Dave Rubin DEBASES Himself Responding To Deeply Personal Anti-Gay Backlash | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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How in the hell did he link his Conservative audience's homophobia to being the left's fault. This man is the saddest human to ever live.
To the far right, a rainy day is the lefts fault. If McDonald's is out of ketchup, it's the lefts fault. Etc...
“People are homophobic because otherwise they left will go too far” no Dave people are homophobic because they are homophobic and their slippery slope fallacy is just a rouse.
@@52flyingbicycles Some dudes like 🍆 , some ladies like 🐈. Some like both, and some like neither. Everyone needs to live and let live.
@@52flyingbicycles and he cultivated his toxic audiences beliefs.
He's pandering to them because they pay his bills. Simplest answer is follow the money.
It's miraculous what modern medicine can accomplish. Imagine a human being born completely without a spine, and still somehow surviving well into adulthood and even thriving.
And when has that ever happened?
Mike pence has done well for himself.
@@SpinoRexy733 Jack is poking fun at Dave Rubin for being a coward
Had me confused in the first half 😂
Lol
He just doesn't want to lose his conservative buddies. He's a coward, it's sad...
Funny how he was on liberal networks that actually gave a shit about his lifestyle and ideals then he totally turned on them for a bag of cash lol
Complete coward. I was legitimately shocked.
Real sad. It's like watching a horse with a broken leg. What comes to mind is Blair white when other conservatives bash her to her face and she just contorts it to a positive note
Rubin brought this on himself by catering to a conservative audience. I stopped listening to him when I realized that he wasn't really a libertarian.
...not "buddies"...."money"
He didn't expect the backlash because his brain was still on recovery mode from taking on so many high level ideas.
Ideas bro
Underrated comment 😭
...*important ideas. We must never forget how important those ideas are.
So let me get this right. Dave gets annihilated by the right then turns around and blames the left. Its the left fault that you are all biggots. Its almost like hes telling his audience "Its ok, you are all biggots but its not your fault, in fact you should blame the left". Dave should get a gold medal for this amazing display of mental gymnastics.
Meh. Bronze at best. Try Christian Apologetics for the true Gold in Mental Gymnastics.
@Soulgain Dave’s to mental gymnastics, what Simone Biles is to physical gymnastics.
Rave played himself.
The party of "personal responsibility". I wish these people would drop off the face of the earth. At the very least they need to lose their power, they aren't in a position to represent _anyone_ .
Ah yes, the famed conservative “Personal responsibility” where you blame the left for everything
I feel sorry for his future kids who are going to grow up and learn that their dad is a self-hating gay man who wanted money and fame so bad that he fell in with people who hate him for who he is.
I think you totally nailed it.
@Sean No lies detected.
And then his husband ends up divorcing him and requesting full custody so that Dave can be free to marry a woman and have no children to get in the way of his career.
"Daddy, my friends say you're a cuck and that I'm a "cuck boy," what does that mean?"
I don’t think he’s self hating I think he is trying super hard to grift
Rubin: "It's the left's fault that the right is opposed to my gay relationship".
Imagine smiling along as your so-called friend goes off talking about how you being gay is like him being an alcoholic
Kinda sad honestly
I wouldn't have done it. F both of them
He couldn't defend having his own kids. What a pathetic human. I'm honestly amazed that his partner is still with him.
It's not even funny, it's just sad
To be fair, his husband works for him on his show, so he's probably just as much a POS as Rubin is.
I wouldn’t touch him with a ten feet pole🤮🤮🤮
Dave should have never made his personal decision with his husband public in the first place.
Yeah I wish Dave would engage them more. Like when is he going to clap back and say "Yes you see my sexuality as a disease and I see you as homophobic. Doesn't mean we can't come together to work on common goals. Your homophobia doesn't get in the way of us working together on *insert policy*". That would be an actual response. Instead he ALWAYS cucks himself!!
I’m sure the hubby knows that Dave has to tow the line and be “one of the _good_ gays” to keep his right wing, grifting cash grab a-flowin’.
The fact that he's surprised that the right is homophobic as fuck is funny
Well, the gay Secretary of Transportation wants kindergartners to learn homosexuality in the classroom, while he & his husband are grooming their future sex partner.
@@jag92949 Wtf?
@@Drroccy97 Pete Buttigieg wants to harm children.
@Jag Channel you should save your fantasies for Grindr.
I don't think he's surprised, but rather underestimated how vicious the right wing/conservative are.
Kyle is so right. I don't care that Dave is on the right, I care that he's weak and doesn't engage his fellow citizens on the right and call out their stupidity. What happened to the battle of the ideas? He just lays down on the battlefield
He gets paid to do just that.
He says whatever he believes his audience wants to hear. He knows that the right will throw him away the instant he's no longer useful as a token LGBT who toes the line.
He's okay with selling out the rest of the gay community as long as the checks keep coming in. He just wants to be rich enough that his family is insulated from discrimination.
Same as Ben Shapiro.
He prefers the "free market of ideas" so he can get paid for spouting certain kinds of ideas. That way his ideas don't have to do any fighting.
Of course he's right,but whyyyyyyyyy does he comment Rubin's cognitive dissonance(if he even has that brain function)?And Beck's 200 years old golden letter!? Kyle's learned nothing from Chris Hedges,who calls Beck's religion;MAGIC CHRISTIANITY.Kyle's advertising Cornel West,but disrespects Chris Hedges!?Those 2 share same world view,with diferent voices!More Hedges,less nonsense☝
I care that he is on the right, since he used his position as a former leftist to protect, run cover for and give base to his right wing sides bullshit, blame the left for everything and be a tool to allow right wing figures to be shown to his left wing audience who were still following him.
Dennis prager literally told him in an interview on his own show that the right needed dave to continue to pretend to be left and a jew (they'd convert him to christian later) in order to to serve the rights’ agenda
David is shocked at the response because he’s a rich, white, “conservative”, Influencer who happens to be gay and having a baby.
Yep, he thought him being a rich white man was going to exempt him from being discriminated against.
He doesn't realize their awful principles that he espouses, they're not grifting, they actually believe in them
@@alexusbratva878 do they believe in them? It’s easy to appeal to certain people who have a certain mindset if there is money to be made. Who really knows what David’s husband believes in, just so long as David keeps racking in the cash.
@@crobinson2624 avaricious principles
@@alexusbratva878 it’s all about the Benjamin’s.
Dave rubin did politics a favor. He exposed the hypocrisy of the right.
That much is certain.
pretty sure it was already explicit
It's been done before and continues to be done. But it doesn't matter to the Right. They are perfectly fine being exposed and called out, over and over.
How
Pretty sure the right doesn't even care about being hypocrites
I sure hope Dave is stashing away the cash now, because I don't know how long this conservative pundit gig is going to last.
He'll need that money to hire body-guards for his children, once he sends them off to a school where the teachers call them sodomites.
@@awesometwitchy Oh, please. Do you think he'd send his kids to a Christian school? That makes zero sense. They'll be going to a Montessori school.
@@originalhgc I'd honestly find it more insulting if he didn't send them to a Christian school, like "hey guys, I know I called your vision of education woke and said that you were eating civilization but can I still enroll my kids here? I just don't feel safe around the Christian schools that I empowered, you understand right?"
I love how Glen Beck equates alcoholism and being gay as similar personal flaws that god endowed them with lmao
5:56 God created (Dave) flaws and all 😂
Never mind what Beck’s viewpoint implies about his god.
Alcoholism isn't a personal flaw, though, but a disease. The vast majority of humans can drink alcohol to varying amounts and never become alcoholic. There's something in the physiology of people who suffer from alcoholism that makes their dependency and vulnerability to the substance far greater than most people.
One last point to make. Drinking irresponsibly and behaving irresponsibly while under its influence isn't the same thing as being an alcoholic. The former is a personal choice, the latter (namely the tendency to become physiologically and psychologically dependent on alcohol) isn't but a product of losing the genetic lottery.
@@MonCappy That's what he was saying about Dave being gay.
@@MonCappy Yeah I think he meant flaw as in a genetic flaw, affecting physiology as you say, not flawed judgement.
This guy (Dave Rubin) is a legitimate joke.
He would let these people malign and debase his own family like that… All for money. Coward is not strong enough of a word.
Calling him a coward is an insult to cowards
Agreed. He is unbelievably pathetic. I've never seen such a sorry-ass song-and-dancer for the right wing.
spineless is a better word
everyone but me gotta learn ur cringe
He's an enemy collaborator, and make no mistake, the extreme right are our enemies and the enemies of the rest of humanity.
It's really sad how Dave can't even stand up for himself. He should've said "My husband and I have decided to have children. If you don't like it, too bad for you!"
imagine their poor kid... when they grow up and see their dad doing this squirming bs to blame the wrong people for actual bigotry against their family's existence...
Bingo.. but I guess it's easy when you have zero dignity/integrity.
His entire business model is being a gay token to make the right comfortable about being homophobic and he's obviously very comfortable with selling his dignity for money.
I have 0 doubt in my mind he wouldn't give a rat's ass about any of this, if it didn't threaten him financially.
Glenn Beck literally said out loud that craziness runs in his family. That's pure gold.
Also, that his loving god made them that way.
@@nataschavisser573 Sounds like God is a sadist with a penchant for dark humor.
Glenn Beck really just said “you being gay is like me being an alcoholic”
I'm not even gay but I felt insulted.
So the double tested by god are gay alcoholics.
...with the implied put down that, Beck is at least fighting his 'sinful' urges, but Dave is not.
In other news, there's also a good chance Candace Owen's fans would turn on her in a fucking heartbeat if she said anything remotely pro-black.
"So, the KKK burned a cross outside my house last night, and honestly it's totally understandable, and only happened because the RADICAL left aren't listening to the legitimate fears of beautiful hardworking white Americans.
And with gas prices right now, burning that cross probably took food right out of their children's mouths, all thanks to president BRANDON!"
Candace Owens, probably
Lol. They did, when CO said she enjoyed the half-time show at the Superbowl.
@@gordonstrong5232 - this made me actually laugh out loud 😂 spot on!
@Soapy Greens nobody on the right cared about Candace liking Dr. Dre. You sound as silly as Glen Beck in the video and another reason why I’ll never join a party
@@malcolmxpanther -- 🙄 You are incorrect.
Source 1: "Conservatives confused by widely-praised Super Bowl half-time show...", Independent, 2/14/22
Source 2: "Candace Owens’ Fans Are Big Mad She Praised the Blackity Black Superbowl Halftime Show", Black Enterprise.
Source 3: "Candace Owens Praised the Super Bowl Halftime Show and Her Fans Made Her Instantly Regret It", Second Nexus, 2/19/22
Finally, if CO's tweet praising the last Superbowl Halftime Show is *still up*, just check out some of the responses to her Tweet.
As a gay watching, I cannot imagine the psychological pretzel-twisting you would have to force on yourself to lead a life like Dave's surrounded by people who degrades you with your permission!
"Your entire existence is absolutely disgusting but I do really love that you continue to suck up to us..."
All the money in the world, I still would not want to put myself in his shoes, having to humiliate myself based on my identity, to appease people who wish me ill will.
‘There’s no hate like Christian hate.’
No, self hating is way worse.
Gays are self-hating because of religion.
Christianity endorses self hatred, that's what bring a God fearing Christian is all about.
@@Dsullivann I don't endorse hate. I am a Christian and I have tons of disagreements with the Christian Right.
Well thats what he gets for aligning himself with the right. What did he expect from the group that fights to take away his own rights.
They say everyone has their price and Dave found his.
He's trying to make the "I'm one of the good ones" arguement.
For real. If gay marriage was somehow repealed, Dave will still find a way to defend it or blame it on the left even if the people behind it were deeply right wing.
Imagine seeing Dave Rubin and thinking “I should marry him and have a child with him”?
He deserves a better husband who won't degrade himself.
Not one, but two children!!!
I wish Dave and his family well but the schadenfreude of a grifter getting damaged by his own grift is so overwhelming.
Those kids don't deserve that though.
As an ex Mormon it was only mildly triggering to listen to Glen Beck's voice
I actually forgot he existed lol.
@@Spongebrain97 He has a pretty huge media empire. Honestly, he's calmed down the crazy from his Fox News days. He wasn't even like that when he started on Fox, but then he essentially went full clownshow. Cable news is such garbage.
I thought he was dead already.
@@SaraphDarklaw said the same thing about pat Robertson.
It’s Glenn Beck popular among Mormons? (Genuine question since I’ve never listened to Glenn Beck for more than 20 seconds if I could help it.)
Conservative civil war let's go!🔥🔥🔥
The party of "personal responsibility". I wish these people would drop off the face of the earth. At the very least they need to lose their power, they aren't in a position to represent _anyone_ .
It USED to be the party of personal responsibility. It is now the party of 1987. It is the party of 2008. It is the party of COVID-19. It is the party of Neo-Feudalism.
Dave Rubin is a sad example of a human being who has absolutely NO pride in themselves.
I still remember when he was somewhat surprised that his buddy Ben Shapiro told him to his face that he wouldn’t’ve attended a celebration of Dave’s marriage. I can’t decide whether Dave genuinely doesn’t understand that right-wingers actually hate who he is and what he represents, or if he knows it and is ok with it as long as he keeps his big L.A. house with the pool.
End of the day, he wants to have his cake and eat it. He doesn’t want the negativity that inevitably comes with being a gay public figure on the right.
Well Kyle, you’ve said it plenty of times, this man will do anything for the almighty dollar
What did he expect? He is part of a political party that is in direct opposition to who he is.
Welcome to the Republican party Dave.
Rave doesn't care because he has no principles, as long as they get his name right on the check.
@@antonlowe5370 That's pathetic.
That’s not all of the Republican Party bro. FOH.
@@malcolmxpanther Bro? I know it's not all Republicans, just like not all Republicans are racists. But if you vote for a party that every white supremacists sees as their party an the people you elect will not advocate for the people who need a voice, then you are part of the problem.
I will give Rubin one thing, he hasnt gone the "well im actually straight now" arc like Milo.... probably the most charitable I've been to dave in 5 years
Still dislike the “Why I left the left” arc, everything went downhill after that.
For enough cash Dave Rubin will undergo his ‘straight Dave’ phase
That could well be coming down the road. This boy will do anything for a buck.
Only a matter of time.
Give him time.
“There’s the time for straight talk”
I think that’s a poor choice of words here Kyle.
Hol up, gay time.
I read this comment right as he said that and spit out my drink
Dave Rubin would have a point if the left didn’t want him to adapt because he’s a right winger but nobody is making that case on the left lol. The right are judging him for who he is not the left .
Most ppl on the right don’t care about the gay marriage or adopting crap. It’s a loud fringe. A much higher % don’t want it jammed down their throats, taught to elementary school children etc but very few have a problem with two grown adults of the same sex adopting a kid.
@@gregorypalmer4909 Sure, that is why the backlash was minimum. You are not very tolerant if the people do not behave according to your Christian values.
Got a poll to support that view? It's your claim, prove it.
@@gregorypalmer4909 Some conservatives suggest gay couples being allowed to adopt is getting it shoved down their throats and is grooming the child. Which line is correct?
While it may be true that not everyone on the right is homophobic, everyone on the right wing also has absolutely zero problems with homophobia.
I don't know how Dave can live with himself.
He does what Ben Shapiro apparently does and cries into his "bed full of money".
@@Michael_Smith_1 👈 someone tell this religious fash it's 2022 not 22
"Good, decent thoughtful Conservatives" . . . my ass. You get what you deserve Dave Rubin
To be clear: Rubin’s husband was always 100% on board and fully invested in Rubin’s deliberate grift/scam. He may be even more at the wheel than Rubin himself.
I think Tim Dillon when he said his husband might be stealing money from Rubin. I wouldn’t blame anyway.
I would believe this. Dave seems a bit dim.
@@nataschavisser573 😁 not the brightest bulb indeed
I of course feel bad for Dave for the horrible things people say to him, but he is in denial or is the dumbest person in the world.
These certain people don’t just disagree with him and iDeAs… they hate his existence as a gay man. Like literally.
You shouldn’t feel bad for him. He knew what seeds he had in his pouch when he decided to grow a tree. Don’t be sad for him because he has to water that same tree or face financial ruin.
He knew exactly what group he was pandering to when he chose conservatism. “Keep the status quo” means some of us shouldn’t have the same rights. That’s disgusting.
@@MuscleBound_withDre Agreed. He deserves to be in the same purgatory as Milo where he'll never be respected because he loves those who hate him and hates those who support him. Good riddance.
@@MuscleBound_withDre Does he? I mean we kill the guy for being an absolute moron, if IQ is 60% inherited, is it really his fault? I literally have no idea how he's still have able to scratch together an audience....like whats his demo? Gotta think that he's only surviving because people give him the spotlight on the absolute moronic things he says. that generates views.
@@MuscleBound_withDre Exactly. People like him deserve no sympathy. The fact that anyone can simply be a republican AND gay is just insane to me...
I don't because Dave basically kept shooting himself in the foot and encouraging his audience to do so to him the when he said he wanted it to stop they kept going so he blamed people who never shot him in the foot.
This is one of Kyle Kulinski's best videos. It's a funny thing: Kyle's often called "the culture war stuff" a distraction but the irony is that he's often much better talking about these issues than he is on policy.
Couldn't agree more !
I only agree with Kyle partially on policy but I agree with him almost 100% on issues of basic human decency.
I think I'm against him having a kids...it's because the kid will grow up in a household that live in denial and lies, he can't even stand up for himself, how is he going to raise a kid that will constantly get hammer on question about his family when their dad live in denial and on the side that is hating on their family.
By that argument no republican should have kids. I'm okay with that.
@@dougn2350 Not really. Doesn't mean every republican is the same.
As a Middle Eastern who support human rights and live where most of these rights are not guaranteed to all people, I'd say the line should stretch as far as possible to include everyone and guarantee all people are treated equal. The Conservatives in USA are very similar to the ignorant people I encounter here everyday.
Well said. I honestly think a lot of American conservatives would be happier in Saudi Arabia
It is a wetdream of the conservative American to turn the USA into a fascist ethnostate.
I'm ignorant to the very concept of a non-Bigoted middle eastern people.
@@Gfish17 ok!! I guess all I can say is I hope ur life experiences lead u to meet non bigoted ones one day.
Milo betrayed Dave? Well to be fair this isn’t the first time he’s turned his back on a man.
Haha well played sir
Lol, won't be the last either, I'm not buying Milo's 'former homosexual' religious grift for a second
@Gordon Strong Nah you don’t get it. Milo’s not gay, his husband is.
I couldn't even watch it. Right when he said "God made you and me with flaws" (implying Dave's sexuality is a flaw), I had to just skip ahead. A bunch of farmers and sheep herders wrote a book and it's still used as the basis for what is and isn't moral lol
"...a bunch of farmers and sheep herders..." 😆😆😆
EXACTLY what I just did!!
"You being gay is kind of like me being an alcoholic" - Glenn Beck
Conservatives showing how much they ACTUALLY care about children once again.
What are you talking about? How is this conservatives not caring about children?
Its not hard to figure out. They demand they be born but only into circumstances they approve of. Otherwise, they'd rather them not be born at all (surrogacy) or remain orphans (as opposed to adopted into a gay family). They've been doing the fake pro life bit for how long now?
Honestly, the correct thing for ANYONE to do as far as what Dave Rubin does in his personal life is file it under "none of my goddamn business".
@@Rob_Cary Child-mother bonding is vital in early years. It's not right to deny the child the right to it.
@@danb9028 social bonding, not necessarily child-mother
@@Rob_Cary so they don’t care about children because they want to avoid unnecessary detrimental effect to children
The reason you're seeing this kind of behavior from Dave Rubin is because he's living in limbo land. He thinks he's conservative but an essential part of his life and personality is diametrically opposed to the ideology he panders to. He wants to have it both ways. He's a walking paradox and reality came smashing down on him really hard. It's sad.
17:41 - "It's going to work out well, as the studies show." No it isn't. The studies didn't take into account one of the gay parents being Dave Rubin.
5 years ago Ben Shitpiro was on Rubins show and Ben totally insulted Rubin by declaring he would never attend Rubins gay marriage.
Rubin basically got on his knees and apologized for talking about it.
Really? He apologized for talking about it? What did he say?
Dave Rubin is going for "At least the right tolerates intolerance of people like me."
Can you imagine being one of his kids later in life seeing your parent being this smarmy….
Sad
I almost feel bad for him... almost
sO mUcH FoR tHe tOleRaNt LeFt
Funny, I don't
Almost? I didn't feel bad about him at all.
@@coldpizzaslut lol it's not intolerance, troll bot.
As a pansexual, even I can't feel sorry for him.
He comes out as gay, his side tears him apart.
Then Dave turns around and, claim's it's the lefts fault the right don't like him.
Sorry, not sorry.
Can't feel sympathy for that and, stop with your fake outrage.
I’m enjoying so much what’s happening to him🤣🤣🤣
13:05 it's funny that Kyle used interracial marriage as an example. This was literally the Mormon church's stance until the 1970s
I hope his children can look back on this and see that their father was too much of a coward to defend his own family from bigots.
Imagine if a Jewish commentator said "Oh man, well these antisemites have some decent points but lets just agree to disagree.".
Honestly, I'm surprised Ben Shapiro hasn't done that.
Ben Shapiro is more of a neocon, so it's not like they would get along anyway.
Dave Rubin showing off his lack of spine again? Still can't figure out how that man stands upright.
The funniest part of this whole thing is that it was Rubin who did the PragerU video telling us all how the right was more tolerant than the left.
I hope that particular YTP resurfaces
@@theultimatetempest1918 Mike Figueredo has it clipped in his video about this over on Humanist Report.
The one point I will argue is that adoption is just obviously the superior option of the two when given the choice of helping a child who's completely screwed have a chance at a normal life vs inflicting nine months of shit onto another human being to produce another 80 years worth of pollution solely because you wanted to use your jizz.
Some of the comments I saw on Dave's post were so twisted it got to a point where even I was like, dude these people are fucked.
Haha. Dave "I like talking about ideas" Rubin. Not an ounce of sympathy from me
ironically he has no idea about anything
Also Dave "The Right is more live-and-let-live than the Left" Rubin.
He doesn't talk about ideas, he talks about talking about ideas.
*HE IS SO SPINELESS*
Yeah initially I did feel sympathy for him, but then he demonstrates just how much of a sellout he really is, that he's willing to continue to cultivate the hatred towards HIMSELF just for a quick buck, along with everyone who would dare to suggest he just be himself, and just try to have a happy family. Seriously, screw this guy. I'm gonna just continue to love me some peen and be proud of it.
This segment is kyle at his finest, every point is covered elequently. Really hard to argue against. I'm hoping he can bring the same quality to his other segment
I seriously feel sorry for Dave's future kid(s). If there ever was a situation to inject cognitive dissonance into someone, this would be the situation. Good luck
Man seriously compared being gay to alcoholism...
To the people who say he’s self-hating, I don’t think so. He’s making a calculated choice to pander to his homophobic audience not because he loathes himself, but because, as he so often demonstrates, he has no real beliefs beyond Dave Rubin making money. If that means catering to people who hate an intrinsic part of you, doesn’t matter as long as it pays. He cares more about his bank account than he does his identity, as he so often demonstrates.
No he’s just dumb and thought conservatives were the good guys 😂
I felt sorry at first but after watching him debase himself and blame people who weren’t involved in tearing him down is just disgusting.
Such a selfish guy... "Just move the line until I'm inside, then stop".
I love how people can think children specifically need a mother and father when that literally gives no guarantee they'll be good parents and the fact that there are thousands of well adjusted functioning adults who where raised by single parents, gay parents, grand parents.
Here's the big question his audience should be asking; If Rubin won't disagree with them or call them out on this, what else will he let them get away with?
There’s no way in hell he grew up around Christian conservatives
The most wrong thing Kyle has ever posted is when he talked about fast food... absolutely got to be canceled
As a gay man, I can't even hate Rubin. He's so far beneath contempt all you can feel is some hybrid of nausea and pity
A religious Mormon thinks homosexualality is a sin, I for one am shocked 🙄
"**** **** debases him/herself!"
Well yeah, that is what grifter media pundits do for a living Kyle.
More like Dave Rubin has a legitimate fear that his kids will have to see recordings of how he and his base handled their birth.
Idk which was most pathetic... 1️⃣ Dave blaming his backlash on The Left “Boogeyman;” 2️⃣ Dave not sticking up for himself to his bigoted, anti-LGBTQ audience; or 3️⃣ Dave not telling off Glenn for comparing being gay to a genetic flaw and disease (even though you can see the hurt or self-hatred wash over his face). I also felt bad for a millisecond but quickly remembered all the horrible things Dave done and said to hurt others.
All these lgbt conservative types always overestimate how ok their audience actually is with their sexuality outside of using it as a gotcha
Idk why they never see the backlash coming
A very delusional man. These people are against you Dave, they don't care about how well you play 'house-gay'. I feel for him, but let's be real, he made his bed with conservative sheets and now he can lay in them
“There’s a time for straight talk .” Interesting choice of words, Kyle, considering the subject matter.
Great video Kyle. Keep up the good work!
That was a powerful video! I wanted to add by saying that Dave was essentially talking to his boss right? Because that context really matters.
I support same sex couples' right to have kids. Not sure I support Dave Rubin raising any though.
Glenn Beck shouldn't have kids either.
I am right-wing and I agree with Kyle on this one. I would prefer if he chose to adopt (the same for a straight couple) because there are needy kids, but I understand the biological drive to procreate and have kids of your own. Kyle is right about the research, and honestly, even if it was somewhat "bad," it's not like we stop alcoholics or drug addicts from reproducing
I would emphasize that all the people out there (right or left) who oppose gays marrying or having kids because gays are "wrong"... I'm unaware of ANY of these people making ANY effort to make it illegal for alcoholics or drug addicts, criminals, prisoners, serial killers, neo-nazis, klansmen, pedophiles or any other "bad" person, to marry or adopt. But people will bend over backwards to stop gays from doing so.
That's not "protecting children", that's bigotry.
@@Aeroldoth3 Fair point but my guess is thats a small group. I'd assume the overlap between people who would oppose both the former AND the latter is pretty high. Religious conservatives tend to be pretty sanctimonious.
Do they not check for those things when you adopt? I was under the impression that adopting involved both background checks and assessments of financial solvency
@@Michael_Smith_1 nobody cares about your no true Scotsman fallacy
Comparing alcoholism with homosexuality is not showing support.
This is the rant of a true ally! Brilliant Kyle, thank you!
Do you really believe Dave Rubin has trouble sleeping at night?
Yes! I wonder if he sleeps at night!
@@BJN1253 Really? I suspect he doesn't give a shit about anything except clicks and retweets. I am concerned about him becoming a parent but not for reasons of being gay.
@@eileenmarierooney7232 I understand. And I agree with you about the kids.
I both despise and pity Dave Rubin at the same time.
LOVE the new specs kyle!
I grew up a Christian in the PNW. I used to be pro civil unions and let the church decide whether or not they marry same sex couples. I still feel that way. Even though I'm no longer religious.
I don't think Glen Beck was being condescending. He was trying to grapple with the fact that he cares about someone but his beliefs condem their lifestyle.
To be change people's minds. You have to create relationships with them. So I'm not a Dave Rubin fan, but ironically the way he is handling this will do more to convert or opens people's minds of the people whom who's minds need to be changed.
So him taking the insults and not telling them "fuck you" will do more good for his cause.
If you can5 have civil discourse when it's hardest then that principle is bullshit. So Kyle saying "I'm all for discourse but..." is exactly why Progressives can't get anything done. Because they put moral grandstanding over doing what it takes to make actually change.
That's why his audience thinks Jimmy Dore having some listeners from the other side of the isle is "proof he's gone Qanon and a Trumper" rather than seeing how effective his approach is at reeling people in slowly to your side. You explained it perfectly, they are unwittingly grandstanding morally in the face of potential progress
Dave: this is the left's fault
Dave's "friend": no, Dave, it's our religion
I love these people. They're making it easy
No matter how awful a human being Dave Rubin may be, the fact that he's talking about this, is a good thing. Because what is "shocking" today, will be normalized tomorrow. You see this over and over with ethical issues. You need it be in the open, so it can go through that "shocking" phase before it can become accepted. Dave Rubin, whether he realized it or not, is moving his audience towards the left. Now THAT is a shocking realization!
I don't know if I share your optimism. The narcissistic delusion of the right and how he is feeding into it by blaming everyone else for their bigotry and cruelty is just standard operation for them. They will twist themselves into the most intricate pretzels to justify their hatred and to not have to face their own hypocrisy.
@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 Don't tunnel-view on the bad. Fly higher and look over history. A gay couple having a baby in the sixties? Things are progressing. Slowly. But surely.
Glenn Beck calling Dave defective or flawed is jus so funny for me 😂😂
And dave is just nodding along...
Leopards Ate My Face...While I defend Leopards eating my face.
Always could hide under his other Persona Rave Dubin.
Your boss publicly just compared being gay to alcoholism? Wow. This seems like it should be illegal 🤔
I'm as left as it comes, but as soon as you start talking about illegalising speech, you lose me😂 that's mad authoritarian.
@@keelansquire I disagree, gay people used to be fired and many other horrible things. The law should protect vulnerable populations. I think that should include harassment. If comparing someone's secuality to a disease isn't harassment, I don't know what is. Harassment at work should not be legal.
@@cierralowery7096 I believe for something to qualify as harassment, there should be a clear and apparent pattern of behaviour of ill intent. Tbh in this situation you can't even pin down ill intent, Glen Beck seems to genuinely be trying to console Dave Rubin😂 just from the perspective of his own very warped worldview haha. At that point, what you'd be illegalising is ignorance. Which is a slippery slope.
Wow, his audience said he’s not worthy of having children? That’s terrible!
I know I shouldn't feel bad for Dave Rubin, it's just sad to see a guy so desperate for profit that he'll make a total ass of himself. He should have stayed a mediocre comedian.