Why Teachers Unions Don't Want School Choice | 5 Minute Video
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Can every child receive a good education? With school choice and competition, yes. The problem? Powerful teachers unions oppose school choice. But when teachers and parents understand why school choice works, they support it. Rebecca Friedrichs, a public school teacher who took her case against the teachers union all the way to the Supreme Court, explains why school choice is the right choice.
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What if schools had to compete for students in the same way that businesses have to compete for customers? Would schools get better or worse?
There’s no need to guess.
In almost every state and city where there is competition today, educational outcomes improve - often dramatically. This competition is called school choice, and many states and cities now embrace it.
With the old model, under which most American children still live, the government - not the parent - decides which school children will attend.
Now, here’s how school choice works:
The money follows the student. Every child receives funding that their parents can direct to the school of their choice - public, private, charter or even homeschool.
According to researchers at the University of Arkansas - in the most comprehensive study done to date -- students in school choice programs saw their reading and math scores improve by 27 percent and 15 percent, respectively.
Sounds like something we should get behind, doesn’t it? But for millions of families in my home state of California and in many others, school choice is not a choice.
And there’s one reason why: teachers’ unions.
I’ve been a teacher for 28 years, and served as a leader in a local affiliate of the California Teachers Association -- so I’ve seen this problem from the inside. Teachers in California public schools are coerced to pay dues to the teachers’ unions. True, we cannot be forced to join, but we are forced to pay the union. Their fees are mandatory - and expensive. In California alone, the unions raise over 300 million dollars every year. What do the unions do with all that money? They lobby the government for more money - more money for public education. That might sound good, but it’s really just a smoke screen.
The National Center for Education Statistics reports that since 1970, public school attendance in the U.S. has gone up by just five percent, while public school employment has gone up 95 percent!
More public school employment means more dues for the unions. But does it mean better schools? Certainly not in California, which ranks 45th in the nation in reading and math despite spending over 55 billion dollars a year on education. That’s over 52% of the state’s total budget. Yet rarely is anyone held accountable for these dismal results. I’ve personally seen excellent, new teachers lose their jobs while incompetent, and even abusive, veteran teachers keep theirs because of the unions’ infamous “last in, first out” layoff and tenure rules.
For these reasons and more, parents almost always prefer school choice when allowed to choose. This is obviously true for wealthy parents who can afford to send their children to any school they want, but it’s equally true for middle class and poor parents when they have a choice. And here’s the real giveaway: public school teachers are less likely to send their children to public schools when given the choice.
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So you don't join the union, but you still gotta pay 'em? That's... That's completely senseless, and seems illegal at worst. Why is this a thing?
Well, the public school teachers do make a good deal more than their private school counterparts for starters...
[chshistoryteacher] Why does that mean they have to pay the Union if they aren't apart of it?
Because they are earning money and benefits that the union bargained for. And comparatively using private schools as our guide they would have fewer of both without the union.
(Caveat: Some leading private schools - Groton, Philips Andover, Philips Exeter et. al. pay more, but this is a small percentage of private schools)
This is what right to work laws are about. The make this BS illegal. It is a thing. Not just in schools. My husband worked at a place with a union. They were also forced to pay union dues, whether or not they were in the actual union.
Your husband should have had to pay union dues unless it was a closed shop. Probably had to pay fair share fees. FYI compare educational outcomes between collective bargaining states and right to work states.
so your telling me California one of the most democratic states is one of the least educated in math and reading... that might explain some things
So you believe a biased source that cherry picks all their data to fit their narrative, oh you are a Republican... that might explain some things.
TZ Talks "one of the most democratic states?"
Did you mean Democratic (as in the party)? If so, you are clearly right. If not...
VodShod You are aware of any studies that put Cali in the upper half? You don't have to listen to Prager to read reports putting in the bottom ten. I lived in Northern Cal for most of the last 40 years. These kinds of reports were put out in various media on a fairly regular basis.
Is school choice the answer? I don't know, but it would be hard to do worse than it is now.
TZ Talks I live in California buddy let me tell you , I now have 19 and 20 year olds that literally can’t read and I mean at ALL I see it on the daily
@@deputykirsanov7314 it's TRUE. I live in the Bay Area (Marin county,California, liberal headquarters) and most people down here are dumb asses that have no idea what they are talking about.
Thankfully, the US Supreme Court recently voted 5-4 that teachers who don't want to pay union dues do not have to.
Hopefully, this marks the beginning of the end for teachers' unions.
The fact that 4 justices voted for such a ridiculous position proves how screwed up our legal system is.
We don't want the end of teacher's unions. My sister is a teacher and believe me, teachers NEED unions. There's a reason school teachers were unionized back in the 70s, and it hasn't gone away: without it, they are at the mercy of administrators and school boards who are abusive, same as with any other labor union in the country. I don't know how my sister can stand it... there are no laws governing district administrator pay, for example, except the ones they make up. They can pay themselves whatever they please, while my sister's wages must be "negotiated" every year, and they scrape out barely cost of living. I'm for school choice, too, but teacher's unions need reform, certainly, but they sure as hell can't go away.
@@steelbeard151 You don't understand. The administration has gotten _vastly_ worse since the introduction of unions. Virtually all of the spending increases since then have been dumped into more administration rather than more teachers and things that aid those teachers. There are scores of teachers who quit because the administration does not allow them to actually teach, and the unions have done nothing. And the union advocates for Marxist doctrine to be taught in schools. Whatever the union claims to be or is doing, they're certainly not making anything better for teachers or students. The answer to bad administration is not unions. Maybe the answer is to get rid of the administrators' union: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Federation_of_School_Administrators
Regardless, no one should be _forced_ to join a union or pay dues to it.
@@BladeOfLight16 I'm not talking about the administrators who run the actual school my wife works at. They're all terrific people, and they have nothing whatever to do with the teacher's union. I'm talking about the district level administrators. In my wife's district, they are corrupt. If there were no teacher's union, believe me, the teachers would be very much worse off, totally at the mercy of these fools who could do as they pleased. It's bad enough now. Maybe at the state level, the union isn't helping... I wouldn't know. But the local teacher's union for my wife's district has done more for teachers than anybody. My wife wouldn't be a teacher if there were no unions.
@@steelbeard151 You really think the union isn't in bed with those people? BS. The union supports the politicians who appointed and hired those ass holes. It funnels tons of money to those politicians and supports increasing the budgets of those administrators.
Look, we're not even talking about abolishing the unions anyway. We're talking about having a choice as to whether an employee gives them money and joins or not. And denying someone that right is absolutely evil. If the union wants people to give it money, it should have to make them want to join.
I love how PragerU brings attention to issues that the mainstream media skips over.
Unions need the power of mass media to exist and will pay any amount (in advertising) to the media outlets to keep their campaign going.
True, but like the mainstream media, they have their own agendas to follow. If they were to remain unbalanced like the Caspian Report, it will be even better.
Mr Trugglez caspian report is not serious. It's a teenager who thinks he understands politics but he doesn't. He resumes it like this "russia and affiliates are the bad guys". Well, I agree that sometimes they are, but sometimes they aren't. And he's blind to this statement. He just hates Russians.
And yes Prager has his agenda, it's obvious. But his agenda seems to be globally good and balanced. And he has the ability to do things which makes him infinitely more valuable than caspian report.
To be honest, the "mainstream media" have covered this already. It's just that these kinds of problems are very long term and less visible, so they miss the 24h news cycle.
Check out John Oliver's bit on this (I know he's "just a comedian", but he does provide another viewpoint and interesting information on this issue).
Globally good is subjective, PragerU does make very wrong statements about electric cars not being Green and also their segment about Atheists being immoral. I would say that this message is more like the Right wing version of Vox (though Vox has better editing.) Biased and filled with agendas.
California is ranked 45th in the nation in reading and math? That explains so much!
Well also because they're multicultural
@@emperoralvis6559 savage but true
@@emperoralvis6559 I think you mean full of illegals.
KnottyDizzie Devil that’s only a problem because they have a massive welfare program. If they have a welfare program, illegals are unsustainable.
Yeah, we're kind of stupid.
Screw Common Core Who's With Me?!
Totally correct.
It screws their minds
I'm in 8th grade, and that's completely true
richard hare their
@@wooooshbait6171 thanks
Good teachers would bank in a market that rewarded skill. Stop giving teaches rewards for participation.
The problem is that the way the system is scored today. Would you want to be one of the Turpin Childrens teachers? Under the current system, you will be held accountable for their poor performance, as well as the drug baby that they sit next to, and the child sitting next to them that did not eat all weekend because SNAP funds were traded for drugs, who just got punched by the kid who's dad just got home from jail and needed someone to beat. This is reality in 2018. Are you really OK getting judged by these kids results?
I would say that depends on those who simply chose teaching as a job because they liked a subject in high school and simply found it to be a niche, or people who chose to at least attempt to make a difference. Your point is totally valid but a balance in participation and performance needs to exist for the benefit of us all. Frankly I think the current education system as a whole is almost useless and is no longer needed. You can access schooling over a PC, videos, tests, exams, person to person face time could be so easily achieved, no more costs for massive buildings electricity, etc only servers and a few personnel. I plan on teaching my own children throughout their life as Im fortunate enough to be capable of many complex topics and the school system will likely be just review and interaction, behavior and etiquette lessons , but who you think is going to take credit for that kid? Ive noticed its always the teachers hard work for a kid that does well and always the parents fault when they do poorly which I think can be true, but there is also a well known fact by all teachers that involved parents produce better students so where does the credit really lie? I hope what I said is fair and not without attempting to see from both sides but that is how I see it.
Chris Does What dude this would change the country. Shit, liberals beware, I'm going to talk actual history. A nazi said "He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future"
They don't, it's called "No child left behind."
That really means "No child gets ahead."
There was a completely incompetent teacher at my school who literally taught the facts wrong yet still got paid 60k a year.
As I'm sure there is at your employer, my employer, and just about every organization everywhere. Please don't use one bad teacher as an excuse
ChrisJennyWyattWesley Williams except everywhere else you get fired for being a fool
I had a teach who would tell us to read the textbook and answer the questions in it and then read a magazine all day
edit:teacher*
Well of coarse I did it, but I also thought to myself "they're paying this guy for this"
So... if you move to a neighborhood, and the school there is already full, are you going to have to go somewhere else farther away?
Her voice is very soothing. Also the phrase that comes to mind about "Teachers Unions" is "Absolute Power, Corrupts Absolute."
yes go with your feelings, forget sources, just believe everything they say. come to the Republican side we own your feels. Kill your logic and reasoning and join us.
VodShod isn't that the Democrat's side?
@@VodShod Dial a bureaucrat is the system promoted by democrats.
@@VodShod Really? Is that why teacher unions are trying to do away with standardized tests?
www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/education/teachers-unions-reasserting-themselves-with-push-against-standardized-testing.html
www.politico.com/news/2021/03/02/biden-standardized-tests-teachers-unions-472831
educationpost.org/unions-used-to-embrace-grading-teachers-with-tests-until-they-didnt/
Kill your logic and reasoning. If the tests show you're failing, ditch the tests. Just believe everything they say.
As a public school teacher, I agree 100%. School choice helps students, not hinders them. There are also a lot of terrible teachers who need to be weeded out.
Amanda Bateman for public school I paid $60 per year. If I had to go to private school it would have costed so much more. My family doesn't make much money how could I afford that?
@@manny3095 it's called a choice
I'm hot for teacher.
@@diregremo wtf
Manny Singh
People like you are hilarious. You talk about not being able to afford $60 a year for your child, but you have no issues affording the equipment and time to make music and try to sell it online. A zoom R8 is not cheap, and since you use garage band, that means you spend extra money for Apple products. It seems like your hobby is more important than your child homie. Good luck!
Teachers' Union
Or as I like to call it:
**An over glorified academic monopoly**
Bingo ( An employment agency for bureaucrats and Marxist professors)
I personally call them, 'the head of the propaganda machine'
Or the shortened version: The revolutionary soviet of teachers affiliated with the ministry of culture and education in the United soviet socialist republics of America
:DDDDDD
I personally despise all unions. We should try to abolish them like Margaret Thatcher, who is the best female leader of the 20th century.
@@Confederate-hj2dc I don't think unions are necessarily bad, it depends how they are managed. For example, take a look at the german model where unions are working side to side with the companies. Insome cases they are part of the board and make company decisions together. If things go good, they all benefit. If things go bad, they decide to work less hours or reduce their payment in orderto help the company. That has made Germany one of the strongest industry countries in the world.
Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
Colorado 28th in funding, but 2nd in quality and 1st in efficiency. CO is an example of a strong school choice state. You can thank the people for that and NOT the legislators
And its a democratic state that's doing well, if Cali wants to stay liberal, they better do what Colorado's doin
Am from Colorado and I agree
@@andrewstewart8798 The Centennial State thrives despite being a blue state, not because she is. Hell, she's pretty much a reddish purple
I like the Japanese system where you have to take entrance exams for most high schools and you have a choice of which schools to attend.
But Japanese spent MANY hours in schools...
*lukutiss1324,* in our country the Philippines. You choose the school first THEN take the entrance exam to see if you're qualified.
Dean Natuno can you pick more than one school if you don’t qualify for one?
lukutiss1324 and what happens if you can't pass the entrance exams?
We have the same system, you choose high school and then take entrance exam. You can of course choose more schools, one is usually easier one, so you have some last hope if you dont pass exam for the better school.
Math and reading aren't as important to liberals as teaching to vote for democrats.
Communist Party USA has admitted on their website that communist activists basically took over many of the teachers unions from as early as the 1920's, using the public schools to push their left wing ideology.
That is just silly
Curby Weaver critical thinking isn't important to conservatives as teaching that GOD appoints every president
@Gaming User that may be true. A 'vast' majority are, when their religious leader says this republican stands up for or embodies your religious freedom they tend to vote for that candidate in large numbers.
@Sebs Ignat: Unless, of course, it's a democrat president; who is always appointed by satan.
Public education is a near complete waste of time and just doesn't work. 34% of all public school students drop out. 65% of all incoming college freshman are remedial in basic skills. Govt mandated, one size fits all education is outdated, out-moded, and has NEVER been a successful idea from the outset. Most of what students learn is not applicable in the real world. Employers will tell you that even college grads are lacking the basic skills, knowledge, and attitudes needed to be successful in the workplace. With science and math the focus of most curriculum and less than 10% of all high school grades going into STEM fields (fields that can't find enough applicants as it is) what's the point? Keep in mind that the majority of those going into STEM jobs come from foreign sources. Schools are WAY behind the times and need a SERIOUS upgrade or America will continue to fall further and further behind the rest of the world.
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Exactly. The U.S. education system was made during the industrial revolution to help kids become good factory workers. In an increasingly more diverse economy, a system like that just doesn't work.
that’s why we change the US public education system
It works for the government, that’s why it will never get better
It’s time to propose a change in politics
@D M so I should copy the Chinese to pass
teachers unions ruined my education
Same. I don't know how they expect students to succeed when there are "rights groups" like this holding it back from us.
Same here I couldn't ever escape it at homeschool
Really? Are you sure that it didn't have more to do with you and your lack of effort and/or ability? It's very telling and a bit sad when someone can't take responsibility for their own outcomes in life.
Steve Nesich Funding vs effort. Which improves educational outcomes, and to what extent?I think effort, but we pay for the idea of funding.
Damn straight! I live in South Dakota and here, education is taken very seriously (sarcasm intended).
I just wish my highschool didn't have so many liberal social studies teachers
Teaching history about slavery?
my very conservative ex-special forces son was just hired by a PRIVATE school, where they boosted his pay to compete with the public juggernaut.
cloudshe.... where exactly is this private school that pays more than the public schools????? I want to apply and tell all my liberal and conservative friends to apply because ALL of the private schools around here from NC to DC pay LESS than public schools.
Vesco.... yeah, because Christianity is more peaceful than any other religion, a male dominated society is good, and I should not teach my daughter to think for her self and believe she can do anything in life she wants to and not have to depend on marrying a rich guy to take care of her. You know, you should step into a classroom sometime and see what is really being taught instead of listening to what the drive-by media tells you to believe. Just remember, the state mandates what is being taught, so if you don't like what your state or local government "shoves down their throats" and "force them to obey", then vote them out of office.
Would you mind sharing just where you got your information about Hindus and Buddhists? Judging from your comment, you don't seem to know much about the teachings of Islam. Western Christianity fostered hundreds of years of conflict and war in Europe, attempted to suppress scientific advancements, and was used to support slavery. That doesn't sound very peaceful in comparison to other religions to me. By the way, this is coming from a person who was baptized at 18, has taught Sunday School, and has traveled to N. Africa, Central Asia, and Central America on mission trips.
The problems I see with our education system :
1. Teachers who want to worry about their employment over actually teaching
2. People using teaching as a fallback when they dont know what they want to do with their life
3. Standardization - trying to teach everyone in a lazy system that bases every subject and person on a flawed scale. We need to realize not all subjects and people are the same
Government decides your school? Holy crap, not even the evil Soviets did that!
I asked my grandmother:
-So you had a few schools in the area. Could you choose where your children would go?
-Pff, of course dear! We could even choose their teachers.
Guess there were no unions in the Union...
AlHoresmi That's legitimately terrifying.
America: now with more top-down Soviet-style control.
PeacefulDrago yeah I'm also not a big fan of private schools, but your school system seems to be outright retarded looking from over here.
its worse in canada. You can choose what primary school to go to but when it comes to high school you cannot choose where to go the government does and you cannot transfer to another one either if you moved to another part of the city to the town over , you will be stuck in the same school.
Interesting. I asked my wife, who is Russian and who grew up in the Soviet Union. There are a few points which it would be good to include in order to understand Soviet school.
1. If there were several schools in your region, then the possibility of choice was there. But you stayed in your region.
2. There was a total number of pupils who could be accepted for each school, so it was on a "first come, first served" basis. Parents would camp out next to the director's office to get access to a school. If their child was one over the limit, he could not enter. And all the schools were filled, whatever the quality.
3. The same was true for the teachers. If there were several 1st grade classes, parents could choose, until the maximum for each class was reached.
4. In any case, the program in all the schools was the same, and the attempt was made to make sure that all classes went forward at the same pace, whatever the abilities of the pupils.
5. Ratios of teacher to pupils could be 1 to 20/25/30. There were no teaching aids. This meant, effectively, that several pupils received an education, and the rest received baby-sitting.
6. The organizations called unions - and they were everywhere - did not represent teachers, but the local office of the ministry of education.
My wife was good in math, and she hid the fact that her mother went to church. Thus she went on to an engineering school in Leningrad. The leaders of the class she entered with decided the program for the whole entering class. Keep in mind that the learners were all in Komsomol, hoping to enter the Communist Party after graduation.
All of which to say, you cannot begin to imagine the level of control the government aimed for. The pupils who escaped that were the ones who were passed up automatically from grade to grade, and after school went into the army (boys) or a nursing program (girls). The few kids at the top did exceedingly well. The rest became a semi-literate labor force. A certain number became good readers, and the were the main purchasers of editions of the Russian classics, which were published in fairly limited editions. Everybody else got drunk, went fishing, or otherwise frittered their life away.
My wife teaches in one of the public zoos in the Bronx. This video is spot on.
Shah-Allah Shabazz public zoo.... I love it
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! #PUBLICZOO
LOL
Fatou Barrie Learn how to box and do a lot of push ups. Once you have earned carnal respect, that will clear your lane for academics. Always remember, the end game is your education. It's a shame, but it is reality. Sometimes, you have to break a few jaws, to make people understand, how real it is.
It still would be better than private or competing schools.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_dismal_science/2014/07/sweden_school_choice_the_country_s_disastrous_experiment_with_milton_friedman.html
Everything "Union" just seem fishy, nowadays
Yes, they trained an army to fight when an army was needed. After they won, they never learned how to stop fighting. Always searching for and finding another target to attack. Especially anyone in their organization that does not demonstrate the "right mindset."
Rebecca, I hope you don't lose your job and get blacklisted for this - for supporting school choice, for blasting teachers unions, and for appearing in coordination with a conservative outlet.
Good luck fighting the good fight!
A lot of teachers seem pretty lazy and seem like they gave upon their dream of helping kids.
Ксения Ковалевская are you russian?
El Pingu brilliant.
Ксения Ковалевская noice
Ксения Ковалевская hey i dont speak russian for all I know you could be ukranian
It's because all of the teachers that wanted to help students jumped ship a long time ago. They're at international schools now.
This should be their motto.
Teache's Union: "Puttin the teacher's job before your child's education."
I wonder if the same people who disapprove of vouchers are the ones fighting for "free college"?!?
Most likely.. good question!!
The true pro-choice movement.
Nick Grisanti
Pro-choice 2.0 _this one's not about murdering babies!_
Been going to schools that tell me to have "school pride" when I want to go to better schools that actually have useful electives.
teacher unions are the worst thing for schools.
I'm a peculiar case. I was pulled from Floridas public school system to be homeschooled. Mainly because of extreme racism in my school. I had moved to Florida from Alabama and found myself in a school around 80% African American and then entire school I was put in was probably poverty level. I distinctly remember at least 2 teachers that failed me for the sole fact I wasn't black, and I wasn't alone in this failure. After being pulled from the school I flourished! I completed a high school education before I was 15 by Florida standards and then enrolled into community college at 16 because of boredom.
Years later I have come to see and understand the absolute failure of location based schools. And have found and met probably the future leaders of the free world in and around a private school setting and will focus my raising of my children in this area.
Wow, saddened to hear about your situation. I, myself, have ran into a few teachers I'd liked to been fired and this is coming from someone's whose parents taught in public schools. I think a lot of these schools are a waste of time. Which schools did you attend if you don't mind stating them.
I live in Arkansas and I support school choice!
Yee-Haw
We'r dem Horsies at!?
I'm from Missouri and I don't because both the public and private schools are crap.
You get to choose between crappy underfunded public schools or overpriced private schools with an STD epidemic.
@@Rainkit some problems in Missouri are different then some problems in Arkansas
I've been homeschooled since the 4th grade. I am now duel-enrolled in a charter school partnering with us homeschoolers which is allowing me to take college classes. With a combined 3.8 GPA, I'm looking at getting my Associates Degree before I graduate high school. Looking back when my Mom first plucked me from the public school system, I breathe a sigh of relief every single time since I left. Homeschooling worked wonders for me, you should get to decide if it'll work for you too.
I home schooled my children until I found a good charter school in our area. I developed a rigorous curriculum based on the texts used in public school, but went beyond that. As a result, when my children took the standardized tests at the end of the home school year as proof that I actually was teaching them, they had excellent scores and easily got into the charter school I found. I say all this to point out that home school worked for us only because I am a stay at home mom and I was available to spend all this curriculum planning and instructional time for my children. For moms who work outside the home and/or don't have a husband for support, home school is usually impossible. State funds were never available to me to help with home school expenses. We pay tax into the system just like every other person, but we only benefit from what we pay in if we put our children into the horrible public system. So in effect, we paid twice, but I don't regret it.
I think it would be a good idea to just open the schools to moms and give them a salary even if it's just minimum wage. That way the mother not only gets to spend time with the child, but she also gets to observe the development of the child and help their child along the way since I know teachers can't do it all. For moms/women who may want a career, the schools need to adjust to there work hours 5:30 or 6pm.
Jim Nicholas a
All of a sudden 'hot for teacher' by Van Halen comes to mind...
I know right? I knew I wasn't the only one thinking this...
You got that right!
only you can stop corporate espionage.
I am a former teacher. My children went to private school. SO MANY TEACHERS KIDS ARE IN PRIVATE SCHOOL
all that money and they still complain!!!???
Antonio Inostros Are you talking about the top 1%?
Antonio Inostros 55 billion is alot but not as much as it sounds
It will NEVER be enough. No matter how much money you throw at these kinds of organizations they will always whine and moan that they need more to 'fix the problem', but the problem will never even be addressed because if they did then they wouldn't be able to keep getting more money.
Joe6168 The majority of the money will be used to increase managers pay. That's a flaw for any organization. But Schools don't get as much funding as they need or deserve.
That's Californians for ya!
Teacher:*slaps three children and tells all the boys there evil human beings who shouldn't exist"
Parents: wtf rly?
Union: I see no problems *continues paying them 60k a year*
I'm kind of curious to know people's opinion's on this: Do you think the passage of the laws requiring public schools to take kids with disabilities, in the early '70's, could've been a missed opportunity for the U.S to adopt a voucher system? Was there anybody back then, saying that disabled kids should get vouchers to go to private schools instead? I think if that had happened, people would've realized the benefits of school choice a lot sooner. And over time more and more things would've qualified as disabilities until it reached the point where almost anyone could qualify for a voucher. Did anyone ever try that in the '60's or '70's?
Melissa0774 private schools usually dump their special education kids onto public schools because private simply don't have the funds to meet an IEP
The whole point of IDEA (the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) was that children with disabilities should have access to FAPE (a Free and Appropriate Public Education) in the LRE (Least Restrictive Environment).
No. The disabled was hidden. I think they stayed home. I didnt see a disabled student till i was in high school. ?! I went to private school of nuns. 60s. Very strict.
People probably would but I cant say I oppose making PUBLIC schools except disabled kids.I mean the parents of that disabled kid are paying for the public schools just as much as everyone else.
Drrty Dan
As a former educator myself, I wholeheartedly support the right of parents to teach their children as they see fit. Having many options for teaching children is always a good thing.
What an attractive, intelligent lady. Obviously NOT a leftist.
Have you seen Sarah Palin? Ugly and dumb.
Loyalty to the state always. Loyalty to one's' self second.
What an attractive, informed, and super-intelligent lady. I am a leftist, and I concur. :)
Oh how ironic, as soon as I finish watching this video TH-cam started playing one of those "Sweet Sounding" Ads she was talking about for the Teachers' union.
From a Catholic perspective: Church teaching and Canon Law say that parents are responsible for their childrens' education, and Catholic children are supposed to be taught the faith in a Catholic school. Unfortunately because of Vatican II most "Catholic" schools that remain open to this day follow the prep-school format where they'll take anyone with $$$ regardless of faith, while faithful, working-class pew sitters cannot afford tuition at a Catholic school. The ones who get financial aid from the diocese are always minorities with no religious test, while a Catholic family who attends Mass every Sunday and prays a family Rosary gets no help, so they end up in the public schools, where they can be suspect to pretty much anything. This is why many Catholic families today are now homeschooling, even though I personally would not prefer it I support their constitutional rights of parents to choose their child's school. Today with Common Core (which unfortunately most Catholic schools now use) there's more propaganda than actual instruction.
45th in education, that's explains a lot about California. and people think things about us southerners lol
That's what you get for being a sanctuary state...
I'm from California and my former teachers had to fight for our elective classes and team up with colleges to have college credit classes. Not only that the teachers had to apply for grants and scholarship just to get the classes because we're an low funded school.
school choice sounds like a step in the right direction hopefully we will see the the government is an unnecessary middle man in this and cut them out
Union leader: When kids pay union dues we'll worry about the kids.
School choice is absolutely vital to school reform. Better performance is forced by market conditions.
indeed
RealEstateInsider247 - so ... why are Charters that provide that "choice" thundering failures according to undeniably sound data?
Profiteering off our children and demonizing public servants might have something to do with it.
That is simply not true. Given competition, the better schools will win; whether they are public, private, charter ... doesn't matter. The better schools will win. Profiteering argument is bogus. I don't know what you think is demoralizing about teaching. I assume you are associated with a teacher's union. I'm not interested in debating something so obvious.
The main reason schooling is public is because if we privatize education, it will disproportionately hurt the poor. Schooling is a cost that no one wants to pay for, so the government takes over it for obvious reasons. This is why governments take over basic things like education, the military, diplomacy, and other matters.
"Better performance" is an outright lie and you know it. And every for-profit charter school has failed to perform anywhere near the standards public schools operate under. Missouri has outlawed then because the profiteering off children was deemed to be pure fraud. So get informed instead of barking out borrowed opinions and embarrassing yourself buddy-roo.
I've dealt with these school choice charter schools in my career in law enforcement. They are horrible. Their primary goal is profit. They often are fly by night get rich quick schemes with little to no accountability. Education and student safety comes second to that. The public schools have been far better to work with as a cop because they are accountable to the public rather than profit.
I'd rather have people we vote for, accountable to the public, running our schools than people whose primary goal is profit.
When decisions are made with profit as the goal, educating all of our children gets left behind.
Pro-Choice when killing children is the issue.
Anti-Choice when educating children is the issue.
Doublethink in action.
a right wing person from California? mind blown
Being right-wing is not something to celebrate.
Being a left-wing is not something to celebrate.
The point is, making critical comments lacking content doesn't do anything but piss people off
You know there's millions of people here and acres upon acres of rural area, right?
WHAAAAAAAT
Keven Zhao I know right. I almost fainted when I learned Ben Shapiro was from California.
I want to go to the school my dad went to as a kid, Glenbard South. A historic school on a hill. Was on the first reality TV show. It also was in the movie, Lucas. It's by railroad tracks too.
It also is close to home. But no, instead I will be going to Batavia High School, in an ugly modern building, with a terrible design. I want School Choice!
That's Glenbard West. GBS is off Butterfield Rd.
@@devinwalleck4118 Oh thanks.
I really dont understand why a voucher system is so controversial. I legitimately would like to hear a counter argument. it sounds a lot like how we do college
It's controversial because it challenges the income of the all mighty teachers unions.
Joseph Fox
Because private schools aren't legally held to the Same standard as public schools. They aren't required to release progress of students. They can teach whatever they want.
Incoming union shills! Duck!
'It's all about the children"Except when job security,tenure,vacation and pay scales are in play.
Another thing that Teacher's unions are preventing is the reopening of schools.
Most teachers I work with (teacher here) dislike School Choice... I wonder why, though...
zhbvenkhoReload because its going to discard poor children.
are they good teachers tho
I know this is late but, I do know that feeling. I wen to public school my whole life and it felt like I was locked with animals (no offense to anyone). My 9th grade English teacher was an utter pushover. Letting kids go to lunch(s) even when there was supposed to be a lecture, and my reading and writing skills was horrible. I didn't start learning how to read and write as soon as I went into a private college. That saved me from shame.
As a Europoor I am surprised America doesnt have this, how can the state dictate which school you go to? that doesnt scream "freedom" at all to me, then again almost none of what America is today does
Yes, I remember the days when schools had no union and it was the best. Teachers displained children and corrected bad behavior.
If I was a political leader I would just call up a citizen militia to force the Unions to do what the public wants.
while no union is perfect, it is needed to protect teachers against vindictive administrators.
I like her voice it's very soothing
Ex teacher here ... yep, she speaks the pure TRUTH here ... so LISTEN, and liberals, stop destroying our next generations in the name of political correctness ... please :-)
Please stop destroying the the future by blindly following this fake university who cherry pick data. Dont believe me? Look up any of their sources. The sources are either from a biased source or they cherry pick the information.
One study they say charter schools are better than public schools, where their statistic is international. They don't mention that the US charter schools on average do the same or worse than public schools depending on the subject. They use international data so they can make it seem that charter schools are doing great in america.
Unions was a system that originated in England in the early 1760s not long after the industrial revolution began and was introduced to restrain people in workplaces rather than benefiting them.
Public Charter Schools are a viable option to your Local Educational Agency ( the schools you and I attended). Charter schools are smaller, have a focused curriculum, and attend to student needs more effectively. A former employee of both models, I know this to be true. The Teacher's Union is ineffective in supporting ALL teaching staff.
I'm not a fan of unions, but making turning education into a business isn't the answer in my opinion. I mean just look at how College's and Universities are, I"m sure PragerU has even mentioned it, all the damn money they get doesn't go into improving education quality, but becomes a building race. They try to make their school look as nice and fancy as possible just to attract students. Sure improvements are made with each new building, but I doubt it's worth the cost.
Also were already seeing the problem of media being a business. These 24 hour news cycles just run stories that will get the most coverage and no longer prioritize what's important. Similar with click bait on the internet.
I think the source of our education problem is just our culture. We don't value education as much as we value sports and entertainment, (which is part of what makes America great and keeps us innovating). A bad teacher is no excuse to get a freaking D.
fizman22
That's an interesting perspective
I'm a Libertarian and I agree. Just look at what happened to places like National American University and for-profit schools.
Those colleges and universities would be far more pragmatic with their expenditures if they didn't get so much government aid.
Education is already a business. Companies like Pearson and McGrawHill make good profits by supplying "education" material to the public schools.
That's true but then you have the issue of secondary education not being accessible to most Americans. If the cost were lowered to the amount it would be had the government not stepped in it could still be too expensive for many. I'm not sure though. I do know though that it would be nice if kids could pay for school with a part time or summer job like they used to.
Oh and ffs get rid of text books. It's seriously criminal how schools expect kids to pay up hundreds of dollars for information that's freakin free online for a course.
School choice sounds amazing. When my parents were tired of paying for private school tuition, it was decided I'd attend public school, like my brother. But there was a problem: the public schools we were in the district in sucked a lot. My parents managed to get a condo to enroll my brother and I into the neighboring county's public schools.
What we really need to solve this problem is more administrators!
Is there anything we shouldn't move towards free-market strategies?
The theory is great, but it doesn't work when venture capitalists are vying for all that federal money. In my state, 27 percent of charter schools failed within the first 3 years and some one walked away with tons of cash
Government just needs to protect us and stay out of our business
As a young person, I am so thankful to have great resources like this one to teach me what it really means to be a conservative. With so many young people joining the liberal ban wagon, I'm glad y'all post these videos. Thank you for what you do and keep teaching.
yes it is true that something is going wrong behind the scenes with unions, but unions are necessary and ensure fair wages. it is ridiculous to say that the flaws with unions are unfixable, and to ignore the benifets of unions.
Most people have no idea what school choice is
Call your reps and tell them to approve Devos.
shes a lobbyist and a business owner.
Good lord, NO!
no need to call anyone, she bought the dept of education fair and square
Yeah, the school system kinda sucks. In my math and ELA class, we're currently learning about useless stuff we would never do in real life... I'm in 8th btw. Also currently residing in Northern California.
What are you learning about? Because if it's 8th grade level it is probably fundamental to life outside of school
It should go to the Supreme Court again.
School districts are School Segregation who's with me??
Here's how it works. If the students have a choice then in order to be chosen, a school needs to be good. Well, technically, it only needs be better than its competitors, but the competitor will try to be better as well. But regardless, this means that schools will have to get better to get students, and thus, money.
yaksher - Facts are usually simple. Libs hate facts.
Thats funny, coming from a conservative president that just put a gag order on scientists research being publicized.
“Scientific publications, released through peer reviewed professional
journals are not included” in the communications moratorium, Christopher
Bentley, director of communications for ARS told TheDCNF.
So just settle down.
HumbuckerGuy It still bans publication from EPA and DOA scientists
On social media. Whoop-de-doo. Is that where you get all your "science"?
What about the fact that schools are funded based on the property taxes of the neighborhood they're in? Don't pretend most students in districts with well-funded schools won't end up staying close to home. So, what happens to students in low-income areas for whom "choice" isn't possible due issues like a lack of workable commuting options, the need to look after younger siblings bcz their parents (or "parent" singular) have to work every possible moment they can to survive bcz they only make $7.25 an hr? Or the family needs them to work after school as well?
@Based Adonis Why not change the system so that all schools are funded equally?
PragerU: doesn’t site sources, presents biased information.
Conservatives: seems legit
They do not have to site sources due to their use of primary sources.
James Shaw what? You still have to cite your sources. Go back to playing roblox
Watch The West Wing’s “Full Disclosure” (5th season, 15th episode).
In that episode, a Democratic president agreed to the plea of a Democratic mayor to allow “school choice” in his own city.
Go talk to a public school student in a large city then tell
Me how intelligent they are.
School choice is what allowed me to go to the first public Japanese Immersion school in the USA. School choice is amazing and helps students and parents pick the correct education for children.
This has got to stop. Public schools are a mess, why can't we try something different?
another great video, simply full of facts and reason. now lets see what the liberals have to say.
To be honest, I enjoy the video but they brushed over some facts to prove their point
They said that California ranked 45th in the country but they didn't account for the fact that the standards for California are much higher than most other states who have very lax curriculums
Cherrypicked facts, albeit facts. They forgot to mention how part of California's huge education budget goes to its great public university system, with cheap CSU's and CC's. Furthermore, UCLA, UC Berkeley, and UCSD are considered the ivies of the west and are consistently ranked top 10 (Berkeley is usually top 4) in STEM programs across the world.
They do have a point though, in that California public K-12 schools are still trash.
Jesse Zhang How can students at Berkeley learn anything when they are mostly demonstrating against any and everything that is conservative?
Glenn Lego they're not, and notice I talked about stem. With 40,000 students, you really think all 40k are protesting? It's an extremely vocal minority.
I am an Austrian (European) teacher and I can tell you, everything she says sounds fine and dandy, though in reality it's really not like this. You see, we have free school choice here, and all the schools do is lowering their standards to attract as many students as possible. Since more students equals more funding, almost everyone gets a free pass. Many respected schools have lost their status and are now filled to the brim with people that do not belong there.
So I can assure you, the only way to make sure your children recieve the best education possible, is to send them to private schools for which you have to pay for.
I know this may sound dire, though this is reality.
Please quit lying on the internet.
what would you do as an educator competing for more students? would you lower the standards to attract more students or would keep your standards high to ensure the quality of your education?
AaronArcLOL it's quite a dilemma. if you want more students, lowering standards works pretty well. Though this leads to bad classes. You may also set high standards, to attract really students and their parents. This however, does not work for all schools, since there are not nearly as many good students as there are bad ones.
Imo the future of education lies in schools, funded by parents.
6doublefive3two1 What makes you think I'm lying?
Your sloppy writing style is wrought with unnecessary reassertions no teacher would make.
In my home town in socal the school admin got paid over 200k a year, meanwhile our school band had to do fundraisers back to back to stay operating.
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I am a teacher and not a member of the NEA. The problem I see with school choice is that first, do these schools have to take EVERY student who applies, or can they pick and choose? I promise that MY scores would be through the roof if I could give a simple application test before hey could attend.
I know a woman whose son has Asperger's, and was refused at a charter school because his condition made him cost prohibitive. Will the schools competing for my tax dollars have to take every kid?
Secondly, this system is based on every parent being a good parent, concerned with their child's education. I have parents who pull their students out of school every year, because I was being too tough on their child. So do I lose the competition because I want my kids to succeed at a higher rigor? Or worse, because they don't like telling their child "No"?
This brings up my third problem. Accreditation. When the aforementioned parents realize they cannot just give their child ten worksheets they got from a home school website while they themselves go to work (or whatever), they bring them back. Now the child is six months behind, no better disciplined, and MY problem. Do I really have to compete with that kind of thing around my neck?
I am usually conservation on almost every issue and love Prager, but on this issue, I have some serious concerns that I do not feel like the right or the left is dealing with. When I try and discuss it with my conservative friends, the best answer I get is, "Yes those are problems, but the system is so broken that we have to do something, and we can sort those details out later." A lot of kids will graduate while you are "sorting".
This is a propaganda video about privatizing our education system! Most of the arguments they use are opinion based!
YES! YES! YES! This is it exactly and few understand!
Even FDR refused to countenance public employee unions because the conflict of interest was too great.
Aren't private schools crap? And don't the teachers get paid crap?
Manny Singh not all of them
yathusan thulasi well if im poor then i get a crap school. so wtf?
Well, I go to a very small (about 100 students) private school and yes teachers get paid poorly, but the education is much better than public school in the area.
wont i have to pay a butt ton? should the public option still be there?
Some of them are great, but in my area, they are phenomenally expensive. Harker costs $50,000 per year.
teachers in California aren't teachers in the rest of the nation.
also, this is mostly opinion based argument.
what you really want is to get rid of the government based Union. not Unions in general.
I actual think this video is more about privatizing our education system! Which I do not agree with and be an absolute disaster!
Parent's choice, not the government's.
hopefully with trump in office we can improve our schools, and bring ourselfs back up in the world in education.
The least educated president we've ever had doing the most improvement for education?
it could happen
Trump the authoritarian won't fix schools.
another prageru basically lying video.
could you be more precise?
Please advise what specifically PragerU is lying about? Or does the truth just hurt too much?
As a person who has been mentally and emotionally damaged by abusive teachers... I have to say that school administrators should ALWAYS be allowed to fire a teacher. Unions be damned.
I’ve stated for most of my life that the unions don’t belong in our education system. Maybe, finally it’s resonating!
I thought collective bargaining was a constitutional right.
@@darkgalaxy5548 it sure is….but that doesn’t mean it belongs in the educational system. Ever heard the saying, “just because something is legal, it doesn’t make it right.”
@@cantstandya1983 Well, actually this appears to be more than just legal, but a Constitutional right. Of course in Eastern Europea, the 1st thing the commies did was to nullify the unions.
My Father said, "You're NOT going to public school (JHS)." I did very well !
My Grandma said, "To Hell with school district rules. You're going to THIS school."
I did very well !
unions should never be mandatory in ANY way.
in my senior year of HS, I was talking to my comp sci teacher who just had his second kid and we were talking about this subject. He said there is no way in hell he is putting his kids in public school and has been saving to put them in private school.
2:44 That's exactly what's going on in my school!
I'm in an Independent study program, at a Charter school. Many good teachers just either moved to other schools, out of the state, or retired.
Now all the teachers for my program left are those who can't grade on time.
They rarely question why many assignments of students aren't up, and one teacher, I used to have, blatantly wanted to fail me for asking many times "while I do my test, could you please grade my work?"
They don't want to known of they're faults, when they know it's true.
I think its time that cameras be installed in classrooms to monitor teachers in grades k1 - 12 …. to ensure a fair and non-abusive learning environment. Parents cannot trust what children are being taught
As a teacher, I've seen our public schools and I've experienced some of the corruption that goes on in our current system. This is desperately, DESPERATELY needed. There's a reason why teachers are leaving public schools in droves. In certain parts of my city, it's so bad that they are hiring multiple long-term subs to fill the ranks. At one school they couldn't even get the long-term subs to come because the school environment was so out of control. They started hiring an army of different subs every single day, so that the students never had a single teacher for more than a handful of days at a time. It is CHAOS out there.
I taught school once. I was not quite "shamed" for not joining the North Carolina Assoc of Ed but, was told " you don't want to join 'your' assoc?"
I'm so tired of seeing these bumper stickers that say "If you can read this, thank a teacher." No, I'll thank my grandmother who taught me to read and write at a 7th grade level prior to beginning elementary school. If I were to learn at the pace of public education I wouldn't be able to write this here.
Sad, just sad, people are very very brainwashed about unions
D0land0 I’m not familiar with teachers union structure. I belong to a labor union because of my craft and I pay hard money for my division to represent our best interests I.e. work rest cycles guaranteed mandatory off duty days. Yes we earn better than average we sacrifice more time than average and we pay more taxes than average people. First in last out is called seniority and that is a benefit you pay for. The only people I ever hear see bitching about union jobs are the ones that can’t get them or business owners and stockholders.