As a long-time wife.. I feel there are differences between men and women... I saw my hubby start out with hopes and dreams.. We worked hard, but he got punched down several times.. but because he had to support his family, I felt there were times he pretended all was OK and got up and went out there to do it again.. battle for survival. My role was to support him.. be a safe place for him to relax before going out again the next day to do it all again.
Yes. The perfect relationship. The wife as safe harbor for the husband to anchor himself to each night without fear and worry. AND the husband as the rock that the wife can crash against, as the sea crashes against rock, always there, always reliable. Each unwavering in their role. I have had such a marriage for over thirty years. I wish all people could have this.
Yes!yes! And Yes! My husband did the same. But for some, including mine, it gets on top of them. I miss him 💔 I think that’s what this song is about. Choosing to be ok with what you have, or killing yourself (literally or figuratively) to have something better.
My favorite Jackson Browne song of all. That's saying a lot because I love all his stuff. I am 67 years old and have loved his stuff since I first heard it. I am walking around Walmart with my earbuds in, singing under my breath along with this. I don't get many weird looks because most of the folks I see know me- they were my students years ago and know for sure I am crazy. They expect my crazy!
"That Girl Could Sing" for me, followed by "The Load Out/Stay", then maybe a three way near tie with this, "Rock me on the Water", and "Tender is the Night" trading places depending on how I feel that minute for my Jackson Browne top five. On reflection, "Rock me on the Water" is three.
“ while the veteran dreams of the fight, fast asleep at the traffic light”….( he’s caught me daydreaming) I’ve been listening to JB since the 70’s. Now 71 and still keep listening to this great artist. Great reaction choice. Thanks.
@@MrDarkMagnus I love Leland's TH-cam channel. During Covid he played a lot of his old tunes for the audience and it was great watching him strum/pluck that bass with the camera on him all the time.
That whole L.A. music scene in the early 70s was just bursting with creativity and talent. Jackson Browne, Linda Ronstadt, Warren Zevon (a particular fave of mine), Crosby, Stills and Nash, the members of the Eagles and so many others. And they all played with and for one another, nurtured each other. It was one of those periods, like the early 60s in London, that can never be replicated. So glad you're diving deeper in it.
Zevon is actually the proper way to spell God! lol. Him and Jackson are two of my all time favourites. That Offender meets the Pretender concert in Hilvesuum in 1976 is just phenomenal. O'm sure you know it if you're a Warren fan.
If you love this song,you need to see and hear the live version with Crosby,Stills,and Nash.The harmon ies are unbelievable! And of course the music is great,and Jackson Browne is teriffic! ❤❤❤❤
"Sing my songs to me Sing them to me softly Sing me sunlight and shadows Orange groves and meadows Let your voice ring back my memories Sing my songs to me" -Jackson Browne Melts me every time. He was/is the poet of my heart.
Jackson Browne.............modern storyteller, The Pretender, Load Out/Stay, the AMAZING heartbreaking In the Shape of a Heart............amazing talent, incredible music. One of the truly MOST under appreciated musicians in Rock history.,
I was fortunate to have a father who taught me how to enjoy work... and if it wasn't enjoyable find another job. He came from living in a tent in the mud of the East Texas oil fields and went through WWll. Dad never wallowed in self-pity, but always had a dream(s). Therein lies the secret to life... looking forward with anticipation of better things.
That is so typical of the greatest generation. My parents also, think about what they lived through. I think that being young during the depression mostly shaped them, but then to have to go to war, and if you survive, start a family and sacrifice for them. Sure, every generation had bad apples, but there is something special about that generation.
“He started out so young and strong, only to surrender.” Exactly. Never surrender to the machine. Be kind. Always. 66 here. Always stand up for truth and kindness. End the rule of lies.
Jackson Browne - my all time favorite singer/songwriter. His musical commentary on social issues is unsurpassed. He’s a master at raising awareness without preaching. And, he’s written some of the most beautiful love songs. In the ‘80’s much of the idealism of the late ‘60’s and 70’s was being discarded by many young people, and making money and gathering stuff surpassed so-called “hippie values” of peace, love, sharing, and caring in importance. This song is about someone totally surrendering to a materialistic lifestyle, and losing much of what makes life worth living. The pendulum swings between the extremes. And in between, there’s a balance that each person needs to find to create a life that works for them. That’s my take. Suggestions for pure poetry: “My Opening Farewell” (duet with Bonnie Raitt), and “Sky Blue and Black” studio version with Jackson on piano, Scott Thurston on guitar
Knowing this song from my younger years (I am 59,) it actually shaped the kind of parent I became to my 4 children. My oldest daughter wrote in a Mothers Day card once, “We didn’t always have the fancy car or the best house or clothes, but I knew my mom would be there when I got home from school every day. She made the field trips, class parties and was there to pick me up when I called home sick. I want to be that kind of mom for my kids. I want to be there.” Think I’m gonna listen again…❤
at 71 years old, I've been listening to Jackson for 50 years. His words are about all our lives. I've seen him live twice, both in the 80s and he is a natural onstage, he loves to sing and connect with the audience.
He is a prolific songwriter. I have loved his work since the early 70's when I was a young teenager. I have seen him play live 6 times. This whole album is great.
Sebs, you are so welcome. Thank you so much for the Shout about my channel. Very glad you enjoyed this one. One of the strongest songs for me, I still get chills listening to it. Browne has written some of the most profound lyrics of all time. Another favorite bit of lyrics from him is in "That Girl Could Sing". It's a great song in it's own right but the one line in it really hit me hard, "She could have turned out to be almost anyone. Almost anyone. With the possible exception of who I wanted her to be." Just briliant, a reminder that people are individuals and we shouldn't impose our conceptions of who they are onto them. And also, of the consequence of doing so.
A lot of good thoughts and insights here. I was an art major in college when this song came out and I remember driving back to the dorms one night and this song came on my radio and it was the first time I heard it. I pulled the car over and was mesmerized by both the lyrics and the music. It is my favorite Jackson Browne song and I have never tired of it over the years. I remember when I was working on my MFA in art during the early/mid '90's and I had a studio out in my garage (one of those old 1928 double sliding door barn garages) with 12" Yamaha speakers hanging from the rafters and listening to music while I worked on paintings late at night. I was listening to an independent station and they had Jackson on live and he performed The Pretender live at the station on an acoustic guitar. I always knew that song from the studio album version and was again blown away by this guy's talent and insight. He said in that live performance (as I remember it but I may be wrong) that the germ of the idea for that song came from a session guitar player he knew who was super talented but was just happy to come in and do the gig for the money and had no greater aspirations to take his talent any further. Jackson was not making a judgement so much as an observation and then he just expanded that idea into this lengthy and intricate poem about the struggle all of us go through trying to balance our dreams with reality. I know for myself that I sacrificed a lot to pursue my dreams in my twenties and although money was tight at times I do not regret taking the road less traveled. I ultimately ended up teaching in my early thirties and am now retired. My advice to my students was to pursue your dreams while you are young because it iwill become more difficult as you grow older. And, no Mr. Duran, you are not a pretender.
Like many of JB's songs "The Pretender" chronicles the life milestones of his generation. In this case the moment when youthful 1960's idealism, love, striving and hope for a better world are surrendered and traded in for the compromised small consolations of adulthood where we accept a suburban "house in the shade of a freeway" and a conformist consumer lifestyle where people come to "believe in whatever may lie in those things that money can buy" all "while the ships bearing their dreams sail out of sight." We all set out wanting to change the world for the better, but in the end are ourselves changed by our failures into pretenders who betray our ideals for the security that comes with conformity and acceptance. It is a sadly poetic and very human truth, which is why this song hits so hard right in the feels.
The Pretender (album) is a bit of a departure from Jackson's usual idealistic, optimistic world view towards a world weary almost fatalistic POV of the 80's "me decade". The title song suggests settling for what life is giving him. As you say, it resonated with many of us moving out of the 70's into the reality of just life. The counter point song on the album is The Only Child - as song from a father urging his son to hang on to the compassion and optimism to care for his mother, for his fellow man and to strive to find his soul mate. I played this album constantly when it came out and it still shows up in my playlists. Jackson never fails to deliver a thoughtful message.
Great song. I love Jackson Browne. I was lucky to grow up in the 60s and 70s. All that music was great! I had transistor radios, reel to reel tape, 8 track and cassettes.
Fantastic Times im 63 and had the best times EVER IN THE 60s and 70s,I could care less about politics as a kid and TEENAGER in the 60s and 70s.Jesus Christ opend my eyes 4 Him n the early 80s .and my Daughter was born in 1987. bUt other than that the late 60s and 70s where FANTASTIC
Jackson Browne was part of the "Laurel Canyon bunch". It was an incredible group of musicians interacting in one neighborhood which resulted in some of the greatest bands from the 70's. ( Let's not talk about Charles Manson).
Jackson is right up there as one of the best lyricists of the era-up there with Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan, IMO. He wrote his first hit song, “These Days” at age 16 and also wrote for the Eagles (Take it Easy) and other artists from the era. Deep, deep catalog. He is incredibly talented and still sounds great today.
So very many of our heroes were absolute poets and wonderful story tellers, along with the fact that they were fantastic musicians. We old folks have the greatest music history
I wrote a comment too long for publication on the Leland Sklar tangent and "The Immediate Family" (Leland Sklar, Russ Kunkel, Danny Kortchmar, Waddy Wachtel, and Steve Postel), love Lee Sklar's TH-cam Channel. Thanks!
So much great music I almost forgot about Jackson Browne until I was listening to a story about Linda Ronstadt today and then I remembered That he hung around with some of the Eagles(before they were the Eagles) and Linda!! Great Song Brother!!!!
Part of the fun of buying albums in the 70's was reading who was on the tracks. Jackson brown James taylor CSN&Y Linda ronstadt Joni mitchell Carol king Etc
Jackson Browne is a master lyricist, a brilliant musician, and thoroughly entertaining as well as thought provoking. He has consistently provided his fans with a soundtrack to live by. He's in my top 10 of all time in singer songwriting imho.
Great song. Great reaction. You can't go wrong with any Jackson Browne song. 'For A Dancer' and 'Fountain Of Sorrow' are two more to check out. You will not be disappointed. Love your stuff, bro!
I cannot believe you are checking out Jackson Browne! He was tops on my playlist in my mid 20"s, LOVE HIM! I am 69 now and music hasn't been the same for years, recently I found Ren and Chinchilla and friends and they have given me new life in music, it was real back then and Ren is real today and it gives me joy! Thanks!
Great Share Seb! Jackson Browne was my first concert in California, in 1978. At the age of 20, I had no idea how the lyrics to this song would hit home, over the next 40+ years! Keep sharing Seb and GODS-peed to you and your family!
I am so happy that you are exploring Jackson Browne. He is an amazing talent. I always have thought of him as a poet who sets his poems to music. One song of his that I feel has never received the notice it deserves is The Late Show. It is a poem set to music. There is no chorus, there is no refrain. It reaches deep into me, however, and always leaves me hopeful. I would be very interested to see your reaction.
You've just scratched the surface of Jackson Browne's writing. The entire Late For The Sky is full of amazing songs that will touch just about every feeling you could possibly have. I recommend songs like For A Dancer, Before The Deluge, Fountain Of Sorrow, the title track, Road & Sky. That album is a masterpiece
Drove 400 miles every other weekend for my boys to see their Dad for 5 years. They know all the words to Jackson's Late for the Sky, Running on Empty and The Pretender. Fountain of Sorrow will be played for my life celebration. We also listened to the best narrated audio book, 75 CDs of Harry Potter. And yes the volume got turned up. They also know every song on Rock Band.
When I was young and a consultant to large companies around the world it was a time of great change, changes that we're all still adapting with. The old guards who ran companies, not just the CEO, but I mean the real people who ran the companies, the managers, supervisors, the workers, all who liked being at work and defined themselves with their job; they're the ones who built America, Canada, the world, created such economic growth, all those guards began to retire. The up and coming people nearly all said that they're not living for "the company" like the old guards, the up-coming people nearly all said they wanted a life outside of work. Their reasoning was that they saw a lot of old guards who lived for their jobs retire and within a few years retired, without the job anymore quickly die. These up-coming managers wanted a long life, a long retirement, and not just live for a job, they wanted to live. Now some 30 years later I see that taken too far that the quality of doing jobs, the quality of things go down so much. The old guards mostly work one job in their lifetime, the new guards skip from job to job, not take an interest in their job or the company; companies on such shaky grounds don't last. This is not to say that all younger workers are this way, but as an observer of people for over 60 years I see an overall trend towards I don't care attitude, the "I'm going to do as little as possible in this job" attitude, and shifting towards me, me, me. I would prefer to see the we, us, our family, our co-workers, our schools, our town; it doesn't have to be all one or the other, we can easily live a life of balance. Imagine a group of people doing the best they can in the moment, whether at home or at work? Imagine a whole town doing the best they can together in the moment; now imagine a whole country doing the best they can. It was done before, it can be done again. We all have to get away from the me, me, me, and all work together as a we. There's always a we, there'll be always others that are similar craziness as your tribe. Lets all be inclusive, not exclusive. When one of us succeeds lets celebrate because we all succeed, when one of us doesn't, we all don't. I have seen the power of working together, which leads to a strong economy. Life is not a zero-sum game, there can be more then enough that we all can benefit. I know this was rather long, but he did ask at the end if we old fools had any advice, this was mine, from a life-time observer of life, and from someone who had the benefit and blessing of seeing the inside of our economy from top to bottom, from the corner office to the new hire. When man landed on the moon, a reporter jokingly asked the guy with the broom, sweeping in the control room, what he does here, the man replied, "I'm helping put a man on the moon." There are no small jobs, only small people; every job is important.
I agree with your overall point. I was lucky enough to be part of an "old guard" company and learned a lifetime of lessons and skills. I think one of the differences in the old and the new is that the old guards not only loved what they did and the company they created, but they also cared for and looked after those within their business. Big or small it was a family creating a product or service and doing it with pride. The new guards never had that passion and/or don't see the bigger picture. The "me-me-me" attitude has been fostered to create all the problems we are facing these days. Lack of responsibility, lack of ownership, lack of concern for the community; it all falls apart quickly. Working for someone else to pay the bills is a fact of life, but you can still pursue your dreams and eventually live a happy life. You will get what you give, so give with love and honest intention, it will come back to you.
@@monicaroethlisberger2124 One of the other changes I've seen in the corporate world is that companies used to be in business to create products that added something to the world, and they were proud of that, and hopefully they would make enough money doing that to keep the business afloat. Now it seems companies are in business to make enough money to keep the shareholders happy, and maybe they'll produce a quality product if it doesn't cost too much. The whole understanding of why companies exist has shifted dramatically. I think partly that's a result of the change in people's attitudes and focus, but partly contributes to that change in attitude as well.
Joy comes from God, happiness is a decision. I've heard it said that no one ever said on their death bed, "I wish I had spent more time at the office". As that great philosopher Dolly Parton once wrote, "...one is only poor only if they choose to be". Balance.
Jackson Brown is an icon, pretender is a classic, but Jackson has a newer album & song , the naked ride home , cool song kinda special to me as I have lived the lyrics, unbelievable, unforgettable road trips w my wife
There's a good reason Jackson Browne is in the Songwriters Hall of Fame, alongside greats like Kris Kristofferson and Don McLean. "I'm going to find me a girl who can show me what laughter means/And we'll fill in the missing colors in each other's paint-by-number dreams." I mean, who writes lyrics like that today? The short answer is -- nobody. Interestingly, this song came out in 1976, shortly after his first wife committed suicide.
I'm 75, same age as him. I'd say crucial is to do your art, however you do it, and remember the definition of "day job". Sometimes your day job is the one you love, sometimes not, but the food gotta go on the table. Also, I learned from an Argentinian friend who survived incarceration and torture there in the early 80s, mate should always be imbibed in community, and that sitting around talking was the most fun of all pursuits (after music). Thanks for sharing your mate conversation with us. In some Andean countries mate also means friend.
I saw Jackson Browne's show in Saratoga Springs NY amphitheater in 1997. He was celebrating 20 years since an album release that included the song LOAD OUT/STAY. He recorded that song in S.Springs in 1977. This was the song he closed the show with, before Load out in a double encore. One of the nicest, most professional concerts I have seen.
Exactly Jackson 11:46 Browne is an American poet of the highest caliber ✌️❤️ are you there say a prayer for the pretender who started out so young and strong only to surrender. I just turned 61 I'm not sure what the song means to me but i sure do feel it stronger
So many people think that Bob Dylan was the greatest lyrics system of all time. And there's so much to say that is true about that, but Jackson, it is my favorite for so many reasons. He is a poet and clever lyricist. I would recommend listening to the song "Lives in the Balance" as I think it might have the best lyrics of any song ever. H's also written some simple songs like "Nino." Very fun and catchy were wonderful. "Sombody' Baby " is upbeat about seeing a girl and wany ting t meet her. I feel genuinely lucky to count him as one of the greats In the soundtrack of my life!
You got it, man. It IS a great song, and for all those reasons. The verse about the Girl: "And we'll fill in the missing colors in each other's paint-by-number dreams..." Like, 'I won't make myself whole, but being with you will make us whole." Which is just codependence, not to mention, heartbreaking. This is what he does. Try the studio versions of 'Fountain of Sorrow'; For a Dancer; Before the Deluge; Late For the Sky.
That "little bass riff" is Leland Sklar, who played with Jackson, James Taylor, and is out now with Lyle Lovett. He has a cool TH-cam channel with great music videos. He's in band that call themselves "The Immediate Family" including himself, Russ Kunkel (probably drumming on this song, Danny Kortchmar, Waddy Wachtel, and Steve Postel(spelling on Steve). Love Jackson Browne and these fellow baby Boomer musicians!
I don't think Jackson Browne would classify you as a pretender. You pursue the "legal tender" in order to support and grow others - your loved ones, not simply focused on yourself. You see things and money as a means to an end, not an end in itself, which is what I think Browne is criticizing here. Materialism is pretending. Reminds me of the Guess Who's line in American Woman, "Colored lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else's eyes." Easy to get distracted from what really matters. How many times do we have to be told like this that we can't take it with us? Like @franlockhart1533 this is my favorite of his not only for the excellent music but the profound critique of what so many of us chase.
My first vinyl. My uncle, who is only 10yrs older than me gave it to me after playing "Here Come Those Tears Again" I still have it. And I still tear up at both songs.
A slightly different message in it, but another self-reflection song is "The Stranger" by Billy Joel. It's about the faces we put on and whether we recognize the stranger within ourselves.
I have been waiting for this song, so thank you. This was featured in the movie "Mr Holland's Opus" if you have not seen it, you need to with Ali and a box of Kleenex.
Agreed. Great song choice by your dude Scott. I was browsing your channel and video's . I love that you did Chicago 25or6to4!! You need more Chicago to hear the beautiful voice of the Lead Guitar Terry Kath, RIP. Please check out "I'M A MAN", "Colour My World", "Make Me Smile".......such a great talent. also, DO you know Steely Dan? I noticed you have not reacted to any Steely Dan. Hopefully you know THEM. they have at least 40 BANGERS. Not sure what to recommend, since they have SO MANY BANGERS.
One of my all-time favorite songs. Music was gospel-like. “Say a prayer for the Pretender”. Trying to find the soul/spiritual connection in the noise of the daily routine. Your spiritual life is as or more important to survival as working for worldly goods.
Great review Sebs! I love that you actually listen to these songs with the lyrics, for songs just like this one, which as you said, has deep lyrics that are poetry set to music. These lyrics are powerful and relatable. Love your channel 🙂
Sebs, I think you are right about the song having totally different meaning whether or not there is love in the family. I've watched some of the videos you did with your wife, from appearences, you nailed it.
Now that you know who the pretender is, I implore you to find out who the offender is. Warren Zevon “Desperados Under the Eaves“ they were literally referred to as The Pretender and the offender.
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As a long-time wife.. I feel there are differences between men and women... I saw my hubby start out with hopes and dreams.. We worked hard, but he got punched down several times.. but because he had to support his family, I felt there were times he pretended all was OK and got up and went out there to do it again.. battle for survival. My role was to support him.. be a safe place for him to relax before going out again the next day to do it all again.
OUTSTANDING SHARE .!
YOUR HUSBAND IS A LUCKY MAN.
You're the good woman keeping your man alive and giving him the reason to get up and do it again.
Yes. The perfect relationship. The wife as safe harbor for the husband to anchor himself to each night without fear and worry. AND the husband as the rock that the wife can crash against, as the sea crashes against rock, always there, always reliable. Each unwavering in their role. I have had such a marriage for over thirty years. I wish all people could have this.
He was so lucky to have such a great life partner as you. ❤️
Yes!yes! And Yes! My husband did the same. But for some, including mine, it gets on top of them. I miss him 💔
I think that’s what this song is about. Choosing to be ok with what you have, or killing yourself (literally or figuratively) to have something better.
I am 73 and just found you. It is so good to hear this music of my youth with you. You are a natural. It is being young again and listening together.
One of the best songwriters, ever. ✌️❤️
My Faverite singer song writer is John Denver from the 70s
My favorite Jackson Browne song of all. That's saying a lot because I love all his stuff. I am 67 years old and have loved his stuff since I first heard it. I am walking around Walmart with my earbuds in, singing under my breath along with this. I don't get many weird looks because most of the folks I see know me- they were my students years ago and know for sure I am crazy. They expect my crazy!
I'm 64, love Jackson Browne!!!
I'm 67, too! Retired crazy teacher, too! Gotta get some ear buds though lol! Peace from Northern Michigan.
Ditto on the favorite Jackson Browne tune!!
"That Girl Could Sing" for me, followed by "The Load Out/Stay", then maybe a three way near tie with this, "Rock me on the Water", and "Tender is the Night" trading places depending on how I feel that minute for my Jackson Browne top five. On reflection, "Rock me on the Water" is three.
@@apparition13 "Love needs a heart", gets me every time I hear it!
“ while the veteran dreams of the fight, fast asleep at the traffic light”….( he’s caught me daydreaming) I’ve been listening to JB since the 70’s. Now 71 and still keep listening to this great artist. Great reaction choice. Thanks.
That's Graham Nash and David Crosby (Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young) singing backup and the fabulous Leland Sklar on bass
Man, Leland was all over the place. He's one if the best.
@@MrDarkMagnus I love Leland's TH-cam channel. During Covid he played a lot of his old tunes for the audience and it was great watching him strum/pluck that bass with the camera on him all the time.
Wow. I never knew that! How did I miss that!
And the late master Jeff Porcaro on drums.
@@MrDarkMagnus I was gonna say if it wasn't Leland then it was Levin.
That whole L.A. music scene in the early 70s was just bursting with creativity and talent. Jackson Browne, Linda Ronstadt, Warren Zevon (a particular fave of mine), Crosby, Stills and Nash, the members of the Eagles and so many others. And they all played with and for one another, nurtured each other. It was one of those periods, like the early 60s in London, that can never be replicated. So glad you're diving deeper in it.
Zevon is actually the proper way to spell God! lol. Him and Jackson are two of my all time favourites. That Offender meets the Pretender concert in Hilvesuum in 1976 is just phenomenal. O'm sure you know it if you're a Warren fan.
If you love this song,you need to see and hear the live version with Crosby,Stills,and Nash.The harmon ies are unbelievable! And of course the music is great,and Jackson Browne is teriffic! ❤❤❤❤
Jackson Browne has been a treasure for decades.
"Sing my songs to me
Sing them to me softly
Sing me sunlight and shadows
Orange groves and meadows
Let your voice ring back my memories
Sing my songs to me" -Jackson Browne
Melts me every time. He was/is the poet of my heart.
Jackson Browne.............modern storyteller, The Pretender, Load Out/Stay, the AMAZING heartbreaking In the Shape of a Heart............amazing talent, incredible music. One of the truly MOST under appreciated musicians in Rock history.,
I was fortunate to have a father who taught me how to enjoy work... and if it wasn't enjoyable find another job. He came from living in a tent in the mud of the East Texas oil fields and went through WWll. Dad never wallowed in self-pity, but always had a dream(s). Therein lies the secret to life... looking forward with anticipation of better things.
That is so typical of the greatest generation. My parents also, think about what they lived through. I think that being young during the depression mostly shaped them, but then to have to go to war, and if you survive, start a family and sacrifice for them. Sure, every generation had bad apples, but there is something special about that generation.
“He started out so young and strong, only to surrender.” Exactly. Never surrender to the machine. Be kind. Always. 66 here. Always stand up for truth and kindness. End the rule of lies.
Oh thank you! I really needed to hear this today! You are the angel I prayed for today. God bless you!
Jackson Browne - my all time favorite singer/songwriter. His musical commentary on social issues is unsurpassed. He’s a master at raising awareness without preaching. And, he’s written some of the most beautiful love songs.
In the ‘80’s much of the idealism of the late ‘60’s and 70’s was being discarded by many young people, and making money and gathering stuff surpassed so-called “hippie values” of peace, love, sharing, and caring in importance. This song is about someone totally surrendering to a materialistic lifestyle, and losing much of what makes life worth living.
The pendulum swings between the extremes. And in between, there’s a balance that each person needs to find to create a life that works for them. That’s my take.
Suggestions for pure poetry: “My Opening Farewell” (duet with Bonnie Raitt), and “Sky Blue and Black” studio version with Jackson on piano, Scott Thurston on guitar
In the 70's many of us thought we were part of Jackson Browne's Greater Awakening.
Knowing this song from my younger years (I am 59,) it actually shaped the kind of parent I became to my 4 children. My oldest daughter wrote in a Mothers Day card once, “We didn’t always have the fancy car or the best house or clothes, but I knew my mom would be there when I got home from school every day. She made the field trips, class parties and was there to pick me up when I called home sick. I want to be that kind of mom for my kids. I want to be there.” Think I’m gonna listen again…❤
at 71 years old, I've been listening to Jackson for 50 years. His words are about all our lives. I've seen him live twice, both in the 80s and he is a natural onstage, he loves to sing and connect with the audience.
He is a prolific songwriter. I have loved his work since the early 70's when I was a young teenager. I have seen him play live 6 times. This whole album is great.
Leland Sklar on bass! One of Jackson’s greatest songs!!!!!!! Brilliant!!!!!!!!!
He has a cool TH-cam channel
Sebs, you are so welcome. Thank you so much for the Shout about my channel. Very glad you enjoyed this one. One of the strongest songs for me, I still get chills listening to it. Browne has written some of the most profound lyrics of all time. Another favorite bit of lyrics from him is in "That Girl Could Sing". It's a great song in it's own right but the one line in it really hit me hard, "She could have turned out to be almost anyone. Almost anyone. With the possible exception of who I wanted her to be." Just briliant, a reminder that people are individuals and we shouldn't impose our conceptions of who they are onto them. And also, of the consequence of doing so.
"of missing persons" is perhaps my favourite on that album
48 and been listening to him since I was 17. My older brother listened to the 70’s. Awesome music era. Timeless
I cry most times when I listen to this song. I see my son living it. Heart breaking. I've never known of a better songwriter.
I'm 78, and I've listened to this song at least 500 times. Each time you hear it, the message delivers subtle changes in meaning.
A lot of good thoughts and insights here. I was an art major in college when this song came out and I remember driving back to the dorms one night and this song came on my radio and it was the first time I heard it. I pulled the car over and was mesmerized by both the lyrics and the music. It is my favorite Jackson Browne song and I have never tired of it over the years. I remember when I was working on my MFA in art during the early/mid '90's and I had a studio out in my garage (one of those old 1928 double sliding door barn garages) with 12" Yamaha speakers hanging from the rafters and listening to music while I worked on paintings late at night. I was listening to an independent station and they had Jackson on live and he performed The Pretender live at the station on an acoustic guitar. I always knew that song from the studio album version and was again blown away by this guy's talent and insight. He said in that live performance (as I remember it but I may be wrong) that the germ of the idea for that song came from a session guitar player he knew who was super talented but was just happy to come in and do the gig for the money and had no greater aspirations to take his talent any further. Jackson was not making a judgement so much as an observation and then he just expanded that idea into this lengthy and intricate poem about the struggle all of us go through trying to balance our dreams with reality. I know for myself that I sacrificed a lot to pursue my dreams in my twenties and although money was tight at times I do not regret taking the road less traveled. I ultimately ended up teaching in my early thirties and am now retired. My advice to my students was to pursue your dreams while you are young because it iwill become more difficult as you grow older. And, no Mr. Duran, you are not a pretender.
Like many of JB's songs "The Pretender" chronicles the life milestones of his generation. In this case the moment when youthful 1960's idealism, love, striving and hope for a better world are surrendered and traded in for the compromised small consolations of adulthood where we accept a suburban "house in the shade of a freeway" and a conformist consumer lifestyle where people come to "believe in whatever may lie in those things that money can buy" all "while the ships bearing their dreams sail out of sight." We all set out wanting to change the world for the better, but in the end are ourselves changed by our failures into pretenders who betray our ideals for the security that comes with conformity and acceptance. It is a sadly poetic and very human truth, which is why this song hits so hard right in the feels.
Love me some Jackson Brown ❣️❣️❣️
That's the deal with the music of my era. Songs were poetry and tell a story.
The Pretender (album) is a bit of a departure from Jackson's usual idealistic, optimistic world view towards a world weary almost fatalistic POV of the 80's "me decade". The title song suggests settling for what life is giving him. As you say, it resonated with many of us moving out of the 70's into the reality of just life. The counter point song on the album is The Only Child - as song from a father urging his son to hang on to the compassion and optimism to care for his mother, for his fellow man and to strive to find his soul mate. I played this album constantly when it came out and it still shows up in my playlists. Jackson never fails to deliver a thoughtful message.
To me the 70s were the best decade for Great music and times the 80s NOT SO MUCH I NEVER LIKED THE IDEA OF GETTING AIDS in 1981 remember that ?
Jackson Browne’s lyrics are always poetic. Thanks Seb for choosing this one.
Great song. I love Jackson Browne. I was lucky to grow up in the 60s and 70s. All that music was great! I had transistor radios, reel to reel tape, 8 track and cassettes.
Fantastic Times im 63 and had the best times EVER IN THE 60s and 70s,I could care less about politics as a kid and TEENAGER in the 60s and 70s.Jesus Christ opend my eyes 4 Him n the early 80s .and my Daughter was born in 1987. bUt other than that the late 60s and 70s where FANTASTIC
Jackson Browne was part of the "Laurel Canyon bunch". It was an incredible group of musicians interacting in one neighborhood which resulted in some of the greatest bands from the 70's. ( Let's not talk about Charles Manson).
Jackson is right up there as one of the best lyricists of the era-up there with Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan, IMO. He wrote his first hit song, “These Days” at age 16 and also wrote for the Eagles (Take it Easy) and other artists from the era. Deep, deep catalog. He is incredibly talented and still sounds great today.
So very many of our heroes were absolute poets and wonderful story tellers, along with the fact that they were fantastic musicians. We old folks have the greatest music history
I love Jackson Brown!! 😁💋💖🍹👵🐺🌵👍💃
The bass player is the legendary Leland Skylar. He may have played on more famous recordings than anybody.
"That Bass riff there" that my friend is the great Leland Sklar one the absolute best
I wrote a comment too long for publication on the Leland Sklar tangent and "The Immediate Family" (Leland Sklar, Russ Kunkel, Danny Kortchmar, Waddy Wachtel, and Steve Postel), love Lee Sklar's TH-cam Channel. Thanks!
The man knows how to write amazing songs, and make surprising arrangements.
So much great music I almost forgot about Jackson Browne until I was listening to a story about Linda Ronstadt today and then I remembered That he hung around with some of the Eagles(before they were the Eagles) and Linda!! Great Song Brother!!!!
Jackson Brown, Bob Seager, and Dan Fogalber ( I know I can't Spell) are three of the all time great singer songwriters.
Top tier singer, song writer!!
I keep forgetting how great Jackson Brown is. I love his music but somehow life gets in the way of listening to him.
Part of the fun of buying albums in the 70's was reading who was on the tracks.
Jackson brown
James taylor
CSN&Y
Linda ronstadt
Joni mitchell
Carol king
Etc
Another great song from this album is Here Come Those Tears Again. Beautifully heartbreaking
Jackson Browne is a master lyricist, a brilliant musician, and thoroughly entertaining as well as thought provoking. He has consistently provided his fans with a soundtrack to live by. He's in my top 10 of all time in singer songwriting imho.
Great song. Great reaction. You can't go wrong with any Jackson Browne song. 'For A Dancer' and 'Fountain Of Sorrow' are two more to check out. You will not be disappointed. Love your stuff, bro!
I cannot believe you are checking out Jackson Browne! He was tops on my playlist in my mid 20"s, LOVE HIM! I am 69 now and music hasn't been the same for years, recently I found Ren and Chinchilla and friends and they have given me new life in music, it was real back then and Ren is real today and it gives me joy! Thanks!
One of my favorites. Heard him back in the 70s love all of his music. Would like to have you do more of jackson browne
One of many of his greatest pome's ever put on paper!
**Poems
Great Share Seb!
Jackson Browne was my first concert in California, in 1978. At the age of 20, I had no idea how the lyrics to this song would hit home, over the next 40+ years! Keep sharing Seb and GODS-peed to you and your family!
Jackson Browne was a very down to earth, of the people type man. Despite his talent, fame and fortune, he remained grounded
I love Jackson Browne. All of his songs are poetry to me but my fave is Sky Blue and Black. Please listen!!
I am so happy that you are exploring Jackson Browne. He is an amazing talent. I always have thought of him as a poet who sets his poems to music. One song of his that I feel has never received the notice it deserves is The Late Show. It is a poem set to music. There is no chorus, there is no refrain. It reaches deep into me, however, and always leaves me hopeful. I would be very interested to see your reaction.
Jackson has been my favorite artist forever. Try For a Dancer, Before the Deluge, Late for the Sky. So many great songs
My favorite song , but he doesn',r write, sing or play a bad song. He is the greatest ❤️
His lyrics are poetry. You’ve got to listen to Late for the Sky next.
You've just scratched the surface of Jackson Browne's writing. The entire Late For The Sky is full of amazing songs that will touch just about every feeling you could possibly have. I recommend songs like For A Dancer, Before The Deluge, Fountain Of Sorrow, the title track, Road & Sky. That album is a masterpiece
I agree. That album is perfection.
My favorite album of his.
Drove 400 miles every other weekend for my boys to see their Dad for 5 years. They know all the words to Jackson's Late for the Sky, Running on Empty and The Pretender. Fountain of Sorrow will be played for my life celebration. We also listened to the best narrated audio book, 75 CDs of Harry Potter. And yes the volume got turned up. They also know every song on Rock Band.
When I was young and a consultant to large companies around the world it was a time of great change, changes that we're all still adapting with. The old guards who ran companies, not just the CEO, but I mean the real people who ran the companies, the managers, supervisors, the workers, all who liked being at work and defined themselves with their job; they're the ones who built America, Canada, the world, created such economic growth, all those guards began to retire. The up and coming people nearly all said that they're not living for "the company" like the old guards, the up-coming people nearly all said they wanted a life outside of work. Their reasoning was that they saw a lot of old guards who lived for their jobs retire and within a few years retired, without the job anymore quickly die. These up-coming managers wanted a long life, a long retirement, and not just live for a job, they wanted to live. Now some 30 years later I see that taken too far that the quality of doing jobs, the quality of things go down so much. The old guards mostly work one job in their lifetime, the new guards skip from job to job, not take an interest in their job or the company; companies on such shaky grounds don't last. This is not to say that all younger workers are this way, but as an observer of people for over 60 years I see an overall trend towards I don't care attitude, the "I'm going to do as little as possible in this job" attitude, and shifting towards me, me, me. I would prefer to see the we, us, our family, our co-workers, our schools, our town; it doesn't have to be all one or the other, we can easily live a life of balance. Imagine a group of people doing the best they can in the moment, whether at home or at work? Imagine a whole town doing the best they can together in the moment; now imagine a whole country doing the best they can. It was done before, it can be done again. We all have to get away from the me, me, me, and all work together as a we. There's always a we, there'll be always others that are similar craziness as your tribe. Lets all be inclusive, not exclusive. When one of us succeeds lets celebrate because we all succeed, when one of us doesn't, we all don't. I have seen the power of working together, which leads to a strong economy. Life is not a zero-sum game, there can be more then enough that we all can benefit. I know this was rather long, but he did ask at the end if we old fools had any advice, this was mine, from a life-time observer of life, and from someone who had the benefit and blessing of seeing the inside of our economy from top to bottom, from the corner office to the new hire. When man landed on the moon, a reporter jokingly asked the guy with the broom, sweeping in the control room, what he does here, the man replied, "I'm helping put a man on the moon." There are no small jobs, only small people; every job is important.
I agree with your overall point. I was lucky enough to be part of an "old guard" company and learned a lifetime of lessons and skills. I think one of the differences in the old and the new is that the old guards not only loved what they did and the company they created, but they also cared for and looked after those within their business. Big or small it was a family creating a product or service and doing it with pride. The new guards never had that passion and/or don't see the bigger picture. The "me-me-me" attitude has been fostered to create all the problems we are facing these days. Lack of responsibility, lack of ownership, lack of concern for the community; it all falls apart quickly.
Working for someone else to pay the bills is a fact of life, but you can still pursue your dreams and eventually live a happy life. You will get what you give, so give with love and honest intention, it will come back to you.
@@monicaroethlisberger2124 One of the other changes I've seen in the corporate world is that companies used to be in business to create products that added something to the world, and they were proud of that, and hopefully they would make enough money doing that to keep the business afloat. Now it seems companies are in business to make enough money to keep the shareholders happy, and maybe they'll produce a quality product if it doesn't cost too much. The whole understanding of why companies exist has shifted dramatically. I think partly that's a result of the change in people's attitudes and focus, but partly contributes to that change in attitude as well.
Chills from head to toe listening to this song. It’s been a while since I have heard it. Jackson Brown is a phenomenal artist.
Please listen to his "Late For The Sky" Album if you want more excellent songs !!!!
IMO that's his masterpiece album.
His lyrics are so smart and hard-hitting. I love his music.
Joy comes from God, happiness is a decision. I've heard it said that no one ever said on their death bed, "I wish I had spent more time at the office". As that great philosopher Dolly Parton once wrote, "...one is only poor only if they choose to be". Balance.
Jackson Brown is an icon, pretender is a classic, but Jackson has a newer album & song , the naked ride home , cool song kinda special to me as I have lived the lyrics, unbelievable, unforgettable road trips w my wife
My all-time favourite album of forever.
There's a good reason Jackson Browne is in the Songwriters Hall of Fame, alongside greats like Kris Kristofferson and Don McLean. "I'm going to find me a girl who can show me what laughter means/And we'll fill in the missing colors in each other's paint-by-number dreams." I mean, who writes lyrics like that today? The short answer is -- nobody. Interestingly, this song came out in 1976, shortly after his first wife committed suicide.
I'm 75, same age as him. I'd say crucial is to do your art, however you do it, and remember the definition of "day job". Sometimes your day job is the one you love, sometimes not, but the food gotta go on the table. Also, I learned from an Argentinian friend who survived incarceration and torture there in the early 80s, mate should always be imbibed in community, and that sitting around talking was the most fun of all pursuits (after music). Thanks for sharing your mate conversation with us. In some Andean countries mate also means friend.
This was a fine, fine reaction video. Nicely done. Thank you for what you are doing with your channel.
I saw Jackson Browne's show in Saratoga Springs NY amphitheater in 1997. He was celebrating 20 years since an album release that included the song LOAD OUT/STAY. He recorded that song in S.Springs in 1977. This was the song he closed the show with, before Load out in a double encore. One of the nicest, most professional concerts I have seen.
Try, “These Days” which unbelievably he also wrote as a teen. Wisdom from above…. ✨
Love Jackson Brown!
Exactly Jackson 11:46 Browne is an American poet of the highest caliber ✌️❤️ are you there say a prayer for the pretender who started out so young and strong only to surrender. I just turned 61 I'm not sure what the song means to me but i sure do feel it stronger
He was one of the reasons I started writing music.
Seb, U have discovered one of the best lyricist of all time.
So many people think that Bob Dylan was the greatest lyrics system of all time. And there's so much to say that is true about that, but Jackson, it is my favorite for so many reasons. He is a poet and clever lyricist. I would recommend listening to the song "Lives in the Balance" as I think it might have the best lyrics of any song ever. H's also written some simple songs like "Nino." Very fun and catchy were wonderful. "Sombody' Baby " is upbeat about seeing a girl and wany ting t meet her. I feel genuinely lucky to count him as one of the greats In the soundtrack of my life!
You got it, man. It IS a great song, and for all those reasons. The verse about the Girl: "And we'll fill in the missing colors in each other's paint-by-number dreams..." Like, 'I won't make myself whole, but being with you will make us whole." Which is just codependence, not to mention, heartbreaking. This is what he does. Try the studio versions of 'Fountain of Sorrow'; For a Dancer; Before the Deluge; Late For the Sky.
What a treasure Jackson is to us, this song is a masterpiece and like so many of his songs they are forever a joy to listen to. Love the Man !!!
That "little bass riff" is Leland Sklar, who played with Jackson, James Taylor, and is out now with Lyle Lovett. He has a cool TH-cam channel with great music videos. He's in band that call themselves "The Immediate Family" including himself, Russ Kunkel (probably drumming on this song, Danny Kortchmar, Waddy Wachtel, and Steve Postel(spelling on Steve). Love Jackson Browne and these fellow baby Boomer musicians!
This is my favorite song by Jackson Browne. There's just something about the lyrics that resonates and hits me everytime I hear it.
One of my all-time favorites. Thanks, Larry!
I saw him about 10 years ago a a small venue in Albany NY. He was as good as always!!! I love his music.
I don't think Jackson Browne would classify you as a pretender. You pursue the "legal tender" in order to support and grow others - your loved ones, not simply focused on yourself. You see things and money as a means to an end, not an end in itself, which is what I think Browne is criticizing here. Materialism is pretending. Reminds me of the Guess Who's line in American Woman, "Colored lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else's eyes." Easy to get distracted from what really matters. How many times do we have to be told like this that we can't take it with us? Like @franlockhart1533 this is my favorite of his not only for the excellent music but the profound critique of what so many of us chase.
To this day…Jackson Browne songs make me emotional!
I love this so much it's almost painful to hear❤
My first vinyl. My uncle, who is only 10yrs older than me gave it to me after playing "Here Come Those Tears Again" I still have it. And I still tear up at both songs.
The whole album is that good. One of my all time favorites.
A slightly different message in it, but another self-reflection song is "The Stranger" by Billy Joel. It's about the faces we put on and whether we recognize the stranger within ourselves.
I have been waiting for this song, so thank you. This was featured in the movie "Mr Holland's Opus" if you have not seen it, you need to with Ali and a box of Kleenex.
Listen to Your Bright Baby Blues.
Agreed. Great song choice by your dude Scott. I was browsing your channel and video's . I love that you did Chicago 25or6to4!! You need more Chicago to hear the beautiful voice of the Lead Guitar Terry Kath, RIP. Please check out
"I'M A MAN", "Colour My World", "Make Me Smile".......such a great talent.
also, DO you know Steely Dan? I noticed you have not reacted to any Steely Dan. Hopefully you know THEM. they have at least 40 BANGERS. Not sure what to recommend, since they have SO MANY BANGERS.
Love watching him live on stage recordings.
One of my all-time favorite songs. Music was gospel-like. “Say a prayer for the Pretender”. Trying to find the soul/spiritual
connection in the noise of the daily routine. Your spiritual life is as or more important to survival as working for worldly goods.
Jackson's "Next Voice you Hear" is my anthem.
Great review Sebs! I love that you actually listen to these songs with the lyrics, for songs just like this one, which as you said, has deep lyrics that are poetry set to music. These lyrics are powerful and relatable. Love your channel 🙂
JB is part of the soundtrack of my youth. Love his song. He wrote so many insightful lyrics.
Bro , so happy youre checking out the most prolific writer of the 70s. What a poet he is
Love this song ! ❤
Sebs, I think you are right about the song having totally different meaning whether or not there is love in the family. I've watched some of the videos you did with your wife, from appearences, you nailed it.
Great reaction bro
Now that you know who the pretender is, I implore you to find out who the offender is. Warren Zevon “Desperados Under the Eaves“ they were literally referred to as The Pretender and the offender.
Again: ANOTHER of my FAVS!!! GREAT PICKS by your listeners, LATELY, SEBS!!! THANKS!! SO GOOD!!! HUGS!!
as I get older, the more this song makes sense and becomes more prescient