So finally after 6 months, I have made a video on what I carry on my ALICE rucksack. Keep in mind this is my first attempt on packing my own rucksack outside of ROTC.
You need a stainless single walled canteen or cup, a way to boil water. And several ways to start a fire. Lighter, magnesium rod, ect. Just off the top of my head
The Camel Back on Top is a bad idea I've seen a lot of videos on people saying that the water sloshes back and forth and creates a modem ocean wave motion and throws you off balance you want to keep it close to your back
My suggestion: fill your magazines, all of them, fill that water bladder and your 2 qt. canteen, pack everything back in the bag, then give us a weight. It is gonna be over 40 pounds by my guess. Then add the weight of your weapon. Tell us the total...I would like to know. I have my medium ALICE pack loaded to the gills, and the frame belt with 4 extra bags, full of essentials, including my .380 Taurus pistol and two extra clips. Sleeping bag mounted on top in a camo compression bag, and the ground mat and wool blanket rolled together and hung from the bottom. Instead of ziplock bags, which you cannot get the air out of, I used cheap thin 8 gallon garbage bags to pack everything that would soak up water. Now my pack still weighs about as much as yours, but it will float and not waterlog and eventually sink. I packed less food but high energy stuff like Clif bars, ect. I have two 1 qt. canteens, one with the cup for cooking, very redundant on fire making items, from water proof matches, dryer lint, cerium fire striker, several bic lighters, fire paste. Cannot have enough ways to start fire! Finally, get a decent camo poncho if you do not have one. Great as a raincover for both you and pack! Important to stay as dry as possible. I also have one of those orange emergency squares. Also I have a hatchet and a small, 8 in. Folding saw, for processing firewood. I will say you have a good basic start on a 3 day bag!
Have a suggestion for you. Look for a Boy Scout pack frame. If you bend the top end in, you can mount the large ALICE to it. This will be lighter the the ALICE pack frame and you can mount your sleeping bag system to the Boy Scout frame and have extra roon for other supplies.
You may want to look into the Tactical Tailor super straps for your Alice pack. They make shoulder straps as well as hip belt. It will increase the comfort.
Kid, this is what you need to know as importance... Water, Shelter, Food, Fire, oxygen, & Camouflage. All 6 things people NEED to survive.. Camo is just to keep you invisible to society. * Wood processing: Axe, hatchet, saw, knife, sharpening stones/files * Fire starter Matches/striker, Ferro rods/striker, magnification lense, lighters, flint & steel, fires starters (char-cloth, cotton soaked in Petroleum jelly, triple antibiotic ointment, or something along those lines) emergency 12 hour candles, etc * Shelter: Tarp(s), paracord (strands), contractor bags 55 gal (3 mil), * Water: Filtering system of some sort. And/or ziplocs of finely crushed wood charcoal, sand, pebbles, rocks, and cotton or green grass. And will need a container to pour contents in to make DIY filter. May need to filter & refilter. Then need to boil to purify. * Food: Need a plant guide for foraging, seeds for growing foods, traps, fishing tackle, bow & arrows, slingshot, snare wire & practice... * Navigation: Map & compass * Lighting: Headlamp, flashlight, & batteries * others: Speedy stitch sewing awl - repair Solar/handcrank radio - news feed, Dawn dish soap, playing cards, first aid & trauma kits, Winter & Summer clothing and rain protection.
Liked your vid... I humbly suggest more planning. Use the main bottom pouch for one meal, plus cooking and fire starting. Another bottom pouch for hygiene = toilet paper/wet wipes, (repair & fishing kits, etc.) and one for first aid/ signaling, etc. Don't forget the two other big pouches have pass throughs for a hatchet, etc . The 3 upper pouches = 3 other smaller catagories of pouches (CB radio and extra batteries, extra cortage, water purification, extra ammo, multi-tool, etc. See my other comments for the main barrel, liners, attachment points, etc.
Love the bag. I have a more conventional 75 liter backpack that is set up for long term survival. My INCH bag is pretty heavy, and is constantly changing even though I have had it just over a year. I hope to have a new video next week showing the contents, it is fully loaded. I will hopefully provide some very useful advice, it should be a video well worth watching.
Dude, you don't even have the barenminimun. I carry more on assult packs with MOLLE webbing than you do in a large ALICE. There is so much more you need IDK where to start. On the plus side, at least you're making an effort to put a combat/bug out/whatever bag together. That's more than most do, so I have to congratulate you on that. You have a tried and true bag and what gear you have is decent, you just need to upgrade and add more IMO, for what it's worth. I can give it to you that you won't be caught flat-footed if SHTF. You sound young and it's good to see young people getting ready. Hats off to you, sir for having then initiative and foresight to begin prepping and getting a B.O.B. together.
If hes on light side than you're carrying too much. That just means hes better than you... if you get can away with less than thats better than having more lmao
Great video looks like all the essentials I have a few things to add I only saw 1 type of fire matches add a Ferrell rod a Bic lighter and a magnifying glass and don't store your matches with something wet. Strip down those MRE'S and put them in the outside bottom bags . Use a trash bag as a dry bag liner for your big compartment. One guy said he replaced the metal buckles with fastex buckles so did I makes things a whole lot easier and put that bladder either on top or in the frame you can put it under the lid keep same with same food-water-fire, hygene, sleep - shelter etc thats a good start there is always room fo inprovement
My Alice pack has a lot more gear, Boy Scout cook kit, maps and compass, 8 5x7 rescue blankets Heavy Duty to make a shelter with paracord, along with water filtration kit.
Re Camelback. Look into British PLCE. Karrimore make zip on pouches. Take side pouches off ie your 2 quart water bottle and SAW pouch. Get zips sewn on. Then you can zip on your PLCE pouch, which has a hidden pouch that will hold a 3 to 5 lt watter bladder behind it. Or you can zip on molle compatible sides and do same. Best 5hing is PLCE pouches are 10 litre. You can Zip the 2 pouches together and get a harness to turn them into a 20lt day pack, or just 10 if you wish. Same idea as your 2 quart bottle. Its on pack add a strap its seperate.
Looks good to me id just add away to boil water or purification tabs or filter but all round you did a good good im no expert either id also look into Sleeping pad
You going to last 3 weeks without food but only three days without water. Break down your MREs and add a water filter. Away to start fire and a way to cook. And maybe a hammock. I live in Victorville has some equipment, a decade of experience
it would work to put your camel back under the straps of your rucksack. I have a large Alice rucksack and that's what I would do when I use my camel back. and if you have the quick release straps you can put the end of the hose through the piece of webbing that covers the quick release.
Try putting your water bladder in side frame. Between your back and your pack. I ordered a Large ALICE the other day from eBay and that's what I intend to do with mine...
Howdy, great video. Thanks for posting. Do you have a source for that SA ground cover/shelter half? Suggestion water purification tables or Life Straw.
The SA ground cover I got on ebay, but they are very rare. It might take a long time to find one and if you do, expect it to be pricey. As far as water purification tablets, I do carry some on my canteen in my belt. Thanks for the comment.
@@albmartinez314 whether ya go with much older school A.L.I.C.E. (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) Pack & matching/working A.L.I.C.E. (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) Pouches attached or the more modern MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-bearing/carrying Equipment) Backpack's/Duffle Bags/Sling Packs & matching/working MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-bearing/carrying Equipment) Pouches attached either way you're going prepared!
Spent a few years with one of these and a camel bak. Recommend the top method. Had a buddy have a burst on his CB while running it inside, items pressed into it too hard I guess. Anyway, huge mess, but a great way to test your waterproofing, ha ha.
As far as water bladders I cut the shoulder straps off mine and added fast tec buckles in place. Along with buckles to my ALICE pack closure straps. Also to my LBV. The bladder stays on yhe pack but if need be I can quickly remove it and attatch it to my LBV
Well it's been two years since you posted this, so hopefully you've fixed all your problems, which there were numerous. Some of the glaring things: your hygiene kit is too big. You don't need bodywash, you do need more socks. You have the large Alice ruck, you can live out of that beast for two weeks. At least you went light on clothing. One set of pants and shirt that you wear and one extra set for and/or if you mess up the set you're wearing. Do get the winter bag for MSS, and never skimp on a cold weather jacket. Even if it's 90 to 100 during the day, it can drop 30 degrees at night and this can be a shock. You must consider the night temp along with the day temp. And last note. Don't bother with VS17 panels. Just go to Lowes or home Depot and buy orange sand bags. They're lighter, pack smaller, and they work better for making LZs. Plus they're a bag of sand, they don't tend blow away in the wind. Anyhow, good luck, think light and no bodywash.
Nice set up for a starter out add some more stuff but these things are very personal so at least you’re you’re you’re trying need to go out hike try see what works rotate stuff in and out you’ll find stuff that works better for you and some done good starter set up I like it
??? what?? Im using my ALECE Medium and it is good enough for three day hiking in forrest. You just need good knife, sleeping bag, carrymat, bivycover, 2litres of water, waterfilter, some food, led flashlight. And thats it. + something to make a fire - best is firesteel. altogether is around 13kilograms on your back and thats enough, I think.
dos cosas, el camelbak yo lo pondria dentro, aunque si consigues ponerlo fuera sin que se mueva nada y se quede bien sujeto pues adelante y otra cosa de donde consigues todo el equipamiento sudafricano?? mola bastante!
Por lo general, el equipamento Sudafricano lo consigo en ebay. Busca al vendedor OldRepublicEnterprises. El vende algunos uniformes y equipamento Sudafricano. Aparte de eso, a veces toma un poco de tiempo encontrar equipamento en ebay. Tambien esta caro. Creo que he gastado mas de $700 dollares (621.84 Euro) en total. Tambien puede ser dificil encontralo ya que le mayoria solo lo encuentras en Sudafrica y puede que tome un poco de tiempo para que te llegue. Por suerte, la mayoria de lo que yo compre lo encontre aqui en los Estados Unidos o lo he conseguido desde Canada, pero todo ha sido por ebay.
Ahora estoy empezando a collecionar equipamento Ruso. De hecho, he estado pensando en deshacerme de algunas partes de mi equipamento sudafricano. No se porque, pero he perdido un poco de interes en ello.
De hecho logre encontrar un poco de equipamento Ruso viejo. Consegui un cinturon, portacargador, portagranadas, cantinplora, y una pala. Solo me faltan las trinchas. Con respecto al resto de equipamento Ruso, a mi no me preocupa el precio, si no que tarda muchisimo tiempo para que me llegue. Por ejemplo, hace tiempo, compre unas raciones Rusas. Me llegaron desde Rusia, pero tardan mucho tiempo para llegar a los Estados Unidos (1 mes y semana y media mas o menos). Si eres paciented, vale la pena. Por lo general, intento bsucar cosas aqui en Estados Unidos primero (por ebay), y luego en Rusia.
And drop the e tool and pick up a small shovel trial foldable cuz that's 5 10 lb right there right up your back realistically how many times you carried out and actually dug a foxhole with it there's other ways to dig a small hole besides using any tool use sticks small foldable shovel snow shovel if you need to stick it snow all kinds of things you don't need that big 10lb freaking shovel
One you're probably not going to dig in foxholes to you will probably want to switch your buck knife outside when e tool is because you'll use your knife more often than you will e tool
As soon as I saw those 10 rounders, I said to myself “I bet he lives in Cali..” 😆 damn I hate it for you guys!
Poor guys😭 I’m over here hoarding 60 rounders
You need a stainless single walled canteen or cup, a way to boil water. And several ways to start a fire. Lighter, magnesium rod, ect. Just off the top of my head
The Camel Back on Top is a bad idea I've seen a lot of videos on people saying that the water sloshes back and forth and creates a modem ocean wave motion and throws you off balance you want to keep it close to your back
My suggestion: fill your magazines, all of them, fill that water bladder and your 2 qt. canteen, pack everything back in the bag, then give us a weight. It is gonna be over 40 pounds by my guess. Then add the weight of your weapon. Tell us the total...I would like to know.
I have my medium ALICE pack loaded to the gills, and the frame belt with 4 extra bags, full of essentials, including my .380 Taurus pistol and two extra clips. Sleeping bag mounted on top in a camo compression bag, and the ground mat and wool blanket rolled together and hung from the bottom. Instead of ziplock bags, which you cannot get the air out of, I used cheap thin 8 gallon garbage bags to pack everything that would soak up water. Now my pack still weighs about as much as yours, but it will float and not waterlog and eventually sink. I packed less food but high energy stuff like Clif bars, ect. I have two 1 qt. canteens, one with the cup for cooking, very redundant on fire making items, from water proof matches, dryer lint, cerium fire striker, several bic lighters, fire paste. Cannot have enough ways to start fire! Finally, get a decent camo poncho if you do not have one. Great as a raincover for both you and pack! Important to stay as dry as possible. I also have one of those orange emergency squares. Also I have a hatchet and a small, 8 in. Folding saw, for processing firewood.
I will say you have a good basic start on a 3 day bag!
Have a suggestion for you. Look for a Boy Scout pack frame. If you bend the top end in, you can mount the large ALICE to it. This will be lighter the the ALICE pack frame and you can mount your sleeping bag system to the Boy Scout frame and have extra roon for other supplies.
You may want to look into the Tactical Tailor super straps for your Alice pack. They make shoulder straps as well as hip belt. It will increase the comfort.
Kid, this is what you need to know as importance... Water, Shelter, Food, Fire, oxygen, & Camouflage. All 6 things people NEED to survive.. Camo is just to keep you invisible to society.
* Wood processing:
Axe, hatchet, saw, knife, sharpening stones/files
* Fire starter
Matches/striker, Ferro rods/striker, magnification lense, lighters, flint & steel, fires starters (char-cloth, cotton soaked in Petroleum jelly, triple antibiotic ointment, or something along those lines) emergency 12 hour candles, etc
* Shelter:
Tarp(s), paracord (strands), contractor bags 55 gal (3 mil),
* Water:
Filtering system of some sort.
And/or ziplocs of finely crushed wood charcoal, sand, pebbles, rocks, and cotton or green grass. And will need a container to pour contents in to make DIY filter. May need to filter & refilter. Then need to boil to purify.
* Food:
Need a plant guide for foraging, seeds for growing foods, traps, fishing tackle, bow & arrows, slingshot, snare wire & practice...
* Navigation:
Map & compass
* Lighting:
Headlamp, flashlight, & batteries
* others:
Speedy stitch sewing awl - repair
Solar/handcrank radio - news feed, Dawn dish soap, playing cards, first aid & trauma kits, Winter & Summer clothing and rain protection.
albmartinez 314...you have the best packed ALICE Rucksack with details unto the situation,NICE WORK!
Liked your vid... I humbly suggest more planning. Use the main bottom pouch for one meal, plus cooking and fire starting. Another bottom pouch for hygiene = toilet paper/wet wipes, (repair & fishing kits, etc.) and one for first aid/ signaling, etc. Don't forget the two other big pouches have pass throughs for a hatchet, etc . The 3 upper pouches = 3 other smaller catagories of pouches (CB radio and extra batteries, extra cortage, water purification, extra ammo, multi-tool, etc. See my other comments for the main barrel, liners, attachment points, etc.
Love the bag. I have a more conventional 75 liter backpack that is set up for long term survival. My INCH bag is pretty heavy, and is constantly changing even though I have had it just over a year.
I hope to have a new video next week showing the contents, it is fully loaded.
I will hopefully provide some very useful advice, it should be a video well worth watching.
Wish i had $10.00 for every time i changed my BOB...☘☠☘
And its 57# without water & rifle,, but i have lived close 2 a month comfortably out of it, but i wouldn't wanna hump it all day everyday
@@tomcatt998 Lol. I know what you mean.
I mounted my bladder inside my pack frame
The one that works best is what works best for you
Dude, you don't even have the barenminimun. I carry more on assult packs with MOLLE webbing than you do in a large ALICE. There is so much more you need IDK where to start. On the plus side, at least you're making an effort to put a combat/bug out/whatever bag together. That's more than most do, so I have to congratulate you on that. You have a tried and true bag and what gear you have is decent, you just need to upgrade and add more IMO, for what it's worth. I can give it to you that you won't be caught flat-footed if SHTF. You sound young and it's good to see young people getting ready. Hats off to you, sir for having then initiative and foresight to begin prepping and getting a B.O.B. together.
If hes on light side than you're carrying too much. That just means hes better than you... if you get can away with less than thats better than having more lmao
OK video..as a vet,,.we say...pack it tight..and make it light.... GOOD VIDEO!
Great video looks like all the essentials I have a few things to add I only saw 1 type of fire matches add a Ferrell rod a Bic lighter and a magnifying glass and don't store your matches with something wet. Strip down those MRE'S and put them in the outside bottom bags . Use a trash bag as a dry bag liner for your big compartment. One guy said he replaced the metal buckles with fastex buckles so did I makes things a whole lot easier and put that bladder either on top or in the frame you can put it under the lid keep same with same food-water-fire, hygene, sleep - shelter etc thats a good start there is always room fo inprovement
My Alice pack has a lot more gear, Boy Scout cook kit, maps and compass, 8 5x7 rescue blankets Heavy Duty to make a shelter with paracord, along with water filtration kit.
Bob Staurovsky you don’t really need a water filtration kit, all you have to do is boil the water. But I understand the kit for if you are in a hurry.
Re Camelback. Look into British PLCE. Karrimore make zip on pouches. Take side pouches off ie your 2 quart water bottle and SAW pouch. Get zips sewn on. Then you can zip on your PLCE pouch, which has a hidden pouch that will hold a 3 to 5 lt watter bladder behind it. Or you can zip on molle compatible sides and do same. Best 5hing is PLCE pouches are 10 litre. You can Zip the 2 pouches together and get a harness to turn them into a 20lt day pack, or just 10 if you wish. Same idea as your 2 quart bottle. Its on pack add a strap its seperate.
In the rack, you will have to to keep fighting with the cord to keep it tight on.
Looks good to me id just add away to boil water or purification tabs or filter but all round you did a good good im no expert either id also look into Sleeping pad
You going to last 3 weeks without food but only three days without water. Break down your MREs and add a water filter. Away to start fire and a way to cook. And maybe a hammock. I live in Victorville has some equipment, a decade of experience
it would work to put your camel back under the straps of your rucksack. I have a large Alice rucksack and that's what I would do when I use my camel back. and if you have the quick release straps you can put the end of the hose through the piece of webbing that covers the quick release.
Thank you for your service
Remember these things can carry 70lbs+ which is why the frame is there. Don't under-pack but also don't over-pack.
Is this in California or no
Great kit just subbed thanks for sharing
Nice setup. Strip down the MRE's. Get rid of the luminous tape. With the ammo your carrying it's more important to stay stealthy and not seen.
You can add. some clips on your Alice's pack i did took metal clip off end add plastic clips took 24 minute
Hello, does it never rain in SOCAL?
Try putting your water bladder in side frame. Between your back and your pack. I ordered a Large ALICE the other day from eBay and that's what I intend to do with mine...
Howdy, great video. Thanks for posting. Do you have a source for that SA ground cover/shelter half? Suggestion water purification tables or Life Straw.
The SA ground cover I got on ebay, but they are very rare. It might take a long time to find one and if you do, expect it to be pricey. As far as water purification tablets, I do carry some on my canteen in my belt. Thanks for the comment.
@@albmartinez314 whether ya go with much older school A.L.I.C.E. (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) Pack & matching/working A.L.I.C.E. (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) Pouches attached or the more modern MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-bearing/carrying Equipment) Backpack's/Duffle Bags/Sling Packs & matching/working MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-bearing/carrying Equipment) Pouches attached either way you're going prepared!
Spent a few years with one of these and a camel bak. Recommend the top method. Had a buddy have a burst on his CB while running it inside, items pressed into it too hard I guess. Anyway, huge mess, but a great way to test your waterproofing, ha ha.
As far as water bladders I cut the shoulder straps off mine and added fast tec buckles in place. Along with buckles to my ALICE pack closure straps. Also to my LBV. The bladder stays on yhe pack but if need be I can quickly remove it and attatch it to my LBV
I'd keep my camel back on the outside of my rucksack . In case it leaks ( happened to me once in the field )
Well it's been two years since you posted this, so hopefully you've fixed all your problems, which there were numerous. Some of the glaring things: your hygiene kit is too big. You don't need bodywash, you do need more socks. You have the large Alice ruck, you can live out of that beast for two weeks. At least you went light on clothing. One set of pants and shirt that you wear and one extra set for and/or if you mess up the set you're wearing. Do get the winter bag for MSS, and never skimp on a cold weather jacket. Even if it's 90 to 100 during the day, it can drop 30 degrees at night and this can be a shock. You must consider the night temp along with the day temp. And last note. Don't bother with VS17 panels. Just go to Lowes or home Depot and buy orange sand bags. They're lighter, pack smaller, and they work better for making LZs. Plus they're a bag of sand, they don't tend blow away in the wind. Anyhow, good luck, think light and no bodywash.
Have the camel back on your back
Nice set up for a starter out add some more stuff but these things are very personal so at least you’re you’re you’re trying need to go out hike try see what works rotate stuff in and out you’ll find stuff that works better for you and some done good starter set up I like it
Good video.
??? what?? Im using my ALECE Medium and it is good enough for three day hiking in forrest. You just need good knife, sleeping bag, carrymat, bivycover, 2litres of water, waterfilter, some food, led flashlight. And thats it. + something to make a fire - best is firesteel. altogether is around 13kilograms on your back and thats enough, I think.
Tucked in
dos cosas, el camelbak yo lo pondria dentro, aunque si consigues ponerlo fuera sin que se mueva nada y se quede bien sujeto pues adelante y otra cosa de donde consigues todo el equipamiento sudafricano?? mola bastante!
Por lo general, el equipamento Sudafricano lo consigo en ebay. Busca al vendedor OldRepublicEnterprises. El vende algunos uniformes y equipamento Sudafricano. Aparte de eso, a veces toma un poco de tiempo encontrar equipamento en ebay. Tambien esta caro. Creo que he gastado mas de $700 dollares (621.84 Euro) en total. Tambien puede ser dificil encontralo ya que le mayoria solo lo encuentras en Sudafrica y puede que tome un poco de tiempo para que te llegue. Por suerte, la mayoria de lo que yo compre lo encontre aqui en los Estados Unidos o lo he conseguido desde Canada, pero todo ha sido por ebay.
Ahora estoy empezando a collecionar equipamento Ruso. De hecho, he estado pensando en deshacerme de algunas partes de mi equipamento sudafricano. No se porque, pero he perdido un poco de interes en ello.
lo ruso es bastante caro jaja mirando precios en greyshop.ru me quede de piedra con los precios!
De hecho logre encontrar un poco de equipamento Ruso viejo. Consegui un cinturon, portacargador, portagranadas, cantinplora, y una pala. Solo me faltan las trinchas. Con respecto al resto de equipamento Ruso, a mi no me preocupa el precio, si no que tarda muchisimo tiempo para que me llegue. Por ejemplo, hace tiempo, compre unas raciones Rusas. Me llegaron desde Rusia, pero tardan mucho tiempo para llegar a los Estados Unidos (1 mes y semana y media mas o menos). Si eres paciented, vale la pena. Por lo general, intento bsucar cosas aqui en Estados Unidos primero (por ebay), y luego en Rusia.
Otra razon porque quiero el Ruso es porque le va bien con mis rifles (fusiles).
Китайцы делают копии рюкзака ALICE...из ,,говна и палок,,...Рама тяжелая...лучше рюкзак армии Норвегии...у него рама алюминиевая и очень легкая..😢😮😂
How many ci is that bag??
And drop the e tool and pick up a small shovel trial foldable cuz that's 5 10 lb right there right up your back realistically how many times you carried out and actually dug a foxhole with it there's other ways to dig a small hole besides using any tool use sticks small foldable shovel snow shovel if you need to stick it snow all kinds of things you don't need that big 10lb freaking shovel
One you're probably not going to dig in foxholes to you will probably want to switch your buck knife outside when e tool is because you'll use your knife more often than you will e tool
You a former 11b or 0300.
Do you live in California
Lot of weight
What officer branch do you want to be part of after you graduate?
Military Police, Reserves.
+albmartinez314 Cool!
Ft. Leonard Wood?👍
Yes.
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