Airplane is a Schweizer SGS 2-32 glider that crashed in February 1974. FAA incident report says there were no fatalities, so there's that. Cool explore.
Hiked there with my nephew 40 years ago, when he was a kid. Anytime in SoCal when you can hike more than 3 miles from the roads, then and only then will you stop seeing folks & their pets and their smells and will enjoy the flora & fauna of the woods and hills. It’s a great hike. Just not for the faint of heart.
2/6/74 the pilot James Webb and his passenger Harry Diltiz were on a flight out of Llano, California, in the Schweizer SGS 2-32 N7622. While soaring in high winds near Mount Baden-Powell in the San Gabriel Mountains, they flew into a violent downdraft. It appears that the sailplane was trapped in the canyon and the pilot was attempting a landing in the wash at the bottom when it hit trees on final approach. Both the pilot and his passenger survived with only minor injuries, the sailplane was destroyed in the accident. You're gutsy BTW! That climbing was unbelievable!
Another great explore Jerith! Awesome discoveries and research. You were probably the first person to touch that file since the person using it put it down. Can't wait for your next adventure!
It was a very good day for you to be out exploring Seeing the plain and senary was really nice 👍 And the water with fish in it wow was nice to see See you again Fireman 🔥🔥🔥
Man this imo has been one of yout greatest explores!! Those quartz vein's my goodness were pretty spectacular. Thanks again for the great detective work on these mines😁🤙👊
I looked up the airplane number, here are the stats: Plane was a Schweizer SGS 2-32 crashed February 6, 1974 2 occupants no fatalities aircraft damaged beyond repair, Written off Llano, CA Center wheel SGL fixed landing gear Not sure if this was a misprint but it says Wind Gusting 60K?? Pretty cool Video!
That was a Sail Plane that hit a downdraft and got stuck below the mountains and tried for a landing in the gulch on 2/6/74. Both pilot and passenger survived with minimal injuries. You can research the Sail Plane ID.
That was awesome bro I use to do crazy stuff at your age also that steal pice looks like a horseshoe maker for a black smith and that was forged for sure !! Great finds😎🇺🇸👍🏻🦅
The Schweizer SGS 2-32 is an American two-seat, mid-wing, two or three-place glider built by Schweizer Aircraft of Elmira, New York. This particular plane crashed on 2-6-1974 and it had (2) passengers and both survived
When you were walking on the wooden trestle bridge out of San Diego and everyone was all worried about you crossing over the catwalk but that is a piece of cake compared to the trail the trail that leads to the " tunnel mine " . I would walk the catwalk on the tristle bridge any day but I don't like the slippery sand and stones on that trail .
I’m a younger newer prospector in the heart of Oregon. They say all the easy gold has been found. Or is on private property unknown about! Well, this summer I have plans to trek through this states deep wilderness to find new grounds :)
17:35 was that some sort of marker ? I'm surprised you knocked that over after being so careful to leave things as you found them earlier. Another marker on the right at 18:45.
It's a "trail marker" or cairn put up by no sense hikers. They aren't needed as there is no way to get lost in these gulches. Now, if it was a claim marker or Native cairn and you could tell its old I'd never mess with it
A question just popped in my head.. Have you ever hiked so far, like for instance, in this video. ( It looks like you were out all day). That you just said... I'll just camp here and hike out in the morning ? Just wondering . Keep these great videos coming. Be safe. Peace ✌️.
great videos,,would youdo a video ,that shows how not to get lost out there,,you make it look so easy,,for me its not easy i cant understand how not to get lost out in the moutains, and you even can travel in the darkk,, i hope you will do a video on this
It's crazy how rugged the San Gabriel's are...I've hiked and or mtn biked a huge number of the trails in the whole range (and cayoneered some of the narrow canyons with roping down waterfalls etc) - and despite being so close to one of the biggest megacities on earth, it can feel super remote. As a 55y/o former adventure sport guy, I'm going to respectfully make a couple of recommendations...First, I've had this thought watching your videos before - you'd really get better stability from a pair of collapsible hiking poles than a wooden walking stick - and when you're up on a cliff, collapse them and keep your hands free - a stick can break, or slide out & you may need your hands free. I fell only 20' and ended up needing a helicopter ride to a trauma center, trust me, you don't want that. Do you have a satellite message device like a Spot? If not, consider getting one for your solo explorations - even a simple broken ankle could become life or death if nobody knows where you are. That tunnel (which is what I think it was, there didn't appear to be any vein in there) was really wild! I guess when they built that trail, they thought it was easier to cut through than to try and carve out - a lot of work to go 10'! Riveted pipe could be for another Pelton wheel or just supplying water to a mine. Given how steep that final side canyon with the mine you pointed to near the end, it seems like all the rail and that tank could have just fallen from the mine & been washed down into the main drainage from that side canyon.
Cool videos love the way you have respect for the artifacts etc. And love your thoughts and opinions you sound like a great person. But I gotta be honest you are crazy at times too. And that's not a compliment! I don't wanna see anyone get hurt, but I totally get the part about adventure.
I have tried to find the adit for the Native Son mine over to the East a couple miles from miner’s gulch…it is so overgrown over there I couldn’t find it…if you ever go that way let me know…
23:37, this stuff is why I recommend trekking poles, and some Lowa mid GTX Renegade hiking boots. You can get anywhere safely with them. Also, sometimes instead of doing such a sketchy old hillside trail, you can go up the ravine in the center of the hills and crossover to the holes. 27:10, your slip scared me also, lol.
If you haven't read it already, which I suspect you have; read “Trails of the Angeles: 100 Hikes in the San Gabriels,” by John W. Robinson. He wrote a bunch of Southern California hiking guides
Those little stacks of rock are offerings to the spirits who watch over the trail. When you pass one on a trail you add a rock for luck. Kicking them over is bad juju.
Believe it or not, the 2 occupants of N7622 survived the crash, which occurred in February 1974 on approach to the local airstrip in Llano during very heavy winds.
Thanks for knocking down that cairn. Bad as graffiti. Notice you also never scavenge. I bet you take the shopping cart back where it belongs and bus your own table in coffee shops. The world would collapse without people like you.
The horseshoe thing you found in the gulch is a boot puller, you place one foot on that bar and the heal of your boot in the horseshoe end and off she comes, no bending over
@@WesternMineDetective can you go down there Friday morning the one you went to where you walked on the ledge? If you watch my video I put a link in your comments at 6 minutes 12 seconds in you will see I was on that Ledge the same Ledge you were on and I took it much further and I found a way around it but ran out of time
@@PHARRAOH Oh man I just watched it what are the chances! I can't believe we both went on the same trail pretty much days apart. I can't do Friday I have an appointment at 0830. I've got Saturday all day off
@@WesternMineDetective let's go up early Saturday morning. I I'm coming from North Orange County so unless you want to carpool Saturday morning, I'm not sure where you're coming from, but unless you want to carpool I'm going to head up Friday night I have a night hike down to the bottom and camp at the base and wait for you
Did a lot of that in the past too. Long before any way to record it. Be Careful !!! Only you know your limitations an abilities so don't exceade !!! Rock is much harder than bone !!!
Love your videos. Me thinks you are a damn fool for going so close to the edge on way to the other mine however. There is adventure in dying they say, but I prefere to put if off a spell 😉
Just so you know we're in the twenty-first century and when you say this is from the 1800's and then turn around and say this was built in 1890 you're contradicting yourself
The purple glass didn't have any color initially. For some reason they used lead in the manufacturing process of the glass which causes it to turn a lavender color when exposed to sunlight for a long time. An unbroken leaded glass bottle is surprisingly valuable.
@@WesternMineDetective Cool. I guess that’s completely benign compared with lead. My 104 year grandmother-in-law gave us a bottle with an eagle molded into it and some names and legal warnings about what not to do with the bottle. It was colorless before we put it in the window with a few others and then it gradually turned a light shade of lavender. The pieces that you showed us must have been there in direct sunlight for almost two centuries. That darker purple is awesome. I’d love to make a cabochon out of a piece of that, it would look like a huge ruby. My grandmother-in-law told me it was turning purple because they use to use “leaded” glass back in her day so this is literally an old wives tale that I can dispense with. 🥳Thanks!
Airplane is a Schweizer SGS 2-32 glider that crashed in February 1974. FAA incident report says there were no fatalities, so there's that. Cool explore.
Sorry, didn't see your post, great minds think alike!
@@kearnsey64 :-)
Thanks for the information. I was wondering if there were survivors.
Yeah I looked it up too. Plane got caught in a huge downdraft. It amazing pilot and passenger survived. Thank you
thank you
Hiked there with my nephew 40 years ago, when he was a kid. Anytime in SoCal when you can hike more than 3 miles from the roads, then and only then will you stop seeing folks & their pets and their smells and will enjoy the flora & fauna of the woods and hills. It’s a great hike. Just not for the faint of heart.
The efforts you go to, to show us the most remotest of mines.. Outstanding.
Brother, this one absolutely shriveled my sack to watch. Holy smokes!
That's a beautiful trail. The views are awesome. Pretty cool seeing the remains of the plane
2/6/74 the pilot James Webb and his passenger Harry Diltiz were on a flight out of Llano, California, in the Schweizer SGS 2-32 N7622. While soaring in high winds near Mount Baden-Powell in the San Gabriel Mountains, they flew into a violent downdraft. It appears that the sailplane was trapped in the canyon and the pilot was attempting a landing in the wash at the bottom when it hit trees on final approach. Both the pilot and his passenger survived with only minor injuries, the sailplane was destroyed in the accident. You're gutsy BTW! That climbing was unbelievable!
Another great explore Jerith! Awesome discoveries and research. You were probably the first person to touch that file since the person using it put it down. Can't wait for your next adventure!
It was a very good day for you to be out exploring Seeing the plain and senary was really nice 👍 And the water with fish in it wow was nice to see See you again
Fireman 🔥🔥🔥
This was a nice trip. Little bit risky in a part of it, but nice. Thanks from sweden.
Awesome trail and views!
Man this imo has been one of yout greatest explores!! Those quartz vein's my goodness were pretty spectacular. Thanks again for the great detective work on these mines😁🤙👊
Half man half mountain goat! another great video!
AWESOME hike! Thank you for sharing the adventure.
Beautiful scenery.
Great video.
Fun stuff.
Thanks!
👍👍👍👊😎
Extra trivia -- the crashed glider was flown by singer/songwriter/composer Jimmy Webb with passenger Henry Diltz.
I believe that taking risks is the spice of life. Just make sure the risk is worth the reward. Great job!
Love that cabin! This is a very interesting video. The plane is really cool. Well done!
I looked up the airplane number, here are the stats:
Plane was a Schweizer SGS 2-32
crashed February 6, 1974
2 occupants no fatalities
aircraft damaged beyond repair, Written off
Llano, CA
Center wheel SGL fixed landing gear
Not sure if this was a misprint but it says Wind Gusting 60K??
Pretty cool Video!
60 knots. That's brutal for any plane let alone a small sailplane.
That was a Sail Plane that hit a downdraft and got stuck below the mountains and tried for a landing in the gulch on 2/6/74. Both pilot and passenger survived with minimal injuries. You can research the Sail Plane ID.
Loved it. Great sense of adventure. Thank you.
That was awesome bro I use to do crazy stuff at your age also that steal pice looks like a horseshoe maker for a black smith and that was forged for sure !! Great finds😎🇺🇸👍🏻🦅
Another good explore, thanks.
Great hike! I really liked the tunnel on the sketchy old trail!
a most excellent video i enjoyed whole way with you.i like your videos
Thanks for this awesome hiking.
The Schweizer SGS 2-32 is an American two-seat, mid-wing, two or three-place glider built by Schweizer Aircraft of Elmira, New York. This particular plane crashed on 2-6-1974 and it had (2) passengers and both survived
Thanks for the info on the plane. How do you look this sort of stuff up? What website do you use?
When you were walking on the wooden trestle bridge out of San Diego and everyone was all worried about you crossing over the catwalk but that is a piece of cake compared to the trail the trail that leads to the " tunnel mine " . I would walk the catwalk on the tristle bridge any day but I don't like the slippery sand and stones on that trail .
love vincents cabin, pretty well preserved in comparison to the bighorn mine
Im nosy too. Fun way to explore. Thanks.
That was cool bro...cant believe i hadnt subscribed to ya yet...but definitely now. Thank you
Please leave your still photos a little bit longer, trying to identify some of the relics,only have a phone,long time follower,love your vids!
Another great video. Loved all the vanes exposed too.
Been waiting for a couple of days for this video. I know it will be a great hike and video for sure
Nice.👍
We are playing catch up I'm so blessed that TH-cam recommended your Channel awesome awesome stuff
I’m a younger newer prospector in the heart of Oregon. They say all the easy gold has been found. Or is on private property unknown about! Well, this summer I have plans to trek through this states deep wilderness to find new grounds :)
that u piece thing is actually early form of the flux capacitor... excellent find!!!
If you make it to old age, you sure will have some great stories to tell. 🌲
I'm there now! Yes, lots of stories.
17:35 was that some sort of marker ? I'm surprised you knocked that over after being so careful to leave things as you found them earlier. Another marker on the right at 18:45.
It's a "trail marker" or cairn put up by no sense hikers. They aren't needed as there is no way to get lost in these gulches. Now, if it was a claim marker or Native cairn and you could tell its old I'd never mess with it
If a person became disoriented by dehydration or injury, yes they could get lost. Absolutely no reason to knock it over.
Great video. Thank you
Miss the days when I was as sure footed.
Me too. The human spine is a delicate thing!
Very Interesting!
That Nicholson file was spot on
A question just popped in my head.. Have you ever hiked so far, like for instance, in this video. ( It looks like you were out all day). That you just said... I'll just camp here and hike out in the morning ? Just wondering . Keep these great videos coming. Be safe. Peace ✌️.
I actually have a few times. But I planned it out that way. I've done a few 15 mile hikes to the same spot and spent the night at the hut nearby.
great videos,,would youdo a video ,that shows how not to get lost out there,,you make it look so easy,,for me its not easy i cant understand how not to get lost out in the moutains, and you even can travel in the darkk,, i hope you will do a video on this
It's crazy how rugged the San Gabriel's are...I've hiked and or mtn biked a huge number of the trails in the whole range (and cayoneered some of the narrow canyons with roping down waterfalls etc) - and despite being so close to one of the biggest megacities on earth, it can feel super remote. As a 55y/o former adventure sport guy, I'm going to respectfully make a couple of recommendations...First, I've had this thought watching your videos before - you'd really get better stability from a pair of collapsible hiking poles than a wooden walking stick - and when you're up on a cliff, collapse them and keep your hands free - a stick can break, or slide out & you may need your hands free. I fell only 20' and ended up needing a helicopter ride to a trauma center, trust me, you don't want that. Do you have a satellite message device like a Spot? If not, consider getting one for your solo explorations - even a simple broken ankle could become life or death if nobody knows where you are.
That tunnel (which is what I think it was, there didn't appear to be any vein in there) was really wild! I guess when they built that trail, they thought it was easier to cut through than to try and carve out - a lot of work to go 10'! Riveted pipe could be for another Pelton wheel or just supplying water to a mine. Given how steep that final side canyon with the mine you pointed to near the end, it seems like all the rail and that tank could have just fallen from the mine & been washed down into the main drainage from that side canyon.
Cool videos love the way you have respect for the artifacts etc. And love your thoughts and opinions you sound like a great person. But I gotta be honest you are crazy at times too. And that's not a compliment! I don't wanna see anyone get hurt, but I totally get the part about adventure.
Nice window and fireplace
I have tried to find the adit for the Native Son mine over to the East a couple miles from miner’s gulch…it is so overgrown over there I couldn’t find it…if you ever go that way let me know…
Very nice...thanks.
That piece of steel with a u shap on one end? Looks like the foot pedal to a winch brake drum.
My husband thinks the mystery tool is called a pickle fork. It is used to spread a vein to break off the rock.
Is this out in the Sierra Nevadas on the NV side?
Super cool!
I love hiking and exploring....how do you find places like this?
I always trip out on where a lot of mines where they’re located. It’s almost as if they say dude let’s dig a hole up on this sketchy mountain!
Nice hike!
Thank you! It was quite the beautiful day to be out there. Just a bit hot when in the middle of the gulch no shade at all
you must be half billy goat, getting along that cliff side
I'm sad u kicked the rocks over lol
That rubber and wire thing is most likely a piece of flex hose for exhaust or ventilation...............Erik
23:37, this stuff is why I recommend trekking poles, and some Lowa mid GTX Renegade hiking boots. You can get anywhere safely with them. Also, sometimes instead of doing such a sketchy old hillside trail, you can go up the ravine in the center of the hills and crossover to the holes. 27:10, your slip scared me also, lol.
Very old aqua glass . 1890- 1915
27:10 You are fing crazy, sounds like you almost took a dive right there.
I assume baden-powell point is named after lord baden- powell scouting founder? What was the connection to that area? Do you know?
Yes I googled it didn't know there was a mountain named after him cool, surprised me because he is a brit like me
Hey man what watch is that? That thing is awesome 😎
Hey man! It's a Garmin Instinct, thing is sweet. Still using it to this day. They also got a solar version for a bit more.
@@WesternMineDetective Thanks my guy I appreciate it, keep up the vids man 👍 good shit
37:00, yes hand forged, that's why all the "pock marks" are in the metal.
I was use a drone for the area's that seem impassable. Thanks.
Wonder if the pipe went to some sort of water
Great if u reassembled the lovely bottles and left them in the cabin or take them home,
That was a glider. 1974 pilot and passenger survived.
Omg that path to the mine...yikes
I’m just guessing but that looks like some kind of pipe or valve wrench
Water gate seen one used on a dam 36:59
Do you carry a satellite phone with you on your hikes?
If you haven't read it already, which I suspect you have; read “Trails of the Angeles: 100 Hikes in the San Gabriels,” by John W. Robinson. He wrote a bunch of Southern California hiking guides
Great video i just started subscribing you great job.
Cool video but kicking over the stacked rocks was unnecessary. Wasn't hurting anything.
Those little stacks of rock are offerings to the spirits who watch over the trail. When you pass one on a trail you add a rock for luck. Kicking them over is bad juju.
Believe it or not, the 2 occupants of N7622 survived the crash, which occurred in February 1974 on approach to the local airstrip in Llano during very heavy winds.
Done sharing kuyaa BP
Wait.. Big Horn Mine.. ahhh, where’s little horn?
Very cool, but someone/some authority should clean up that glass/litter.
Thanks for knocking down that cairn. Bad as graffiti. Notice you also never scavenge. I bet you take the shopping cart back where it belongs and bus your own table in coffee shops. The world would collapse without people like you.
why knock over carin?
The horseshoe thing you found in the gulch is a boot puller, you place one foot on that bar and the heal of your boot in the horseshoe end and off she comes, no bending over
So what do you say? Would you like to join me and return? I know a way in, let me know as soon as possible.
For the Red White and Blue? Or another one. I'd definitely be interested. I have pretty much every weekend off
@@WesternMineDetective can you go down there Friday morning the one you went to where you walked on the ledge? If you watch my video I put a link in your comments at 6 minutes 12 seconds in you will see I was on that Ledge the same Ledge you were on and I took it much further and I found a way around it but ran out of time
@@PHARRAOH Oh man I just watched it what are the chances! I can't believe we both went on the same trail pretty much days apart. I can't do Friday I have an appointment at 0830. I've got Saturday all day off
@@WesternMineDetective let's go up early Saturday morning. I I'm coming from North Orange County so unless you want to carpool Saturday morning, I'm not sure where you're coming from, but unless you want to carpool I'm going to head up Friday night I have a night hike down to the bottom and camp at the base and wait for you
Did you meet each other? 😊
Did a lot of that in the past too.
Long before any way to record it.
Be Careful !!!
Only you know your limitations an abilities so don't exceade !!!
Rock is much harder than bone !!!
Love your videos.
Me thinks you are a damn fool for going so close to the edge on way to the other mine however. There is adventure in dying they say, but I prefere to put if off a spell 😉
That's a glider that crashed. Fatalities are 0/2, winds were gusting to 60 kts
Be cool to metal detect to see what all cool stuff you can find
Just so you know we're in the twenty-first century and when you say this is from the 1800's and then turn around and say this was built in 1890 you're contradicting yourself
The purple glass didn't have any color initially. For some reason they used lead in the manufacturing process of the glass which causes it to turn a lavender color when exposed to sunlight for a long time. An unbroken leaded glass bottle is surprisingly valuable.
It's actually manganese oxide that they used in clear glass circa 1870-1930s that turned it a lavender purple color.
@@WesternMineDetective Cool. I guess that’s completely benign compared with lead.
My 104 year grandmother-in-law gave us a bottle with an eagle molded into it and some names and legal warnings about what not to do with the bottle. It was colorless before we put it in the window with a few others and then it gradually turned a light shade of lavender.
The pieces that you showed us must have been there in direct sunlight for almost two centuries. That darker purple is awesome. I’d love to make a cabochon out of a piece of that, it would look like a huge ruby.
My grandmother-in-law told me it was turning purple because they use to use “leaded” glass back in her day so this is literally an old wives tale that I can dispense with. 🥳Thanks!
27:10 I bet you pooped your pants. Thanks for the adventure. Regards from Ody Slim
I most certainly did! Hope you enjoyed this one Ody Slim.
Since there is nopower for the mines up there then the pipe most likely ran a generator for a mine.
Hello from Denmark
27:06 Don't do that.
I live above a mile high
30:31 to the left of your walking stick looks like you walked right past some gold
It was a Glider not a plane ,
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