Best Practices for Page Object Model - UI Automation (Mobile & Web) - Whiteboard Learning

In this video, I have explained about best practices for page object model for Web and Mobile Automation.
Please find the link below for POM described by Marin Folwer:
martinfowler.c...

[@AmanSaxena-qk9tm]

Oh Naveen !! How much effort you are putting in... like teaching us, checking the source and reading line by line and the last but not the least mentioning the key points in video itself 🙏🙏🙏 loving this white board series ....

[@naveenautomationlabs]

My pleasure buddy :) Keep learning...

[@rajwantatwal3318]

WOW, what a explanation!! 🙌🙌I would say that you are blessed with very generous heart, GOD bless you. Speaking from experience, Automation training businesses who charge Testers 100s of dollars and still DO NOT TEACH the concept with this level of details. 😃 Stay healthy and prosper @Naveen Sir!. 🎉🎉I am learning from you so much, hope to find a job soon. 🙏🏻

[@naveenautomationlabs]

Most welcome and best of luck :)

[@adityapatil2405]

Great stuff. Request: Please dig into threading more deeply especially with and without TestNG.

[@dakshdare5196]

Whiteboard Learning Yes I'm enjoying with great learning ... need some imortant concept in selenium advance..

[@sangeetsingh8980]

You are par excellent Naveen. Kind of effort you are putting in Teaching students like us has no words. I have been following you since long and i feel to learn coding language we just need 2 things. 1 Dedication 2. Your videos. Journey will be cake walk then. Once again thanks a lot. Thoroughly enjoying whiteboard series.

[@sabataranum5128]

Thank you soo much Naveen I was doing few things soo wrong, Thank you for such a professional level support

[@kshipra4504]

If there is a logout button or navigate link, it is common in all the pages. On which page we locate this web Element?

[@nanasahebraktate5294]

Awesome Explanation Naveen. The way you explained the concepts through Whiteboard Series really help to clear the concept including what to follow , How to Follow and why not to follow certain practice. Keep uploading such useful videos . Please target API Automation Series too. Thank You

[@suprabathj7843]

Naveen , you must deserve the big round of applause - such a wonderful teaching - you are rocking man - loved it

[@MariemMili4]

Such good explanation😊 may god bless you 🙏

[@chandrashekargoud626]

I don't know what are you teaching But Iam Sure that these lectures will be useful for me in future,Thanks in advance Sir!!
Keep doing sir, All the best!!

[@gauravtangri2010]

Naveen whenever i land my first job i will send you 50% of my first salary❤❤❤❤❤mad love and respect from canada

[@naveenautomationlabs]

:) one coffee is enough buddy....best of luck...

[@learnerlearner4090]

You've explained the concept so well. Thanks so much!

[@chandanguptaSDET]

Naveen, first of all thanks for sharing this to the public. As you have mentioned about Page Chaining model, I should tell I was a big fan of that but we have few disadvantages too, not a shows topper but I stopped using it for the same reasons (quick one is handling exception in the middle of the chain). You can make a video on the same if you like, its an interesting one too. Thanks

[@dprem2009]

True fact Naveen 90% of the frameworks in companies still have assertions under page class 😂

[@vivekkeshri536]

we have in BDD this issue of assertion in step class

[@נתנאלכהן-ג6צ]

Naveen, but if I need to return the instance of the next page in every function (according to fluent interface pattern), how can I return also the value that sometimes I need to return (like number from a field)? Thanks

[@jdhung]

Excellent PAGE OBJECT MODEL tutorial.

[@ramyacd559]

Thanks for your effort!! Its great understanding on white board but if you explain/share your screen then there are more possibilities of writing code and explain them..

[@ashutoshpratapsingh6872]

very well explain thanks and i'm waiting for POM with selenium and python

[@gouribhale]

Great efforts and amazing content!! Please make video on cucumber best practices wrt pom and maintenance point of view and integration with CI/CD tools.

[@ChandraShekar-nu8yq]

Thank you so much..... now I am very clear on pom pattern.....

[@rahulgupta-kw5kj]

Thanks Naveen for giving us such a good knowledge. This will be really helpful.

[@ankitpawar6491]

Tyq Naveen it helped me alot

[@SANYAM0]

Hello Sir,
I have one query regarding Page object model.
for example if we have pre-written manual test case which is verifying different pages and performing action on different pages and I need to automate these manual test cases then in this case what approach should i follow as here we will have to navigate to different pages and perform action on different pages in a single test method.
also in a single manual test case i will have so many steps and if I use assert at any step and if it gets failed then I will not be able to move on to the next steps like UFT .
In UFT we have Reporter.ReporterEvent to verify different steps on basis of condition and get the proper report for each step but in Selenium I am unable to follow such approch.
Kindly let me know how we can manage above scenario.

[@bcoleone1]

Create a course bro I’ll happily
pay for it your other whiteboard about a framework was a classic, also how would you create a page object for the amazon landing page ?

[@mubeenmohd2144]

Hi Naveen, thanks for your efforts, now a days many languages in the market, advice to people who are beginners to start with which language java or python

[@poojachandel5622]

Thank you so much sir! I have referred so many blogs videos tutorials for page object but never got in such a way deep clarity about POM. Thank you a lottt for coverying all details with example and especially covering how we are using oops concept as well in this POM.
Thank you again !

[@naveenautomationlabs]

You are most welcome

[@coolcrafts5587]

Thx , clearly explained

[@santhoshtn7024]

It was such a great thoughts and information shared across all of us used to make violating such best practices in Page object model design patterns.

[@vijaybhagat1868]

Hey Naveen, will u plz make video on how to automate kendo(angular ui) drop-down in selenium web driver???.....plz Naveen I'm stuck at it badly...

[@avinashhinge9118]

Thanks..keep it up🙏

[@vijayarnold1405]

super explanation sir, in fact, I was not had confident about what exactly is the automation fame work you clear it more detailed manner thank you.

[@ajaylachipathruni1438]

Awesome explanation Naveen, it would help us a lot

[@sksingh329]

Thanks Naveen for sharing this video.. as I remember you already have detailed tutorials on Page Object Model and I have referred that before for understanding. Very well explained in this video on whiteboard and rightly said assertions should not be there on POM class at all.

[@minalpatel9631]

Hi Naveen thank you for POM Model, I have one question
What is the difference between POM and Page factory Model?

[@mohithemnani6892]

Thanks for sharing the knowledge & Awesome video with very nice explanation & content. Keep up the good work. 🙏🙏

[@BhaktiDhara1612]

Clear explanations, insightful tips. Makes automation concepts click!

[@venkatakasula8646]

Hi Naveen garu, Very nice understandable Approach . Nobody can share real time knowledge like you. You really helped for them who are trying for job. Good efforts Naveen, keep rocking. Thank you.

[@douglasfugazi]

Thanks for sharing this explanation. I would like to know if there is a GitHub link to see the example of this video. Best regards.

[@santoshkpl2088]

Thank you very much sir.. Nice explanation specially in whiteboard felt like more better neatly explained.

[@sagardhawan7184]

Thank you Naveen for sharing the precise and detailed version of POM, with great suggestions- how to use Assertions and all. It would be great help from your side, if you can help us with CI, CD Tools such as Azure Devops and Jenkins. Please suggest.

[@rajeshrj6538]

Concepts selected for whiteboard series are awesome!!!💯

[@9745754904]

Thanks naveen.for this.amazing session.. Just one doubt ,do every method need to.return or just if need to.validation then.only.need.to.return

[@JustTry85]

Naveen !! Its really awesome . I learned many things from you. Thanks for teaching us. Great Job, God bless !!

[@chiragbansod4003]

Hi Naveen I am currently using NUnit and like testng.xml we don't have a runner there ... So my assertions are present in the page class itself ... What could be done here in this case ?

[@ganeshtekale8777]

Thanks Naveen Plz provide Demo project with pom

[@hasmukhrpatel]

NaveenSir, in project directory structure where should we keep pages packages? under src/main or src/test

[@shivu2012]

Hi Naveen, Thanks for your videos. I have a doubt, If a method returns object of its next landing page, how to use that object in its landing page method. Please explain that. Do we have to assign the returning method to any reference variable in the landing page and use that reference variable to use the landing page methods?. i do not know about it. Pl reply.

[@lincygeorge3853]

Hi Naveen, i'm from cochin and have real experience in selenium and java,..but took a break from career due to family issues..can I get back to work any possibility..

[@vinavmevada8419]

Great explanation for POM. These 3 rules are very important in page object.
Really appreciate your efforts.🙏

[@tomd5678]

Yup, this make sense to me and similar to how I've aproached the stuff I've done up to now. This video has made me think and I've learnt quite a lot

[@koushikthelukala2057]

Naveen,
Thanks for the practical session 😊.
Can you explain the same in theoretically🙏.
Thanks in Advance😉.

[@taniyasharma8924]

Thank you so much for the video. This cleared all my doubts☺️

[@dnyandeokumbhar1406]

Useful, is ur classes available in pune ! The way ur explaining things just Awesome… 🙏🏻

[@saimanikandanv2300]

Excellent explanation and becoming fan of your white board lessons. Please make a video on explaining different selenium design patterns

[@lingeshsd3213]

really helpful video... I also did the same mistakes as you mentioned in a video like doing assertions in page class itself. now got a good idea about best practices sure I will update and change things in my script. It will be nice to do this thing as practically and make a video of this with some real scenario. it will be more useful and get more understanding to implement those things

[@SagarSharma-qe7yj]

This is the best ever video to understand the distribution of POM pattern, very good for beginners!!! Thank you Naveen!

[@shivaprasad8804]

Thank you so much for this clarification ❤️... Otherwise I would have continued using the wrong approach 🙏

[@sankalp_s_rao]

Stunning work Naveen. Amazing explanation of the concepts. Thank you so much.

[@diana_str]

Thank you!

[@RX-Ani]

If a project has more than 1 application, then do we need to create separate projects for each application or integrate all the applications in one Project(framework)? All testcases in one project?
Can we have different framework for different applications?
Please suggest/Make a video.

[@AJAUTOMATION]

I always love the way you teach us and this is an another example of it. Many thanks for your time and knowledge sharing 🙏

[@deepakdara3651]

Thanks Bro...Explained well ...looking forward for more sessions...🤝🤝

[@dipanpatel7323]

Hi Naveen, Thank you very very much for whiteboard explanation. This is really great. Would you make simple coding as sample so that we can follow it and extends for project ? 🙏🙏

[@sakuntalamondal8732]

Very nice video

[@adarshsingh4982]

because of u sir I am surviving in this industry

[@shrutidas9227]

Really very nice and informative video cleared my most of the doubts, I just have one more doubt, how we will handle the driver instance in Test Class. as we need to create object for page class by passing the driver as argument. In order to have Page class methods in @Test

[@svetlanamazhaykina6918]

Thanks for your work, Naveen! Well done!

[@pranavgupta4577]

It felt like the next level of confidence, after seeing your videos Naveen. :)

[@piyushmathpal4244]

Thanks for the KT Naveen.
My manager wasn't convinced with the rule of Sr. Matrin Fowler .
Instead he argued like why can't we follow that approach and defended saying "Whats the disadvantage if we follow continue ?". I explained him the exact concept about design patterns and all stuffs. But, he wasn't convinced. How do I make him follow the good approach?

[@prachijadhav4500]

Hi Piyush, here I am keeping my thoughts on assertions. what I understood is every method only serving a purpose of providing behaviour not validation. As I found in my project, for eg. Where i have to validate title on one page for one user in one test and for other user, on the same page title should not be present. That was the scenario. Obviously for both the users , we will not create 2 seperate pages or to get title text, we will not create 2 seperate methods. So if you use assert here, obviously it will only check title is present. So for second user , if i use same method , then my second test case will go always failed. So that if we use in test class, assertions and method only returns the text for verification , it will be reusability of the same method. This is what I observed.@Naveen sir, please let me correct if I am thinking wrong. thanks

[@piyushmathpal4244]

@@prachijadhav4500 satisfactory

[@pranaydheer]

@@prachijadhav4500 why would a page have two different page title. why would 1 user test for title exist on a page and another user check for title does not exist on the same page.

[@prachijadhav4500]

@@pranaydheer I have just given an example of title. You can take any other element on page or any menu on page which might be accessible for some clients and for some clients its not. The basic thing is Assertion should be in class level not in method level.

[@NehaKumari-hn4uk]

Hi ,naveen I please upload video on flipkart automation in flipkart one pop ups coming and I am able to handle through switching alert nor giving direct xpath

[@NehaKumari-hn4uk]

Hi ,naveen I please upload video on flipkart automation in flipkart one pop ups coming and I am able to handle through switching alert nor giving direct xpath

[@NehaKumari-hn4uk]

Hi ,naveen I please upload video on flipkart automation in flipkart one pop ups coming and I am able to handle through switching alert nor giving direct xpath

[@sambhasin4]

Thanks Naveen for amazing explanation of Page Object.

[@vaishalijain3266]

Thanks for teaching us. God bless !! appricate your efforts

[@vishnuverma6587]

Hello naveen please show us the way of parallel test case writing. Will be pleasure to learn from you.

[@bibhutijha1598]

Hi @Naveen just a suggestion , can you please use a microphone for a better sound quality

[@deepakdange5530]

Hi naveen, Can you plz explain how to write datadriven annotation without using webdriver api in test class...I am not getting this

[@dhanashreeshinde9366]

Your sessions really helped to understand lot of automation concepts...thank you very much...

[@sonyjoseph1498]

Nice videos.. Pls improve the audio quality

[@hemadrikurapati232]

what is the best approach if we have 100+ or 500+ pages??...Do we have to create page class for each page ,if not then what is the best approach in this scenario....

[@aditisoni921]

Appreciate the WHITEBOARD approach. 👍.. kind of old school but also works best.. coz it involves the instructor, their actions as well as their knowledge imparting all together in one frame..
Also heads off👏 to your efforts.. you cover
Thanks for letting us introduced to new concepts in Testing world..🙏

[@nikhilsharma2512]

Hi
Means We should not use driver.GetTitle() in Test class Right sir?

[@RX-Ani]

Sir Please make a video on Automation coding standards to be followed..

[@gouravp5458]

Great Job Naveen! Keep teaching us..Thanks

[@himanshuarora166]

Thanks Naveen for a wonderful session. Each video makes me respect you even more

[@dan754513]

video is really good and informational but get a mic and put it closer to you so you can make good quality video with clear voice, in this video voice is not clear

[@naje012nj]

Awesome explanation Naveen, very impressive

[@navneetkaur6606]

amazing content.. you are a bliss for every one who wants to learn

[@HiPh0Plover1]

what is the most widely used pattern for web automation functional and non functional ?

[@shravan35]

Wow just WOW! How do you even think of creating such core concepts video. Hats off to you for covering each minute part :-)

[@sureshkassa8949]

U r automation guru

[@artimandale8286]

Simply amazing, thank you Naveen

[@frogdissector1096]

Oops he wiped the whiteboard before I could take screenshot :(

[@girishkn6156]

Can we design nunit +parallel testing +page object model in c#

[@saranyas2213]

Keep going. You're doing great services to all🙏🙏🙏

[@bkesav3]

Thank you so much Naveen. Crisp and clear.

[@gunjankapoor9163]

Thanks for letting know what assertions should not be used in Page class but in Test class.

[@nurlanshukurlu]

Naveen, thank you for great video! I really hope will see soon Git repository consept here on whiteboard

[@shahavejsiddiqui9897]

Great !!!
Totally agree..
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