Archer informs T'pol she has to leave
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Is it just me or was Jolene Blaylock's portrayal of a Vulcan underrated?
Its like with Seven of Nine in Voyager. People see a pretty face and think thats all there is to it.
It's not just you, she's underrated as a Vulcan. She has very subtle facial gestures throughout the show to express herself perfectly.
When the camera treats a female character as nothing but eye candy that's how an audience will treat her.
@@joshuahensley9395 True. But with T'Pol it's not the case. She's much more than eye candy.
@@ebolarnator1794 brain candy as well
Reminds me of the Enterprise crew with Data, “For someone who cannot express emotions he sure has a way of eliciting them from others.”
She is a lot more like 7 of 9. Data is able to speculate somewhat and is interested in learning about human emotion, T'Pol just thinks emotions (and speculations) are irrelevant.
Data (pre-emotion chip) is capable of emotions, albeit in a subtle and not so overt manner. He was curious, had a sense of humor, expressed concern, had a sense of right and wrong, and was loyal to his friends. None of these conditions are possible without basic emotions. In a way, he reminds me of a character like Dexter Morgan, capable of feeling rudimentary emotions but still feeling disconnected from the rest of humanity (minus the serial killing, of course).
I will never understand why this series of Star Trek was cancelled.
It was by far the most relatable of all the series, as the crew only lived a century or so from today. The actors did a fantastic job portraying the characters and most of the episodes told truly fantastic stories.
Not to mention the seasonal overarching stories (initial exploration, the Xindi, the Temporal Cold War etc.) were truly captivating.
I'd like to go back in time and convince whoever decided to kill this show off, not to.
Man do I miss when I watched Star Trek episodes just to see what the characters were up to in day-to-day life.
You can't say that about Discovery. It is all about the overarching story, never about regular life things.
Joy L, The reason is plain enough and has been articulated numerous times. It lies in the machinations of one person, whose loathing for the franchise, prompted him to seize upon the erroneous, allegedly poor ratings of Enterprise, to administer the coup de grace, during Season 4. I can't claim to know if he was truly aware of how expanded viewership metrics, admittedly nascent, at that time, reflected that the show had a much wider audience, than what the old school numbers suggested.
What's far worse, however, is his callous and cynical decision to revive televised ST, only to save his flailing streaming service. To emphasize his genuine hatred for what the IP's ethos genuinely represented, he entrusted that endeavour to a hack, who irrefutably shared that same disdain, which has spawned the execrable efforts of the past 5 years, whose only connection is in flaunting the same name that 40 years had so assiduously (if unevenly) burnished, while slavishly degrading that tradition.
I hope this might serve to address your question.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 Thank you. In a way, though you used some very fancy words there.
@@joyl7842, I appreciate your response. I will just add that I use the vocabulary that pops into my head, at the moment the intended thought is conceived. I don't ever want to make any assumptions about other folks' comprehension of the words I use, or their easy means of looking them up, that the interwebs makes simple, if needs must!!!
@@mitchellmelkin4078 It is very impressive. I wish my English was on your level.
Sadly it is only my third language after Dutch and Polish. I never pursued improving and I am not much of a book-reader.
The shareholders didn't think it was "woke" enough.
Loved their chemistry and how they grew to respect each other over time.
If your clips coerce me into rewatching the whole series I will have NO CHOICE but to enjoy myself.
It's true. Good plot lines, great dialog and casting. Could there ever be an homage in the Discovery or Strange New Worlds spinoffs?
Me too. It’s aged very well. Like all Trek.
Resistance. It would be futile.
@@ltmundy1164 “Resistance in this situation Captain would be… illogical.”
as a long time ST fan... I only watched this series a year ago, and it is my favorite. I feel like it was underappreciated.
The character of T'pol as acted by Jolene Blalock was a wonderful addition to the Star Trek Universe. She played the part very well and the character was both intriguing and beautiful.
man i really miss enterprise, i really enjoyed it a lot.
It was the best of all the series.
Agreed. It was the best Star Trek series…by far.
And they're mistaken to believe that T'pol acted under her own agency. She was given a direct order to give the scans to Commander Shran. Vulcans are law abiding citizens. When they receive an order (unless it is clearly an unlawful order), they will say, "Yes sir." then follow the order. T'pol's, at the time of the incident had no reason to believe his order to be unlawful She might not agree with the order but there was no reason to believe it was unlawful It might have been an illegal order, had an Vulcan But for a human to so order is not blatently illegal. The humans didn't have a dog in this fight. They wanted peace at all reasonable costs.
Always loved Enterprise, even back when everyone disliked it. So happy it is finally getting the respect it deserves!
Same..loved the show from day one
The more I watch it the more I like it. I always had DS9 first and Voyager last with TOS above TNG but Enterprise keeps going up in the rankings. I think I've rewatched it more than any other series.
T'Pol has been led around by The High Command so long that no other path is apparent but the one they advocate. One thing she learns from humans is the value of "I". That she is important too. Plus she has so very many friends on Enterprize that will stand at her side. A non Vulcan thing.
I love T'pol and Archer's intense face to face interactions.
I would've loved to have seen Spock, T'Pol and Tuvok compare notes on their Starfleet experiences and their respective captains.
Indeed
@@startrektpol3602 that would be Fascinating....
@@kharjo8099 Indeed.
@@startrektpol3602: Logic would dictate...
Is if they would be equals.
archer must've let out the loudest "bruh" ever heard aboard the enterprise after t'pol left that room
"Bruh" is early 21st Century slang, and fell out of use by the 2060's.
@@timonsolus ok vulcan
T’Pol’s unitard was seriously underrated, as was Seven of Nine’s.
Yep, Archer, Trip, T'Pol were at fault for getting the Sanctuary destroyed because of the listening post that had been constructed there by the Vulcans, makes perfect sense to me! ☺️☺️☺️☺️👌
Crap! Now I want to watch that whole series again.
Me too🤣
In simple English they're trying fire you and make you the scapegoat don't you care,her response"captain i was only suppose to be here 8 days so my time has expired"
“This is one order you shouldn’t follow, and you fucking know it!”
Looks like that PADD has a headphone jack in the top. Hope present-day tech re-adopts that functionality!
Thats a neat sequence: A view of the ship zeroing in on Archer looking out the ready room window. Funny how he's looking through transparent aluminum introduced to earth by Scotty years earlier. Time: its a funny thing.
Of all the Star Trek & they all were great this group, this was the best of all of them !!!
Man every damn scene they had together was so good
She really knew how to play a very believable Vulcan.
Everything about her is underated.
2:06 When Archer tells T'Pol that the High Commands is looking for a scapegoat, the very slight movement of her head tells us "what does this expression mean?" Then Archer precises the meaning of that human expression.
2:17 "an emotional reaction if you ask me..." Her eyelids and her head drop showing her thinking "That's an understatement, on both sides but still... And yet, I led them to P'Jem, so... it certainly must be my fault at some point"
And this scene is a good part of the reason for my recent comments. Archer likes, cares for, and respects T'Pol here.
For a man that hated Vulcans, he really doesn't want her to go.
Hate is much too strong a word. He RESENTED them for patronizing humans which they did incessantly.
@@chrisloesch1870 Yes, that was resentment... but they also blocked his father's, his, and the rest of humanity's work on developing a Warp Speed ship capable of interstellar travel. For THAT, hate is the appropriate term.
@@davidsloat1016 no it’s not sorry
@@chrisloesch1870 I came for an argument, not disagreeing...
Sorry, yes it is. lol.
@@davidsloat1016 no it’s not
The actor that plays archer is just Brillant at his craft, he is a great actor!
He played in the TV series called quatem leap years ago
Scott Bacula
Oh boy
@@fusionere3d RIP Dean Stockwell!
@@mrbear1302 Tell me, are you as disappointed as I was that Dean Stockwell's guest appearance on Enterprise was for a forgettable and inconsequential role instead of something cool like being the shadow man the Suliban took order from?
@0:23 He had to take a moment to appreciate. T'pol, to her credit, understands the logic of this and says nothing.
*A **_lil Outrage_** would have been nice..*_
🙄🤷🏼
Anyone who doesn't like this series didn't understand anything about Star trek and probably loves aberrant stuff like Discovery.
For those who say the Vulcans made them emotional, corrupt and different from the previous series did not understand that this is a Prequel when the Vulcan society is in a historical period of revolution. Only in this series are the teachings of Surak found and distributed to the population. Also the Vulcans here have not yet accepted their telepathic side and it shows how they are manipulated by the Romulans.
They are not the Vulcans of the federation because the Federation does not yet exist, much less its ideals, everything is yet to be built. Fantastic work really a shame it was canceled it deserved at least 3 more seasons.
Still missing this show !
Archer shows he cares about T’Pol and she realizes it. 😀
Not sure she cared though, lol.
@@RurouniKalainGaming I don't know if it's she doesn't care, probably like she doesn't understand it being a Vulcan who suppresses her emotions.
That man would have gone to war with the entire Valcin Nation for Tpol with just a Stick
Not only is archer "Scott Bakula " good in enterprise but I think he does a really good job in NCIS New Orleans also playing as Pride
And he was excellent in Quantum Leap as well.
@@davidsloat1016 th-cam.com/video/O3EKb9q0lv4/w-d-xo.html Quantum Leak
@@hankkingsley2976 Oh, boy!
@@davidsloat1016 RIP Dean Stockwell.
Curious, I feel very differently about his role as Captain Archer. I think Bakula was a complete miscast and never fit the role of a Star Trek Captain. On top of that, I think he is not a very good actor. Granted, if it hadn't taken the show writers until season 4 to FINALLY get the theme and content of the series right, him playing the captain wouldn't have bothered me as much as it did.
I guess Enterprise had to drop out of warp for Archer to break the bad news to T'Pol.
Well, they had to rendez-vous with the Vulcan ship. Once the order arrives it doesn't really make a lot of sense to contue warping ahead.
It is cheaper budget wise
I am so glad that Enterprise didn’t follow the example of “ that 70’s show” or “How I met your mother” and have everyone have a relationship with t’pol. How I met your mother everyone wanted Robin (including Lilly) and the ’70’s show Jackie was a Ho, and did everyone but Eric and Donna. I am glad T’Pol and the captain had a mutual respect relationship. There was the episode where he lost his short term memory and they were together, but it seemed more platonic.
I think that having a relationship with someone who lost his short term memory would be the equivalent as abuse anyway. T'Pol respects Archer too much for that.
@@quoniam426 Didn't they though in that alternative timeline? Phlox hinted that their relationship had evolved (with a big smile). That would seem to be intimate IMO.
She's like this diminutive pixie who seems fragile and vulnerable but in reality could actually pull your arms off.
Unlikely, she's not a wookie.
@@LordTalax She could do a Vulcan neck pinch to knock you unconscious and then use her Vulcan strength to do it at her leisure with the best approach as Vulcans are 5x stronger than a human lb for lb). After all, that is one of the most logical ways to do it.
@@rbrought I thought it was only 3x
Jolene Blalock is the best Vulcan next to Leonard Nimoy and not just because she's hot Kim Cattrall and Kirstie Alley played Vulcans as well they were hot too but not as good as Jolene there is like ZERO emotions in her face throughout the series except when the story called for it of course.
Please don't go. Please don't go.
I know what O am going tonsay wont be popular, but T'Pol Is the best Vulcan member of the Federation, I get it, Spock should be No1 but remember Spock was half human, T'Pol was in fact 100% Vulcan
Stand and fight!
Terran Battlecruiser Commodore: I really have to go, Number One.
Archer: You really have to go, Number One.
😛
He expects her to have an emotional reaction because he was always flipping out about something.
yes Archer is one hell of an emotional guy.
The next person beside Tpol who doesn't seems to have any emotions is that Reed guy
Give her a hug dammit!
It wasn’t the Humans or Tpols fault it was the Vulcans fault using it to spy on andoria
The Andorrans were in their right to destroy that station. Vulcans treats races they deem lessor than them like animals.
The only suitable replacement is 7 of 9
7 of 9 had a much better outfit...... hehehehe
Heh heh, I think he's got just the tiiiiiniest crush on her... not that I blame him 😁❤️
He despises Vulcans. She has earned her place on his crew, and he respects her greatly.
@@Dakarn
There is literally a fucking episode where he has a crush on her. Also another episode where T'pol literally takes care of him in an alternate reality. "Despises Vulcans" my ass.
@@beh.r_co-mando.1374 He did despise vulcans, but T'pol grew on him over time, and as he grew to care for her as a member of his crew as well as a friend, that prejudice lessened as well.
@@captaindrake1235 not a prejudice at all considering how the Vulcans treated him, his dad and all humans
And who would not?
T'Pol simply responded like a Vulcan.
Who needs humans as allies when they do these things 🥴
Ay!, Mr. R-Chair, I zink ye should be zeh Vuhn leaving, Heergh! I zink, Ye took a rawng turn Oont Vorpt, Heergh, By axe-e-dent. So, Ye just go on Oont Kohn-teen-u, Yer Quantum-Leapairz!
0:15 That's the Alpha Quadrant's Ass.
I'm not watching this clip.
I've decided to watch the show.
I'm really going to do it.
This pleases me
The last TV series I watched on VHS
Good actress, saw her on letterman and she was total opposite of the character hehe.
Ht as hell too godmn.
"Emergency evac"
Ds9 4 life!
I’m a 3rd Generation Star Trek fan. The new Star Trek shows suck ! Pikes Enterprise looks like a Vagus Strip Bar ! What happened from Kirk’s ship and Pike’s ? Archer’s ship looks right, hence why it was such a great show.
I think I could see one of the veins in Archer’s forehead throbbing
Which episode was this scene from?
Season 1, Episode 15
Shadows of P'Jem
@@davidanderson4091 Ep 14
@@markvanoosterhout5074 Depends on your source. My Season 1 Boxed set lists it as Episode 14, as does Netflix, because in both cases, they list the pilot, double-episode "Broken Bow" as Episode 1 - Parts 1 and 2. Memory Alpha shows it as 15 as does Wikipedia and IMDB. TVDB list it as both, calls it 15 in "Aired Order" but 14 in "DVD Order" (which matches up with what it says on my boxed set..
@@davidanderson4091 I stand corrected. Just watched the episode and as you said, Netflix listed it as 14. Thanks for the info. Have a great day!
And of course, they don't indicate which episode this is from.
Yeah. It's annoying. Fortunately, I know this one. Season 1's Shadows of P'jem.
@@InfernosReaper Thank you for the info
@@Regin314 No problem. It's one of the Shran episodes, so it stuck out in my mind.
That’s what she said.
Parlato in Italiano
Damn u Tpol u didn't pay the rent now u will be homeless dont u care?
🖖😊🖖🍁♈🍁
Archer had some perky glutes. Hey
Amen. One of the three best butts on sci-fi TV next to John Crichton (Farscape) and Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly). 🍑🏆👍
@@jeremyphillips7827 Conner Trinneer had the best cakes on ENT though.
she only should leave because of that haircut.
As usual, STE with the cringe, rock-bottom writing with Archer spoon feeding Star Trek 101 to us kindergarteners.
Archer: big news T'pol -- prepare your soul!
T'pol: I understand.
Archer: what the!? no emotion!?
That pothole is way out of proportion to the size of the ship .. Unless the ship is a T.A.R.D.I.S. .. They never get the scale right in these programs and movies ..