I respect Tubi for several reasons: (1) they have a great catalog of movies (2) they have a lot of horror movies (3) they're giving black content creators a chance to showcase their films.
Tubi is providing opportunities to a more urban demographic which is typically called “Hood Movies”. I respect Tubi because back in the day these type of movies you had to get underground or word of mouth. However a lot of those movies are incredibly flawed lack of knowledge of the filmmaking process. And I do agree a lot of them have that Lifetime movie affect.
This is why we watch films if we want to make them, and read books if we want to write them. We have to be a student before venturing off into the field. It would appear that all they’ve consumed were “hood movies” though, and I mean the kind that Dame Dash made 💀
I wouldn't say that Tubi is catering to this demographic but they are giving open opportunities and those are the people that are jumping in and taking advantage.
Tubi has great under the radar movies from The New Hollywood era that are largely forgotten-the kind of films you can imagine Roger Avery and Quentin Tarantino reviewing on their podcast-as well as movies like Goodfellas, The Fugitive, Platoon, vintage tv shows and everything in between. It’s a diverse range of offerings and it is what Netflix used to be before they shifted their focus to produce original content. There is a lot of crap on there as well, but I compare it to a used record store that has knowledgeable buyers. There’s gonna be a wide range of styles but if you know what to look for, you’ll end up with some great finds at a fair price. As opposed to a high end record store that has a highly curated stock, but you’ll probably pay a lot more money for the same record. Over the years, Tubi and Pluto have become favorite streaming platforms especially for being free.
Mr. J. Horton had been so instrumental to my knowledge on independent film distribution. Thank you for all you do and thank you Film Courage for spreading the knowledge through the years.
@@filmcourage Thanks for the response! I've already seen almost all of these😅 One could say I watch a LOT of Filmcourage. I will watch the ones I haven't seen yet. Thank you and keep up the amazing work! Love looking forward to your uploads each morning
🙏🙏 We are grateful to see you starting your days with us! We had a great interview with Jason. We talked with him about starting his production company, crowdfunding, and how he makes his low budget documentaries and a lot more. Those are some things to keep an eye out for. Again, thank you for your support!
@filmcourage those are my favorite topics you guys make videos about: the business side of filmmaking. Hard to get information, and the film biz is always changing, faster than ever these days
Thanks for sharing your honest insights on the best platforms for filmmakers, J. Horton! As a creator myself, it's always refreshing to hear about alternative options that can help us monetize our work. I'll definitely be looking into Tubi more closely now
Any thoughts on how this could apply to animation? For example, Netflix is getting on the anime hype train and greenlighting/acquiring a lot of anime/animation. For independent animation (tv/feature) could Tubi be beneficial for that market? Of course this heavily depends on marketing. For example, if a show was able to drive enough of an audience to Tubi and it did well, could that be the next shift? The audience already exists and has only grown. For example, during the Olympics I was shocked to see how many athletes were giving nods/tributes to anime. And as a black person, I've noticed how culturally acceptable it is now to watch it in my community alone. Not even 5-7 years ago it was way more niche. So if that audience could watch it FOR FREE and not pirate (like most do) that could be an untapped market. So yeah, thoughts?
In fact, TUBI is currently practically the only distributor for independent filmmakers that generates significant sales. Let's see how long that will last. Amazon also started well and then paid less and less.
Tubi, unlike Jeff Bezos, actually cares about diversity in the audience and specifically brings up the areas they are lacking most in because those are the areas they want to build up. And they know the only way to keep those audiences is to let smaller and independent filmmakers stay on the platform cause they're best to keep those audiences because Hollywood sure as hell don't care about them. Plus I think Tubi knows part of their charm is that they have a 90s local video store feel, and indie and foreign filmmakers play a massive part in creating that charm.
🚨🚨🚨EVERYBODY GO CHECKOUT THE MOVIE CALLED ..SUGAR MAMI..ITS FREE ON TUBI…ITS GOT THE THICKEST LATINA WITH THE PHATTEST 🍑 IN IT..TRUST ME FELLAS GO WATCH IT NOW!!!
It's my main platform for watching movies. Plenty of "cult films". Dark City, Showgirls, SLC Punk, Slumber Party Massacre, the list goes on. Tubi is easily the best out there right now.
All the reasons why I love Tubi: 1) Small time filmmakers are having better luck making it on Tubi than say TH-cam. There's not really much middle ground between YT and the big studios and streamers unfortunately. So thanks to Tubi, I'm finding out a bunch of small time filmmakers and actors I would've never heard of from the mainstream media. 2) It has that 90s video store charm and I love it. 3) They care about diversity in their audience and creators. Take note big studios. There's a difference between tokenism and actually caring. Tubi is the latter. Which no surprise because the CEO has been open how she focuses on the audience portion they're lacking. All the older generations are already watching because nostalgia TV shows and films from yesteryear brought them in. However they need different type of content to bring in the more diverse, younger or even just female audience that Hollywood notoriously don't care about.
I personally think Tubi might not have peak. Yes the people making 6 figures have lowered, but something tells me the middle class has gotten bigger. Another important thing to add is that streaming companies has pretty much just started now demanding higher rates for streaming. In the past advertisers saw classic linear broadcast TV as top dollar and treated streaming services as the rerun channel which played a part in why they weren't making as much money. However there's many reports that literally just this year, there's been a shift with companies like Amazon and Netflix pushing to see streaming as top dollar material and linear broadcasting going out of it's way. So I don't think Tubi has peaked yet just because the shift for advertisers to jump to one platform off their former one hasn't fully happened yet.
It's sort of like youtube. You get to watch stuff for free, but they get to show you ads and make money. My guess is that they give ad revenue to people who publish films there too
Pre-rolls and mid-roll video advertising. Same as TH-cam. Same as live television. Sorry, what is hard to understand about that? Companies pay money to put their video ads in-between content.
For the "...in three days," I wonder if the film just went up on the 27th of the month, and they only got data for a monthly cycle. But because of the coincidental timing they knew it was only up for three days in that month.
Tubi and TH-cam are both examples of AVOD (meaning you can watch the movie for free but have to watch ads). Transactional is when you pay to rent or buy the movie one time. (TH-cam is also transactional). SVOD is a subscription service like Netflix or Max.
Trust me..unless you vet your rep you will be getting screwed for every penny and loose your film...you can't get on Tubi unless you have a rep/ agrogates..that's the problem..and the buck stops there
There is a lot trash on tubi where the only point of the film is "the characters are black or female" but there is some really good stuff on there as well. The selection is way better than it was in like 2019.
Their selection has definitely improved, likely because the 2023 strike resolution resulted in higher pay from streaming services and Warner Bros leveraging their media properties.
i 100 percent agree... I didn't articulate my point around that very well in the interview. What I meant was it is not my thing to completely target and exploit a primarily black audience with a film about their experience. And at their core, that's what a lot of the popular tubi movies I'm talking about are. Black films about black experience. THat said, I've directed many movies with black protagonists. I typically cast the best actors for roles regardless of race. Unless race is germane to the story or script.
@JHorton I know a young lady who has a great story that has a black girl as the protag. But bc she is Latina, she worries about being "canceled" (which she has experienced a form of before) she was apprehensive of coming out with it and its been abt 5 years; Ihave seen nothing from her. I'm black, and i cosigned her story. The art is beautiful, and the story is pretty darn good. I understand her plight, but it's sad.
that sucks. I do feel for her. And by saying any of this... I'm not necessarily saying it's how it should or shouldn't be. Just how it is. And as filmmakers working in what is a commercial space ,we have to be aware of such things. But it's up to everyone individually how they react and what they chose to make.
Yes black filmmakers are making more money from their movies, but as a black female who is planning on becoming a filmmaker we don't know how to tell a good horror story like howa white film director or film producer can.Caucasian filmmakers are better at telling horror stories. Hands down. I have never seen a black filmmaker tell a great horror story. A white filmmaker will tell a phenomenal horror story. For instance Stephen King, who else? Terrifer the clown Damien Leone, John Carpenter Halloween, and Stanley Kubrick the shining. Here's Johnny. 😆😂. Black filmmakers are better at telling urban stories like Menance to society, Boyz N the hood, and South Central.
Jordan Peele won an Oscar for Get Out. Akela Cooper made Megan and it was the #1 film on Netflix. Please don’t put black creators in a box. There is a rich history of black films and your comment is so disrespectful to the black creatives who paved the way for you. Please, with all do respect, educate yourself.
Respectfully, I don’t think it’s that we don’t know how to tell a great horror movie. Jordan Peele is one example. There so many great examples of competent black filmmakers in that genre
UPDATE: I had a few distributors reach out to me and say that they do in fact have and share daily numbers on TUBI. I just hadn't seen it myself.
How do i get in tpuch w devin?
I respect Tubi for several reasons: (1) they have a great catalog of movies (2) they have a lot of horror movies (3) they're giving black content creators a chance to showcase their films.
I concur! Thank You Tubi! No more Gate Keepers! FY!💪✌️👊
Tubi is severely underrated. Great catalogue.
Tubi is providing opportunities to a more urban demographic which is typically called “Hood Movies”. I respect Tubi because back in the day these type of movies you had to get underground or word of mouth. However a lot of those movies are incredibly flawed lack of knowledge of the filmmaking process. And I do agree a lot of them have that Lifetime movie affect.
the key to tubi's success is that it's free and people don't want to pay for cable and streaming services. So most movies on tubi get plays.
This is why we watch films if we want to make them, and read books if we want to write them.
We have to be a student before venturing off into the field.
It would appear that all they’ve consumed were “hood movies” though, and I mean the kind that Dame Dash made 💀
I wouldn't say that Tubi is catering to this demographic but they are giving open opportunities and those are the people that are jumping in and taking advantage.
Tubi has great under the radar movies from The New Hollywood era that are largely forgotten-the kind of films you can imagine Roger Avery and Quentin Tarantino reviewing on their podcast-as well as movies like Goodfellas, The Fugitive, Platoon, vintage tv shows and everything in between.
It’s a diverse range of offerings and it is what Netflix used to be before they shifted their focus to produce original content. There is a lot of crap on there as well, but I compare it to a used record store that has knowledgeable buyers. There’s gonna be a wide range of styles but if you know what to look for, you’ll end up with some great finds at a fair price. As opposed to a high end record store that has a highly curated stock, but you’ll probably pay a lot more money for the same record.
Over the years, Tubi and Pluto have become favorite streaming platforms especially for being free.
@@YEDxYED lol true 😩😅😂😂
Love J. Horton. He and his Facebook group inspired me to work on my own feature film and try to serve it to Tubi
Mr. J. Horton had been so instrumental to my knowledge on independent film distribution. Thank you for all you do and thank you Film Courage for spreading the knowledge through the years.
J Horton's the man! More of this hardworking indie machine please (:
Here's more videos - tinyurl.com/5ym7mzpc and more to come!
@@filmcourage Thanks for the response! I've already seen almost all of these😅 One could say I watch a LOT of Filmcourage. I will watch the ones I haven't seen yet. Thank you and keep up the amazing work! Love looking forward to your uploads each morning
🙏🙏 We are grateful to see you starting your days with us! We had a great interview with Jason. We talked with him about starting his production company, crowdfunding, and how he makes his low budget documentaries and a lot more. Those are some things to keep an eye out for. Again, thank you for your support!
@filmcourage those are my favorite topics you guys make videos about: the business side of filmmaking. Hard to get information, and the film biz is always changing, faster than ever these days
Thanks for sharing your honest insights on the best platforms for filmmakers, J. Horton! As a creator myself, it's always refreshing to hear about alternative options that can help us monetize our work. I'll definitely be looking into Tubi more closely now
It’s a great platform also to watch a lot of different genres!
J Horton interviews are the best
he's one of my favorites you had on since I started watching this channel few weeks ago, sympathetic and clear-minded
I watched Craving on Tubi
IT HAS ALL THE CLASSICS!
All races, creeds, ideas both left and right!
TUUUUUUBIIIIIIiiii FOREVER!
Take over netflix!
You can legit find the Batman movie serials from the 1940s on Tubi which is crazy.
I have 3 features on Tubi. Public Access to the Cosmos, Panacea, and Thom and Jerrie's Repo Service. I love Tubi.
Film Courage what up? Great stuff. Mr. Horton always brings it. Thanks
Any thoughts on how this could apply to animation? For example, Netflix is getting on the anime hype train and greenlighting/acquiring a lot of anime/animation. For independent animation (tv/feature) could Tubi be beneficial for that market? Of course this heavily depends on marketing. For example, if a show was able to drive enough of an audience to Tubi and it did well, could that be the next shift? The audience already exists and has only grown. For example, during the Olympics I was shocked to see how many athletes were giving nods/tributes to anime.
And as a black person, I've noticed how culturally acceptable it is now to watch it in my community alone. Not even 5-7 years ago it was way more niche. So if that audience could watch it FOR FREE and not pirate (like most do) that could be an untapped market.
So yeah, thoughts?
Something new will always come along
In fact, TUBI is currently practically the only distributor for independent filmmakers that generates significant sales. Let's see how long that will last. Amazon also started well and then paid less and less.
Tubi, unlike Jeff Bezos, actually cares about diversity in the audience and specifically brings up the areas they are lacking most in because those are the areas they want to build up. And they know the only way to keep those audiences is to let smaller and independent filmmakers stay on the platform cause they're best to keep those audiences because Hollywood sure as hell don't care about them.
Plus I think Tubi knows part of their charm is that they have a 90s local video store feel, and indie and foreign filmmakers play a massive part in creating that charm.
J.Horton is an amazing director . I had the opportunity to play the role as a zombie in his upcoming horror film A HARD PLACE .
How often do you watch movies on Tubi?
Never. What titles would you suggest? Bring on the girl power. 😂
🚨🚨🚨EVERYBODY GO CHECKOUT THE MOVIE CALLED ..SUGAR MAMI..ITS FREE ON TUBI…ITS GOT THE THICKEST LATINA WITH THE PHATTEST 🍑 IN IT..TRUST ME FELLAS GO WATCH IT NOW!!!
Never :( I stick to my blu rays and amazon prime since I have it for my shipping and credit card bonuses.
i'm in a tubi group and we love the black content on there
It's my main platform for watching movies. Plenty of "cult films". Dark City, Showgirls, SLC Punk, Slumber Party Massacre, the list goes on. Tubi is easily the best out there right now.
All the reasons why I love Tubi:
1) Small time filmmakers are having better luck making it on Tubi than say TH-cam. There's not really much middle ground between YT and the big studios and streamers unfortunately. So thanks to Tubi, I'm finding out a bunch of small time filmmakers and actors I would've never heard of from the mainstream media.
2) It has that 90s video store charm and I love it.
3) They care about diversity in their audience and creators. Take note big studios. There's a difference between tokenism and actually caring. Tubi is the latter. Which no surprise because the CEO has been open how she focuses on the audience portion they're lacking. All the older generations are already watching because nostalgia TV shows and films from yesteryear brought them in. However they need different type of content to bring in the more diverse, younger or even just female audience that Hollywood notoriously don't care about.
I personally think Tubi might not have peak. Yes the people making 6 figures have lowered, but something tells me the middle class has gotten bigger. Another important thing to add is that streaming companies has pretty much just started now demanding higher rates for streaming.
In the past advertisers saw classic linear broadcast TV as top dollar and treated streaming services as the rerun channel which played a part in why they weren't making as much money. However there's many reports that literally just this year, there's been a shift with companies like Amazon and Netflix pushing to see streaming as top dollar material and linear broadcasting going out of it's way. So I don't think Tubi has peaked yet just because the shift for advertisers to jump to one platform off their former one hasn't fully happened yet.
can u please do an interview with Ken Dancyger, author of Alternative Scriptwriting and Global Scriptwriting
How about Tubi for Animated Sitcoms creators? How about compared to TH-cam?
What is the minimum runtime for an episode and a feature film on TUBI? Thank you!
But how? I don't get its marketing or business model.
the key to tubi's success is that it's free and people don't want to pay for cable and streaming services. So most movies on tubi get plays.
It's sort of like youtube. You get to watch stuff for free, but they get to show you ads and make money. My guess is that they give ad revenue to people who publish films there too
Pre-rolls and mid-roll video advertising. Same as TH-cam. Same as live television. Sorry, what is hard to understand about that? Companies pay money to put their video ads in-between content.
For the "...in three days," I wonder if the film just went up on the 27th of the month, and they only got data for a monthly cycle. But because of the coincidental timing they knew it was only up for three days in that month.
What does he mean by AVOD and transactional ?
Tubi and TH-cam are both examples of AVOD (meaning you can watch the movie for free but have to watch ads). Transactional is when you pay to rent or buy the movie one time. (TH-cam is also transactional). SVOD is a subscription service like Netflix or Max.
How do i get in touch with devin brey?
What is the "woman in peril" genre? Can somebody give me an example of a movie like that? Thanks!
Indeed❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Tubi canceled The Critic . . . b o o o o o
Trust me..unless you vet your rep you will be getting screwed for every penny and loose your film...you can't get on Tubi unless you have a rep/ agrogates..that's the problem..and the buck stops there
More than Disney
There is a lot trash on tubi where the only point of the film is "the characters are black or female" but there is some really good stuff on there as well. The selection is way better than it was in like 2019.
Their selection has definitely improved, likely because the 2023 strike resolution resulted in higher pay from streaming services and Warner Bros leveraging their media properties.
I think any one shud make any kind of movie they want. We shouldnt be limited bc of our race. If your white and your protag is black, you do that.
i 100 percent agree... I didn't articulate my point around that very well in the interview. What I meant was it is not my thing to completely target and exploit a primarily black audience with a film about their experience. And at their core, that's what a lot of the popular tubi movies I'm talking about are. Black films about black experience. THat said, I've directed many movies with black protagonists. I typically cast the best actors for roles regardless of race. Unless race is germane to the story or script.
@JHorton I know a young lady who has a great story that has a black girl as the protag. But bc she is Latina, she worries about being "canceled" (which she has experienced a form of before) she was apprehensive of coming out with it and its been abt 5 years; Ihave seen nothing from her. I'm black, and i cosigned her story. The art is beautiful, and the story is pretty darn good. I understand her plight, but it's sad.
that sucks. I do feel for her. And by saying any of this... I'm not necessarily saying it's how it should or shouldn't be. Just how it is. And as filmmakers working in what is a commercial space ,we have to be aware of such things. But it's up to everyone individually how they react and what they chose to make.
its weird to say but free makes money ha just look at games like well the free ones ha
Yes black filmmakers are making more money from their movies, but as a black female who is planning on becoming a filmmaker we don't know how to tell a good horror story like howa white film director or film producer can.Caucasian filmmakers are better at telling horror stories. Hands down. I have never seen a black filmmaker tell a great horror story. A white filmmaker will tell a phenomenal horror story. For instance Stephen King, who else? Terrifer the clown Damien Leone, John Carpenter Halloween, and Stanley Kubrick the shining. Here's Johnny. 😆😂. Black filmmakers are better at telling urban stories like Menance to society, Boyz N the hood, and South Central.
I do check me out
Jordan Peele won an Oscar for Get Out. Akela Cooper made Megan and it was the #1 film on Netflix. Please don’t put black creators in a box. There is a rich history of black films and your comment is so disrespectful to the black creatives who paved the way for you. Please, with all do respect, educate yourself.
Respectfully, I don’t think it’s that we don’t know how to tell a great horror movie. Jordan Peele is one example. There so many great examples of competent black filmmakers in that genre
Don't sell yourself short, get inspired by some of your favorite horror films and use some elements to make your own.
Wow, what a load of bullshit 😂