I played Descent a few times here and there a few years back, and now find myself collecting Tau for 40k. It is a good game to get hooked on miniature-type gaming.
Mantic has a great gateway game called Project Pandora: Grim Cargo. It is reminiscent of Space Hulk but not the same as that older game. You play Corporation troopers dealing with Veer-myn (Space Ratmen) invaders. It plays really fast and is easy to learn. I highly recommend this game. I comes with Minis and they are fantastic.
I've played the fantasy version of this with the dwarves and the skeletons, I believe it's called Dwarf King's Hold. It's a good gateway game, I agree. Maybe I'll have to make a video about alternatives to Space Hulk. Thanks for watching!
I have been touting these games for a while now as well. Thank you for this! I have the original space hulk sitting on the shelf - box is in rough shape but the game is still amazingly fun to play! Was also nice to add terminators from my 40k army to add some interest. Have been playing the new OGRE game - very fun to play if you can get used to the new faux 3D models - rules are pretty much the same as the old school rules - very easy for new people to pick up. Leviathans is also fun - hope to throw down with glenn soon. Don't get me started on x-wing and how awesome that is! Great video (again) - keep it up!
Two older games that may work and you could probably find on eBay/Amazon are Shogun and HeroQuest. The former really focuses on troops, but they're represented by on a few figures (even though the game comes with a ton of minis) and like X-Wing - from what I hear - moves are planned out ahead of time so that things take place almost simultaneously as the turn phases progress. HeroQuest, obviously, is more focused on single miniatures but it still gives that feel of 3D representations and environments that a more intricate miniatures game evokes.
I only recently discovered your channel and have been binge-watching your videos over these last rainy weeks on the East Coast. Thanks for all the great painting tips. I've found Memoir '44 to be a great game for getting friends to cross-over from board to miniatures war-gaming, since it has a "foot in each camp"...hex board terrain mixed with 3D pieces. Battle Lore works the same way for those who prefer fantasy to historic combat.
Necromunda was my gateway game. That led to 40K, which led to Mordheim, and then fantasy. Then I got burned out on GW's pricing and shifted to DZC and now Warmachine. Love the whole aspect of the game from painting to tactics.
I went the other way- from 40k to Tannhauser which has great alternative WW2 theme and interesting mechanics. Apart from my copy of Space Hulk I also think that Incursion by Grindhouse games has great minis and there's a new set on the way (kickstarter).
Battle Tech was my Gateway game. I think any game where you do not have to buy very many figs (A Battle Tech Lance was 4 figs) turn into great gateway games, because you buy more figs to give yourself more options or to play with others that don't have figs.
I think one could be Dust Tactics, its kinda a Board game and the minis are pre-assembled and primed and all you need is to buy the Dust Warfare book and it turns it into a Wargame. Also while Space Hulk is super expensive theres a couple games that are similar and are very easy to get. One is Sedition Wars from Mcvey and CMoN and the other is Privateer Press's Level 7 games, the first just used Cardboard but the newer one actually has minis.
That's a very good point! Dust Tactics would be a pretty good gateway to miniatures games, especially because of the easy upgrade to Dust Warfare. Unfortunately, I'm not really fond of Dust Tactics (but LOVE Dust Warfare) so that's probably why I didn't think of it in my video. Thanks for watching!
tabletopminions I know there is not a lot of love between the Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare crowds, but I like Dust Tactics and was surprised it wasn't on the list. Great video anyway. Cheers!
I'm not sure if this is the right video for this comment, but I recently talked to a movie fanatic and they told me about Disney's DVD strategy where they only sell certain DVD's at certain times so maybe the idea is if they only release it occasionally and it's limited addition then they can sell it when they need a quick stock boost?
I'll admit, when I first saw the Kickstarter for this, I was more interested in the terrain than the game. However, I'm starting to hear more good things about this system. Hopefully I can get a demo in somewhere (maybe at Adepticon?) and learn more about the actual gameplay. Thanks for watching!
I was told that Puppet wars is another gateway game for malifaux since the card mechanics work almost the same but not to sure if thats true or not. But figured I would mention it.
i will probably never get into miniature games mesides blitz bowl and xwing ... I just dont feel like reading about a 100 plus pages to be able to fully understand a game . and i also dont apreciate paying good money to get unasembled plastic
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This just makes me want to play HeroQuest again.
I played Descent a few times here and there a few years back, and now find myself collecting Tau for 40k. It is a good game to get hooked on miniature-type gaming.
The old Milton Bradley Heroquest. After playing that for a few years, I found White Dwarf Magazine in a newsagent and it was love at first sight.
One of the great gateway games, to be sure. Thanks for watching!
These are great suggestions. I might pick a couple up to try and get more friends to play. Thanks!
Mantic has a great gateway game called Project Pandora: Grim Cargo. It is reminiscent of Space Hulk but not the same as that older game. You play Corporation troopers dealing with Veer-myn (Space Ratmen) invaders. It plays really fast and is easy to learn. I highly recommend this game. I comes with Minis and they are fantastic.
I've played the fantasy version of this with the dwarves and the skeletons, I believe it's called Dwarf King's Hold. It's a good gateway game, I agree. Maybe I'll have to make a video about alternatives to Space Hulk. Thanks for watching!
Rivit wars does look badass, cant wait to get hold of a copy.
I have been touting these games for a while now as well. Thank you for this! I have the original space hulk sitting on the shelf - box is in rough shape but the game is still amazingly fun to play! Was also nice to add terminators from my 40k army to add some interest. Have been playing the new OGRE game - very fun to play if you can get used to the new faux 3D models - rules are pretty much the same as the old school rules - very easy for new people to pick up. Leviathans is also fun - hope to throw down with glenn soon. Don't get me started on x-wing and how awesome that is! Great video (again) - keep it up!
Two older games that may work and you could probably find on eBay/Amazon are Shogun and HeroQuest. The former really focuses on troops, but they're represented by on a few figures (even though the game comes with a ton of minis) and like X-Wing - from what I hear - moves are planned out ahead of time so that things take place almost simultaneously as the turn phases progress. HeroQuest, obviously, is more focused on single miniatures but it still gives that feel of 3D representations and environments that a more intricate miniatures game evokes.
Strangely enough, you can still find copies of it in one of FLGS where I live for about $120, and there's always eBay.
I only recently discovered your channel and have been binge-watching your videos over these last rainy weeks on the East Coast. Thanks for all the great painting tips. I've found Memoir '44 to be a great game for getting friends to cross-over from board to miniatures war-gaming, since it has a "foot in each camp"...hex board terrain mixed with 3D pieces. Battle Lore works the same way for those who prefer fantasy to historic combat.
+Richard Klug I know a guy that has recently painted his whole Memoir '44 set. He loves to run it at conventions. Thanks for watching!
Necromunda was my gateway game. That led to 40K, which led to Mordheim, and then fantasy. Then I got burned out on GW's pricing and shifted to DZC and now Warmachine. Love the whole aspect of the game from painting to tactics.
I see that by your YT icon. I also used to play Khador. Thanks for watching!
I went the other way- from 40k to Tannhauser which has great alternative WW2 theme and interesting mechanics. Apart from my copy of Space Hulk I also think that Incursion by Grindhouse games has great minis and there's a new set on the way (kickstarter).
BattleTech was my gateway game.
Battle Tech was my Gateway game. I think any game where you do not have to buy very many figs (A Battle Tech Lance was 4 figs) turn into great gateway games, because you buy more figs to give yourself more options or to play with others that don't have figs.
I think one could be Dust Tactics, its kinda a Board game and the minis are pre-assembled and primed and all you need is to buy the Dust Warfare book and it turns it into a Wargame. Also while Space Hulk is super expensive theres a couple games that are similar and are very easy to get. One is Sedition Wars from Mcvey and CMoN and the other is Privateer Press's Level 7 games, the first just used Cardboard but the newer one actually has minis.
That's a very good point! Dust Tactics would be a pretty good gateway to miniatures games, especially because of the easy upgrade to Dust Warfare. Unfortunately, I'm not really fond of Dust Tactics (but LOVE Dust Warfare) so that's probably why I didn't think of it in my video. Thanks for watching!
tabletopminions I know there is not a lot of love between the Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare crowds, but I like Dust Tactics and was surprised it wasn't on the list. Great video anyway. Cheers!
HeroQuest was my gateway game and drug of choice :)
would you consider >Mythic Battles Pantheon< and >Joan Of Arc Time Of Legends< (Both from Mythic Games) good gateway games?
I'm not sure if this is the right video for this comment, but I recently talked to a movie fanatic and they told me about Disney's DVD strategy where they only sell certain DVD's at certain times so maybe the idea is if they only release it occasionally and it's limited addition then they can sell it when they need a quick stock boost?
What about Deadzone from Mantic? It seems to straddle the line between board and miniature game too.
I'll admit, when I first saw the Kickstarter for this, I was more interested in the terrain than the game. However, I'm starting to hear more good things about this system. Hopefully I can get a demo in somewhere (maybe at Adepticon?) and learn more about the actual gameplay. Thanks for watching!
Where can I get leviathans for a cheap price?
No patchow on this video??
Don't put Ogre on the top shelf as you might kill someone if it falls.
I was told that Puppet wars is another gateway game for malifaux since the card mechanics work almost the same but not to sure if thats true or not. But figured I would mention it.
I love Malifaux, but I've never played Puppet Wars. Weird. Thanks for watching!
tabletopminions check it out if you get a chance.
BattleLore from FFG.
jumped into killteam a while ago and bought terminator genisys game today
i cant see the appeal honestly
A game I would consider a gateway game was Heroscape.
With the plastic hex terrain? I've not played it, but I've seen it played and I think it fits the bill quite well. Thanks for watching!
OGRE is super fun.
Zombiecide
Whoever is in charge of GW's business decisions should be fired
i will probably never get into miniature games mesides blitz bowl and xwing ...
I just dont feel like reading about a 100 plus pages to be able to fully understand a game . and i also dont apreciate paying good money to get unasembled plastic
I’m a big board game fan and collector. I’ve been reluctant to get into war gaming based on the perceived high barriers to entry - both in cost and in learning an extensive system. I’m interested in learning to paint miniatures for the sake of that aspect of the hobby in and of itself. I’m looking into board games that have paintable miniatures and smaller skirmish games. We shall see how it goes...