Kinda sure u have by now figured out that for a substitute of a two hook flapper, you can have two pulley rigs in tandem. (Say top is 3 foot main rig body, then the lower body MUST be less than 3 foot. Snoods always need be at least a bit shorter than pulley. Tandem Pulley rigs quite often catch bigger fish on the higher up hook. (Yeah.. same with hugging flappers, the upper two usually catch most.)
@@Jaak_the_Belgian that is not actually something I have tried, maybe I’ll experiment once the winter fishing gear comes back out of the shed :-) thanks for the tips 👍🏼
@@CoastlineFishing wherever you are, the one IN the mud gets only mud.. The one higher up to rod is out... However, lower of the tandem at two feet rigbody usyally stays afloat of sand and mud here (gets flounder and dabs on reeking baits), yet the top snood on longest body has more reach and also gets attention, but more often gets whiting than dabs.) I have done three in tandem on 5 meter rods, but believe me, when bite is on ya soon drop the short lower two footer and fish the more sensitive upper two. (Yep, tandem pulley do work in three flapper mode, and the closer to weight, the least sensitive. The MOST effective is two in tandem. Ya gonna be amazed when the bite is on. Casts like a dream, retrieves with fish (es) always below the weight. Tandems Work with tridend and IMP. I do prefer Trident nowadays, but when I have to use small... really small size hooks, then gemini (can sometimes not release when clay got in between metal slides) or IMP (not for OTG casts)... can work better.
@@Jaak_the_Belgian we are really rocky here so I have always defaulted the the pulley pennel just to get out of the snags a bit better. You are dead right though, the higher up hooks often get the flounder and dab even up here in Scotland. If I get the chance between diving, foraging and the kids I’ll experiment with some of your options 👌🏼
@@CoastlineFishing... Yeah, I think you gonna be pleased. IN tandem just means one behind other. I done three IMP in tandem in 68 wide yard canals, with 2 oz weigts and all hooks (with nightcrawlers) were released. The lip apparently needs not much water pressure to pus out the hook (since it kinda kust travels along... streamlined) I tried up to three IMP in tandem with 3 oz long tailed weights in 70 yard canal, and that worked. Three in tandem gemini in same setup, well, the one closest to rod did not always release. And I also found that gemini more easily seize because of trapped clay or sand. One has to test slide freedom before lock. Right now I have not yet tried three tridend roto in tandem with small weight on 70 yard canal, and that is because ROTO can trap, or in other words... not release very small size J style hooks, on under 100 gram weights. (100 gram is well under 3 Oz) At the beach and harbour jetty, I normally use 6 oz, and at jumptide up to 8 oz, but I rarely use three hook tandems. There were times I had a rod really close in in crazy fast running tide, and one further out, with same long snoods, but different speed current.. Reading the water was not my strobg thing, probably never will. Got whitey and bass near jetty stones, and dabs belhind sandbank further out. All below keep size. But hey, it was fun.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked the video. Oh that is a shame….hopefully it comes down in price a bit soon….but not much is getting cheaper now days!
My rule of thumb is keep it simple, only use pre stretched rig body/shock leader for making rigs. Less metal and plastic is better. For the average caster a bait release system like your using won't gain any distance maybe 10yards
I like using this trident tackle as it’s so strong, yet to have one straighten out on me and the ease of the quick release for the hook length is handy. Admittedly I rarely clip my rigs down now and you are right, the advantage is probably minimal.
@@paulpaula2011 I was just giving my opinion bud fair enough though. Personally wouldn't be casting a 4-8oz lead near ant bathers incase of line breakage
Hi Ben I saw on the site of Trident Tackle that there are 4 colors for the Roto Bait Clip I assume this has to do with the hook large which fits in I usually use cox & roll 4/0-3/0 as a bait hook and a 2/0 or 3/0 circle hook as a pen hook what color for these hooks or which color is the largest of the Roto Bait Clip
Hi, The colours are purely your choice, the roto bait clip is the same size in each colour. I use a 4/0 pennel and a 6/0 Sukuma mantra extra main hook and it just fits in the roto so you’ll will be fine with a 4/0 C&R. If I was using anything thicker I would use the Trident Tackle “kicker” as that will hold a bigger hook 👍🏼
@@CoastlineFishing Think about least snaggy. Ever since I changed to trident.. I have the least snaggy bit top of the snood. My shock leader has a power swivel, my older rigs now have trident or was made snag free using genie upside down, to make them snag free... U CAN use old stuff along with Trident. Just try make it snag free.
Very good video indeed sir!. I have just made my own and they ar without doubt the best pulley pennel rig out there. Just one thing slightly off the beaten track, what are the Dynaform links for and can I use them in place of the aeropulley?
Thank you for the comment and watch, glad you enjoyed it. The Dynaform are I would say their new and improved aero pulley, it has a small stainless ring in it to help reduce the friction even more. Works really well if your using thicker line. Hope that helps, Cheers
Hopefully you are able to take something useful from this video. Any questions then please feel free to pop them below. Thanks
Kinda sure u have by now figured out that for a substitute of a two hook flapper, you can have two pulley rigs in tandem. (Say top is 3 foot main rig body, then the lower body MUST be less than 3 foot. Snoods always need be at least a bit shorter than pulley. Tandem Pulley rigs quite often catch bigger fish on the higher up hook. (Yeah.. same with hugging flappers, the upper two usually catch most.)
@@Jaak_the_Belgian that is not actually something I have tried, maybe I’ll experiment once the winter fishing gear comes back out of the shed :-) thanks for the tips 👍🏼
@@CoastlineFishing wherever you are, the one IN the mud gets only mud.. The one higher up to rod is out... However, lower of the tandem at two feet rigbody usyally stays afloat of sand and mud here (gets flounder and dabs on reeking baits), yet the top snood on longest body has more reach and also gets attention, but more often gets whiting than dabs.) I have done three in tandem on 5 meter rods, but believe me, when bite is on ya soon drop the short lower two footer and fish the more sensitive upper two. (Yep, tandem pulley do work in three flapper mode, and the closer to weight, the least sensitive. The MOST effective is two in tandem. Ya gonna be amazed when the bite is on. Casts like a dream, retrieves with fish (es) always below the weight. Tandems Work with tridend and IMP. I do prefer Trident nowadays, but when I have to use small... really small size hooks, then gemini (can sometimes not release when clay got in between metal slides) or IMP (not for OTG casts)... can work better.
@@Jaak_the_Belgian we are really rocky here so I have always defaulted the the pulley pennel just to get out of the snags a bit better.
You are dead right though, the higher up hooks often get the flounder and dab even up here in Scotland.
If I get the chance between diving, foraging and the kids I’ll experiment with some of your options 👌🏼
@@CoastlineFishing... Yeah, I think you gonna be pleased. IN tandem just means one behind other. I done three IMP in tandem in 68 wide yard canals, with 2 oz weigts and all hooks (with nightcrawlers) were released.
The lip apparently needs not much water pressure to pus out the hook (since it kinda kust travels along... streamlined)
I tried up to three IMP in tandem with 3 oz long tailed weights in 70 yard canal, and that worked. Three in tandem gemini in same setup, well, the one closest to rod did not always release. And I also found that gemini more easily seize because of trapped clay or sand. One has to test slide freedom before lock. Right now I have not yet tried three tridend roto in tandem with small weight on 70 yard canal, and that is because ROTO can trap, or in other words... not release very small size J style hooks, on under 100 gram weights. (100 gram is well under 3 Oz)
At the beach and harbour jetty, I normally use 6 oz, and at jumptide up to 8 oz, but I rarely use three hook tandems. There were times I had a rod really close in in crazy fast running tide, and one further out, with same long snoods, but different speed current.. Reading the water was not my strobg thing, probably never will. Got whitey and bass near jetty stones, and dabs belhind sandbank further out. All below keep size. But hey, it was fun.
That was a brilliant video Ben! Great, easy to follow demonstration of how to make up a complex but essential rig and really interesting to watch!
Thank you 😊 I am glad that you found it useful. Thanks for watching.
Good video mate👍
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼 🎣
Good explanation and demonstration mate 🙌
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it, hopefully you find it helpful. 👍🏼
Great , Thanks for Video , Unfortunately Trident are not Posting to Ireland at moment ,Unless you pay £16(99% ) courier fee .
Thanks for watching, glad you liked the video. Oh that is a shame….hopefully it comes down in price a bit soon….but not much is getting cheaper now days!
My rule of thumb is keep it simple, only use pre stretched rig body/shock leader for making rigs. Less metal and plastic is better. For the average caster a bait release system like your using won't gain any distance maybe 10yards
I like using this trident tackle as it’s so strong, yet to have one straighten out on me and the ease of the quick release for the hook length is handy. Admittedly I rarely clip my rigs down now and you are right, the advantage is probably minimal.
Clipping down is not just about distance is it, its as much about keeping the bait nicely presented and stop bits flying off on to sunbathers!
@@paulpaula2011 I was just giving my opinion bud fair enough though. Personally wouldn't be casting a 4-8oz lead near ant bathers incase of line breakage
Hi Ben I saw on the site of Trident Tackle that there are 4 colors for the Roto Bait Clip
I assume this has to do with the hook large
which fits in I usually use cox & roll 4/0-3/0
as a bait hook and a 2/0 or 3/0 circle hook as a pen hook
what color for these hooks or which color is the largest of the Roto Bait Clip
Hi, The colours are purely your choice, the roto bait clip is the same size in each colour. I use a 4/0 pennel and a 6/0 Sukuma mantra extra main hook and it just fits in the roto so you’ll will be fine with a 4/0 C&R. If I was using anything thicker I would use the Trident Tackle “kicker” as that will hold a bigger hook 👍🏼
Why not use 2 terma links on the rig body and swivels on the hook snoods
Funny you say that as I have recently made a slight adjustment and do just that now 👍🏼 unfortunately couldn’t redo the video! Thanks for watching.
@@CoastlineFishing Think about least snaggy. Ever since I changed to trident.. I have the least snaggy bit top of the snood.
My shock leader has a power swivel, my older rigs now have trident or was made snag free using genie upside down, to make them snag free...
U CAN use old stuff along with Trident. Just try make it snag free.
Very good video indeed sir!. I have just made my own and they ar without doubt the best pulley pennel rig out there. Just one thing slightly off the beaten track, what are the Dynaform links for and can I use them in place of the aeropulley?
Thank you for the comment and watch, glad you enjoyed it.
The Dynaform are I would say their new and improved aero pulley, it has a small stainless ring in it to help reduce the friction even more. Works really well if your using thicker line. Hope that helps, Cheers