@@thedragon2299 biggest giveaway was 1. No loss of power 2. No overheat 3. No oil in rad 4. Milky oil sight 5. Caught it in first 15-20kms probably as the machine was running fine 6. Centre freeze plug had a pin hole leak the size of literally - couple of sugar grains. Thanks again for identifying this through this video. Saved us a ton of work and extra hassle
@@80SeriesPakistan wow, sounds like you got lucky there. Glad I could help, that's the whole reason I ever started these videos was to help people, I know I use TH-cam myself to look up stuff, just returning the good karma!
Glad it helped.. You will be luck if it's the center freeze plug, because you don't have to remove cams to get to it, but if it's one of the others it's a different story.
How do i clean the sticky oil/coolant from the engine? Fixed the plug but now there's all this milky sludge stuck to everything inside. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, that's somewhat of an issue. On most occasions it's not that bad and just drains the same as oil, but I have see other people's pictures that it kinda formed like grease and stuck to every thing. Like thick butter almost. In extreme cases like that the motor should be pulled, cleaned and properly checked. There really isn't a fail safe way otherwise. Most likely some damage has already occurred in that situation. So even running it anymore will only cause more damage. Oil has to flow freely through the passages, bearing and journals under a specific amount of pressure. Engines are built with very specific tolerances and that oil is supposed to flow in those tight tolerances, no way that sludge is flowing between the bearings as it should, so even starting it to flush it is causing even more damage. If you are willing to except damage and possibly catastrophic failure, then you could try some fresh oil and something like marvel mystery oil into the oil, run it for 30 seconds or less, flush, new filter and repeat that process until it is all cleared up. Could take 5 times could take 20. You will have to determine what's best in your situation, either way you definitely have an unfortunate situation on your hands. Hope it works out for the best. Thanks 🐲
@thedragon2299 thank you so much for your response! yeah I feel like a idiot for putting that much in and not realizing where it was going. My buddy was like man I don't think it's supposed to take more than a gallon, while im pouring in jug after jug lol ugh what a mistake. I'm assuming adding the 2 gallons of water and water wetter plus a half jug of coolant didn't help. Its weird because the coolant separated and poured out but the milkshake poured out but left residue everywhere. I used to work on vehicles all the time. I let my bike sit for 7 years and finally got back to it, and i did this smh. I'm assuming the bearings are probably gone but figured it was worth a shot to try to flush it out. I have blown and wet vacuumed a majority of it out of top of head but I can see it in the case and it has the consistency of I'd say wet grease. Thanks again, guess I'm going to try flushing it with mystery oil. Would you use something like rotella t6 or regular oil or the motorcycle oil to flush with?
@smithscreeklawncarel.l.c.7604 off the record, if it were me I would buy the cheapest 15w-40 at auto zone, put at least 1/2 quart of marvel mystery oil, the rest 15w-40 and flush like that. The first cycle only let it run for 30 seconds or less, then flush it. Maybe you can run each one a little longer after that. Then when all is said and done run t6 from there out.
oh damn. I changed the oil of my freshly bought used MT07 with 20.000km/2018 model. It was cappuccino coloured and now I am scared that I have to tear apart the engine =/
Hopefully it's just a water pump seal or something like that so you don't have to tear into the engine. Just don't run it like that until you fix it. Let us know what you find out. Good luck 🐲
I bought an 07 gsxr 600 without a rad oil cooler, they told me it needed a new water pump, so I just went and bought all three things, the coolant and oil were mixed in the water pump, I'm wondering before putting everything back together should I just open her up and check the freeze plugs to be safe before putting everything on and running with new coolant and oil ? Thanks in advance, love the videos!
It wouldn't hurt to take a look at them, couple of them are hard to see under the cams, but you can see them. I've had a couple people on here tell me that their freeze plugs just rusted right through. So there is usually alot more to the story someone tells us. So I'm not sure by your comment if it didn't have a radiator or oil cooler, or just didn't have the oil cooler. But from your story, it sounds like maybe the water pump failed and it was over heating maybe. So with these waterpumps the oil can't mix with coolant, but if it overheated it could have blown a head gasket. What I'm getting at is there are only a few things that can cause the oil and coolant. These things are, freeze plug malfunction, blown head gasket, cracked head, cracked block, or oil cooler failure. On a rare occasion the waterpump shaft goes bad and allows coolant and oil to mix, but it's rare, but at that time it would also have leaked a ton out of the weep hole on bottom of pump first, and was ignored. Hope all this info helps you some. Feel free to hit me back up when you do some more diagnostics.
This was a customer's bike I repaired over 2 years ago, so I don't have it to make any videos of. Just simply place your air nozzle into one of the coolant tube, place your thumb or something over the opposite coolant tube, and observe if there is any air coming from the oil passage, if no air comes from oil passage, then it's fine. It's just that simple. But they are hardly ever the problem. The usual suspect are the freeze plugs.
Hey brother I have the same bike and same problem the guy I bought the bike from only had water in the coolant and it froze. Turns out 2 freeze plugs popped out. I tapped them back in and did 2 flushes but I’m still seeing very very milky oil on both flushes. Still haven’t seen any change in the oil. Any advice would help thanks!
Sounds like there is still a problem somewhere. Unfortunately when it froze it could have cracked the head or block, something like that. Skip to the chase and get one of those coolant system pressure testers to see where your leak is. Autozone used to have the loaner tool program, not sure if you have somewhere like that near you, but they have kits you hook on your radiator and hand pump pressure into your system to find the leak. It may be internal and hard to find, but it might point you in the right direction. Also possibility one of your freeze plugs popped back out under pressure. The milky oil should have gotten less and less each flush, but it does usually take many flushes to get rid of all traces of slime, but as I mentioned you should see less and less oil each time. It definitely won't be gone in 2 flushes, the slime sticks to everything inside the engine and takes awhile to be flushed, so check that again too. Good luck with it, sorry to hear about this problem.
@@thedragon2299 okay brother so 6 days later after some flushes the oil looks a lot better but there still is the smallest amount of coolant that’s leaking in the oil. I drained the oil completely and filled the coolant up and no water was dripping out the oil pan. But when the bike is full of oil and is turned on it starts to leak into the oil but not a lot. any direction u can steer me in? Also another thing I’ve noticed is the coolant is only mixing in the oil. When I flush the coolant it looks completely normal. Also i just went and took it for the smallest ride up the road and the motor just bogged out. Maybe a head gasket? Alsooo the bike over heats after sitting in idle for a while
Year ago I had small amount of something white in my oil ( got it since brand new, change oil at 5800km ) and few days ago (8300km) finally changed coolant fluid for the first time and noticed that something is not right. Coolant was dirty and once again something white in reservoir and under radiator cap. Am in troubles or it can be coincidence - short trips / two mixed coolants?
@@thedragon2299 Triumph Street Triple 765R 2020. Break in period was slow proces - I didn't rush and had oil chance around 1k km + had to add coolant fluid, because many Triumphs are missing from factory, then ~4.5 once again oil change. Later ran our of warranty, went for dyno tune & custom map and changed the oil once again. Now 8300km and for the first time ever changed coolant fluid in my garage and noticed not the best quality of coolant... Motorcycle used mostly around the town or to work in last season.
@Street765R This does sound slightly concerning, check your oil to see if it's looking milky now. One way is to pull off your oil filler cap and insert a long zip tie down in your crankcase(as a dipstick), pull it out and see if it looks milky. If the coolant and oil are mixing, it could be for many reasons, but you definitely need to determine if you have a problem. You most definitely don't want coolant circulating around your bearings, it will cause catastrophic engine failure. If you are uncertain, it's best to get it to a shop. I rather find out its nothing and pay a fee for no reason, then to find out the hard way that something went wrong. It's never good when coolant and oil mix.
How many times did you have to flush it before you weren’t seeing any more left over coolant mixed in with the oil? I’m on my third flush and still seeing diluted oil - I swapped out the oil cooler that was bad on mine. But still not convinced it’s not a bad head gasket
Usually 3 times. You should see a big difference each time. Some are worse than others though, I've heard of others who had to take the engines apart and scrape of the sludge because it wouldn't flush out. Take of the clutch cover or something like that so you can look inside to see how bad it is. You could still have a problem where the coolant is still mixing with oil, or it will look like milky grease inside the engine. Good look with it.🐲
Hello, I bought my bike it had a cracked motor and stator cover, no air box and leaking radiator, (still had some antifreeze in it) it was sitting in negative temperatures since October 2021, as soon as I drained the oil it was milky, it wasn't antifreeze it was oil mixed with water. People advised me it was moisture and to replace everything and let it run until temp reached 220, for at least 20 mins a day.. (after everything replaced) so far i have been letting it run these 5 days on the stand for almost 30 minutes and oil so far looks good. Should I replace the water pump gaskets just in case ? Another person told me that could be an issue, when i looked at the water pump from the outside (removed cover) it looked normal, (no milky mixture) .Any advice would be helpful, Thanks
If there isn't any coolant leaking from under the water pump then don't worry about it. Same with oil, if it still looks good after running it that much, then everything should be fine. Change the oil one more time, and go enjoy riding your bike. Just keep an eye on oil from time to time to make sure it's still good.
I’m dealing with the same issue right now and trying to figure out where I should dig in first. Bikes a 2006 GSXR 600. I switched over to water wetter during the season and forgot to change back. I’m thinking it could be the freeze plugs. I took it for a ride one day , it overheated and blew milky oil mix all over the plastics and rear tire. I had the bike towed home and now gonna start to take a look at it. I’m hoping it’s not the head gasket. Where would you suggest I start? I was thinking of doing a compression test and a leak down test. And like you said I’ve heard it can also be the oil cooler , or water pump seal or freeze plugs. could you give me a write up on how to access the freeze plugs. I know the tank , air box , and a few other things have to come off. Do you have to mess with the cam chain tensor at all? Any help is much appreciated.
Hey sorry, I never saw a notification about your comment and just saw it when someone else asked a question. I hope it all worked out for you, and again sorry I just now saw this.
Hello how are you? I have a 2001 GSX-R 600 it's over heating, I change the thermostat and the radiator sensor for the fan and It's still heating up. What could be the problem?
Any idea how the freeze plug came out? In other words, can or will they come out for other reasons than freezing? Because my bike has the same issue rn, but it doesn't freeze where I live... thanks on advance if you're are able to reply
It's a common problem with them, they have been know to pop out for no apparent reason according to some other people's experiences. If the bike gets hot they will sometimes blow out. Another guy said previous owner only ran mostly water in the bike and it rusted his straight through. Hey be sure to check out my Facebook page too for some awesome motorcycle content facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057489818717&mibextid=ZbWKwL
Mine had the same symptoms but didn't pop out. It rusted a tiny hole and i haad no clue. I was dumb and kept adding coolant because I thought it was low or leaking but couldn't find any leaks. It turns out it sucked 2 gallons of coolant/water😢 until it started smoking. Started the tear down thinking head gasket but nope rusted hole...
It will start, but you shouldn't run it with milky oil. You must find the problem and fix it. Do not run it with milky oil, you will have bearing failure leading to catastrophic failure of the engine.
How can you tell if you have bearing failure? I had ran my bike, overfilled my bike shut off on me, definitely rode it with overfilled oil, what all damage could I’ve done?
You can tell if you have bearing failure due to excessive noise. If you overfilled with oil and ran it, it would usually blow out gaskets and seals, may push oil into combustion chamber. In rare occasions it could do engine damage depending on how much oil you put in there. If oil level is over full due to coolant or gas getting into the crank case, then you could have bearing problems.
friend I have that same problem in my GSXR 750 Suzuki I don't know what it really is if it could be the seals in the water pump or if the problem comes from the plugs that are in the cylinder head I want you to tell me more as soon as you see my message or except for the problem I have that same motorcycle it has a lot standing there it mixes the water with the oil but it does not always do it and the temperature takes time to drop with the fan on until 210 which it must turn off
What year is it,? if it's 2007 it can't be the water pump seal because of the way its made. It could be the freeze plug or head gasket, something like that.
@@cesarfcomarte2335 so it's not the waterpump seal then. The way I understand it is that they designed so that can't happen, so most likely it's something else, like freeze plug, oil cooler, cracked engine block, cracked head or bad head gasket. Whatever you do, don't run it until you find out, because coolant is bad for your bearings.
Hi there, I am experiencing a similar problem on my 1999 Suzuki Hayabusa gsx 1300r. there is milky oil in the oil pan and the level of coolant from the radiator has droped down a little bit. how can i test the oil cooler to rule it out or how can i tell that the leak is coming from the water pump? seeing that its not a lot of water mixing with oil at a single time
First off, do not run the engine with any amount of coolant in the oil, it will ruin the bearings. I'm not positive about the water pump on gsxr 1300, but most water pumps back then had a seal in them that went bad and mixed oil and coolant, around 2005 they changed the design and could no longer mix when seal went out. No way to really test it, but if you remove it, you can usually see where it leaked. As far as testing oil cooler, I just remove it from the bike, and use air hose to spray air in the coolant inlet nipple to make sure it doesn't come out the oil hole, if that makes sense. It's kind of a crude way to test, but good enough to tell ya what you need to know. Hope this helps you, again I'm not certain on the 99 busa, but most likely it has the older design water pump, maybe you can confirm that by aliitle more research it.
It could be a number of things that can cause it. If milky oil is in the radiator, it's most likely in the engine as well, try not to run it until you figure it out, because it will destroy the engine if you run it too much. If your bike is 2007 or newer, it most likely isn't the water pump, but it could be freeze plug popped out like this one did, it can be a bad oil cooler, it can be a bad head gasket. Worst case it could be a cracked engine block, but I doubt it. You can do a compression check on all the cylinders to see if it's a head gasket, you can take off the oil cooler and blow air in the oil holes to see if it comes out of the coolant passages to see if it's bad.
Hello, I'm having similar problems. I did everything you did, checked the water pump, and oil cooler and they are fine. I removed the valve cover and saw that one freezer plug had came out. Could you reuse the plug? If so, what kind of adhesive do you use to put the plug back in?
They make something called permatex form a gasket #1 especially for freeze plugs, but there is a debate about using it or nothing at all. I believe its smart to use a little coating on it, but first clean the freeze plug and the hole real good with a scuff or scotch brite pad. Just use a small socket that fits inside the freeze plug and tap it back in, just a little past flush. Good trick is put the freeze plug in the freezer overnight and before it warms back up install it and it will go in much easier.
Coolant can get into the oil if a freeze plug has popped out, like this one in This Video can be put back in without removing the cams, but the other 2 freeze plugs are under the cams and the cams have to be removed in order to reinstall freeze plugs. Coolant can also get in the oil if the head gasket is bad and you have to remove the head to replace it. Coolant can get into the oil if the head has a crack in it, you can rent a coolant pressure test kit at auto zone and test your system, if it has a leak you can hear air where the leak is. Also if yours has it, the oil cooler can go bad and the coolant can mix with oil. On an 04 coolant may be able to get in if the waterpump seal is bad, but research that, I know on the 2005-2007 like this one, the waterpump seal does not cause oil and coolant to mix. First you have to determine for yourself where your problem is.
@@infernojoe7554 Damn, sorry to hear that, first time I every heard of that. Owner must have been using water instead of antifreeze. Well at least it's fixed.
Could you please explain how to test the oil cooler on a GSXR 600 ? There’s not really any videos on how to test and not much detailed info on the GSXR forums.
All I did was blocked one end of where the coolant goes in and then with some low air pressure, sqeezed some air in the other end using an air blower nozzle, just to see if it came out of the oil holes. Hope that makes sense to you, nothing scientific, just any way to make sure the oil isn't mixing with the water. The majority of the time it's the freeze plugs. Some people find that the freeze plugs are completely rusted away from previous owners using water instead of coolant.
Let it drain and drip for days, then I just kept changing new oil and marvel mystery oil, run it a few minutes, then change again, several times until it looked good, then customer did very frequent oil changes after he got the bike back. All is well.
Have you figured out which problem you have yet. Alot of people have this problem and it ends up being the freeze plugs inside the motor under the cams.
Not yet actually my bike was still on the shop for a week already if they still didn't finish it in 3 days i will definitely do it my with myself any how did you fix that loose freeze plugs? I think i have that same issues with yours
@@gregoriogrueso6688 well I got real lucky and it was only that one you saw in the video, I just cleaned it up real good put some sealant on it and tapped it right back in, but there a few more freeze plugs under the cams, if its one of those, then you have to pull the cams out to fix them.
I see now the issues i got a 3 holes in it in freeze plugs my problem was i don't have a spare freeze plugs.. do you think that metal sealant will do the job for the mean time?
@@gregoriogrueso6688 If your freeze plugs are missing, that means they are down inside the motor somewhere. If you keep running the engine, the metal freeze plug could destroy the engine. I don't believe any sealant will work, you need to get the freeze plugs back in there. I'm not sure if you can even buy them, you might either have to get them used out of another used bike **But if they popped out inside you engine, you HAVE TO FIND THEM BEFORE THEY LOCK UP YOUR ENGINE.
My friend, you are a genius. L3 gsxr 600 had some problem with a pin hole leak. Checked water pump, oil cooler and on compression the plug leaked
It's crazy how many people have told me they found the same problem!
@@thedragon2299 biggest giveaway was
1. No loss of power
2. No overheat
3. No oil in rad
4. Milky oil sight
5. Caught it in first 15-20kms probably as the machine was running fine
6. Centre freeze plug had a pin hole leak the size of literally - couple of sugar grains.
Thanks again for identifying this through this video. Saved us a ton of work and extra hassle
@@80SeriesPakistan wow, sounds like you got lucky there. Glad I could help, that's the whole reason I ever started these videos was to help people, I know I use TH-cam myself to look up stuff, just returning the good karma!
Yup, milky oil is always antifreeze leaking into the oil. Excellent bug chasing by you. Well done.
@mw6563 thanks, first time I came across this on one of these, but judging by all the comments it occurs more than I thought. Thanks for watching 🐲
this video is a godsent I watched it ND got the same problem🤞❤️.. thank you
Glad it helped.. You will be luck if it's the center freeze plug, because you don't have to remove cams to get to it, but if it's one of the others it's a different story.
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Nice job. I just got one from eBay it has a milke oil in it I hope is just the water pump
THANK YOU!
Hope it helped you! Thanks for watching 🐲
How do i clean the sticky oil/coolant from the engine? Fixed the plug but now there's all this milky sludge stuck to everything inside. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, that's somewhat of an issue. On most occasions it's not that bad and just drains the same as oil, but I have see other people's pictures that it kinda formed like grease and stuck to every thing. Like thick butter almost. In extreme cases like that the motor should be pulled, cleaned and properly checked. There really isn't a fail safe way otherwise. Most likely some damage has already occurred in that situation. So even running it anymore will only cause more damage. Oil has to flow freely through the passages, bearing and journals under a specific amount of pressure. Engines are built with very specific tolerances and that oil is supposed to flow in those tight tolerances, no way that sludge is flowing between the bearings as it should, so even starting it to flush it is causing even more damage. If you are willing to except damage and possibly catastrophic failure, then you could try some fresh oil and something like marvel mystery oil into the oil, run it for 30 seconds or less, flush, new filter and repeat that process until it is all cleared up. Could take 5 times could take 20. You will have to determine what's best in your situation, either way you definitely have an unfortunate situation on your hands. Hope it works out for the best. Thanks 🐲
@thedragon2299 thank you so much for your response! yeah I feel like a idiot for putting that much in and not realizing where it was going. My buddy was like man I don't think it's supposed to take more than a gallon, while im pouring in jug after jug lol ugh what a mistake. I'm assuming adding the 2 gallons of water and water wetter plus a half jug of coolant didn't help. Its weird because the coolant separated and poured out but the milkshake poured out but left residue everywhere. I used to work on vehicles all the time. I let my bike sit for 7 years and finally got back to it, and i did this smh. I'm assuming the bearings are probably gone but figured it was worth a shot to try to flush it out. I have blown and wet vacuumed a majority of it out of top of head but I can see it in the case and it has the consistency of I'd say wet grease. Thanks again, guess I'm going to try flushing it with mystery oil. Would you use something like rotella t6 or regular oil or the motorcycle oil to flush with?
@smithscreeklawncarel.l.c.7604 off the record, if it were me I would buy the cheapest 15w-40 at auto zone, put at least 1/2 quart of marvel mystery oil, the rest 15w-40 and flush like that. The first cycle only let it run for 30 seconds or less, then flush it. Maybe you can run each one a little longer after that. Then when all is said and done run t6 from there out.
oh damn. I changed the oil of my freshly bought used MT07 with 20.000km/2018 model. It was cappuccino coloured and now I am scared that I have to tear apart the engine =/
Hopefully it's just a water pump seal or something like that so you don't have to tear into the engine. Just don't run it like that until you fix it. Let us know what you find out. Good luck 🐲
I bought an 07 gsxr 600 without a rad oil cooler, they told me it needed a new water pump, so I just went and bought all three things, the coolant and oil were mixed in the water pump, I'm wondering before putting everything back together should I just open her up and check the freeze plugs to be safe before putting everything on and running with new coolant and oil ? Thanks in advance, love the videos!
It wouldn't hurt to take a look at them, couple of them are hard to see under the cams, but you can see them. I've had a couple people on here tell me that their freeze plugs just rusted right through. So there is usually alot more to the story someone tells us. So I'm not sure by your comment if it didn't have a radiator or oil cooler, or just didn't have the oil cooler. But from your story, it sounds like maybe the water pump failed and it was over heating maybe. So with these waterpumps the oil can't mix with coolant, but if it overheated it could have blown a head gasket. What I'm getting at is there are only a few things that can cause the oil and coolant. These things are, freeze plug malfunction, blown head gasket, cracked head, cracked block, or oil cooler failure. On a rare occasion the waterpump shaft goes bad and allows coolant and oil to mix, but it's rare, but at that time it would also have leaked a ton out of the weep hole on bottom of pump first, and was ignored. Hope all this info helps you some. Feel free to hit me back up when you do some more diagnostics.
Same problem in my bike too
Can you make a video how you pressure test the oil cooler.please
This was a customer's bike I repaired over 2 years ago, so I don't have it to make any videos of. Just simply place your air nozzle into one of the coolant tube, place your thumb or something over the opposite coolant tube, and observe if there is any air coming from the oil passage, if no air comes from oil passage, then it's fine. It's just that simple. But they are hardly ever the problem. The usual suspect are the freeze plugs.
Hey brother I have the same bike and same problem the guy I bought the bike from only had water in the coolant and it froze. Turns out 2 freeze plugs popped out. I tapped them back in and did 2 flushes but I’m still seeing very very milky oil on both flushes. Still haven’t seen any change in the oil. Any advice would help thanks!
Sounds like there is still a problem somewhere. Unfortunately when it froze it could have cracked the head or block, something like that. Skip to the chase and get one of those coolant system pressure testers to see where your leak is. Autozone used to have the loaner tool program, not sure if you have somewhere like that near you, but they have kits you hook on your radiator and hand pump pressure into your system to find the leak. It may be internal and hard to find, but it might point you in the right direction. Also possibility one of your freeze plugs popped back out under pressure. The milky oil should have gotten less and less each flush, but it does usually take many flushes to get rid of all traces of slime, but as I mentioned you should see less and less oil each time. It definitely won't be gone in 2 flushes, the slime sticks to everything inside the engine and takes awhile to be flushed, so check that again too. Good luck with it, sorry to hear about this problem.
@@thedragon2299 okay brother so 6 days later after some flushes the oil looks a lot better but there still is the smallest amount of coolant that’s leaking in the oil. I drained the oil completely and filled the coolant up and no water was dripping out the oil pan. But when the bike is full of oil and is turned on it starts to leak into the oil but not a lot. any direction u can steer me in? Also another thing I’ve noticed is the coolant is only mixing in the oil. When I flush the coolant it looks completely normal. Also i just went and took it for the smallest ride up the road and the motor just bogged out. Maybe a head gasket? Alsooo the bike over heats after sitting in idle for a while
Year ago I had small amount of something white in my oil ( got it since brand new, change oil at 5800km ) and few days ago (8300km) finally changed coolant fluid for the first time and noticed that something is not right. Coolant was dirty and once again something white in reservoir and under radiator cap.
Am in troubles or it can be coincidence - short trips / two mixed coolants?
What bike do you have? What year? Alot of times there will be some strange looking things on your first service, due to break in and such.
@@thedragon2299 Triumph Street Triple 765R 2020.
Break in period was slow proces - I didn't rush and had oil chance around 1k km + had to add coolant fluid, because many Triumphs are missing from factory, then ~4.5 once again oil change.
Later ran our of warranty, went for dyno tune & custom map and changed the oil once again. Now 8300km and for the first time ever changed coolant fluid in my garage and noticed not the best quality of coolant...
Motorcycle used mostly around the town or to work in last season.
@Street765R This does sound slightly concerning, check your oil to see if it's looking milky now. One way is to pull off your oil filler cap and insert a long zip tie down in your crankcase(as a dipstick), pull it out and see if it looks milky. If the coolant and oil are mixing, it could be for many reasons, but you definitely need to determine if you have a problem. You most definitely don't want coolant circulating around your bearings, it will cause catastrophic engine failure. If you are uncertain, it's best to get it to a shop. I rather find out its nothing and pay a fee for no reason, then to find out the hard way that something went wrong. It's never good when coolant and oil mix.
How many times did you have to flush it before you weren’t seeing any more left over coolant mixed in with the oil? I’m on my third flush and still seeing diluted oil - I swapped out the oil cooler that was bad on mine. But still not convinced it’s not a bad head gasket
Usually 3 times. You should see a big difference each time. Some are worse than others though, I've heard of others who had to take the engines apart and scrape of the sludge because it wouldn't flush out. Take of the clutch cover or something like that so you can look inside to see how bad it is. You could still have a problem where the coolant is still mixing with oil, or it will look like milky grease inside the engine. Good look with it.🐲
Hello, I bought my bike it had a cracked motor and stator cover, no air box and leaking radiator, (still had some antifreeze in it) it was sitting in negative temperatures since October 2021, as soon as I drained the oil it was milky, it wasn't antifreeze it was oil mixed with water. People advised me it was moisture and to replace everything and let it run until temp reached 220, for at least 20 mins a day.. (after everything replaced) so far i have been letting it run these 5 days on the stand for almost 30 minutes and oil so far looks good. Should I replace the water pump gaskets just in case ? Another person told me that could be an issue, when i looked at the water pump from the outside (removed cover) it looked normal, (no milky mixture) .Any advice would be helpful, Thanks
If there isn't any coolant leaking from under the water pump then don't worry about it. Same with oil, if it still looks good after running it that much, then everything should be fine. Change the oil one more time, and go enjoy riding your bike. Just keep an eye on oil from time to time to make sure it's still good.
I’m dealing with the same issue right now and trying to figure out where I should dig in first. Bikes a 2006 GSXR 600. I switched over to water wetter during the season and forgot to change back. I’m thinking it could be the freeze plugs. I took it for a ride one day , it overheated and blew milky oil mix all over the plastics and rear tire. I had the bike towed home and now gonna start to take a look at it. I’m hoping it’s not the head gasket. Where would you suggest I start? I was thinking of doing a compression test and a leak down test. And like you said I’ve heard it can also be the oil cooler , or water pump seal or freeze plugs. could you give me a write up on how to access the freeze plugs. I know the tank , air box , and a few other things have to come off. Do you have to mess with the cam chain tensor at all? Any help is much appreciated.
Hey sorry, I never saw a notification about your comment and just saw it when someone else asked a question. I hope it all worked out for you, and again sorry I just now saw this.
Hello how are you? I have a 2001 GSX-R 600 it's over heating, I change the thermostat and the radiator sensor for the fan and It's still heating up. What could be the problem?
Waterpump could be bad, also make sure you are using coolant and not just water
Any idea how the freeze plug came out? In other words, can or will they come out for other reasons than freezing? Because my bike has the same issue rn, but it doesn't freeze where I live... thanks on advance if you're are able to reply
It's a common problem with them, they have been know to pop out for no apparent reason according to some other people's experiences. If the bike gets hot they will sometimes blow out. Another guy said previous owner only ran mostly water in the bike and it rusted his straight through. Hey be sure to check out my Facebook page too for some awesome motorcycle content facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057489818717&mibextid=ZbWKwL
Mine had the same symptoms but didn't pop out. It rusted a tiny hole and i haad no clue. I was dumb and kept adding coolant because I thought it was low or leaking but couldn't find any leaks. It turns out it sucked 2 gallons of coolant/water😢 until it started smoking. Started the tear down thinking head gasket but nope rusted hole...
hi, the bike still started when milky oil? my bike is same problem and it still start normaly. i was check the water pump, it's not problem
It will start, but you shouldn't run it with milky oil. You must find the problem and fix it. Do not run it with milky oil, you will have bearing failure leading to catastrophic failure of the engine.
@@thedragon2299 thanks
How can you tell if you have bearing failure? I had ran my bike, overfilled my bike shut off on me, definitely rode it with overfilled oil, what all damage could I’ve done?
You can tell if you have bearing failure due to excessive noise. If you overfilled with oil and ran it, it would usually blow out gaskets and seals, may push oil into combustion chamber. In rare occasions it could do engine damage depending on how much oil you put in there. If oil level is over full due to coolant or gas getting into the crank case, then you could have bearing problems.
friend I have that same problem in my GSXR 750 Suzuki I don't know what it really is if it could be the seals in the water pump or if the problem comes from the plugs that are in the cylinder head I want you to tell me more as soon as you see my message or except for the problem I have that same motorcycle it has a lot standing there it mixes the water with the oil but it does not always do it and the temperature takes time to drop with the fan on until 210 which it must turn off
What year is it,? if it's 2007 it can't be the water pump seal because of the way its made. It could be the freeze plug or head gasket, something like that.
@@thedragon2299 is year 2007 GSXR 750
@@cesarfcomarte2335 so it's not the waterpump seal then. The way I understand it is that they designed so that can't happen, so most likely it's something else, like freeze plug, oil cooler, cracked engine block, cracked head or bad head gasket. Whatever you do, don't run it until you find out, because coolant is bad for your bearings.
@@thedragon2299 okay brother thanks
Hi there, I am experiencing a similar problem on my 1999 Suzuki Hayabusa gsx 1300r. there is milky oil in the oil pan and the level of coolant from the radiator has droped down a little bit. how can i test the oil cooler to rule it out or how can i tell that the leak is coming from the water pump? seeing that its not a lot of water mixing with oil at a single time
First off, do not run the engine with any amount of coolant in the oil, it will ruin the bearings. I'm not positive about the water pump on gsxr 1300, but most water pumps back then had a seal in them that went bad and mixed oil and coolant, around 2005 they changed the design and could no longer mix when seal went out. No way to really test it, but if you remove it, you can usually see where it leaked. As far as testing oil cooler, I just remove it from the bike, and use air hose to spray air in the coolant inlet nipple to make sure it doesn't come out the oil hole, if that makes sense. It's kind of a crude way to test, but good enough to tell ya what you need to know. Hope this helps you, again I'm not certain on the 99 busa, but most likely it has the older design water pump, maybe you can confirm that by aliitle more research it.
@@thedragon2299 thanks for the infor
I have a similar problem but the milky oil is in the radiator like alot
It could be a number of things that can cause it. If milky oil is in the radiator, it's most likely in the engine as well, try not to run it until you figure it out, because it will destroy the engine if you run it too much. If your bike is 2007 or newer, it most likely isn't the water pump, but it could be freeze plug popped out like this one did, it can be a bad oil cooler, it can be a bad head gasket. Worst case it could be a cracked engine block, but I doubt it. You can do a compression check on all the cylinders to see if it's a head gasket, you can take off the oil cooler and blow air in the oil holes to see if it comes out of the coolant passages to see if it's bad.
Hello, I'm having similar problems. I did everything you did, checked the water pump, and oil cooler and they are fine. I removed the valve cover and saw that one freezer plug had came out. Could you reuse the plug? If so, what kind of adhesive do you use to put the plug back in?
They make something called permatex form a gasket #1 especially for freeze plugs, but there is a debate about using it or nothing at all. I believe its smart to use a little coating on it, but first clean the freeze plug and the hole real good with a scuff or scotch brite pad. Just use a small socket that fits inside the freeze plug and tap it back in, just a little past flush. Good trick is put the freeze plug in the freezer overnight and before it warms back up install it and it will go in much easier.
THE DRAGON thank you for the video and the quick response!
@@Shoyorollable No problem and good luck. Hit me up if you have anymore questions.
My 04 is losing a ton of coolant into the oil within seconds. Sat for 5 years in a barn.
Is this able to be done with the head installed?
Coolant can get into the oil if a freeze plug has popped out, like this one in This Video can be put back in without removing the cams, but the other 2 freeze plugs are under the cams and the cams have to be removed in order to reinstall freeze plugs. Coolant can also get in the oil if the head gasket is bad and you have to remove the head to replace it. Coolant can get into the oil if the head has a crack in it, you can rent a coolant pressure test kit at auto zone and test your system, if it has a leak you can hear air where the leak is. Also if yours has it, the oil cooler can go bad and the coolant can mix with oil. On an 04 coolant may be able to get in if the waterpump seal is bad, but research that, I know on the 2005-2007 like this one, the waterpump seal does not cause oil and coolant to mix. First you have to determine for yourself where your problem is.
Mine rusted through. Didn't pop out.
Pulled them out last night. Pulling the cams today to replace all of them. What a pain in the ass.
@@infernojoe7554 Damn, sorry to hear that, first time I every heard of that. Owner must have been using water instead of antifreeze. Well at least it's fixed.
Where did u get freeze plugs at
How did you test the oil cooler ?
Wondering the same
Could you please explain how to test the oil cooler on a GSXR 600 ? There’s not really any videos on how to test and not much detailed info on the GSXR forums.
All I did was blocked one end of where the coolant goes in and then with some low air pressure, sqeezed some air in the other end using an air blower nozzle, just to see if it came out of the oil holes. Hope that makes sense to you, nothing scientific, just any way to make sure the oil isn't mixing with the water. The majority of the time it's the freeze plugs. Some people find that the freeze plugs are completely rusted away from previous owners using water instead of coolant.
how did you flush the system?
Let it drain and drip for days, then I just kept changing new oil and marvel mystery oil, run it a few minutes, then change again, several times until it looked good, then customer did very frequent oil changes after he got the bike back. All is well.
I have a same issues 😭😭😭 with my k6 please help me
Have you figured out which problem you have yet. Alot of people have this problem and it ends up being the freeze plugs inside the motor under the cams.
Not yet actually my bike was still on the shop for a week already if they still didn't finish it in 3 days i will definitely do it my with myself any how did you fix that loose freeze plugs? I think i have that same issues with yours
@@gregoriogrueso6688 well I got real lucky and it was only that one you saw in the video, I just cleaned it up real good put some sealant on it and tapped it right back in, but there a few more freeze plugs under the cams, if its one of those, then you have to pull the cams out to fix them.
I see now the issues i got a 3 holes in it in freeze plugs my problem was i don't have a spare freeze plugs.. do you think that metal sealant will do the job for the mean time?
@@gregoriogrueso6688 If your freeze plugs are missing, that means they are down inside the motor somewhere. If you keep running the engine, the metal freeze plug could destroy the engine. I don't believe any sealant will work, you need to get the freeze plugs back in there. I'm not sure if you can even buy them, you might either have to get them used out of another used bike **But if they popped out inside you engine, you HAVE TO FIND THEM BEFORE THEY LOCK UP YOUR ENGINE.