Final Fantasy - Did You Know Gaming? Feat. JonTron (Final Fantasy Easter Eggs)
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In this episode, Did You Know Gaming takes a look at some facts, secrets, Easter eggs and history of Final Fantasy. We focus on a few Final Fantasy games including Final Fantasy 7, which laid the foundations for Final Fantasy 15.
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I think the reason why, in American ports, that things like "Pub" and "Bar" get changed to "Cafe" is that references to alcohol contribute to a higher ESRB rating.
Could also apply to cigarettes, etc. as "Drug reference." Again, higher ESRB ratings. Especially in the early ESRB days; when parents would've been worried about exposing their children to extreme violence and such.
I keep having new thoughts while looking at other comments. It's easy to think of things in the context of the now - people now are starting to appreciate video games and fighting censorship, but this wasn't the case back then. I say it's not about not wanting to offend people, it's about marketing.
+Eric the Red Final Fantasy VI/III did not have an ESRB rating when it was first released, although it was later given one.
+Eric the Red censorship is a vast improvement to games such as changing pub to cafe and it's to LOWER the ESRB rating
The ESRB didn't exist when Final Fantasy IV and VI came out in America originally.
Wait, the tombstone was an actual Zelda reference? I got kinda freaked out because I named my main guy Link.
Levi Cornell wait seriously? Lol
Bruh.
@Frogger what does that mean
"Hey Mom! An enemy in my Final Fantasy is smoking! Can you buy me a cig?!"
-said no one ever.
"Realistic death" a 2 meter sword impaling from the sky.
It's more realistic in the idea that her death was random and meaningless. Most major protagonist deaths in Final Fantasy and most games at the time were usually in the form of a sacrifice that saves others or has some benefit overall. Aeris just... died. No sacrifice, no benefit, just the bad guy killing the good guy and getting away with it.
Rakanadyo
Thats how you define realistic? *Random* and *meaningless*?
Im sorry but i prefeer the old sacrifice cliche even if i hate it over the "look im trying super hard to impress you" random shit that was Aeris death.
I think he means realistic in the sense that sometimes people die and there's not always a specific reason why it had to happen it just does. Most devs at the time just wanted to make successful games and would cater to their audiences making the most cliche shit possible. I imagine the move to kill her senselessly pissed off a lot of people, and it was something not a lot of devs at the time would do. He literally wasn't trying to impress, he just wanted his fans to feel what he was feeling at the time, and it pretty much worked. FF7 is still one of the best, if not the best, in the FF series.
It is very realistic, when you take into account the fact that this is a franchise where a guy could suplex a train.
The lack of the full embracing of realism is not mutually exclusive with, in general, the idea of realism.
1:34 Speaking of Link, doesn't that green guy look a bit like him?
It's an elf, their sprites use the typical fantasy forest dwelling elf designs
I love how Rose of May is playing in the background. Easily one of the best songs from the entire franchise.
There's a Final Fantasy episode? And it's with JON TRON? AND I NOTICE THAT NOW?
And Im just realizing this now...
Censoring out a puff of smoke.
Man, censorship has gotten really out of hand.
What's wrong with that? The censorship was an improvement
+Carl Bloke Nae.
psychokinrazalon Improvement
Carl Bloke Nu
psychokinrazalon Yeah
They should do one on Namco's "Tales" series
I know this video is ancient at this point, but it is going to bug me unless I say it.
The series was originally going to be called Fighting Fantasy, but that name was already taken by a series of "Chose your Own Adventure" style books. They wanted to keep the alliteration and went with Final Fantasy instead. Sakaguchi has been quoted as saying, "To be sure, we had our backs to the wall when we were developing Final Fantasy. But really, anything that started with an F would have been fine for the title.”
@daniel galindo
The song is called: Rose of May (Loss of Me)
For some reason I can't reply to you.
thanks!!!
19ACE93 What was the name of the song that started with a harp then sounded dramatic through the middle? It was at 0:45
Wolf 1140 the final dungeon theme of the PS1, GBA, PS4, and Mobile versions of Final Fantasy 1
1:29 Does that mean that Final Fantasy is a prequel to The Legend of Zelda on the NES?!
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What is the first sound called when he was talking about final fantasy 7?
3:01 - Nice job of making it look even better.
The Erdrick reference in FF1 was because in an early Nintendo Power issue there was a contest where you had to answer questions about the game. One of the questions was "How old was Erdrick when he died?"
American censored games like this yet they create games like South Park, GTA and Manhunt...lol
Manhunt and gta are made by the same people.
Final fantasy isnt rated 18 like manhunt or gta
Gta is made for adults
This game came out in 1993, this is 2014. Common sense would say that times have changed.
John Oliver b/c the game was made for a bigger audience. Its an action game adventure thats nothing young teens shouldnt see. thats like making mario M just so they can see peach's breast.
John Oliver an option settings wont help b/c kids can turn that off super easily and that cost way more money to make a whole another game just so teens can look at a character naked? people would complain that its useless DLC there is no way to fix censorship then to have each country deal with it. The US censored the nuke launcher in fallout and changed the name to avoid conflict.
John Oliver ok but i think most censorship works to make the majority happy which would be the parents who don't want kids to see nudity or get the option. They wont cater for the minority who doesn't care or wants the original.
I think if they were gonna kill off someone it was Aerith because her level 4 limit break was way to over powered. Because it fully heals all your party members and makes them invulnerable for the rest of the battle
Ok, I remember this video I got in the mail from Sony. It was full of interviews of the creators of Final Fantasy VII, and I seem to remember Sakaguchi mentioning his mother dying during the making of an earlier Final Fantasy.
Thanks man it took me forever to find it, you helped alot
Sakaguchi-sensei, I owe you so much... without the Final Fantasy series, games would be mere passtimes for me. This series marks the point where I realized that games can be so much more than just that
Final Fantasy 1 is the shit yo.
LeafyLucario64 5th favorite in the series Imo
I love his delivery of the Czar Dragon's line.
You hit the nail on the head, nothing left to add to that.
To bad they gave JonTron an incorrect script. As the name "Final Fantasty" was not named because Hironobu was going to quit the industry. The confirmed insider information was because Square was going to go bankrupt and this game was going to be its "Swan Song" (as it was to far in development to cancel). Every game developed after the first had a Number afterwards because it may very well be their last and each one (excluding direct sequels/prequels) are stand alone titles.
Also wrong: The designer has stated that he wanted to call it Fighting Fantasy, but the name was trademarked to a different company/game so they changed it to Final
@@robertmacneish4470 finally someone with correct information. Yes. While it is often believed that square named it final fantasy because it was going to be their last game, it was actually because they wanted to name it fighting fantasy, but that name was taken. While they were nearly bankrupt, there was no true indication that this had to be their last game. Final fantasy simply seemed like a name similar to the one they originally planned, so it stuck.
Here is a fact: The name FINAL FANTASY is not because it was their last chance to make a succesful game. It as really because they wanted a name with the dual use of the letter F (efu/eju, being apparently a popular thing back then in Japan). In the end, Final Fantasy was a more appealing thing.All of this according to Sakaguchi himself.
Here is the link: kotaku.com/debunking-the-final-fantasy-naming-myth-1707389344?Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&Kotaku_Facebook&Socialflow
+Jimmy Ramos While you are correct Kotaku is a terrible gaming news site and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Did you know:
That the gameplay systems introduced in Final Fantasy II, created by Akitoshi Kawazu, were later used and perfected in the SaGa series for the Gameboy, SNES, PS1 and PS2? A similar system was also used in The Last Remnant for the X-Box 360 and PC.
Akitoshi Kawazu also produced Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Legend of Mana, and The Last Remnant. He was also lead game designer of Final Fantasy I & II, as well as the director of every SaGa game.
In Final Fantasy I, there's a hidden minigame. While on the ship, hold B and mash A a bunch of times, and you'll open a sliding number puzzle. It's one of those ones where you have to slide the pieces to arrange the numbers 1 through 15 in order. If you finish it, you get gil and items, and the faster you finish it, the better reward you get. (I used to be pretty good at it; at my peak, I could do it in under a minute each time.)
AERIS DIED? WTF SPOILERS
I'm actually surprised you didn't know that. It's basically the "I am your father" of video games.
LeafyLucario64
DARTH VADER WAS LUKE'S FATHER? WTF SPOILERS
Morbutt kek
are you serious that game is like 20 years old. if you haven't played it yet that's your own fault
The Fourth Captain
holy fucking shit it's called satire
I don't think I could have laid it out any thicker than I did. People of TH-cam never fail to surprise me.
If I'm not mistaken, Final Fantasy received its name not just in part to Sakaguchi's desires but from the hex number 0xFF which translates to 8 bits (11111111) in binary (or 255 in decimal). This reflects the fact that 8 bits was the largest value accessible to any game programmer at the time, and considering the scale of the game and the amount of code that went into it, it's all too fitting that Final Fantasy's initials are FF. However, whether the initials or the name came first (in which I'm wrong or it's simply coincidence), I cannot say.
Amazing.
It also explains the stats maxing out at 255 in most games.
Sakaguchi the lead designer has stated that he wanted to call it Fighting Fantasy, but the name was trademarked to a different company/game so they changed it to Fina. Because s the word "Final" was a famous word in Japan, Sakaguchi settled on that. According to Sakaguchi, any title that created the "FF" abbreviation would have done.
that's great to hear, i'm really looking ford to it coming out in Australia
I love how they played 'The rose of May' from FF IX in a FF VII fact. My two faves.
you know... the czar dragon looks kinda like a super powered shiny rayquaza... POKEMON DELTA EMERALD CONFIRMED!!
He'll yeah primal raquaza here I come
MEGA RAYQUAZA CONFIRMEDDDD
JonTron and Egoraptor, and MatPat from Game Theory give the best commentary for these. They have a much more natural read and performance.
GG you're renown in all the world i'm french and i've seen you video continue like that
In the PS1 port of FF6, The pub sign still says "PUB" but when you walk inside it says Cafe
Final Fantasy the game series that has final in its name but never has a finale
Theres a reference to that in the Anime Blood Lad lol.
KingOfChaos213
I'm not a fan of anime ( I do not know why) So I wouldn't know about but I was trying for something more catchy but I missed and made that terrible comment xD
sigh America, when will you ever understand when it comes to censorship
NoA = the entire country.
Song at 0:12 is Rose of may from Final fantasy IX
That victory theme was perfectly timed
America wants to shelter it's people as much as possible when it comes to video games which is odd and hypocritical considering the gratuitous sex appeal in movies shows and marketing that gets by easy
1:25 FUN FACT:
The same person that made dragon ball and dragon ball z (Akira Toriyama.) does the art for dragon quest (as you can tell by the similarities.) and that same dragon showed up in one of the first mangas of dragon ball
*The more you know*
I don't think that's much of a secret....It's pretty obvious in fact.
No fucking shit! *the more you know*
He also did I the art, or at least the character design, for Chrono Trigger.
Every time I see Aeris I get goosebumps. And I am instantly taken back to when I first played the game
Once when I was watching this there was an ad for Final Fantasy XIV A realm reborn.
that's final fantasy 7 for the ps1 right? should I play it on a emulator?
well mine isn't xd
John Oliver those are PS2 games your PC probably cant run the PS2 emulator while most people can run PS1 emulators
John Oliver well im sure you can play PS1 ISO's on PCSX2 but i use ePSXe for PS1 games
John Oliver mabye i dont really play PS2 games on emulators
You can buy it on the ps store for 10$ or on steam with slightly updated graphics.
Hey, I have always wanted to try final fantasy, where should I start
***** you can't play 12. YET.
ff4, duh
You might feel bored if you start with the originals. Try 10 or 12 first. 7-9 are awesome. 1-6 are really old-school styled games. 13 is shameful, but you might like it if you're used to modern video games.
To be honest I tried getting into it a few times and failed with ff4, ff6 and ff7. However, I recently tried ff 10 and I really like it, played over 11 hours so far. I recommend it :)
FF6 or FF9. 9 is full of references to the older ones and may be fun to replay when you understand them
0:25 he wanted to display a realistic death. *watches the death scene* LOL
Czar Dragon was also the name of the boss in Barrel Volcano in Mario RPG.
Censorship makes my fucking blood boil. Its insulting to me.
Zayaan Nashrid IKR and these fucking journalists compare having tits in videogames to female mutilation. fucking psychos
weeb
ColdRamen
>FE icon
I thought they did it pretty fair
JonTron :(
Another instance of censorship was the removal of references to "praying" in FF4 and FF6. In FF4, in the Mysidian tower, they are "wishing" instead of "praying," and in FF6, in the tower of Kefka's cult, they are "thinking of him" instead of "praying to him." These were restored in the GBA versions of the games.
The music that starts on 1:43 kinda sounds like the Stone Tower music from LoZ Majora's mask.
The issue with the censoring is that the MPAA and ESRB are a bunch of twats and will often knock up a age rating for essentially no reason whatsoever, this is even more true when it comes to anything even implying sexuality or sexual content.
My answer to that is. No one gives a shit.
Seriously, if kids are playing CoD, what is the use of a rating system? I for one don't follow it, maybe because I played persona 3 on the ps2 when I was 12 years old, even though it had a mature rating.
Carlo Latonio I understand what's being said contextually but what I'm about to say is a a bit off contextually.
Better to have the rating to have an argument towards Conservative, Republican, Old shits saying Games make kids violent.
Jeremythellama1 It was actually Joe Leiberman and another Democrat that first made this an issue in the 90s. Another Democrat (I think it was Oklahoma, not positive) wanted to tax violent video games a few years ago.
The false stereotype that Republicans are old men has lead to people blaming them instead of the Democratic party.
Did you know? Final fantasy used to be a good gaming series until it turned into pure shit when Squaresoft turn into Square Enix.
L0ppuy but then in 2016 they brought us Final Fantasy XV
(also i hear XIV is good but like hell i have the money to play that)
Correct.
@@Heisenkirk2000
FFXV is trash
You scared the hell out of me for a moment lmao.
gotta love that 16 bit animation
Had to get my jontron fix
Do cocaine, it is better than jontron and less racist
@@dontspikemydrink9382boohoo
This is a test to see if I can see my own comment on this video because:
THE NEW COMMENT SYSTEM FUCKING SUCKS!
Well her death is better then using the same old *Sacrifice* scene you seen in most games.
Yo i want more final fantasy DYKG! Thanks again
People making a big deal about the censorship when it literally makes no difference in storytelling. *sips tea*
Some of us want to experience what the artists were made, in the original form. Not have things we must not be able to handle, change for no reason. Censorship is NOT a good thing.
But changing something as literal as Bar to Pub and taking out a smoke puff is no need to say "censorship is bad!" The game devs COULD have changed the rating of the game, but since they didn't you still get their unique art. Those two pixels of cleavage that you can't see isn't something to get so worked up on like most of the people in this comment section. Censorship CAN be good so wider variety of people can play the games and too make sure certain lines aren't crossed that some people may not be comfortable with. It's one thing if they changed major plot points, but just a few graphic changed isn't a big deal.
bar vs. cafe does change the meaning of the building. Those small details such as cleavage shouldn't change the rating anyway. This type of regressive thinking is all too common today. Thanks for proving it further.
A) I was attempt to be nice and civil. No need to be an ass hat. B) if it wasn't for censorship, I wouldn't have gotten into my favorite game franchise at a young age or games in general.
If they weren't okay changing anything, they would've changed the damn rating. They were okay with it so they can make more money, so they make more games, so they can listen more people like you bitch about how horrible the American release is because those few pixels.
I want to see pixelated butts to jerk my preteen peepee to!
Oh America. Censor Nudity but don't care if 5 Year olds use guns.
+DasAlternativeEnde I should point out that at the time, Mortal Kombat caused an outrage for its violence. The US could've set up a government-regulated censorship board, but instead allowed a self-regulating body, the ESRB, to judge the content of games and classify their age rating. It was violence that predominantly landed videogames in hot water, not sexual content.
And everyone in this thread is calling the examples in the video 'censorship'. It isn't, not really. Square and its localisation teams decided to make those changes themselves, the US government didn't have anything to do with it.
+Jon Prz what are you talking about? Yes it is
+Steven Staniszewski Which is stupid. The demographic that plays these games can handle the explicit material just fine.
psychokinrazalon not everybody all together. nintendo is being alot more considerate of people's mental well being and you all are fools for trying to think its okay for them to promote explicit content
Carl Bloke I saw explicit content as early as fifth grade, and I'm perfectly mentally healthy. Hell, I'd say I'm even stronger as a result of having known from an early age what a woman's body looks like.
Not necessarily. There's strategy involved in what you do during your turn, not to mention how you must think fast or they may attack you before you decide what to do.
The song's title is Loss of Me. It's Beatrix's theme from FFIX
From what i have heard over the years the reason the Final fantasy series got the name Final fantasy was because at the time squire was going broke and the first game of this series is what saved them from said bankruptcy. again this is what I have heard is the reason over the years.
In 2015, Sakaguchi explained the name's origin: the team wanted a title that would abbreviate to "FF", which would sound good in Japanese. The name was originally going to be Fighting Fantasy, but due to concerns over trademark conflicts with the roleplaying gamebook series of the same name, they needed to settle for something else. As the word "Final" was a famous word in Japan, Sakaguchi settled on that. According to Sakaguchi, any title that created the "FF" abbreviation would have done.
Is it just me or is Final Fantasy 1 terrible due to too much grinding and a lack of any sort of direction given to the player
+thomas garrett (Pokemastertomm) This was back in the '80s. Proper introductions, tutorials, and deep stories were absent from games due to storage limitations, thus, players had to rely on instruction manuals. This stays true up until the 6th Generation, when the PS2 was the highlight.
In short, Final Fantasy I isn't particularly bad, just incredibly outdated.
It would be great if DYK could do a piece on Conker.
About how Conker's Bad Fur Day was original supposed to be "The Twelve Tales" but it did not receive good reviews, and about his beginnings in Diddy Kong Racing. Also the differences between the original N64 version and the XBox remake. I think it would be really neat to see all of that into one colaboration.
For a little more in-depth look at Final Fantasy and people who created it. I thoroughly suggest checking out All your Complaints - History of Squaresoft pt. 2 "Final Fantasy". Its a half-hour on the first four years of the company. Its really well done.
Hahaha America and their censorship... what South Park censores in the EU but not in the USA? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU......
I know, right...? Makes absolutely no sense at all...
That's a really neat theory, seeing as how someone at Square must have thought, "let's bury this guy like a time capsule." Then he was dug up, and everything exploded.
I like how changing the colour of a sprite suddenly makes it clothed...
i wish they mad mention of the Nintendo 64 DD version of FF7. Development of Final Fantasy VII began in 1994. The game was originally intended for release on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, but was moved to the Nintendo 64. However, since the Nintendo 64's cartridges lacked the required storage capacity, Square decided to release the game for the CD-ROM based PlayStation instead. Final Fantasy VII was produced by Hironobu Sakaguchi and directed by Yoshinori Kitase.
In the Scott Pilgrim game, if you go to Wallaces secret shop you can buy an item called "never ending fantasy" as a reference to this series.
I believe the final version of Final Fantasy VI did in fact refer to Czar Dragon. In the cave where you find Shadow, one of the the 3 survivors talks about it saying that if someone were to destroy it then they'd be free. I felt that in destroying the 7 legendary dragons and it would've most likely made the WoR considerably more livable despite Kefka reigning as a god.
The boss in ff6 called Chadarnook also had more fog covering up the form of the naked woman.
1:29 guessing Akira toryama drew that design because it looks alot like our favorite anime character
One of the best game series.
Your icon makes it all the funnier xD
Ok i must honestly ask, how do you search through a game's code? Example being- the newest dykgaming video "Kingdom Hearts" they have again stated looking through the games code reveals (etc.) how do you do this??
I did, I've seen that one scene several times, Im saying is that, even though dead people float, we can also float, if we are alive, we can do it to little to no effort. And if she were alive, which is hard to believe, she'd most likely use some energy, it would make sense that there would be one last thing she'd say...that theory is unsound.
Tsar (another spelling of Czar) was also the biggest nuke ever and (separate ) was also the biggest cannon ever.
The PSP version, FFIV: The Complete Collection, which has an upgraded port / remake of IV, an Interlude, and FFIV: The After Years. Interlude bridges the gap between the two games.
gow about when czar dragon say humans and their desires its a reference to us, the player looking through the codes for some thing extra and when he say he's finally free, he means free from the code he was stuck as.......food for thought.......
My guess on the change from Pub to Cafe is due to the character Shadow's nature. He doesn't seem like an alchy to me...more of a coffee guy. Hard to assassinate people when you're hammered lol
Nice fun facts!!!
Here's something i found about Czar Dragon that i found interesting. There's a theory going round that Square intentionally hid the boss in the games code for hackers to find, this can be noted by a part of Czar's quote "Humans and their desires! I'm free at last!" which suggests Czar was supposedly trapped in the game's code and by hacking the game the hackers have freed Czar.
I really used to love these games, then 13 came out.
One complaint I have about Final Fantasy games (well actually adventure/ RPG games in general) is the fact that in a lot of them in order to save your game, you have to find a "save point, I prefer when you can save anytime you want. I mean what if I'm playing a game and I have to leave for work in 5 minutes but it'll take me 10 to get to the nearest save point. Leaving my console on for 8 hours is not a good idea, and shutting it off means I'll lose all my progress!
In Pokemon Yellow Japanese version, if you send out a ditto during a mew battle, it will corrupt your save file. But when you start over again, you will have all lvl 100 Pokemon containing Shiny Charizard, Shiny Blastoise, and a shiny Venusaur. The other three Pokemon are shiny mew, shiny ditto and a shiny Pikachu
or at least in parts, and also, did you know? the original conker ending was more dark than the original we got, it was conker going up to a mirror in the pub and pointing a gun in his head, the screen would fade to black and a gunshot would be heard, insisting that conker commited suicide.
Czar Dragon reminds me of Bahamut from Final Fantasy 3 (6) for the SNES.
gives me tingles
Man, i hope it is this one "Final Fantasy IX OST - Loss of Me ~ Beatrix's Theme" I went through the whole FF IX OST looking for this one. I knew it was in FFix but couldn't remember the name
Bonus Comment fact: Did you know the original script and design for Final Fantasy 7 was meant to include a side quest were Aeris could be revived, however do to meeting deadline, had to be cut. How close were they to finishing? Well during a handful of dialogue moments there are pauses that last a little to long to be a pause for dramatic effect. These pauses were in fact originally bits where Aeris would speak. How about that huh?
I have the gba port and all the pubs are referred to correctly. Is that fact wrong or do I have a fake copy?
we kind of suspected it but it's interesting to know
Final Fantasy is a shining example of the idea that great games are made when the developer has no other choice. When a developer tells us how much fun he's had making the game, it shows because I am not having as much fun.
MAKE A PART TWO
1:45 what's the name of that tune playing? That shits beautiful.
Yeah, it always feels good to find something in there. :)