It is a weird double-edged sword to be honest. Subscriptions are done purely for greed from a business perspective, but it has opened up the legal use of software for many individual artists. The average artist can't afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars upfront for software. On the flip side of this, it is much harder to pirate subscription-based software. I will mention that style 3d currently gives free trials for individual use and they will keep extending the trials for essentially however long as you ask. When the trial ends you can just reach out to them and say you still want to use the software and they will give you another trial. Currently, there is no need to pay for a subscription unless you need it for enterprise use. However, I'm sure if they start to grow this will change. Edit: I am not sure actually if this is true for the atelier version of style 3d, I use style 3d studio which is the version used more in physical fashion production. (Simular to clo3d vs marvelous designer)
@@goldfishyname the one feature that everyone will want and that will allow the team behind to exist and develop further. Now name few more. At some point you’ll end up with a decent package that do the thing well and all potential new upgrades will not need any new features. Just bug fixing and adapting to new hardware. It’s like carving a statue. You can carv it better more and more, even polish, but eventually you’ll need to either stop, cut set stone deeper to remove something or smack new clay on top instead to it turn the whole idea into something different that wasn’t the initial idea. And we all know how this can end.
I see a lot of comment hating the subscription model and I do too. I'm willing to spend up to a grand for a perpetual license. But I'm really glad Style3D exist because it is a legit Competitor to Marvelous Designer, not so for Clo because lack of real-life garment making support. Other garment making software only cater for fashion industry you cannot even access them unless you are a business. MD/Clo has no real competitor for a long time so they can charge any price they want. At least Style3D has free version so anyone can jump into it. I hope I can make garment using just blender, but it is not possible. Blender please at least add basic sewing function.
It all looks really cool apart from a couple of issues. First, how would one use it to take a character model and animation from Blender, then simulate and/or create and simulate any clothing, and then transfer that clothing model/simulation back into Blender for any texturing/rendering/compositing, etc. Then there's the second issue which pretty much makes any Blender integration a moot point anyway and that is just like I won't touch Houdini/Marvelous Designer/Clo 3D, etc due to it all being subscription based, then this too is a non starter.
What you dont want to spend thousands on Software a year for Adobe and autodesk slop etc. And you're not in a expensive Art college? What are you poor or something? 3d is for wealthy middle class people only lol.
Their site didn't have an "about page." There wasn't any way of knowing system compatibility, system requirements or best case for system configuration recommendations. Also, these days, where a software is manufactured is also important.
Bruh he said that it's free for now just install the software and check if it's gonna work on your rig and idk what you actually mean by saying " where it's manufactured "
@@polyswamp I should have typed, I don't know the developers. There are lots of apps on US app store platforms with "hidden" backdoors in their software. I don't know who your clients are, but I have firewalls on my computer for a reason. Also, System Requirements are a standard operating procedure for a software company. Not everyone uses a Windows PC, I don't. Finally, if I'm making a switch from say, Marvelous Designer, I want to make sure it's for good reasons not just a single financial decision. Sometimes, people 'hustle backwards' because they're just trying to save money. But there are other conditions to consider.
I was interested in this software but what puts me off aside from the subscription is that despite you mentioning that it's sponsored and that your statements are of your own, the total lack of any criticism or concerns just does the total opposite of what you or the company sponsoring wants to achieve. It makes me distrust the honesty of the positive statements even if they were justified.
If you know how to use MD, there is almost no learning curving. And we have very fast GPU-based cloth simulation, which is able to help you save a lot of time.
I think I that I've seen this software before, and yes its a subscription aka software as a service, and that company will not be serviced by my dollars.
@@heinzwesternhagen8300Nah, it is. It used to have perpetual licenses also, but discontinued around version 9 or 10. So if you had a perpetual license version 9 or 10 you could purchase an upgrade up to version 12 being the last version made available to upgrade to before purchasing a perpetual license is no longer possible. Unless they continue/extend the time window for that, then you only have subscription being the only way (that I know of) to use the software without having a subscription.
if youre pushing subscriptions then nobody cares .. if youre offering a perpetual license then people might want to
Agreed. Just let people buy your software. Offer new features to get them to upgrade. Keep it simple.
+1 👍
It is a weird double-edged sword to be honest. Subscriptions are done purely for greed from a business perspective, but it has opened up the legal use of software for many individual artists. The average artist can't afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars upfront for software. On the flip side of this, it is much harder to pirate subscription-based software.
I will mention that style 3d currently gives free trials for individual use and they will keep extending the trials for essentially however long as you ask. When the trial ends you can just reach out to them and say you still want to use the software and they will give you another trial. Currently, there is no need to pay for a subscription unless you need it for enterprise use. However, I'm sure if they start to grow this will change. Edit: I am not sure actually if this is true for the atelier version of style 3d, I use style 3d studio which is the version used more in physical fashion production. (Simular to clo3d vs marvelous designer)
@@goldfishyname the one feature that everyone will want and that will allow the team behind to exist and develop further. Now name few more. At some point you’ll end up with a decent package that do the thing well and all potential new upgrades will not need any new features. Just bug fixing and adapting to new hardware. It’s like carving a statue. You can carv it better more and more, even polish, but eventually you’ll need to either stop, cut set stone deeper to remove something or smack new clay on top instead to it turn the whole idea into something different that wasn’t the initial idea. And we all know how this can end.
Fuck company greed. Im not ashamed to use cgpeers
wow, nice... Fashion designers will be pleased.
I see a lot of comment hating the subscription model and I do too. I'm willing to spend up to a grand for a perpetual license. But I'm really glad Style3D exist because it is a legit Competitor to Marvelous Designer, not so for Clo because lack of real-life garment making support. Other garment making software only cater for fashion industry you cannot even access them unless you are a business. MD/Clo has no real competitor for a long time so they can charge any price they want. At least Style3D has free version so anyone can jump into it. I hope I can make garment using just blender, but it is not possible. Blender please at least add basic sewing function.
It all looks really cool apart from a couple of issues. First, how would one use it to take a character model and animation from Blender, then simulate and/or create and simulate any clothing, and then transfer that clothing model/simulation back into Blender for any texturing/rendering/compositing, etc.
Then there's the second issue which pretty much makes any Blender integration a moot point anyway and that is just like I won't touch Houdini/Marvelous Designer/Clo 3D, etc due to it all being subscription based, then this too is a non starter.
So do you need both subscriptions? So it is $188 x 2 , no way that is expensive
How i say already: Subscriptions are a ABSOLUTE NO GO !!!!!!
What you dont want to spend thousands on Software a year for Adobe and autodesk slop etc. And you're not in a expensive Art college? What are you poor or something? 3d is for wealthy middle class people only lol.
Fuck this I just gonna use blender and gimp and do product Design lol
Their site didn't have an "about page." There wasn't any way of knowing system compatibility, system requirements or best case for system configuration recommendations. Also, these days, where a software is manufactured is also important.
That's really nice suggestion, we'll definitely make that information available in the next update
@@style3dcg If you had a one off plan that was restricted to a particular version more indie game developers might buy it.
Bruh he said that it's free for now just install the software and check if it's gonna work on your rig and idk what you actually mean by saying " where it's manufactured "
Its a must buy if this software is made by jews
@@polyswamp I should have typed, I don't know the developers. There are lots of apps on US app store platforms with "hidden" backdoors in their software. I don't know who your clients are, but I have firewalls on my computer for a reason. Also, System Requirements are a standard operating procedure for a software company. Not everyone uses a Windows PC, I don't.
Finally, if I'm making a switch from say, Marvelous Designer, I want to make sure it's for good reasons not just a single financial decision. Sometimes, people 'hustle backwards' because they're just trying to save money. But there are other conditions to consider.
Woah what a rad piece of software.
2:02 i speak french, "atelier" means "workshop"
Looks cool but its subscription based. I really don't like that format.
is it easier to learn than marvelous designer?
If you already know a bit of MD, it won't be difficult to learn our software, as the operations are quite similar.
I was interested in this software but what puts me off aside from the subscription is that despite you mentioning that it's sponsored and that your statements are of your own, the total lack of any criticism or concerns just does the total opposite of what you or the company sponsoring wants to achieve. It makes me distrust the honesty of the positive statements even if they were justified.
Looks cool
how easy is to use this software for our metahuman ?
I need 3d cloth for metahuman, and for now only MD is the best choise for me.
If you know how to use MD, there is almost no learning curving. And we have very fast GPU-based cloth simulation, which is able to help you save a lot of time.
I use clo 7.2 I am a cloth simulator please suggest me how to work it
Thank you for your interests. We have free trial for your testing, please visit our offcial websites, the links are in the video description.
@@style3dcg thank you
Ohhh I love this
thanks bro
I think I that I've seen this software before, and yes its a subscription aka software as a service, and that company will not be serviced by my dollars.
Yeah if it's not perpetual for a certain version no thanks.
subscription.
Subscription based? Thanks but no thanks.
Another subscription. I will stick with Marvelous instead
What are you talking about? Marvelous is also subscription based or am I misinformed?
@@heinzwesternhagen8300 Some of us have perpetual licenses for MD, which are not available for purchase anymore.
@@heinzwesternhagen8300Nah, it is. It used to have perpetual licenses also, but discontinued around version 9 or 10. So if you had a perpetual license version 9 or 10 you could purchase an upgrade up to version 12 being the last version made available to upgrade to before purchasing a perpetual license is no longer possible. Unless they continue/extend the time window for that, then you only have subscription being the only way (that I know of) to use the software without having a subscription.
@@clownthefx I have used Clo3d and Marvelous Designer. I have tried the Style3d Atelier. Believe me, you would have a better time here.
Everyone sells out eventually I guess. You know it’s trash. Just a MD clone that sells two subscriptions
Idk, looks like MD the copy, and i really don't like MD software like pattern workflow. I shall pass on this.
Awesome software but!!! subsrciption....so im not interesting.if they give a perpetual here we are...
Chinese clone of Marvelous Designer, i’m good. Also this is a BS commercial thanks.
not open source? Next.