Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on PC - The Good and the Bad
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To be fair those numbers should've been way higher! A few things held this game back:
1) No GTX cards. This is a big one, considering more than 50% of gamers still game on old hardware. Excluding this huge demographic was a major blow that cost them at least half of their sales. Me included, I have a 1080, I still bought it on sale to support SE since I was going to buy it anyways and plan to upgrade eventually, but I imagine most people won't.
2) Late release. Self-explanatory, a lot of people already bought and played this on PS5, also most of these people won't bother double dipping since most people don't.
3) Other issues. SE really needs a fully dedicated PC team to optimize all their games!
1. I had to Buy a rtx4090 on sale to play it, all other games including FF7R, Stranger of Paradise and FFXVI i played on my Buisness laptop with an Vega8 and on my PC with an Gtx1650 (but guess was time for an upgrade)
2.most PS5 owners either don´t have an PC or an very old one , so i don´t think think that the Owning a PS5 make a big Impact on the sales
3.I agree some games run not that Good on PC as they did on consoles and even if it runs good its mostly on Low Gaming almost business PC/Laptops (best example is FF13 at it release on my old PC it did work perfectly fine but others with a high end or mid class PC had problems
the game is PS5 exclusive. at one point developer have to drop support for old hardware. when game start being develop exclusively for PS4 we start seeing those older DX9/DX10 GPU are being left out.
@ all DX12 GPU s are Left out even those who are superior to DX12ultimate cards
while i agree that its okay to not run on Vega 8 or Gtx1650 but if you have something better than you need but it still can´t run , then a game developer does something wrong
@@ChrisAtheist at one point development have to let go of supporting older architecture. just like DX11 vs DX12. eventually game development will only focus on DX12 only.
@@arenzricodexd4409 the problem i was talking about is, You bought a new released GPU or Gaming Laptop and suddenly a few months or a year later your almost new GPU/Gaming Laptop are not working with new games.
what do you think why Indiana Jones and Alan wake 2 run now on lower hardware without DX12 Ultimate ? because they noticed that most of their consumers still have an Only DX12 cards or notebooks .
in my case it was time to get a new GPU (even thought my GTX1650 can still play every non DX12 Ultimate game in low graphic settings) but my PC was old others just got a GPU which has better performance than a RTX and yet can´t play ,this is a problem SE should have seen coming espically if we consider most gamers GPU is much better than an PS5´s GPU and yet can´t play it
It runs fine on 1650, i been pushing it on 60fps it dip for sure like thats really common in my years of playing games on a budget
Thats say a lot they made the game exclusive on the ps5.
It runs on unreal engine 4 which older console still supports but they made a adjustments to make it work on older consoles.
I was kind of pissed when it runned on a 1650 meaning it could run on the ps4 if they wanted to.
I dont know pretty much about direct x since majority of the people points out that is the cause on why it wonT run on older carss.
PS4 hardware does not have support for DX12U feature. the game is exclusive to PS5. it is based on RDNA 2 hardware. AMD RDNA2 hardware are fully compliant with DX12 ultimate spec. nvidia have hardware compliant with DX12 ultimate with their 20 series (turing) that come out in 2018. the 16 series is also based on turing. the only thing that 16 series lack in term of DX12U support is RT accelerated hardware. else the 16 series have proper support for all DX12U.
I’m running on a 2070 laptop and it’s going really well. I have no real complaints
Ooooh, a time traveller! You have a laptop from 2070?? What's it like?
I have 5800x3d and 3080ti. overall, I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. It's not flawless as I did encounter stutters in like one or two scenes in my 30hrs play time so far. One thing I can guarantee is, this is waaay better than what you can experience even on PS5 Pro.
Let's see what happens with Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PC Release!!!!!!!!!
If that ever happens at this point😂
imagine wanting to play that slop
Cringe
and Bloodborne.
Brother you need a better mic or audio. You got the following to warrant it!
AMD user here yeah it’s kind of sucks a little bit for me for no fsr support but I do plan to install the mod later currently I’m dealing with some type of ghosting while playing with the game which I was hoping FSR would help fix it but it’s not there so I may have to do some tweaking to get rid of it
Im using a Rx7800xt for 1440p and I average between 75 to 80fps at Max settings
Square Enix posted on X (twitter) an AMD driver update for Rebirth but the known issues sound worse so i think i'll wait for a more stable driver.
For frame gen i'm using Lossless Scaling from steam.
Disable Fluid motion frames and Radeon Super Resolution. It's caused by the extra frames injected. I play it at 60 Max Settings on 1080p on a RX 6600
I do not have super resolution and extra frame injected on it’s probably my monitor. I have to either reduce my hz which I have it on 144 Hz to meet the frame rate. Or AMD drivers graphics drivers (which so far has been good. Don’t give me that AMD drivers a bad anybody who reads i’ve had Nvidia driver issues before ) which I’ve done this before recently I had a previous issue with my HDR not work and I had to reinstall my drivers to fix it. And thank you for your suggestions.
@@sacredemerald70 ah ok, yeah, I said those because that was what happened to me. And yeah, I've never had driver issues with my gpu
@@anivmoreno9612 that’s honestly good to hear. I’m kind of pretty much still somewhat new with the AMD driver since I first started off with Nvidia cards. I’ve only had my card for. About four months and so far I’ve been having a great time with it and I feel better buying this then my RTX 4080 absolute regret it
This game reminded me that there isnt a single streamer that is worth trusting. Not a single streamer talked about the stuttering issues and I doubt every single streamer had flawless gameplay. They just failed to mention it so they can continue shilling for company x.
The Stutter issue is not a universal problem. I did encounter it but only like once or twice on my 30hrs play time so far. I have 5800x3d and 3080ti. overall, I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. Waaay better than what you can experience even on PS5 Pro.
The performance is terrible, it took me 2 days of tinkering and modding to get it into a playable state.
What do you use a potato 😂
@@abcbizarre nah some people are okay with frame stutter and some understand what a playable gaming experience is. Ta
Will SE or AMD add FSR support officially down the road? Does SE have a history of implementing FSR availability?
There's already a FSR 3.1 Mod for it. Might not look like native implementation but it does the job well with upscaling and frame gen
if they get paid by AMD then we will see them being implemented down the road.
I've been having a great time with Rebirth on PC so far. Super smooth for me, all the settings cranked up. Win 11, 9800x3D, gen4 NVME, 64GB RAM, 4080 Super, 4K DLSS on the 66%min100%max setting (Which I assumne just sticks to the 66% DLSS Quality level rather than dynamically scale?). 90-120fps with FOV mod to 90 degrees. I'm super happy with this port. The performance issues people are complaining about dont make sense, theres clearly something going on but from my perspective it might be one of the best launches I've seen in a while in terms of bugs and issues on day one. Not even any issues with overlays either, I've been running RTSS / Nvidia / Game Bar / Steam overlays without issue. Its been like butter for me.
I hate that theres no FOV slider though (camera distance doesnt count).
Im gonna "beta" test this one before buying it 4 sure
either test it or just wait cause its unplayable
@@yungwrld9923 Your English skills are in beta state.
Whats the bad? Was planning to start the game this weekend?
The bad: If you use MSI Afterburner overlay, unchecking the "Power" option in the monitoring settings or turning off NVIDIA overlays might fix the stutters people are experiencing.
If not, some Nexus mods can fix what Square Enix failed to address.
I only experienced stutters on AMD at the start of the game, but after that, it was smoother sailing in the more open areas.
@loopo8940 thanks. I use msi afterburner and am on an nvidia card, so that's a little worrying. Guess I'll leave it for a month or two
@ I don't think it's a big deal, i'm having fun with it either way and the only way to know if you have a problem is to test it in your own system. If you have a 4090/4070, the card will just tank any problem.
They released the game with old outdated .dll files which causes a lot of stutter, lots of texture pop in even on max setting but even worse if you put it on anything except ultra background detail, which tanks FPS by about 20%
sounds like it's only on nvidia on an all amd setup I runs better than I was expecting.
Is it the worst pc port no, there are some stuttering and shader compellation issues but would be solved after your first or second playthrough, they should add a mouse cursor while checking the menu ( it's weird how they didn't add it in the first place ) but the most annoying thing is the camera your final boss of this game is the Camera angle hopefully they fix it in the upcoming patches.
There is no DLSS in the game, why are you thinking FSR is needed for this game when the game is runing 100+ fps already on max out settings native in 1440p ?
And yes there is no DLSS support for the game and counting AA DLSS as DLSS upscaler then you're very wrong.
The problem is that people thry to run the game in 4k with a 4070/ti or worse and get easy and fast in Vram Limit and have stutters, the 4080 users try to run this game in 4k and we all know that 16gb of vram are not enough for 4k we had already any games that showed us that.
You beat me to it.... I was gonna say something pretty similar. Honestly, if you use Lossless Scaling on an AMD RX 7600, you can get performance that’s close to what you’d see from higher-end cards like the RTX 4070 Ti or 4080 in some situations. It’s not a perfect match, but in terms of FPS, it can hold it's own. Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of content creators mixing up things like frame generation, rasterization, and VRAM without really knowing how they work. Frame generation (like DLSS 3) is about adding extra frames to boost performance, while rasterization and VRAM are more about how the game is rendered and how memory is managed (as you said mentioned, this reduces stuttering significantly) It’s easy to get mixed up, but it’s helpful to know the difference if you want to make fair comparisons between GPUs and game performance (especially if you make content on PC games for a living.).
people say this game ends at disc 1 and there are two more discs to go, how many more games they gonna milk out of ff7?
did you play the original game? the amount of disc did not actually dictate how long the story. especially the the third disc. it is only feel long if you try to get all the "side dish" offered by the game.
Part 3 is the last one. So I'm expecting they will rush the last part.
There a 2 things .Definitely its a lie that the game is steam dexk verified.
Second a lot of ppl buyed it whit a twin bundle so first they will play part 1.
Acceptability and wide audience are not comming from Dei its comming from low required spec's that are working .
Unstable but Moddable 😂 needs a decent rig to play..or the loading will be slow
I have terrible shuttering, pop-in and frame pacing when I try to play it on anything above 60 FPS with a mix of high-medium-low settings. 60 is smooth but not as smooth as it should be. intel i7-12700H, 16GB ram, RTX 4060.
The laziness of not putting in dlss or fsr is a joke. Modders do it in a single day. It takes no effort.
i think the fsr mod had issues with the hud, and there's a setting that if you set it to 3 it fixes the hud issue but it sort of skips some generated frame? Maybe that's the reason why square could not employ fsr right away.
it is not about laziness. there is no way SE want to implement nvidia, AMD or intel tech without being compensated. using IHV tech means promoting their brand name. and doing it for free is let yourself to be taken advantage of.
great, more shilling
This game is support Steamdeck but not APU CPU like ryzen 7 5700g how sad I'm playing now ff7 remake and its great and can play in 30 fps
the game is garbage = too many bugs LOL
still a high price for an older game.
40 tto 48 dollars for a port that took less than a year to come to PC... how much did you expect? 20 dollars?