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Do they have children? Could you imagine watching your father be treated that way? And im sure her behavior doesnt end with him. Someone in my life treats her partner this way and it makes me so uncomfortable to be around them. She is so lucky to have such an incredible husband and i do not understand how she can treat him that way.
Some men want to be dominated by a woman. The reason? Well, Dr. PHIL brought up the.....keeps John from having to think!!! Part of this is he doesn't have to use his brain! Laziness? She does pretty much everything? Sounds like it. So when things go south he can just blame her!!! Also, I grew up with a controlling mother. No father around. Now my mother wasn't as bad as Rochelle. I was used to being told what to do, How to do it, Where to do it, When to do it. And there was no questioning her or else you would go through hell!!! My mother didn't care about your opinion. My mother never bat down or apologize or admitted.Fault so you just quit trying. I grew up that way so that's how my other relationships ended up being ..until.... I got jobs and my bosses started talking to me, They did not like my mother and they told me why. But I remember in high school that I used to tell my friends how I never wanted to grow up to be like my mother. I hated that woman much of the time. I did not know how to act any other way until I saw other people acting differently. I grew up at home mostly alone. My brothers were working to supportt the family. Again, I really had no socialization. Out of high school.I had poor socialization skills. I was used to being told what to do and with my mother again was used to not saying anything but just doing whatever she said. I had to learn, relearn how to live in society. I talked to friends, I started going to church, and observing how people related to each other And of course it was so different than what I grew up with. I think that there is the possibility that John does not love his wife. Who knows. But he must be getting something positive. ???? Or he wants to leave and doesn't have the guts to do it. Who's bringing in the money? Would he be able to make it on his own financially ?? other or anything else??? Could he actually make it without her? He obviously would have to have a new normal but he may not be able to handle a new normal. And my question is, why is she so cotton picking controlling? Where did this come from? Why is this woman acting like this? She learned it from somewhere most likely? . Are her parents like this?
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Why are they directing it all at him when she is the one who is a narcissistic bully? If he were treating her like that people would have sympathy and understanding for her
Completely right thier...tines have changed since then...thiers no 'man up' rules anymore..he's afraid of her..he couldn't speak up to her..couldn't watch it all as they went about things completely wrong
I think they're just trying to have him accept this isn't normal and he doesn't deserve to be treated that way. They most likely think she's a lost cause so they're focusing on him.
You're fully alive and fully yourself when you can live by your own rules .. have your lovers and have your friends, but keep them separate from your own goals and dreams.
people need to stop using that description, the stockholm syndrome. patty hearst, the first "stockholm" victim, the one that robbed the bank with her kidnappers, said that she hates that term, that she always knew she was in danger, always knew her kidnappers were her kidnappers; she only went along because she needed to stay alive, not because she was relating to her kidnappers
Those controllers should ask themselfs what kind a sick version of a partner they like! Cause on thing is for sure: this is not the real person! It’s like you have a lot of money and people are nice too you because of the money! You don’t know who is real and who is fake!! I love, when people have the freedom of choice and still choose you!! That would make me feel much better than putting pressure on people to do what I want!! ✌🏻
I believe the controlling partner trained their controlled partner believe that only they make a good decision! So the controlled partner is afraid to make decisions because the controlling partner will destroy every idea of a decision!!
Amazing now in 2024 I have been married twice and both times it didn’t last. I tried both times to be the best person ever. I would NEVER have spoken to my husband like that…
This story is mind blowing! This man suffers from Stockholm Syndrome or what?! He makes me feel very uncomfortable, he seams so weak. Not to mention the controlling wife is 100% obnoxious
This is appalling hello gender equality this man is a victim of abuse !calling him a wuss would never be ok nowadays its uncomfortable to watch the victim blaming
He should not allow her to treat him this way - that's the reason why everyone is confronting him, they want him to stand up for himself and stop the abuse coz she's a lost cause.
A woman being controlled they wouldnt call her a woss ,now men being controlled is serious topic ,even on this dhow doctor phil calling him a wuss,its hard to for a controlled person to get brzve and srand up to the controller,a man on dr.phil in 2023 would bever be czlled weak or wuss
I wish I could get the answer to the question: "Do you want to be right or happy?" Because that implies to me, give in. You shouldn't always have to give in to be happy. Just like you were telling John! So, I'm confused🤔
Saying “ Daddy does it wrong” in front of the kids, is terribly wrong!! It teaches those kids not to respect their Dad/ parental alienation. also called ABUSE - 😮
She treats him like a child. I’ve not watched the whole thing yet, but I’d guess the husband is very conflict averse. He also may have a very controlling mother. My ex married a woman who leads him around by the nose. It’s sad.
They checked back with them like over a decade ago. They were still married then. A couple with no children. By choice. Apperantley the advice helped them. Curious to know if they're together today too :-)
He sounds alot like women who have been abused by their partner. He has lost his sense of self as separate from the wife. I think it probably happened over time.
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I’d love to know where these couples are now, 12 years later
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That is/was a toxic marriage. That wife is a narcissistic bully.
Awesome interview I love Dr. Phil and opera together
Saw this in real time. Great show
Do they have children? Could you imagine watching your father be treated that way? And im sure her behavior doesnt end with him. Someone in my life treats her partner this way and it makes me so uncomfortable to be around them. She is so lucky to have such an incredible husband and i do not understand how she can treat him that way.
I wonder what he does for work
Calling him a wimp was awful. She is emotionally abusive to him. A woman experiencing this would not be ridiculed and this poor guy shouldn’t
Absolutely agree!!
He is a wimp!
Some men want to be dominated by a woman. The reason? Well, Dr. PHIL brought up the.....keeps John from having to think!!! Part of this is he doesn't have to use his brain! Laziness? She does pretty much everything? Sounds like it. So when things go south he can just blame her!!!
Also, I grew up with a controlling mother. No father around. Now my mother wasn't as bad as Rochelle. I was used to being told what to do, How to do it, Where to do it, When to do it. And there was no questioning her or else you would go through hell!!! My mother didn't care about your opinion. My mother never bat down or apologize or admitted.Fault so you just quit trying.
I grew up that way so that's how my other relationships ended up being ..until.... I got jobs and my bosses started talking to me, They did not like my mother and they told me why. But I remember in high school that I used to tell my friends how I never wanted to grow up to be like my mother. I hated that woman much of the time. I did not know how to act any other way until I saw other people acting differently. I grew up at home mostly alone. My brothers were working to supportt the family. Again, I really had no socialization. Out of high school.I had poor socialization skills. I was used to being told what to do and with my mother again was used to not saying anything but just doing whatever she said. I had to learn, relearn how to live in society. I talked to friends, I started going to church, and observing how people related to each other And of course it was so different than what I grew up with. I think that there is the possibility that John does not love his wife. Who knows. But he must be getting something positive. ???? Or he wants to leave and doesn't have the guts to do it. Who's bringing in the money? Would he be able to make it on his own financially ?? other or anything else??? Could he actually make it without her? He obviously would have to have a new normal but he may not be able to handle a new normal. And my question is, why is she so cotton picking controlling? Where did this come from? Why is this woman acting like this? She learned it from somewhere most likely? . Are her parents like this?
We (some of us) have become more emotionally intelligent than we were back then, thankfully.
This poor guy obviously needs help. I hate that people are hating on him.
Right? If a woman were being controlled like this there would be compassion
“ Don’t breathe like that”!😂 REDICULOUS!! 😵💫
For a 2001 oprah episode, the energy gives 80s early 90s oprah when that show was more dramatic
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Why are they directing it all at him when she is the one who is a narcissistic bully? If he were treating her like that people would have sympathy and understanding for her
Completely right thier...tines have changed since then...thiers no 'man up' rules anymore..he's afraid of her..he couldn't speak up to her..couldn't watch it all as they went about things completely wrong
I think they're just trying to have him accept this isn't normal and he doesn't deserve to be treated that way. They most likely think she's a lost cause so they're focusing on him.
They already spent an episode on her! Now they are trying to get him to wake up. At least that’s my understanding of it.
That’s so mean that they keep calling him names .::
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I would like to see the first episode with John and Rochelle!
No judging here. Learned a thing or two from this interview/show. Love to all!❤
I wonder if they’re still married today.
I would bet the ranch on it that they are.
They are not. I follow her on tiktok. The divorced 2019
I can’t believe this lady has the guts to show her face 😂
People were so disrespectful to John.
He may have experienced this in his childhood, it’s a trauma bond. If he doesn’t want to change this, then we should just leave him to it.
The way Wendy looked at her husband in the audience before they went on stage spoke volumes.
You're fully alive and fully yourself when you can live by your own rules .. have your lovers and have your friends, but keep them separate from your own goals and dreams.
Notice how the wife holds his hand with an iron fist
I dont think he loves her! It’s a trauma bond, like between a hostage and a kidnapper 😮
people need to stop using that description, the stockholm syndrome. patty hearst, the first "stockholm" victim, the one that robbed the bank with her kidnappers, said that she hates that term, that she always knew she was in danger, always knew her kidnappers were her kidnappers; she only went along because she needed to stay alive, not because she was relating to her kidnappers
Those controllers should ask themselfs what kind a sick version of a partner they like! Cause on thing is for sure: this is not the real person! It’s like you have a lot of money and people are nice too you because of the money! You don’t know who is real and who is fake!!
I love, when people have the freedom of choice and still choose you!!
That would make me feel much better than putting pressure on people to do what I want!! ✌🏻
Gosh I remember this show so clearly. Wonder what happened to these two? 🤔
Well, if someone treats my like that, my affection would be frozen too! ( her comment on the sleeping part)
Wow so mean 😢
. &&&& that wife is stuck in her ways and thats so sad . . . nevertheless ii would love an update on this couple . . . ❤️💯
t.agree with the lady in red saying that he is a very strong man. The problem is that he just doesn't have really good boundaries
I believe the controlling partner trained their controlled partner believe that only they make a good decision! So the controlled partner is afraid to make decisions because the controlling partner will destroy every idea of a decision!!
Brilliant. 👏👏👏👏
She tells him how to breathe. 😮
Amazing now in 2024 I have been married twice and both times it didn’t last. I tried both times to be the best person ever. I would NEVER have spoken to my husband like that…
He chooses to stay.
If this was reversed and a man was treating a woman this way, everyone would be OUTRAGED! This is disgusting behavior. His wife is psychotic!!!
Manipulation is the word, not control
Thank you ❤
This story is mind blowing! This man suffers from Stockholm Syndrome or what?! He makes me feel very uncomfortable, he seams so weak. Not to mention the controlling wife is 100% obnoxious
They should think about what it’s like to being on your own or single parenting
It’s amazing the things we would NOT tolerate from friends/coworkers etc ever, are so readily accepted from a spouse… smh
"As a matter of fact he's ALL CAPS ! " 😂😂
What about getting surprised by your partner?! Instead of controlling anything and anyone✌🏻
Stairs at night: easy fix. Fridge in the bedroom.
Read that she a realtor and he is an agent and works for him
I would hope he has come to his senses by now and left her … anyone know???
I love the lady in Red, she is strong
This is appalling hello gender equality this man is a victim of abuse !calling him a wuss would never be ok nowadays its uncomfortable to watch the victim blaming
Omg calm down😂 they spent a whole episode ripping her apart and letting her know how horrible she was.
@@karahupp4589 I am calm its called an opinion 🤣
I’m a feminist and I agree equality isn’t this
He should not allow her to treat him this way - that's the reason why everyone is confronting him, they want him to stand up for himself and stop the abuse coz she's a lost cause.
I’m sorry i just have to say that this is completely ridiculous… he needs to run away from her fast !!!
A woman being controlled they wouldnt call her a woss ,now men being controlled is serious topic ,even on this dhow doctor phil calling him a wuss,its hard to for a controlled person to get brzve and srand up to the controller,a man on dr.phil in 2023 would bever be czlled weak or wuss
Clapping for her show why
I wish I could get the answer to the question: "Do you want to be right or happy?"
Because that implies to me, give in.
You shouldn't always have to give in to be happy.
Just like you were telling John!
So, I'm confused🤔
I wonder about his mother and his upbtringing
Hello
Saying “ Daddy does it wrong” in front of the kids, is terribly wrong!! It teaches those kids not to respect their Dad/ parental alienation.
also called ABUSE - 😮
My ex wife tried this, that is why she is an ex because I use not wiling to keep putting up with this.😮
Where is John’s mother?
don’t want to come home any more and I didn’t. I hit critical mass!
Cohesive control
He deserves everything he gets
They control their partners because they don't know how to love , period
What a beautiful couple! But they need help psychologically..
lol Dr Phil didn’t like being controlled a couple of times here either.
I can understand the soda part because it’s so bad for you but there’s a way to approach it but he is a wimp lol
It was never about the soda nor the balloons.
She treats him like a child. I’ve not watched the whole thing yet, but I’d guess the husband is very conflict averse. He also may have a very controlling mother. My ex married a woman who leads him around by the nose. It’s sad.
This is great and all but iyanla vanzant would of got to the root cause of why they behave this way. Childhood traumas etc.
If they are happy, who am I to say it's wrong?
Way too many commercials to watch.
What commercials?
I think he's hurting and tramatized that's y he's allowing her to do wateva she wants
I wonder if they're still married
They checked back with them like over a decade ago. They were still married then. A couple with no children. By choice. Apperantley the advice helped them. Curious to know if they're together today too :-)
Maybe he enjoys being controlled
He sounds alot like women who have been abused by their partner. He has lost his sense of self as separate from the wife. I think it probably happened over time.
He can't cope on his own
Dr Phil don’t understand narcissistic abuse
There is no best Oparh.
Let's face it, if the roles were reversed these days and he was doing that to her he wud be labelled as the biggest scum bag on the planet
I want to see what Iyanla Van Zant would say to these 2 people.dear lord!!!
I got no pay off
I think they were far too hard on this young lady. Dr Phil was very harsh.
He should threaten divorce unless she gets help.
He looks like Tom Cruise
Total mental abuse.
When I liked Oprah …….
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Brit here: What's O and 400?
0 as in he's won nothing and 400 how many times she's gotten her way. A score basically
Means she’s won every argument, he’s given in every time
@@Claire-cc7lb Thank you Claire, I get it now! x
30 cases of cola and a lifetime of Diabetes II. Soda is gone from my house. Watch .... The Game Changers. Stop the sugar if you have any sense at all.
They are still married.
Doctor Phil was out of line, there's a way to help the couple without bashing the wives
This lady is married to a child.
Oprah and this audience belittling him is discusting
Smdh 😖🤪🥴
God says it's love to allow someone to dominate you. Ask Christ the King!
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Operah and Phil are revolting human beings!!!
No u
Maybe you don’t get the point because you can’t see past the cringe from a modern day perspective.
Pathetic
Really?
Why are you watching?