhwach, but everyone would grit their teeth and bare it.
In an alternate world where kubo made ichigo soul king it would have been cool if kubo threw us a curve ball and ichigo maintains his autonomy despite ichibei trying to do all the same things he did to the previous one only to be rebuked by ichigos power but he still decides to be the soul king and remain in the soul palace.
Are you sure it was a betrayal of the soul king. something I never got is why everyone says it's a betrayal when it could be that the soul king was fully aware of the plan of the Five Noble Houses and just went along with it because it provided more structure and safety for humanity. was it covered in the lite novels? I really need to get my hands on them.
That's what Ichibei speculates. The Soul King knew what they were doing, or what Tokinada's ancestor planned, and let it happen as he saw it to be the best of a bad situation. And likely because he knew Ichigo, a scion of the Shiba family, would eventually free him from that hell.
We need a evil Urahara Arc.. That man really would wreck the verse i could imagine Kenpachi killing blow up uraharas😂😂
Our boy...
They wanted my boy ichigo to be just piece of meat that stables the realms
Aizen would definitely side with Ichigo in that potential civil war. I think Shinji and Kenny would too.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Ichibei goes after Kazui eventually
23:30 the question, to me, were the hollows in primordial worlds hurting humans or souls? We know there wasn't death, but it is stated that the unified world was about three realms: soul society, human world, hueco mundo. Not hell, though. Meaning there was still a wold unified AND hell, distintictly. Therefore, a sort of death could still be there, where if you were really bad you could get to hell, if not, you were staying there. question is if you would stay with suffering and in pain, after maybe suffer hollow's attack, or you would be able to stay safe and maybe heal.
in the unified world, it's unclear if hollow attacks caused harm to humans or souls, but it's possible that there was still a concept of punishment or suffering in hell for those who were truly wicked. Safety and healing in the unified world may have varied depending on one's actions and circumstances.
If ichigo became soul king he you'd be beyond the powers of ichibei so whats to stop ichigo from personally regulating the three dimensions and being like the soul king from before the three worlds
I mean, ichigo has trampled over traditions before, such as stopping rukia's execution, gaining bankai in 3 days, how his incomplete bankai looked like a regular zanpakuto
If Ichibe's plan is make Ichigo to be a Soul king what's reallu evil because it's dangerous for Ichigo but I know he's not die for it because Ichigo is the number one. 🌠
Urahara makes way more sense he directly deals with most of the story
I wonder if old man zangetsu/ywach knew about this then what about his true zanpaktou zangetsu/inner hollow? Did he know about this as well?
I wonder what would happen if ichigo gets some powers of the soul king
I just know if ichibei went after ichigo byakuya would have been on straight pack watch. He wasnt gone win but still
so I have not seen the ending in a while, The Soul King was dead right? he didn't miraculously regenerate after Ichigo sliced him in 2 and Ukitake died after getting the hand sucked out of him, so as vague as my memory is right now, there is no Soul King, I'm honestly shocked Ichibe did not use the Powerful godlike Aizen while he was unconscious, he'd get part of his wish to be the high god he wanted to be "though an Ironically dark version"