Just going to mention that worms can survive in water for quite a while. Several weeks even. Worms don't have lungs and absorb oxygen through their skin, they can continue to absorb oxygen from under water too. Those worms won't be drowning from a day floating in water. It's more likely the worms are just very cold and not moving.
I'm no specialist and I'm no farmer but this simple northern bloke totally gets it. COME ON EA sort this out. Surly there is a simple cost effective solution to this TOTAL FARCE!
If there were, they still need money. From, oh, say, taxes. Which the conservative government don't want to raise. Or spend on agriculture, either, even if they got it. 'less there was a buddy who assured them they totes could clear the drainage...
I get it and it’s shocking! I love the gingers ranting because he’s right! And it would help the whole farming community. It’s not exactly difficult to start a pump it’s common sense! Thinking of you all at this frustrating time. #savetheworms
I always find your Dad is spot on in what he says, he is a very intelligent and experienced man - he is also very passionate about farming. Tom, you mentioned 'the new normal', although in jest you are closer than you realise. Your father will remember the catastrophic floods in Somerset that year, in fact there were lots of areas that flooded, but Somerset was in dire shape and it had a lot of media attention. At the time, faced with flooded fields and anaerobic conditions (as your father said) for months ahead, all were complaining that the agencies had neglected the dredging work that had been done all the years. Prior to this vital work, there were no such problems. Your father is also right in bringing in the 'environmental' aspect, as that is the reason for non action at every turn, then the resulting failure of that inaction is blamed on that gift that keeps on giving 'man made climate change/ global warming'. Your situation now is the same as Somerset's situation all those years ago. My view is that you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. The elites behind the 'new normal'/ Great Reset etc championed by the WEF (World Economic Forum) do not want conventional agriculture, in fact they want control of the food supply. They want people off the land and land 'returned to nature ', grants are then given out on the same basis as set aside for 'rewilding'. Yes it is farcical, but stick with me a moment. In the US, Bill Gates has acquired vast amounts of farm land, yet he is developing lab based food for consumption. More and more small farms are lost and absorbed into the land masses owned by elites, some farms are bought by people who genuinely believe in the 'rewilding' spiel. As for the rights of wildlife, the globalists have been quick to declare that they will euthanise vast numbers of animals to contain virus spread. (Mink in Denmark, pets in a radius if infected, birds in the UK - wild and farmed flocks due to bird flu). Yet, they are prepared to re-introduce species that can be detrimental to small scale farming due to losses. They are planning to re-introduce wolves in parts of Germany. If they continue there will be pressure on the food supply as crops fail and animal production is affected, this has another effect - pressure on the people. Control the food, control the people. However, instead of being honest about it, Brexit is used as a scapegoat, added to global warming for good effect. People need to see what is really going on. They planned to bring down supply chains in the second quarter - that would be catastrophic. As for the now, a large storm is forming off the US, at this point it is on a trajectory to hit us in the UK - let's hope it changes. I know one storm there was set to drop 2 years worth of rain in one. Might be interesting to see who recommends and owns the systems that you mentioned, a lot of these schemes benefit the people involved as opposed to the people that are meant to see the benefits from them. I think it needs people to come together to expose the underlying plans beneath the glossy 'pro environment/ pro climate' narrative that is hoodwinking people. Climate is constantly changing, it is cyclical.
Morning Tom/Ginger,you should send this video to the head of environmental agency/local council,two weeks of a slew cleaning out all your ditches would help you,plus any reseeding you have to do,send them a invoice for the labour/seeds as well.DO NOT STOP COMPLAINING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY,you boys are feeding this country!
Good video. Provides people with a good insight. Hopefully they will know that floods = unworkable land =less food available. That's a good point to try and put across
I still stand by what my Dad said for year's and can remember him doing them. We need to get back to cleaning drains and ditches out in fields, road sides etc
The problem isn't so much the drains, but management of the gates that regulate the flow only after the fact the whole place is like a pond. I think Pembertons understand everything must be done in the round, but without additional supervision it will always going to be to late. I think the gates were introduced to reduce the need of manpower, but they have no manpower at all. Yes the banks, wildlife, are important, but do not stand alone in that regard, they are reliant on things all around as well. They don't choose to live next to oceans but ditches.
I really think everyone goes to school when the ginger guy takes the mic. I love all the information he has and he is such a passionate advocate for responsible farming and sustainable agriculture. Tom, you really do have one of the best mentors possible to give you the practical knowledge you need to succeed.
I have to agree with The Ginger Warier 100%. The problem is that the person who designed the drainage system thinks that what they were taught for their Degree is set in stone. They are sat in a totally different part of the country/world and don't have the local knowledge to deal with a local issues. They don't listen to the locals who have a better knowledge of what is needed to solve a problem. There is an old carpenters saying, 'the boss may drive a Jag and have a degree, but can they hang a door!'
@@nancysmith-baker3827 No, Tom's dad doesn't know. Not because he's an idiot. He absolutely doesn't have the information and time to go over it, nor the education to solve the problem. I could show you a diagram of a faulty nuclear rod control program and you would not be able to deduce what the error is. I could show you the hydrological reports of the UK and you would require a large transit van to carry the documents, and still be unable to work out how to solve this problem. Instead of complaining about the people who have trained to do this, try doing their job. See how easy it is when all you do is armchair.
@@nancysmith-baker3827 If you can't look, for time, resources, or a self acknowledged lack of the specifically needed education, appealing to authority is no fallacy. Refusing to listen to authority would itself be the fallacy: the fallacists fallacy. You don't find someone who is also uneducated and assume that because they know something, they know enough. That leads to the "well, a bloke down the pub told me...".
Just to put things into context, my Father was a Civil Engineer. With over 40 years experience and local knowledge he got sick of telling the newbies with their university degrees that their scheme wouldn't work in particular situations. But they still went ahead only to find a few years down the line they would find they had wasted tax payers money and rip it all out again!
Your dad is absolutely spot on with what he was saying, got to get a petition going, a discussion with local land owners, and take it forward to the EA, that can not carry on, farming is tough enough as it is on a good day, but with land/crops lost that regularly, you will see more and more smaller farms falling victim. We need to support the smaller local farms/farmers as much as possible, and letting land flood like this is doing the opposite.
Tom.. your Dad is spot on!! He is speaking so much wisdom!!!! From Oklahoma USA ❤️ Ps.. where I live is in a flood plane. There is a city park about 2 miles down steam if us that did some major park clean up. By the park being cleaned up (meaning the drainage creek that runs through the park), our home and property was not flooded on the last big rain. Listen to your Dad... Is no fun having to deal with the after effects of your home after a flooding.
No need for drawings, Ginger Warrior is crystal clear. Tom, can we write to anyone to help solve this? Is there an adress for the EA that regulates the pumps?
Great video as usual Tom. Your father made the point that the ditch was widened. That's one problem, water doesn't flow as well in a wide ditch/drain (as we call it parts of Ireland ). You and the farming community really need to the government to take their finger out and do something to help you all. 🖒
Your dad spoke so much sense that should have gone out on National tv . It may not be houses but farms keep feeding this country thank you for your service. You guys should be on country file. Keep the videos coming
We farm arable crops in Scarisbrick on the SW Lancashire Plain, I clean our ditches every year, as my father did before me. But we have flooding like never before, the ditches are full and our field drains are under water because the EA won't keep the pumps running enough. Ditches down stream from us, and at the back of the houses, haven't been cleaned out for years because you can't get a digger anywhere near them anymore because home owners have made fancy gardens and conservatories etc. The culvert under the Leeds to Liverpool canal needs cleaning but no one is interested. It makes a farce out of me cleaning our stretch of ditch every year because all it is doing now is creating a sump. The people in charge of the EA either don't understand or just don't care. They're only interested in attracting wild birds and neuts etc. Farming doesn't seem to matter. I fully agree with everything your dad said in the video.
Tom completely agree with your Dad drains and waterways need to be maintained from the source to the estuary...its a huge problem here in Ireland also and getting worse every year...love to see that video in a few weeks time of the water gates and silt issue...keep up the good work
Who needs the Andrew Marr show on a Sunday morning, when you have the Pemberton's! Brilliant, I really, really enjoyed this, thank you Tom & the Ginger Warrior. 👍
I'm not in the farming industry, and only started watching your channel maybe last year. Your videos have given me an insight of what goes on in a dairy farm. I love it. I always come back for more. (My mums father had a horse and cart, and one of my uncles used to own shire horses. And I have 25 years of fishing [mostly rivers] and have wondered into fields with horses, sheep and cows. That's all I know of farm animals). I love the study of floods and the flood catchment etc and would have a career in it if I could!....I love it when you both rant, it lets something off your chest and hopefully someone out there will watch your videos and say to themselves that someone has to be done.................Maybe it's time to take action with the Environment Agency and get something done, with the ditch/drainage channel and flood gates, for when the floods come. Get your local farmers together with the EA and have a talk about it, and see what can be done and see if you can come to an agreement?.........Would love to see the follow-up video :)
I couldn't be further away from having farming knowledge but everything you and the Ginger Warrior said made perfect sense to me. And it is echoing exactly what farmers have been saying here in the west country about ditches not being maintained. Someone, somewhere is saving money by doing things the was they are but it's a false economy in my eyes.
I 100% agree with what your dad was saying! His assessment of the problem and his solution. His experience working the land is worth far more than these “experts” sitting in an office.
Is always a joy to listen to your father putting his point across. You have created yourself a fantastic platform...... use it... The EA need to listen, country wide
Is it your responsibility to maintain the creek on your property? I love seeing your Dad’s passion for the land and the cows, yours also shows when he’s teaching. I could watch and listen all day. 💗
Land owners are not allowed to touch land drains like these. The EA are meant to maintain them. Unfortunately, the EA are not fit for purpose so areas like this are left to suffer. We had much the same problem in Somerset until a few years ago when the EA finally pulled their collective fingers out of whatever orifice they'd been hiding them in and dredged some of the rhynes (land drains). Made a blooming mess of the job but at least the water clears now.
No, the Environment Agency has taken over & all drainage ditches are controlled by them. It worked so much better when farmers were able to clear the ditches on their land.
SAVE THE WORMS,SAVE THE WORMS,SAVE THE WORMS!!!! You are spot on. Soil life is so critical to sustainable agriculture,most non ag people just see it as dirt, instead of a living ,breathing environment needed for healthy food production.
Diversify, water buffalo and ducks. Seriously though. It's heartbreaking that those in power don't listen. They'd rather flood farms than homes instead of addressing the issues properly and saving both.
Addressing the issue would piss off farmers and building companies, neither of which want the things done that will be required (such as reforesting uplands, not building on flat land, taking abandoned houses and renewing them to use as council housing, etc), and it would cost money, which everyone would complain about. You vote IN incompetents because they won't increase taxes. You get incompetents who will let farms flood because they listen only to the complainers who have pots of cash. To be fair to them, no matter WHAT they do, there will be thousands screaming their heads off at "ebil gubmint doing a bad". We, the public, have TAUGHT our politicians to be spineless cowards unwilling to do what is necessary.
Hey guys , i'm from east frisia in north west germany, we have clay-ground, only gras land some very moister pasture fields .we must dregde the ditches . We have 240acres land and the fields are 20acres great . In our country is a water-bandage witch maintains many central ditches an pumps the water with little Archimedean screw-pumps in channel -(ditches) and at the north sea Coast are two great pumping Stations who pumped the water into the north sea . It costs us yearly 50euro per hectar. 1 hectar = 3acres . We had in 2020 750 millimeter rain . Thats normal for us but the last Summers and this year are too dry . The rain comes in autumn and winter . Good luck for you in next days and time that the water will going swiftly away !!! Nice greetings from Bert P.s. the water bandage cleans the central ditches all year out from the reeds. All 4 years cleaned the Trench Button of the ditch .
Good luck lads, hopefully you and you’re neighbors can find a solution to you’re common problem and hopefully the government hears you’re side and does something to help. 🤞
Man I love your Dad. Very knowledgeable on the subject of farming. I think in this video I gained more insight on the flooding and the situation that your farm and other farmers are in around your area. All I can say us wow and that I am much impressed by your Father. Every video I learn something new. Every video I gain knowledge about what it is like being an English farmer. And your trials and tribulations. Have a Great week!!
Why don't you take your cameras to the pumping station and do a video on it and come up with the pros and cons and maybe you'll get some attention.. I'd like to see it. Maybe it would make it on your local TVs.
Yeah great idea, it would be good to have the whole canal system explained in a bit more detail. We have nothing like that over here on the east coast of Aus
The pumps will be set to pump within certain limit. This will be determined by a water level management plan, and the level at which PROPERTY flooding occurs. The EA being a publicly funded body has to justify every pound spent, as such the pumps will only run draw the water down where there is a cost-risk benefit, based on risk to people and property. Unfortunately for farmers, funding can’t be obtained just to drain land in most cases. It’s the same with de-silting, it risk based funding and if the benefit can’t be shown, it won’t get done unless within a formal flood defence scheme. The low lying nature of the land means that even on intertidal flow, there isn’t the head of water to open the tidal flap gates more than a few feet so it will never freely flow out unrestricted.
Great video Tom and Ginge.I think the problem is the EA centralised the drainage system and got rid of all the internal drainage boards which had dedicated area's and local people who new how the local systems worked.
That is by far the best video ye have ever made.let the power of social media apply the correct amount of sustained pressure to get the pumping station and the gates sorted.keep on it
Us Yanks sometimes have trouble understanding you Blokes but I think you're trying to say that fast moving water, due to specific gravity, will pull water that's running into. It can actually pull up a slight incline. Some farmers over here create grass waterways between their fields that help drain water. They mow and bale the grass and use it to have access to the fields. It keeps from compacting the field. There is a site called Dodge brothers farm and ranch that explains this.
Just a thought on this, do you think with the extra housing, industrial estates ect are covering open land were water used to drain and putting the water off these area's straight into storm water systems.
Could listen to your dad talk sense for hours!! Watched this video with my father as we are all about the same age and started a great conversation about environmental issues now compared to 25-30 years ago. Get yourself and your dad a podcast on all issues involving farming and the environment!! SAVE THE WORMS!!
That is a great episode idea Tom. You and your father explaining/discussing the problems with the current drainage system. It could help to expose the issue and possibly provide a simple and do-able pro-active plan for the existing pumping system.
I loved listening to the ginger guy. His passion for the land and its proper care shows when he speaks. I'll be following this from Canada. We are frozen her so we have too shovel our rain! Lol
7:03 Your dad reminds me alot of a man I started working with last year (the dad of my best friend). These old timers are a library of knowledge we are privileged to gain access to. You can hear the frustration of them knowing the solution to big problems yet being forced to partake in flawed practices generated by "modern" thinking. Particularly computer controlled systems like the drainage pumps your dad was on about here. We can (and should) learn so much from them while we can! Hope the fields dries out soon lads.
Has your dad got any photos of olden days lol would be cool to have a look to see how the farm was would make a good Sunday video him talking about it.
Great video well said, happening all over the country all we get is block up the Ditches to save the houses, be better to clean ditches so we have capacity when we get bad weather
Maybe worth planting some knotted willows on your fields? They're trees that love a lot moisture and soak up a lot of it too. It may not help a whole lot with winter flooding but will definitely help in spring, summer and autumn. Their root system is also great for soil structure and soil life. It's a form of agroforestry basically, where you plant rows of trees in your field and you farm between them. Obvously you can play around with how far apart you put those rows and how much place you leave between the trees. Usually you can get subsidies for planting and maintaining them, as well as other benefits: knotted willow trees can produce large amounts of smallwood which you can sell as woodchips or use as firewood. This won't solve your winter flooding problem entirely, but it's something you can do yourself without having to rely on politicians or the EA and the like. Maybe worth a small trial? Would love to hear your thoughts!
Love listening to the ginger warrior, so knowledgeable, if only people in authority listened to knowing and common sense learnt through years of hard graft!
Here in the US the people who are opposed to field tile don’t understand that the nutrients get filtered out of the water when it flows through the soil and out the tile. When the land stays flooded, that’s when nutrients get into the water through surface runoff. We have pumps on our farm and thankfully we are in full control of them so we can run them when they need to be run. Good luck to you Pembertons!
@@limerickman8512 As an American I may have misunderstood what you said, (after all we don't even speak the queens English) but is sounds to me like you said you have a fake news problem Brittan.
@@love2scoobysnack I am not from the UK, but yes, the BBC is fake news. Look up their long history of covering up leftist supported individuals and groups who rape vulnerable children. For example child abuse by Jimmy Saville and they support of Jimmy. The BBC initial reports about massive grooming gangs raping children who were in council care. The BBC initially called the whistle-blowers racist and denied the mass rapes. Once the rapes became public knowledge they downplayed it and still called people racist for talking about the massive child rapes, rather that look for firing of council and justice officals and for allow this massive child rapes continue for a decade plus. That on top they constant attacks on any person or groups who exposed leftist abuses in soceity.
The way you explained this problem in the video was so interesting. So many things that us non ag people don’t think about that you all have to deal with. Thanks to both of you for taking the time out of your days to explain to us. You make some amazing points, a shame red tape holds things up. Sometimes automation isn’t what is needed, some local understanding coupled with the pump system would work better than an automatic pump.
@@TomPembertonFarmLife You can not get a more strait talking bloke as much as i would love to see you dad on the Local, Town or even County council they would not let him as he does not mince his words. Total respet to him. I am sure he has some Yorkshire within him.
This is an incredible example of the real life impact of engineering decisions. Hope the drainage people get their stuff together and fixes things. Would love to see the update in a few weeks.
Because that's selfish on everyone else, that's the exact reason we're all under water because of idiots like you who can only think of themselves, It';s nothing to do with not pumping fast enough
@@jabtothehead9942 well that was only a question, no need for name calling. Just showing a intrest in what happens there. sry if your offended in any way.
The people in charge should be listening to the farmers what they need done to help them work to capacity! You guys feed us and are far more important than any politician
@@JamesWilson-gw2ij it's all about working with the climate in trying to compensate the changes. Working with our environment to cope, like they said, pump out the water early, dredge the rivers, clean drains and rebuild banks.
We have the opposite problem here in Australia, I remember as a kid there were places you wouldn't even walk because of wet, boggy land but 30 years later we have no hesitation driving across the same spot, no 4x4 required. These days if we get 1/2 an inch of rain in a day it's been a good day, if we get an inch in a week it's been a great week. Our 20 year rainfall average is so much lower than our 100 year average.
Thanks for the video. In the last 10 years my land in Northern Minnesota has had 3, 100 year rain events flooding roads out and doing extensive damage downstream. The weather has become more volatile to be sure, in the middle of a large continent it's mostly been heavier than normal storms.
Use the platform you have to start an online petition for the relevant body. You have so many ppl subscribed to help support you with this. Peace & love
Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Worms (RSPCW), nice ring to it.
I'm in...where do I send my Subs?
Ring, worm, I see what you did there
Just going to mention that worms can survive in water for quite a while. Several weeks even. Worms don't have lungs and absorb oxygen through their skin, they can continue to absorb oxygen from under water too. Those worms won't be drowning from a day floating in water. It's more likely the worms are just very cold and not moving.
Save The Worms. Start a GoFundMe page.
@job berry frith Knowledge isn't for everyone.
Completely agree with the ginger warrior they need to adjust the pump levels. No excuses it’s not difficult to do. ( drainage surveyor & engineer)
After doing zero actual research...... I bet you are good at your job LOL
@@snarkymcsnarkles3493 thankfully I am otherwise I wouldn’t of said it. Hopefully your good at whatever you do.
As he says the door flaps need to be checked.
@@mattppollard4531 You used the wrong you're. So i doubt it.
@@iansmartel5473 Ive heard that ginger say some of the worst and dumbest things, so who knows what it actually needs.
Loved listening to your dad Tom he absolutely hit the nail on the head totally agree with every word he said
Are you Irish
I agree with ur dad Tom to. From Ohio united states
I'm no specialist and I'm no farmer but this simple northern bloke totally gets it. COME ON EA sort this out. Surly there is a simple cost effective solution to this TOTAL FARCE!
I’m not brain of Britain but I understood it so must have been explained well
If there were, they still need money. From, oh, say, taxes. Which the conservative government don't want to raise. Or spend on agriculture, either, even if they got it.
'less there was a buddy who assured them they totes could clear the drainage...
the EA are clowns
I get it and it’s shocking! I love the gingers ranting because he’s right! And it would help the whole farming community. It’s not exactly difficult to start a pump it’s common sense! Thinking of you all at this frustrating time. #savetheworms
I always find your Dad is spot on in what he says, he is a very intelligent and experienced man - he is also very passionate about farming. Tom, you mentioned 'the new normal', although in jest you are closer than you realise. Your father will remember the catastrophic floods in Somerset that year, in fact there were lots of areas that flooded, but Somerset was in dire shape and it had a lot of media attention. At the time, faced with flooded fields and anaerobic conditions (as your father said) for months ahead, all were complaining that the agencies had neglected the dredging work that had been done all the years. Prior to this vital work, there were no such problems. Your father is also right in bringing in the 'environmental' aspect, as that is the reason for non action at every turn, then the resulting failure of that inaction is blamed on that gift that keeps on giving 'man made climate change/ global warming'. Your situation now is the same as Somerset's situation all those years ago. My view is that you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. The elites behind the 'new normal'/ Great Reset etc championed by the WEF (World Economic Forum) do not want conventional agriculture, in fact they want control of the food supply. They want people off the land and land 'returned to nature ', grants are then given out on the same basis as set aside for 'rewilding'. Yes it is farcical, but stick with me a moment. In the US, Bill Gates has acquired vast amounts of farm land, yet he is developing lab based food for consumption. More and more small farms are lost and absorbed into the land masses owned by elites, some farms are bought by people who genuinely believe in the 'rewilding' spiel. As for the rights of wildlife, the globalists have been quick to declare that they will euthanise vast numbers of animals to contain virus spread. (Mink in Denmark, pets in a radius if infected, birds in the UK - wild and farmed flocks due to bird flu). Yet, they are prepared to re-introduce species that can be detrimental to small scale farming due to losses. They are planning to re-introduce wolves in parts of Germany. If they continue there will be pressure on the food supply as crops fail and animal production is affected, this has another effect - pressure on the people. Control the food, control the people. However, instead of being honest about it, Brexit is used as a scapegoat, added to global warming for good effect. People need to see what is really going on. They planned to bring down supply chains in the second quarter - that would be catastrophic.
As for the now, a large storm is forming off the US, at this point it is on a trajectory to hit us in the UK - let's hope it changes. I know one storm there was set to drop 2 years worth of rain in one.
Might be interesting to see who recommends and owns the systems that you mentioned, a lot of these schemes benefit the people involved as opposed to the people that are meant to see the benefits from them.
I think it needs people to come together to expose the underlying plans beneath the glossy 'pro environment/ pro climate' narrative that is hoodwinking people. Climate is constantly changing, it is cyclical.
Morning Tom/Ginger,you should send this video to the head of environmental agency/local council,two weeks of a slew cleaning out all your ditches would help you,plus any reseeding you have to do,send them a invoice for the labour/seeds as well.DO NOT STOP COMPLAINING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY,you boys are feeding this country!
Good video. Provides people with a good insight. Hopefully they will know that floods = unworkable land =less food available. That's a good point to try and put across
I still stand by what my Dad said for year's and can remember him doing them.
We need to get back to cleaning drains and ditches out in fields, road sides etc
Yes D itchs and drains get forgotten
The problem isn't so much the drains, but management of the gates that regulate the flow only after the fact the whole place is like a pond. I think Pembertons understand everything must be done in the round, but without additional supervision it will always going to be to late. I think the gates were introduced to reduce the need of manpower, but they have no manpower at all. Yes the banks, wildlife, are important, but do not stand alone in that regard, they are reliant on things all around as well. They don't choose to live next to oceans but ditches.
I really think everyone goes to school when the ginger guy takes the mic. I love all the information he has and he is such a passionate advocate for responsible farming and sustainable agriculture. Tom, you really do have one of the best mentors possible to give you the practical knowledge you need to succeed.
I have to agree with The Ginger Warier 100%. The problem is that the person who designed the drainage system thinks that what they were taught for their Degree is set in stone. They are sat in a totally different part of the country/world and don't have the local knowledge to deal with a local issues. They don't listen to the locals who have a better knowledge of what is needed to solve a problem. There is an old carpenters saying, 'the boss may drive a Jag and have a degree, but can they hang a door!'
You think you know what they think.
You don't.
@@nancysmith-baker3827 No, Tom's dad doesn't know. Not because he's an idiot. He absolutely doesn't have the information and time to go over it, nor the education to solve the problem.
I could show you a diagram of a faulty nuclear rod control program and you would not be able to deduce what the error is.
I could show you the hydrological reports of the UK and you would require a large transit van to carry the documents, and still be unable to work out how to solve this problem.
Instead of complaining about the people who have trained to do this, try doing their job.
See how easy it is when all you do is armchair.
@@nancysmith-baker3827 If you can't look, for time, resources, or a self acknowledged lack of the specifically needed education, appealing to authority is no fallacy. Refusing to listen to authority would itself be the fallacy: the fallacists fallacy.
You don't find someone who is also uneducated and assume that because they know something, they know enough. That leads to the "well, a bloke down the pub told me...".
No the boss just pays someone to do it for him properly..
Just to put things into context, my Father was a Civil Engineer. With over 40 years experience and local knowledge he got sick of telling the newbies with their university degrees that their scheme wouldn't work in particular situations. But they still went ahead only to find a few years down the line they would find they had wasted tax payers money and rip it all out again!
Your dad is absolutely spot on with what he was saying, got to get a petition going, a discussion with local land owners, and take it forward to the EA, that can not carry on, farming is tough enough as it is on a good day, but with land/crops lost that regularly, you will see more and more smaller farms falling victim. We need to support the smaller local farms/farmers as much as possible, and letting land flood like this is doing the opposite.
I've got no farming background at all Tom and I get it. It's just common sense at the end of the day!
Common sense is neither common, nor sensible.
@@markhackett2302 can see you don't have any!
Tom.. your Dad is spot on!!
He is speaking so much wisdom!!!!
From Oklahoma USA ❤️
Ps.. where I live is in a flood plane. There is a city park about 2 miles down steam if us that did some major park clean up.
By the park being cleaned up (meaning the drainage creek that runs through the park), our home and property was not flooded on the last big rain.
Listen to your Dad... Is no fun having to deal with the after effects of your home after a flooding.
No need for drawings, Ginger Warrior is crystal clear.
Tom, can we write to anyone to help solve this? Is there an adress for the EA that regulates the pumps?
TOM your father is SPOT ON .... I dont think youre listening close enough to him ...!!!! ...his EXPERIENCE is sooooo valuable !!!!
Great video as usual Tom.
Your father made the point that the ditch was widened. That's one problem, water doesn't flow as well in a wide ditch/drain (as we call it parts of Ireland ).
You and the farming community really need to the government to take their finger out and do something to help you all. 🖒
Your dad spoke so much sense that should have gone out on National tv . It may not be houses but farms keep feeding this country thank you for your service. You guys should be on country file. Keep the videos coming
I think they need to start dredging all the rivers again, to get all on the silt out etc
We farm arable crops in Scarisbrick on the SW Lancashire Plain, I clean our ditches every year, as my father did before me. But we have flooding like never before, the ditches are full and our field drains are under water because the EA won't keep the pumps running enough. Ditches down stream from us, and at the back of the houses, haven't been cleaned out for years because you can't get a digger anywhere near them anymore because home owners have made fancy gardens and conservatories etc. The culvert under the Leeds to Liverpool canal needs cleaning but no one is interested. It makes a farce out of me cleaning our stretch of ditch every year because all it is doing now is creating a sump. The people in charge of the EA either don't understand or just don't care. They're only interested in attracting wild birds and neuts etc. Farming doesn't seem to matter. I fully agree with everything your dad said in the video.
Great video. I would like to see a video of the pumps etc. Flooding is awful for anyone but on farm you get on the land to do anything.
Tom completely agree with your Dad drains and waterways need to be maintained from the source to the estuary...its a huge problem here in Ireland also and getting worse every year...love to see that video in a few weeks time of the water gates and silt issue...keep up the good work
EA needs to hire the Ginger Warrior, more sense than the whole lot of them
Sorry your experiencing such a mess. Love that your dad had a great word
Who needs the Andrew Marr show on a Sunday morning, when you have the Pemberton's! Brilliant, I really, really enjoyed this, thank you Tom & the Ginger Warrior. 👍
I'm not in the farming industry, and only started watching your channel maybe last year. Your videos have given me an insight of what goes on in a dairy farm. I love it. I always come back for more. (My mums father had a horse and cart, and one of my uncles used to own shire horses. And I have 25 years of fishing [mostly rivers] and have wondered into fields with horses, sheep and cows. That's all I know of farm animals). I love the study of floods and the flood catchment etc and would have a career in it if I could!....I love it when you both rant, it lets something off your chest and hopefully someone out there will watch your videos and say to themselves that someone has to be done.................Maybe it's time to take action with the Environment Agency and get something done, with the ditch/drainage channel and flood gates, for when the floods come. Get your local farmers together with the EA and have a talk about it, and see what can be done and see if you can come to an agreement?.........Would love to see the follow-up video :)
I couldn't be further away from having farming knowledge but everything you and the Ginger Warrior said made perfect sense to me. And it is echoing exactly what farmers have been saying here in the west country about ditches not being maintained. Someone, somewhere is saving money by doing things the was they are but it's a false economy in my eyes.
I 100% agree with what your dad was saying! His assessment of the problem and his solution. His experience working the land is worth far more than these “experts” sitting in an office.
Sounds like a new slogan for some TP merch. SAVE THE WORMS .
Is always a joy to listen to your father putting his point across. You have created yourself a fantastic platform...... use it... The EA need to listen, country wide
Lovely Sunday video Tom👍😁
I would be very interested to see where all the water goes and your father is absolutely positively great to listen to
Another amazing video tom! Your dads such a hoot! Gotta love him.
So good you and your dad work so well together. Sorry about the rain, but you have a good attitude! Love your videos!!
Is it your responsibility to maintain the creek on your property? I love seeing your Dad’s passion for the land and the cows, yours also shows when he’s teaching. I could watch and listen all day. 💗
Land owners are not allowed to touch land drains like these. The EA are meant to maintain them. Unfortunately, the EA are not fit for purpose so areas like this are left to suffer. We had much the same problem in Somerset until a few years ago when the EA finally pulled their collective fingers out of whatever orifice they'd been hiding them in and dredged some of the rhynes (land drains). Made a blooming mess of the job but at least the water clears now.
No, the Environment Agency has taken over & all drainage ditches are controlled by them. It worked so much better when farmers were able to clear the ditches on their land.
@@lorlorslinger9617 yearly maintenance by the farmers makes more sense. 🤦🏼♀️
SAVE THE WORMS,SAVE THE WORMS,SAVE THE WORMS!!!! You are spot on. Soil life is so critical to sustainable agriculture,most non ag people just see it as dirt, instead of a living ,breathing environment needed for healthy food production.
Diversify, water buffalo and ducks. Seriously though. It's heartbreaking that those in power don't listen. They'd rather flood farms than homes instead of addressing the issues properly and saving both.
"Diversify, water buffalo and ducks".........................Rice?
Been plenty of ducks there in past videos
Addressing the issue would piss off farmers and building companies, neither of which want the things done that will be required (such as reforesting uplands, not building on flat land, taking abandoned houses and renewing them to use as council housing, etc), and it would cost money, which everyone would complain about.
You vote IN incompetents because they won't increase taxes.
You get incompetents who will let farms flood because they listen only to the complainers who have pots of cash. To be fair to them, no matter WHAT they do, there will be thousands screaming their heads off at "ebil gubmint doing a bad". We, the public, have TAUGHT our politicians to be spineless cowards unwilling to do what is necessary.
Hey guys , i'm from east frisia in north west germany, we have clay-ground,
only gras land some very moister pasture fields .we must dregde the ditches . We have 240acres land and the fields are 20acres great .
In our country is a water-bandage witch maintains many central ditches an pumps the water with little Archimedean screw-pumps in channel -(ditches) and at the north sea Coast are two great pumping Stations who pumped the water into the north sea .
It costs us yearly 50euro per hectar.
1 hectar = 3acres .
We had in 2020 750 millimeter rain .
Thats normal for us but the last Summers and this year are too dry .
The rain comes in autumn and winter .
Good luck for you in next days and time that the water will going swiftly away !!!
Nice greetings from Bert
P.s. the water bandage cleans the central ditches all year out from the reeds.
All 4 years cleaned the Trench Button of the ditch .
Got to love your dad Tom what a guy
I'll listen to your Father rant any day,I am always so much better informed each time .
Good luck lads, hopefully you and you’re neighbors can find a solution to you’re common problem and hopefully the government hears you’re side and does something to help. 🤞
Great video, I feel your pain. Real honesty, we're all hoping for better weather to dry things up.
Would be great with a video of the pump station 👍👍
Man I love your Dad. Very knowledgeable on the subject of farming. I think in this video I gained more insight on the flooding and the situation that your farm and other farmers are in around your area. All I can say us wow and that I am much impressed by your Father. Every video I learn something new. Every video I gain knowledge about what it is like being an English farmer. And your trials and tribulations. Have a Great week!!
Would be good to see the pump station that the EA spent millions on and don’t know how to operate it properly. Sounds like most Goverment agency’s!
Why don't you take your cameras to the pumping station and do a video on it and come up with the pros and cons and maybe you'll get some attention.. I'd like to see it. Maybe it would make it on your local TVs.
Yeah great idea, it would be good to have the whole canal system explained in a bit more detail. We have nothing like that over here on the east coast of Aus
Would be good to see how you know they don't know how to operate properly. Asspull?
@@markhackett2302 you are clearly as thick as two short planks!
The pumps will be set to pump within certain limit. This will be determined by a water level management plan, and the level at which PROPERTY flooding occurs. The EA being a publicly funded body has to justify every pound spent, as such the pumps will only run draw the water down where there is a cost-risk benefit, based on risk to people and property. Unfortunately for farmers, funding can’t be obtained just to drain land in most cases. It’s the same with de-silting, it risk based funding and if the benefit can’t be shown, it won’t get done unless within a formal flood defence scheme.
The low lying nature of the land means that even on intertidal flow, there isn’t the head of water to open the tidal flap gates more than a few feet so it will never freely flow out unrestricted.
Great video Tom and Ginge.I think the problem is the EA centralised the drainage system and got rid of all the internal drainage boards which had dedicated area's and local people who new how the local systems worked.
That is by far the best video ye have ever made.let the power of social media apply the correct amount of sustained pressure to get the pumping station and the gates sorted.keep on it
Us Yanks sometimes have trouble understanding you Blokes but I think you're trying to say that fast moving water, due to specific gravity, will pull water that's running into. It can actually pull up a slight incline. Some farmers over here create grass waterways between their fields that help drain water. They mow and bale the grass and use it to have access to the fields. It keeps from compacting the field. There is a site called Dodge brothers farm and ranch that explains this.
Just a thought on this, do you think with the extra housing, industrial estates ect are covering open land were water used to drain and putting the water off these area's straight into storm water systems.
Could listen to your dad talk sense for hours!! Watched this video with my father as we are all about the same age and started a great conversation about environmental issues now compared to 25-30 years ago. Get yourself and your dad a podcast on all issues involving farming and the environment!! SAVE THE WORMS!!
The E A have a duty of care to protect your farm I think get a key to the pumps 🚜👍🏴
That is a great episode idea Tom. You and your father explaining/discussing the problems with the current drainage system. It could help to expose the issue and possibly provide a simple and do-able pro-active plan for the existing pumping system.
I think your video should be used for the curriculum. What a man your dad is. He is so wise. Thanks for this, another great video.😍😷🙂
I loved listening to the ginger guy. His passion for the land and its proper care shows when he speaks. I'll be following this from Canada. We are frozen her so we have too shovel our rain! Lol
would be interesting to see the gates
Me too, it's always fun to see how stuff works
Both of you explained this issue well. I wish you well in gaining a workable solution to this seemingly controllable problem.
i like youre dad talking, learn alot greetings from nl
7:03 Your dad reminds me alot of a man I started working with last year (the dad of my best friend). These old timers are a library of knowledge we are privileged to gain access to. You can hear the frustration of them knowing the solution to big problems yet being forced to partake in flawed practices generated by "modern" thinking. Particularly computer controlled systems like the drainage pumps your dad was on about here. We can (and should) learn so much from them while we can! Hope the fields dries out soon lads.
Has your dad got any photos of olden days lol would be cool to have a look to see how the farm was would make a good Sunday video him talking about it.
Great video well said, happening all over the country all we get is block up the Ditches to save the houses, be better to clean ditches so we have capacity when we get bad weather
Maybe show us a video of the tidal door? Could be interesting
Watching this video has just shown me how much the Ginge really knows, respect to you guys and I hope the ground sorts itself ASAP.
Best invite the Environment Agency for the next video.
Keep up the good work boys.
Yes my thoughts too, see what the reasoning is behind what seems their lack of water management
Maybe worth planting some knotted willows on your fields? They're trees that love a lot moisture and soak up a lot of it too. It may not help a whole lot with winter flooding but will definitely help in spring, summer and autumn. Their root system is also great for soil structure and soil life. It's a form of agroforestry basically, where you plant rows of trees in your field and you farm between them. Obvously you can play around with how far apart you put those rows and how much place you leave between the trees.
Usually you can get subsidies for planting and maintaining them, as well as other benefits: knotted willow trees can produce large amounts of smallwood which you can sell as woodchips or use as firewood.
This won't solve your winter flooding problem entirely, but it's something you can do yourself without having to rely on politicians or the EA and the like.
Maybe worth a small trial? Would love to hear your thoughts!
Love listening to the ginger warrior, so knowledgeable, if only people in authority listened to knowing and common sense learnt through years of hard graft!
Here in the US the people who are opposed to field tile don’t understand that the nutrients get filtered out of the water when it flows through the soil and out the tile. When the land stays flooded, that’s when nutrients get into the water through surface runoff. We have pumps on our farm and thankfully we are in full control of them so we can run them when they need to be run. Good luck to you Pembertons!
Why do I think you wouldn't see the EA at all unless they found effluent or slurry in it and then they would be there on mass to hand out fines
Yes, please make that video! We'd love to see. You both so amazing and informative!
Tom call the environment agency out get the BBC on the farm then let your dad have rant you need make them listen
The BBC are part of the problem.
@@limerickman8512 As an American I may have misunderstood what you said, (after all we don't even speak the queens English) but is sounds to me like you said you have a fake news problem Brittan.
@@love2scoobysnack Same on you have in the USA: people who aren't getting told what they want to hear cry "FAKE NEWS!"
@@love2scoobysnack I am not from the UK, but yes, the BBC is fake news. Look up their long history of covering up leftist supported individuals and groups who rape vulnerable children. For example child abuse by Jimmy Saville and they support of Jimmy.
The BBC initial reports about massive grooming gangs raping children who were in council care. The BBC initially called the whistle-blowers racist and denied the mass rapes. Once the rapes became public knowledge they downplayed it and still called people racist for talking about the massive child rapes, rather that look for firing of council and justice officals and for allow this massive child rapes continue for a decade plus.
That on top they constant attacks on any person or groups who exposed leftist abuses in soceity.
My dad worked as a citrus farmer for years. I always appreciate the perspective of farmers from other countries. Sending lots of love!
Basic Hydrodynamics lesson, courtesy of the Pembertons.
The way you explained this problem in the video was so interesting. So many things that us non ag people don’t think about that you all have to deal with. Thanks to both of you for taking the time out of your days to explain to us. You make some amazing points, a shame red tape holds things up. Sometimes automation isn’t what is needed, some local understanding coupled with the pump system would work better than an automatic pump.
Wow your dads really getting into it. Go Ging Power.
Beautiful sky as you are walking
Interesting video Tom, basically the environment agency need to get there act together!
Good job Tom and Ginge. Bring on that update.
the Ginger warrier should get on the council or run for mp in area he would get things done!!!
Get him on the council 👍
@@TomPembertonFarmLife You can not get a more strait talking bloke as much as i would love to see you dad on the Local, Town or even County council they would not let him as he does not mince his words. Total respet to him. I am sure he has some Yorkshire within him.
So sorry to see so much water everywhere. Sending good thoughts and prayers for your farm❤️
Fair play to the ginger warrior he says it as it is.
This is an incredible example of the real life impact of engineering decisions. Hope the drainage people get their stuff together and fixes things. Would love to see the update in a few weeks.
Hi tom, would be really interesting to see these pumps and gates your dad is on about, might even shame the council to do sumat.
Aweee I feel for you!
Storm Christoph has caused so much flooding. all Warrington is flooded! So many friends have lost their homes because of it!
why do you not install one way valves into your ground lines? We have them here, gates that prevent water going the wrong way?
Because that's selfish on everyone else, that's the exact reason we're all under water because of idiots like you who can only think of themselves, It';s nothing to do with not pumping fast enough
@@jabtothehead9942 well that was only a question, no need for name calling. Just showing a intrest in what happens there. sry if your offended in any way.
Your dad definitely makes some great points cant imagine the frustration u guys have
*OMG!* You need a boat to get across that meadow! Hope it improves soon.. save those floating worms!! 🐛🐛
The people in charge should be listening to the farmers what they need done to help them work to capacity! You guys feed us and are far more important than any politician
Why haven’t you invited the EA to a TH-cam zoom meeting so you and the ginger ninja can put your questions to them?
have you ever tried talking to a brick
EA specalists !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you tried talking to ea
You just as well go and talking to someone who can't talk your own language you'd get on better !
Because they won't come, and if they do they won't listen.
Have you thought about the fact that it’s out of control? Just shouting at someone from a government agency isn’t going to stop climate change
@@JamesWilson-gw2ij it's all about working with the climate in trying to compensate the changes. Working with our environment to cope, like they said, pump out the water early, dredge the rivers, clean drains and rebuild banks.
Just had an Agriculture 101 lesson listening to your Dad. ❤️❤️.
Love Ginger. He is so right.
Excellent discussion, many thanks. And thanks for the shout-out for the arable guys.
would be good seeing the gates mabey you could get in with some waders and a spade
Great video Tom. I understand your frustrations. Let's look at it in a couple weeks.
Love your dad. He needs to have his own podcast! lol
We have the opposite problem here in Australia, I remember as a kid there were places you wouldn't even walk because of wet, boggy land but 30 years later we have no hesitation driving across the same spot, no 4x4 required. These days if we get 1/2 an inch of rain in a day it's been a good day, if we get an inch in a week it's been a great week. Our 20 year rainfall average is so much lower than our 100 year average.
Honestly it's unacceptable the amount of flooding England experiences every year.
Thanks for the video. In the last 10 years my land in Northern Minnesota has had 3, 100 year rain events flooding roads out and doing extensive damage downstream. The weather has become more volatile to be sure, in the middle of a large continent it's mostly been heavier than normal storms.
Use the platform you have to start an online petition for the relevant body. You have so many ppl subscribed to help support you with this. Peace & love
This is actually what gives me the power to stay alive. Well done Pemberton's, awesome job!!!
Seems so strange coming from Australia where we try to slow down the water in order to feed the land. You’ve got too much, and we don’t have enough 😅
Silly question, but does the local farmer have any representation with EA, or can local farmers get involved in clearing silt from flood doors?
nope