Street Takeovers completely killed my hometowns street racing scene believe it or not. From 2010-2016 before I moved, There were street races every friday and saturday night unless it rained. Even during the dead of winter they still would race so long as there wasnt ice or snowfall. But when I revisited in 2018, They couldnt be found anywhere and I eventually found one of the guys who would regularly race. He said that they dont have races anymore because those street takeover guys came and bascally caused so much chaos that police would take anyone in that they thought had been part of the street races. That and there was suddenly a lot of fights, gang members showing up causing issues, dudes cars being fucked with, they even had a few people get guns drawn on them because these street takeover dudes kept provoking shit and then retaliating when people had enough of their shit. Funny enough, this was when Dodge Chargers and Challengers began to tale off with being stolen and used for street takeovers/public endangerment. So my cities street racing club called it quits and they havent gone back to it since. Also doesnt help that most of our racing spots are now built up and are fully built communities. But that 2010-2016 period was a great run and I had lots of fun memories from it.
Seeing takeovers kills my brain cells and seeing instagram reels of people "chopping it up" in traffic kills my soul... and it's always some young adult in a Hellcat financed at 30% APR for 8 years with a $1500 monthly payment lmao.
I feel you 100% on takeovers. Please make a video about them. Use that influencer status to educate people about how selfish and irresponsible they are. I'm not against people having fun, but when you insist on having fun at the expense of society functioning, that's a serious problem.
True story; about 3 weeks ago I finally decided to head to a local meet. Given the state of the community I was expecting childish behavior, but I've honestly never been more embarrassed to be a car enthusiast. Burnouts, revving, actually arguing with other people about their cars. One guy was getting shit on because he has an automatic. Another one was torn apart so bad for having rep wheels he just left. Somebody tried to rip on me because my car is on OEM wheels with stock suspension. Not jokingly, mind you. Straight up "You're not modified, you don't deserve to be here." There was a collision when two idiots tried to out-do one another, which resulted in a fight. After the fight the guy took off in his (almost written-off) car, hitting a random woman who was just trying to improve her photography skills. The car scene is a disgrace. I've had people get mad at me in traffic because I wouldn't race them. All I have is a 4th gen mazda with an intake, and a cat-back, but 700hp Hellcats will cut me off if I don't want to race them. There's far too many people in the car scene with way too fragile egos.
Damn I wish I had some excitement at my local shows honestly. It’s all really old cars in perfect condition. And if you even as much as pull away from the meet in a spirited fashion you get a ticket.
When people say "oh yea I had one of those but I crashed it" saying it like it was an accomplishment, I have a respect for my cars, speeding everywhere and crashing is not cool
Yes, you should definitely do a video on takeovers. Us car enthusiasts already have enough "guns pointed at us" for lack of better words, from local politicians, police officers, the general public and the EPA. We don't need just one more thing to make us look bad like take overs. People get seriously injured and killed at these things, and it just makes the local community hate car enthusiasts and gives them motivation to discourage legal permitted meets, etc. For fear of them turning into a "take over" type event.
Yup, my friend was killed at a takeover, not even one of us it was a non-car person that got mad and was zooming around. I'll copy and paste what I said in my own post but it's not even about cars anymore. "Here in the DMV car culture has been stupid well the car scene in general but especially here in the DMV. It's not about cars anymore it's about a person's race, sex, sexual orientation, or a language (Hispanics) they do or don't speak. Or if it is about cars and you OVERLY like cars you are hated for it. Or it's all about likes, followers, and clout chasing. Males in the scene act more like females AKA Regina Georges now. The girls now in the scene are the ones who are cool I have had no issues with females. It's the males now who are drama queens. Talking about people hating someone. When I tell my truth I'm crazy or playing victim I have a whole video on my experience in the car scene from the day I went to my first car meet. Yet to edit it but it talks about everything."
In my city, The Takeover crowd alone was what eliminated my city's street race scene. Our racing scene was very civil and inclusive. They welcomed anyone in who was willing to behave and just enjoy the meets/races like everyone else. But after I left for Denver, the takeover scene just kind of took over and became a serious threat to the group. All the takeover guys in my hometown were from the hood and they just began to cause absolute chaos every meet and eventually got it disbanded due to threats with guns and them fucking with other racers cars while they werent close to their cars. Along with other stuff that just elevated the over all liability with them around.
I did repo's for like two years 😂 those cars were mine for nothing to blow tires off and jump them as far as possible for 1-3 weeks at a time 😂 I would get repo's so often I used them as daily's. I would park like five of them at my house at a time and fuck them things up lol
@@jayquickscope4446 facts,plus they sued our cars about the dirty air.But we don’t have to worry too much about the fuel cuz Formula 1 already developed biofuel,and it’s only made out of corn and food waste,and we can use this to turn tables on those electric “cars” xd
Thank you, my group stopped meeting when the state patrol setup a statewide task force due to takeovers but we used to drive an hour out of the city to a 4 mile straight freshly paved area of road with nothing remotely lose to it besides this one parking lot in the middle for a hiking trail. We had permanent lights setup and never used to be bothered by cops before takeovers. We kept it real secret and you had to have a dyno sheet over 600whp to be accepted into the group
Building a car for yourself should really be one of the only reasons you’re doing it, building a car for validation of others is essentially just being a poser.
That should be the main reason why you're buying or building your dream cars, it's not always about competition, hype, brag & rights through power, numbers, stats and etc but rather the connectivity that you have with the machine and being able to express yourself as an individual!!! Sad to say that in this modern car culture, you could rarely see people who has this kind of mentality in western part of the countries and most of those matured and genuine car enthusiasts are in Japan.
"no replacement for displacement" from an engineering perspective stands true. If you build two engines that are otherwise identical in every way, the one with more displacement will make more power. HOWEVER just because you have a larger displacement, doesn't mean your car is faster.
I noticed this vibe starting 5-10 years ago. Meets in the early 2000s, in contrast, were so much more open. Even though I was never super into American muscle, I was always treated well at these events. Since about 2010, I’ve only been to one truly good car meet that had that same open feeling like I experienced 20 years back. It was one of your meets, David. Waltham, MA in 2017 when you met with subscribers (filmed a bagged Audi Q5 review then IIRC). great vibes, great energy, loved it! One of my fondest memories of a car meet in over 10 years. I wish you would do more of them! Average car meets of the last few years? Unfriendly vibes, and I feel as if my brain cells are fading into the distant nothing, never to return.
Old friend of mine once said "only an a**hole buys a Dodge." (Looks at the takeover at the strip mall full of scat packs and hellcats doing constant donuts and burnouts) Well he wasn't wrong now that I hear police sirens every time there's a simple little car meet and not a takeover.
@Christian Erekson many times I’ve seen demons pulling this crap. not to say all are bad, but sometimes the wealthier people in the community are the worse ones.
Yo another twin city native, I can’t agree more. I started avoiding all of non permitted meets. Not sure if you heard about what happened at cars and crafts last weekend but seriously f*** takeovers and the morons who participate in them. I hope they don’t cancel cars and crafts permanently
i'm from europe, reading all of these things about what goes on in the us makes me never want to visit, and not only about the culture but in general, social media painted a really shitty picture of the us for us and it's only getting worse :(((
@@crs0176 yeah as in meets that aren’t automatically broken up by police on site. I enjoy being able to grab some pizza and a beer from a local food truck while I hangout with buddies and enjoy the meet than have to drive all over the state because police kick you out of every spot within minutes of showing up. I did the race scene for 3 years and the takeovers have literally ruined it so bad it’s not even worth going. Yeah, I like permitted meets like cars and crafts at the local brewery, cars and coffee Saturday mornings at the local mall, you know events where the police actually setup a space for you to meet and you don’t have to worry about getting 50 tickets a year. Grow up dude. My buddy went to one of the “race meets” last weekend and nearly got shot because everybody wants to be gangster these days. Some guys pulled up and opened fire cause they had beef with the guy in the car next to him. Our state patrol is now cracking down on ALL modified vehicles any time of day so my full caged track built 240sx I spent 60k on is a rolling target. All thanks to f***ing morons who don’t know how to act.
Takeovers are just for boy racers.. thinking theyre living in a fast and furious life without recignizing the dangers of takeovers. Even the street racing and car meets in that movie seemed to have more class than these takeovers nowadays. Cars and coffee, strongly built meets with people who enforce no burnout rules etc, organizing cruises and photoshoots, thats class on public road when youre involved in a mass group. David said it perfectly. The cop will bunch a takeover together on how one person is acting it reflects the group and could get everyone in trouble because of a couple people. . Its different when a police officer encounters a person in total isolation from other drivers, practicing spririted driving. The police officer will have a different reaction to a single party. Its not worth your license. Most people need a license to get to work etc. Its also not worth someones life
This is spot on. I love to slide my s14 around but I always do it in deserted areas or when there’s nobody around. We have a massive issue with takeovers in my city and one day I found a deserted Kohl’s with two buddies who had never been in my s14 before to do some donuts. The only car around happened to be an undercover cop but he let me loose fairly quickly after looking at my license. Never checked my insurance which was technically storage insurance at the time, asked my driving record and verified I was telling the truth about my one ticket and told me to go “do this sh*t in your own city” to which I replied yes sir and promptly left. I had a 550hp RB popping at redline and shooting flames but nobody was around so I wasn’t putting anyone else at risk. I think the cop recognized how much work I had put into the car and that I just wanted to show some buddies a without driving three hours to a track and sent me on my way
Reasons why people do takeovers *Drivers* They live in the city where there’s no real drift spots so intersections are the biggest area for them. All the other spots around the city are burnt so all the different groups need to come together at intersections so there’s enough people to block off the cops.(unless the cops come from 4 sides and trap you in the blockers will buy you time to make it out the other side). Or it’s the slammed trucks and Infiniti’s and dodges doing one wheel peels and thinking it’s the hardest shit ever. *spectators* Their car is impounded or broken. They like to get videos of (good drivers / people getting smacked / cars crashing into each other / cool cars / bad drivers / fights). IM GONNA WRITE MORE JUST GETTING TIRED👋
I feel like the online car community doesnt call it out like we should. Though whenever I've tried on instagram, Ive been called racist since the majority of the people I see doing it just so happen to be POC..... So basically its pointless at this point. I remember when it was an Isolated bay area ghettos thing, but it eventually spread to be the main source of problems with street racing and the car community. I'd rather the Fart can Civic bois come back than let takeover bois continue to be allowed to exist with the wider car community.
We need more influencers talking about takeovers. They've ruined SO many meets it's sad, and they're some of the reason for some stupid car laws in states.
Probably the worst argument I've heard is the people who think when you get a new car, you need to IMMEDIATELY change everything about it. I recently picked up a mk7.5 golf r and I get asked a lot "when are you gonna get new wheels?" "Why haven't you gotten new wheels?" And it's baffling to some of these people that I want to wait until my relatively new Michelin pilot sport 4s tires wear down some more. They just think it needs to be modded to hell right away for it to be cool, or to solidify myself as a "true" car guy. It makes me think these people have never had other responsibilities, or they just think life is like Forza and you can just instantly change your entire car in a flash.
Im enjoying my car in its bone stock form before I throw any power and actual mods to it, and it’s honestly great. Soak up the stock experience, then when you get the urge for more power, THEN you throw money at it. Just do quality of life and reliability stuff first. More power means more breaking shit. More breaking shit means less time to drive it, and it also means less money. Lmao
@@halogod0298 Some folks aren't poor, rather we have other bills that need to be paid and we sometimes can't pay for mods. This isn't like forza where you can instantly install mods as soon as you get the car. Unless you are rolling in the dough and spend money on any modifications, you'll have to wait.
My least favorite car argument is the “built vs bought” argument it’s always said by someone compare a car that is built for the quarter mile vs a car built to do everything by a bunch of engineers
Takeover type of stuff got me out of the racing scene. We had our racing spots that were normally pretty tame and cops would leave us alone, then the Charger groups and Lifted Truck groups kept coming out more and more and basically making it a party zone. We knew that once those groups started pulling in, it's time to leave because within the hour if the cops didn't run everyone off, there would be gunshots. It makes me sad because I loved it, and the closest track is about 3 hours away, I'm not making that drive every weekend. The culture on the street was better and so was the racing. It just wasn't worth it to me anymore.
I think you’re just adding the “lifted truck” part for optics because we know exactly who we’re talking about when you say the “chargers”. I’ve never seen the lifted trucks people cause the same problems the “charger” people do.
@@keyonkelly5693 at least for my area it sadly is, wannabe gangsters with financed chargers and challengers or dudes with clapped g35/37s aswell calling themselves "car guys"
I got exited when I had my first real propper car to have fun in, a BMW 130i, decided to go on one car meet, pretty big one, saw some crazy cars but alot of kids and drunk people, decidede after 1 and a half hour to leave cause didn't want to stick around when everything got out of hand. So I went to my car only to see that someone has left a huge dent on the side of my car... That just ruin it all for me, this was last year, haven't been on a car meet since and not sure if I ever will attend one....
Try cars and coffee meets. They’re generally a lot more chill and since it’s in the morning (with free coffee and donuts depending on the meet) you’re less likely to get drunk idiots.
@@hatch450sx3 Our street racing group was fairly big, but it was so civil and inclusive. We could leave windows down, keys in the ignition and just leave our cars to socialize and watch the races. We'd have like 50 cars show up and all be filled with people, but nothing would get messed with. The worst we got was rules set at one of the Gas stations we'd all meet up at because we made it unusable lol. But the Takeover boys invaded while i was out of state for a few years and they caused so much chaos and danger, that the entire race scene disbanded permanently. That and my hometown grew and enveloped all of our spots.
Find an organized cars and coffee. I really enjoy those, but I'll never go to a "meet" again. A similar thing happened to my buddies Focus ST at a meet.
A rim is the rigid circle the tire goes on, a wheel is the rim and tire combo ready to hit the pavement. I'm 39, to old to change, and will fight to the death over these antiquated definitions! 💪
The idiots from the hood have weaseled their way into the wider car community/street racing scene and are making it a chore to enjoy. They've made Mopars a legit hazzard to your life if you own one and have become the symbol of takeovers. The dudes from the hood who rock Mopars are the sole reason why my hometowns main street racing group disbanded sometime after I left in 2016. They caused so much shit that it became a serious liablity to go to the races and they fucked with others cars. But you never hear any criticism about any of this though on social media, in facts its loved and almost encouraged. But you know who I see Bitching and calling this dumb shit out the most?? I see POC calling this insanity out and complaining about how they cant enjoy the Mopar brand because dudes with 0 self control have made owning a Mopar a serious liability and making it more stressful to properly enjoy the cars and the car scene in general without someone doing crazy shit and ruining a good, civilized time. Remember when you could laugh and mock the fart can civic dudes out of a group or community?? Yeah, those days are over it seems.
@@Highlander1432 I assume a lot of those cars in takeovers are stolen. It's no coincidence there is an epidemic of Mopars being stolen and Mopars wrecking at takeovers.
Real car enthusiasts aren’t a nuisance. Burnouts and donuts in a rural or abandoned area is one thing but donuts in a busy intersection is downright stupid.
Sideshows and people who do nothing but donuts in stolen vehicles are the most disgusting ghetto thing I've ever seen in the car hobby. At least the big wheel fad they did for awhile took pride in their vehicle.
Big wheel car culture (which in and of itself is an offshoot of the Donk car culture) is still alive and well. It’s no longer a fad, it’s been a thing for almost 20 years now. They even have an official drag racing organization now. A lot of those big wheel cars have a chunk of money spent on them and they can really move, so don’t underestimate them!
I miss being able to drive without being challenged by every so called “muscle car enthusiast” which really just means kids that convinced parent or young adult put everything they have into getting a shiny dodge ________. Then assuming they know how to drive them because the car salesman showed them how to do a burnout. A lot of people are at fault for where the culture is heading. But no one wants to take fault when someone gets hurt.. I just took my dog out for a walk and I can see where the neighborhood A-hole in the white charger likes to do burnouts.. well last night he clearly hopped the curb.. where people walk their dogs or exercise… tire marks showing a complete loss of control leading into the curb… this guy has been doing donuts at least 3 times a week. Doesn’t matter how well you do it if you aren’t in a controlled environment. Long comment.. my bad but this video hit home big time lol I’m from the Motor City and living in Texas has been a crazy shift in the car scene for me. I miss the Dream cruise and all the civilized car enthusiasts. 😅
I take offense to that I know quite a few middle aged as well as wrinkled types in hellcats and similar. And a few of those are definitely instigating.
@@MaddJakd I drive a Hellcat and find it's quite literally everyone else is instigating me to see how they can keep up with the Hellcat as a benchmark.
@@saaaahduuuuude1228 I think it’s safe to say that if you are in that car, people do wanna see what it can do… I think that’s expected, the problem I have with it.. is that it’s never at an appropriate time or place, always in the thick of traffic & never on a clear straight smh If you think that’s ridiculous how about being in an almost stock Ecoboost mustang and catching all that attention from a car that’s clearly faster than you… it’s like they don’t know what other cars are and can do themselves. 😅
One of the absolute rediculous things I have heard as a mechanic.... A old man once told me the best way to break a engine in is to run it without water till the temp Guage is pegged then shock it with cold water to seal the gaskets 🤣
David, I Loved your reaction to "American Cars can't corner"...I could totally see in your face and body language what you WANTED to say, but you held back, and responded in a civilized manner. People that say things like that, have likely never driven stuff like a Focus/Fiesta ST or RS, or driven a well-sorted Mustang or Corvette or other performance-oriented cars.
I live in eastern europe, and "car guys" here are extremely braindead when it comes to american cars. They still think they're in the malaise era. They'll look at a 5.0 mustang and say that it's garbage but they get excited about some shitty diesel BMW lmao. It's sad.
Even back in the muscle car days, the pony cars were quite the handlers by the standards of back then. It was only the big block cars that are only good in a straight line.
@@JoseRivera-ym3wj yep, I had a 1978 Mercury Zephyr 2-dr notchback sedan, which as some people are still aware, is a fox body. I had Mustang GT Cobra springs, shocks, bushings, swaybars, links, brakes, quick ratio power steering rack, GT Cobra Turbine wheels with Bridgestone Potanza RE950's on them, and oh man...could that car ever corner, including over 100mph. It was actually lighter than my parents 2-dr Manual V6 93 Topaz...
"The developers of Grid Autosport have no idea about cars, the R34 just doesn't want to turn in this game. IRL the R34 is a drifting mashine!" - my buddy Chris. No, he doesn't have a drivers license.
I cant respect all builds. Why would I respect a Ford Fusion with a giant chassis mounted wing, fake hood scoops, with big booby anime girls all over the side 😐
The way I see it, respect all builds doesn't mean respect all cars. You can dislike the car all you want, but you should respect the time, dedication and passion that someone has for their car, even if you don't like it. In other words, respect all builds means respect the person behind the build, not the end product.
Exactly. I’d kinda say laughing at a dude’s build even though it’s probably in poor taste enthusiast wise doesn’t follow that rule of “respect the person”. I’d only argue it should be mocked if said person of the build takes it up to be more than what it is, ya know?
One thing I learned early on by a wiser man then me was “ a great man will never have to tell you how great he is because he shows you every day” still live by this advice 25 years later. R. I. P. Dave!!!!!!
Even with gas prices rising, I’m pretty sure it’ll be the longest time until I get an EV. That being said if i’m given the opportunities to drive them I wouldn’t be able to say no
I bought a FWD 2.0L that sure beats the hell out of my RWD 4.0L I used to own. More power, lighter chassis, better driving response, and everything. I hate when people completely disregard FWD as a viable driver’s car.
100% do a video on takeovers, the car scene is really becoming full of clout chasers who make it bad for the rest of us who want to have chill meets and shows.
As one of the first employees at Road Atlanta. I had a 1971 Porsche 914-6. I used to scare the HELL out of girl friends as well as myself on the track. Spun out a few times / never crashed, but I always remembered what I did wrong in a particular turn and adjusted to make it safer. Ended up holding a very fast track time.
Worst argument I ever heard, literally lost brain power watching the guys story. “Park and chills are stupid because everybody expects you to have crazy rare parts and judges your shit, sideshows are for real drivers cause all you need is a rear wheel drive car and bars as a driver” Words of a clapped v6 mustang owner
Mopar culture and the general toxicity that comes with immature people in overpowered stock cars has caused me to distance myself from the majority of the car scene, tbh. Probably why I'm into old, quirky cars that aren't particularly fast, or ones that are just downright slow. Stance culture, too. Low and slow doesn't hurt people like kids in Hellcats do.
I swear to god buy an older car with smaller tires and lower limits and you will have more fun at legal speeds than you have ever had. Nothing beats getting sideways within the speed limit. Also the older the car the higher the chance the police will laugh or give a thumbs up.
This is the best advice to anyone looking to get into the car scene. You will have way more fun in a modded Miata you built yourself than a R35 that is at impound speeds in 5 seconds.
@@toddf93 Agree with all this^ most fun car for me was an e21 1.8L 5 speed totally stock. Had to rev the crap out of it to keep up with traffic, and heel-toe downshift for every corner to help the brakes. Grocery run felt like a rally stage!
I'm more of a motorcycle guy now (ended up on this video bc of the algorithm I guess?) but the most fun car I ever had before embracing modern econo-boxes was a 1984 Subaru GL that had tires about as wide as a beer glass and 80 hp on a good day. I hooned the fuck out of that thing, only let it go because the frame rusted all the way through
"german sports cars are just better" cue me buying a brand new intercooler because the stock one was leaking into my engine almost causing a catastrophic failure.
Years ago before i really cared about cars i was talking to some dude at a party he's going on about his BMW. He asks me what i drive, i had a 2004 Buick Century. Then he proceeds to rag on my car saying that my american car is an unreliable piece of crap. Bruh, the car cost me $5000 and it never gave me any trouble. Meanwhile he just mentioned all the repairs he had to make.
I plasti dipped my wheels on a truck I used to have to keep the salt off them in the winter. People that claimed to hate plasti dip thought I bought new wheels and were complimenting me on how good they looked 🤣
@@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455 Not really, Cops are much more chill than in the US except for car violations.. they are just hardcore when it comes to traffic laws.
Worst take is “ they do takeovers in California so we should do them here(Washington state)” proceeds to do one in a tunnel on the free way with cameras tagging plates on either side and out front the space needle next to a NEWS BUILDING( there is footage- it’s pitiful).
Same thing last year in Minneapolis, they don’t make the destination so the headline reads “street racers block Lowry hill tunnel” you find the same situation
I agree with everything except your views on "no replacement for displacement" because I think it is true. Yes, technologies such as turbocharging and others allow small displacement, lower cylinder engines to match more powerful, large displacement, 8 cylinder or more engine, but if you take those large displacement engines and apply the same technology, the small displacement stuff can't compete. Take Greg Peter's Miata build; he has a 1.9L turbo 4 cyl in his car with lots of boost, and it just made about 500 wheel. That's amazing! Or something bigger, like boosting an M50/52/54 BMW engine, you can easily make 600hp. This matches engines such as the LT4 from the C7 Z06, or the Viper V10. But we all know what happens when you twin turbo a 8.4L Viper... 1500hp without even trying. Hell, Calvo makes Vipers with over 3000 wheel HP. And twin turbo lambos, etc. I'm not discrediting building lower displacement engines, not at all. Greg Peters' turbo Miata build is one of my favorites in the car community, and I know people in real life who have turboed E36 325is that make 600 wheel. Those cars are amazing, truly spectacular. But high displacement will always win. Imagine two engines, one is a 2.5L cylinder and the other is a 5.0L V8. Give them both 10lbs of boost (CFM is more important here though). The V8 will theoretically always make DOUBLE the power.
When you say “But if you take those large displacement engines and apply the same technology, the small displacement engines cant compete” isnt that literally because the (replacement for displacement) aka forced induction, on the higher displacement engines the reason why they are dominating?
The dark side of electric cars is a great video because barely anyone wants to talk about it and now days you’ll probably get “fact checked” and canceled for pointing out the obvious.
Oh, Youd be amazed at how much fake info on EVs there is. You actually have to dig to get any real data on them since almost every article or car video on them is skewd 100% in favor of them since nowdays, its frowned upon to say that gas powered cars are still the most viable option.
Yeah like how they love to conveniently act like digging for lithium and these other metals isn’t awful for the environment not to mention they need fossil fuels to run the fucking electric plants 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
People do tend to polarize about them to the point of believing very wrong facts. I think they're very good for some things but in my case, I don't actually do enough miles to justify one. If I had the budget, though, I think it'd be fun to convert something I otherwise like but never liked the engines for anyway. (I noticed the other night that even some anti-EV hot rod kids thought it would be really cool if I made like an electric Pacer or Pinto wagon, for instance. We happen to have solar here, so it wouldn't be *entirely* pointless even if the math wouldn't exactly compel it. :)
We're just getting old. This was awesome when we were 16 with a slapped together honda or small block chevy and just wanted some excitement. Now that we appreciate and understand the cars for what they are rather than just having one, stuff like cars and coffee is more fun.
Seeing as you live in Georgia and have probably seen the news. Make a video on what the takeover scene is doing out here to the car community especially in Gwinnett and Cobb county
I live in Tucker. it seems like every other night I hear the local goons burning rubber. think it was last week it went on for over an hour and a half. police were called and not one showed up. then gunshots went off to end the scene. dumbasses will inevitably ruin the car culture in the eye of the local community
Rim vs Wheel reminds me a lot of the Clip vs Magazine conversation... Manufacturers called small magazines "clips" in the early 90s but people are so rigid in thinking that they can't be bothered to understand that vernacular changes sometimes.
Go to the car meets in Tokyo Japan 🇯🇵 They’re well mannered and tame. I don’t go to car meets anymore. Just go to the track and see what my car 🚗 can do is enough.
And I thought I was the only one who felt the same way. Most of the car meets that I have attended had this whole vibe of kids trying to show off and be cool. While I was there to possibly meet some cool people and hear stories about their rides. I feel like I’ve missed out on the good times that I never had from the previous car community scene. I’m a more function over form track and autocross kind of guy, so I may be biased.
One of the worse car arguments is that the modern V6 cars( mustang, Camaro, charger and Challengers, etc) are not viable performance cars in the V8 car culture.
They are decent cars, but the thing is that those engines are really not designed to be in those cars. A mustang, camaro, ESPECIALLY challengers and chargers are simply supposed to have V8 engines with lots of torque, since they are big heavy cars. A V6 engine like the chrysler pentastar would be so much better in a smaller, lighter chassis with better suspension than in a challenger. Again, those cars are not bad, but they're simply better with a v8 engine, a v6 just doesn't fit their character. I wish more manufacturers would make smaller sporty cars with RWD, but it's not financially viable because everyone wants a fucking suv or a truck nowadays.
Exactly, I've never owned a sports car, but I'm saving up to buy a s650 gt in a few years. That said, Ecoboost and v6 mustangs can still be made into some cool builds. That 3.7 cyclone is apparently durable AF, and can easily handle 600 to 700 hp front what I've seen.
While I don’t really like widebodies/flares, I am doing them on my car for the function of track use of being able to go from fitting a 9.5 with a stretched tire to a 10.5 wide with a meaty setup, stock body is better imo yes but if the widebody is for function, I’m all for it
Agreed. Wide bodies are for fitting more tire under the car and that’s the only acceptable reason for using those kits, at least in my mind. When I see wide bodied cars with wheel spacers and stretched tires, I cringe.
It's all of the elitist or fanboys and trend setters that got into cars, who aren't enthusiastic in anyway with emotion and care that an enthusiast is. The lack of respect and the ethic of rich elite "only supercars and legends" or sadboi's who do every dumb mod and don't know crap about the car. To much bias in my opinion and no knowledge.
The arguments between parts lists when putting a turbo on an engine. There’s always some arguing in the Honda threads about using one piston over another, this oil pump v this oil pump, etc.
Went to a pop up meet at a sheetz at the beginning of the season. Not 15 mins in was there 3 mopars and a Camaro with no plates line locking and doing donuts in front of open businesses. Everyone moves to new spot.. mopars show up start doing donuts.. repeat. Cops chasing everyone out of every spot we go to now. So annoying and makes it impossible to go to any meets cause you know they’re just going to get shut down.
16:00. No. Financing a car is only a good idea when the car is already 5 years old or older, and like you said, get a good interest rate. It is never a good idea to finance a brand new Mustang for 28% interest and end up paying $600 a month for 8 years. I drive an 02 corolla that I bought for 2 grand. only 98k miles. I save $500 a month compared to when I had my brand new Fiesta ST. If I still had that stupid car, I would not be able to afford my bills now with inflation. That is why you don't go into debt for stupid reasons like a car.
Slamming cars! Im all for lowering a car but when the wheels are barely hanging on and you scrape on everything its to much and makes your car look broken and terrible. 2nd, all these tech youtubers that suddenly think they know everything about cars because they got a tesla. Finally, that the cyber truck looks good
All the Drag strips around my area, charge around $25 for the night. At least 4 tracks within an hour or two of the house. Run as much as you can. 2019 Mustang GT with the 10 speed?!? Yeah. Quicker than the manual. Ridiculous.
The first few min TDIB was going in !! I was shocked he held no restraints 😂.I’m tired of respecting all builds group is great .lately all they talk about is “peak poor” .
I feel like one of the biggest arguments is people saying the scene is dead or that it's trash, when they don't even go out of their way to go past their local Walmart meet, go to a Tuner Evolution, or Clean Culture show, go to a local drift or HPD event, (I know there are certain areas that don't get these things, it's all growing though I hope it's nationwide soon) but honestly car culture is alive and growing imo
People shitting on Jeeps just because they're jeeps. Be more specific, go for mall crawlers and pavement princesses. There's 80 years of jeep history and owners, not all of them curb their wheels at Starbucks.
My neighbor works for AAA Top 5 makes that get towed off the road due to mechanical failures: 1. Mercedes 2. BMW 3. Audi 4. Land Rover 5. Chrysler Notice what the top 3 have in common???
Funniest part about takeovers for me is when some idiot jumps in the middle of someone "drifting" to record them and gets hit and the driver gets the blame, like come on man if you are stupid enough to do that shit to get a clip then i would say you are at fault. The old saying: "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" fits so well in that scenario. Hope that Tiktok or Instagram clip was worth the medical bills and potential lifelong physical repercussions. Then again the whole takeover scene is pretty dumb in my eyes and seems to attract the lower I.Q. group of car enthusiasts. Natural selection i guess... 🤣
Our local race track has a few races open to anyone for a small fee. Under $100 from what i remember. Our local drag strip on Friday nights will cost you $20 to enter and race against other street cars.
“Subaru owners need to get a real platform, grow up and get something that’s rwd” Leave me and my Bugeye sti alone. It sounds cool, has a cute lil face, and is scary how hard I can push it into some corners.
Yeah not to mention they hit other cars a lot doing shit like burnouts and you can’t call these people out because oh boy, the majority are POC and you’re now a racist
I’m a life long car/motorcycle enthusiast. In my mid 30s, at the track or out in the mountains riding every single week. I can give a million wonderful stories relating to cars, and some of the people I’ve met over the years. But the current trends are beyond dumb. It makes me hate car people at large. I live in a growing city, and cannot go 15 minutes without hearing a straight piped car revving, or some dumb car with a burble tune. Let alone how these idiots drive. Losers
Omg finally someone notices the car culture is getting “sidetracked”!! It’s a shame but it’s a lot of kids that can get fast cars we could not get for a first car!!
12:35 The absolutely 100% perfect description of the Tesla supporters I see in the comments section of videos of a Tesla losing fair and square to a none EV at the drag strip.
Street takeovers also known as “sideshows” has been happening for decades in the Bay Area. I don’t think it’s never really gonna go away. As long as someone is swinging it, someone else is going to watch.
"You're dumping money..... and it might not even work" I laughed then cried at the fact my subaru has had money dumped into it and it still doesnt run🥺
![[UNCUT] "บอสณวัฒน์" แฉ! แหล่งซุกเงินแก๊งบอส ขยันผิดที่ไม่กี่ปีก็เข้าคุก l คนดังนั่งเคลียร์ l17ต.ค.67](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BL56qIfXYZM/mqdefault.jpg)
![โรงเรียนห้ามรัก โดนจับได้ตาย...!! [เอิร์นไดเม่]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4u02Sbr556Q/mqdefault.jpg)
So glad people are calling out the take over community.
Takeovers taint regular car meets and I hate it.
#saynototakeovers
Like its gonna do anything
Taint
Street Takeovers completely killed my hometowns street racing scene believe it or not. From 2010-2016 before I moved, There were street races every friday and saturday night unless it rained. Even during the dead of winter they still would race so long as there wasnt ice or snowfall.
But when I revisited in 2018, They couldnt be found anywhere and I eventually found one of the guys who would regularly race. He said that they dont have races anymore because those street takeover guys came and bascally caused so much chaos that police would take anyone in that they thought had been part of the street races. That and there was suddenly a lot of fights, gang members showing up causing issues, dudes cars being fucked with, they even had a few people get guns drawn on them because these street takeover dudes kept provoking shit and then retaliating when people had enough of their shit. Funny enough, this was when Dodge Chargers and Challengers began to tale off with being stolen and used for street takeovers/public endangerment. So my cities street racing club called it quits and they havent gone back to it since.
Also doesnt help that most of our racing spots are now built up and are fully built communities. But that 2010-2016 period was a great run and I had lots of fun memories from it.
@@BabaYagaRacing take over bmw d bags screaming at you then crashing... epic... WIth ya brotha!
Seeing takeovers kills my brain cells and seeing instagram reels of people "chopping it up" in traffic kills my soul... and it's always some young adult in a Hellcat financed at 30% APR for 8 years with a $1500 monthly payment lmao.
Yes.
This.
Dead on accurate
THIS
100% correct
Any vehicle being financed is financially and emotionally draining at the end of the day
I feel you 100% on takeovers. Please make a video about them. Use that influencer status to educate people about how selfish and irresponsible they are. I'm not against people having fun, but when you insist on having fun at the expense of society functioning, that's a serious problem.
yess @ThatDudeinBlue
The people that attend takeovers are too dense to see and comprehend stopping. Quite possibly the dumbest demographic of the car community
“Do it, do it, do it”
Yes!! And that’s always the excuse when you call them out… “we just having fun… chill”
Do it but go to an actual takeover to have a real perspective and first hand real footage!
True story; about 3 weeks ago I finally decided to head to a local meet. Given the state of the community I was expecting childish behavior, but I've honestly never been more embarrassed to be a car enthusiast.
Burnouts, revving, actually arguing with other people about their cars. One guy was getting shit on because he has an automatic. Another one was torn apart so bad for having rep wheels he just left. Somebody tried to rip on me because my car is on OEM wheels with stock suspension. Not jokingly, mind you. Straight up "You're not modified, you don't deserve to be here."
There was a collision when two idiots tried to out-do one another, which resulted in a fight. After the fight the guy took off in his (almost written-off) car, hitting a random woman who was just trying to improve her photography skills.
The car scene is a disgrace. I've had people get mad at me in traffic because I wouldn't race them. All I have is a 4th gen mazda with an intake, and a cat-back, but 700hp Hellcats will cut me off if I don't want to race them.
There's far too many people in the car scene with way too fragile egos.
This is the reason why I've stopped going to car meets. Nothing but little kids that ruin it for all us grown-ups lol
Same here! I used to go to them back in 2010 and that’s around the time takeovers started and that was my Q to never go back
Punk ass little boys in rice burners lol I'm only 21 but I love muscle cars primarily the oldies
Damn I wish I had some excitement at my local shows honestly. It’s all really old cars in perfect condition. And if you even as much as pull away from the meet in a spirited fashion you get a ticket.
Some of us was those kids at one time. Lol
@@petrolhead8851 q
When people say "oh yea I had one of those but I crashed it" saying it like it was an accomplishment, I have a respect for my cars, speeding everywhere and crashing is not cool
Yes, you should definitely do a video on takeovers. Us car enthusiasts already have enough "guns pointed at us" for lack of better words, from local politicians, police officers, the general public and the EPA. We don't need just one more thing to make us look bad like take overs. People get seriously injured and killed at these things, and it just makes the local community hate car enthusiasts and gives them motivation to discourage legal permitted meets, etc. For fear of them turning into a "take over" type event.
I wish there was something we could do about it... I feel voiceless.
Yup, my friend was killed at a takeover, not even one of us it was a non-car person that got mad and was zooming around. I'll copy and paste what I said in my own post but it's not even about cars anymore. "Here in the DMV car culture has been stupid well the car scene in general but especially here in the DMV. It's not about cars anymore it's about a person's race, sex, sexual orientation, or a language (Hispanics) they do or don't speak. Or if it is about cars and you OVERLY like cars you are hated for it. Or it's all about likes, followers, and clout chasing. Males in the scene act more like females AKA Regina Georges now. The girls now in the scene are the ones who are cool I have had no issues with females. It's the males now who are drama queens. Talking about people hating someone. When I tell my truth I'm crazy or playing victim I have a whole video on my experience in the car scene from the day I went to my first car meet. Yet to edit it but it talks about everything."
In my city, The Takeover crowd alone was what eliminated my city's street race scene. Our racing scene was very civil and inclusive. They welcomed anyone in who was willing to behave and just enjoy the meets/races like everyone else. But after I left for Denver, the takeover scene just kind of took over and became a serious threat to the group. All the takeover guys in my hometown were from the hood and they just began to cause absolute chaos every meet and eventually got it disbanded due to threats with guns and them fucking with other racers cars while they werent close to their cars. Along with other stuff that just elevated the over all liability with them around.
@@TrVlogs82 yes to everything you said and I'm not even that much into cars.
@@remissiveslave Lol, thank you.
Drifting in an intersection takeover, is just something you do when you're 4 months behind on payments, and the repo man is on his way lol
I did repo's for like two years 😂 those cars were mine for nothing to blow tires off and jump them as far as possible for 1-3 weeks at a time 😂 I would get repo's so often I used them as daily's. I would park like five of them at my house at a time and fuck them things up lol
Takeovers are the CANCER of the automotive community 🤦🏻♂️
ICEs are more toxic to the community.
The EPA is at about the same level
@@remissiveslave same thing with Dot safety bullshit like not being able to wear a race harness on the street type bs
Partly why I've given up with cars
@@jayquickscope4446
facts,plus they sued our cars about the dirty air.But we don’t have to worry too much about the fuel cuz Formula 1 already developed biofuel,and it’s only made out of corn and food waste,and we can use this to turn tables on those electric “cars” xd
I'm not against street racing but I am against doing it anywhere romotely near a car meet. Ever heard the term don't shit where you eat?
Thank you, my group stopped meeting when the state patrol setup a statewide task force due to takeovers but we used to drive an hour out of the city to a 4 mile straight freshly paved area of road with nothing remotely lose to it besides this one parking lot in the middle for a hiking trail. We had permanent lights setup and never used to be bothered by cops before takeovers. We kept it real secret and you had to have a dyno sheet over 600whp to be accepted into the group
@@tomsellout9576 that shit sounds dope!!
Factsss. Leave the meet head out to the race spot and then come back to the meet
Building a car for yourself should really be one of the only reasons you’re doing it, building a car for validation of others is essentially just being a poser.
What if you need the validation for yourself
Well said
@@jaket7716 what if grasshoppers had machine guns? Tell you what, birds wouldn't fuck with them.
Exactly do it for your damn self
I started building a car for others and then I ended up enjoying actually working on my car for myself
I'm so glad you mentioned "i'm tired or respecting all builds"
Its so disappointing how big the whole "takeover" scene has gotten.
It's a cancer to the car scene
Takeovers have been around since the 90s yall just now seeing it cuz of social media
@@8.1b-c1i And it's stupid how big that side of the car scene has gotten now. That's the point I'm making lmao
@@BabaYagaRacing it really is! It kills it for the real car enthusiasts
@@FieldTestedSemenKun hate it or love it its not going anywhere 🤷♂️ just like all other car activities
YES! The key to a happy car build journey is to do it for YOURSELF and no one else. Don't build a car for someone else, build a car for you.
That should be the main reason why you're buying or building your dream cars, it's not always about competition, hype, brag & rights through power, numbers, stats and etc but rather the connectivity that you have with the machine and being able to express yourself as an individual!!! Sad to say that in this modern car culture, you could rarely see people who has this kind of mentality in western part of the countries and most of those matured and genuine car enthusiasts are in Japan.
"no replacement for displacement" from an engineering perspective stands true. If you build two engines that are otherwise identical in every way, the one with more displacement will make more power. HOWEVER just because you have a larger displacement, doesn't mean your car is faster.
Agreed. the fastest cars in the world are very large displacement.
*note I’m referencing alcohol drag cars
More RPM is another way without FI
Or responsive, certainly. Lots of horsepower has its joys, but I get more happies out of those more subtle things that don't need big numbers.
100% AGREED. I don't think he understood this one very well.
very true. power without control is nothing.
I noticed this vibe starting 5-10 years ago. Meets in the early 2000s, in contrast, were so much more open. Even though I was never super into American muscle, I was always treated well at these events.
Since about 2010, I’ve only been to one truly good car meet that had that same open feeling like I experienced 20 years back. It was one of your meets, David. Waltham, MA in 2017 when you met with subscribers (filmed a bagged Audi Q5 review then IIRC). great vibes, great energy, loved it! One of my fondest memories of a car meet in over 10 years. I wish you would do more of them!
Average car meets of the last few years? Unfriendly vibes, and I feel as if my brain cells are fading into the distant nothing, never to return.
I’ve had good experiences at cars and coffee, at least in my area
Old friend of mine once said "only an a**hole buys a Dodge."
(Looks at the takeover at the strip mall full of scat packs and hellcats doing constant donuts and burnouts)
Well he wasn't wrong now that I hear police sirens every time there's a simple little car meet and not a takeover.
Those are 550 credit scores people who do that, the 800 credit score dodge demon wouldn’t risk it
@Christian Erekson many times I’ve seen demons pulling this crap. not to say all are bad, but sometimes the wealthier people in the community are the worse ones.
@@manygatos885 while i get it.
using credit score as a way to measure someone's financial success is pretty cringe
@@ForzaMonkey demonss?! U sure it wasnt a redeye or regular cat? Id imagine thats a big risk with a demon.
@@Ungovernable_Schizo might be redeyes for most of them actually, but there have been one or two demons. I know their wheels when I see them.
The "takeover smooth brains" in Minneapolis seem to have a habit of using stolen cars, wrecking, and then ditching the car.
Yo another twin city native, I can’t agree more. I started avoiding all of non permitted meets. Not sure if you heard about what happened at cars and crafts last weekend but seriously f*** takeovers and the morons who participate in them. I hope they don’t cancel cars and crafts permanently
@@tomsellout9576damn never going to Minneapolis shit sounds mad lame, “permitted meet” gmfu
i'm from europe, reading all of these things about what goes on in the us makes me never want to visit, and not only about the culture but in general, social media painted a really shitty picture of the us for us and it's only getting worse :(((
@@crs0176 yeah as in meets that aren’t automatically broken up by police on site. I enjoy being able to grab some pizza and a beer from a local food truck while I hangout with buddies and enjoy the meet than have to drive all over the state because police kick you out of every spot within minutes of showing up. I did the race scene for 3 years and the takeovers have literally ruined it so bad it’s not even worth going. Yeah, I like permitted meets like cars and crafts at the local brewery, cars and coffee Saturday mornings at the local mall, you know events where the police actually setup a space for you to meet and you don’t have to worry about getting 50 tickets a year. Grow up dude.
My buddy went to one of the “race meets” last weekend and nearly got shot because everybody wants to be gangster these days. Some guys pulled up and opened fire cause they had beef with the guy in the car next to him. Our state patrol is now cracking down on ALL modified vehicles any time of day so my full caged track built 240sx I spent 60k on is a rolling target. All thanks to f***ing morons who don’t know how to act.
@@tomsellout9576 cry about it
Takeovers are just for boy racers.. thinking theyre living in a fast and furious life without recignizing the dangers of takeovers. Even the street racing and car meets in that movie seemed to have more class than these takeovers nowadays. Cars and coffee, strongly built meets with people who enforce no burnout rules etc, organizing cruises and photoshoots, thats class on public road when youre involved in a mass group. David said it perfectly. The cop will bunch a takeover together on how one person is acting it reflects the group and could get everyone in trouble because of a couple people. . Its different when a police officer encounters a person in total isolation from other drivers, practicing spririted driving. The police officer will have a different reaction to a single party.
Its not worth your license. Most people need a license to get to work etc. Its also not worth someones life
This is spot on. I love to slide my s14 around but I always do it in deserted areas or when there’s nobody around. We have a massive issue with takeovers in my city and one day I found a deserted Kohl’s with two buddies who had never been in my s14 before to do some donuts. The only car around happened to be an undercover cop but he let me loose fairly quickly after looking at my license. Never checked my insurance which was technically storage insurance at the time, asked my driving record and verified I was telling the truth about my one ticket and told me to go “do this sh*t in your own city” to which I replied yes sir and promptly left. I had a 550hp RB popping at redline and shooting flames but nobody was around so I wasn’t putting anyone else at risk. I think the cop recognized how much work I had put into the car and that I just wanted to show some buddies a without driving three hours to a track and sent me on my way
Reasons why people do takeovers
*Drivers*
They live in the city where there’s no real drift spots so intersections are the biggest area for them. All the other spots around the city are burnt so all the different groups need to come together at intersections so there’s enough people to block off the cops.(unless the cops come from 4 sides and trap you in the blockers will buy you time to make it out the other side). Or it’s the slammed trucks and Infiniti’s and dodges doing one wheel peels and thinking it’s the hardest shit ever.
*spectators*
Their car is impounded or broken. They like to get videos of (good drivers / people getting smacked / cars crashing into each other / cool cars / bad drivers / fights).
IM GONNA WRITE MORE JUST GETTING TIRED👋
I'm happy that multiple automotive TH-camrs have called out takeovers now. you, and Drew Peacock as far as I'm aware.
The takeover one is spot on.
Facts
I feel like the online car community doesnt call it out like we should. Though whenever I've tried on instagram, Ive been called racist since the majority of the people I see doing it just so happen to be POC..... So basically its pointless at this point. I remember when it was an Isolated bay area ghettos thing, but it eventually spread to be the main source of problems with street racing and the car community.
I'd rather the Fart can Civic bois come back than let takeover bois continue to be allowed to exist with the wider car community.
Like you said in a vid a few years back: "Don't be THAT PERSON that gets a car meet shut down."
Please call out the takeovers. People are usually being introduced into the car scene through these and it’s bad.
We need more influencers talking about takeovers. They've ruined SO many meets it's sad, and they're some of the reason for some stupid car laws in states.
Yeah? Then why does California have some of the strictest car laws but we’re the only ones who can do a sideshow right, cope
Probably the worst argument I've heard is the people who think when you get a new car, you need to IMMEDIATELY change everything about it. I recently picked up a mk7.5 golf r and I get asked a lot "when are you gonna get new wheels?" "Why haven't you gotten new wheels?" And it's baffling to some of these people that I want to wait until my relatively new Michelin pilot sport 4s tires wear down some more. They just think it needs to be modded to hell right away for it to be cool, or to solidify myself as a "true" car guy. It makes me think these people have never had other responsibilities, or they just think life is like Forza and you can just instantly change your entire car in a flash.
They would probably change the wheels and shove some budget crap tires on there.
Im enjoying my car in its bone stock form before I throw any power and actual mods to it, and it’s honestly great. Soak up the stock experience, then when you get the urge for more power, THEN you throw money at it. Just do quality of life and reliability stuff first.
More power means more breaking shit. More breaking shit means less time to drive it, and it also means less money. Lmao
I felt that, man. I can most certainly relate to that. I’m keeping my e36 stock until I decide to do some powertrain upgrades.
If you’re too poor to pay for upgrades just say that
@@halogod0298 Some folks aren't poor, rather we have other bills that need to be paid and we sometimes can't pay for mods. This isn't like forza where you can instantly install mods as soon as you get the car. Unless you are rolling in the dough and spend money on any modifications, you'll have to wait.
My least favorite car argument is the “built vs bought” argument it’s always said by someone compare a car that is built for the quarter mile vs a car built to do everything by a bunch of engineers
Takeover type of stuff got me out of the racing scene. We had our racing spots that were normally pretty tame and cops would leave us alone, then the Charger groups and Lifted Truck groups kept coming out more and more and basically making it a party zone. We knew that once those groups started pulling in, it's time to leave because within the hour if the cops didn't run everyone off, there would be gunshots. It makes me sad because I loved it, and the closest track is about 3 hours away, I'm not making that drive every weekend. The culture on the street was better and so was the racing. It just wasn't worth it to me anymore.
I think you’re just adding the “lifted truck” part for optics because we know exactly who we’re talking about when you say the “chargers”. I’ve never seen the lifted trucks people cause the same problems the “charger” people do.
@@willfarinholt92 scenes can be different depending on where you are
@@willfarinholt92I’ve seen it a lot, it’s not a race thing 🤣
@@christopherjohnston6343 must be
@@keyonkelly5693 at least for my area it sadly is, wannabe gangsters with financed chargers and challengers or dudes with clapped g35/37s aswell calling themselves "car guys"
Made me laugh out loud when you said “I don’t know what that was, ignore that” after the chest bump to save the manuals lol I love it
I got exited when I had my first real propper car to have fun in, a BMW 130i, decided to go on one car meet, pretty big one, saw some crazy cars but alot of kids and drunk people, decidede after 1 and a half hour to leave cause didn't want to stick around when everything got out of hand. So I went to my car only to see that someone has left a huge dent on the side of my car... That just ruin it all for me, this was last year, haven't been on a car meet since and not sure if I ever will attend one....
That's so sad. I'm sorry. I miss when car meets had 400 cars and no issues.
Try cars and coffee meets. They’re generally a lot more chill and since it’s in the morning (with free coffee and donuts depending on the meet) you’re less likely to get drunk idiots.
@@hatch450sx3 Our street racing group was fairly big, but it was so civil and inclusive. We could leave windows down, keys in the ignition and just leave our cars to socialize and watch the races. We'd have like 50 cars show up and all be filled with people, but nothing would get messed with. The worst we got was rules set at one of the Gas stations we'd all meet up at because we made it unusable lol.
But the Takeover boys invaded while i was out of state for a few years and they caused so much chaos and danger, that the entire race scene disbanded permanently. That and my hometown grew and enveloped all of our spots.
Find an organized cars and coffee. I really enjoy those, but I'll never go to a "meet" again. A similar thing happened to my buddies Focus ST at a meet.
@@GOPACKERSJT Good thing the only local meet I know of is mostly a bunch of old timers who hang out on a Sunday afternoon.
A rim is the rigid circle the tire goes on, a wheel is the rim and tire combo ready to hit the pavement. I'm 39, to old to change, and will fight to the death over these antiquated definitions! 💪
I still call it a rim :)
I aint even know this was debated. Rims are rims
Glad someone made a video like this, tired of those nasty hoodcats running around everywhere.
The idiots from the hood have weaseled their way into the wider car community/street racing scene and are making it a chore to enjoy. They've made Mopars a legit hazzard to your life if you own one and have become the symbol of takeovers. The dudes from the hood who rock Mopars are the sole reason why my hometowns main street racing group disbanded sometime after I left in 2016. They caused so much shit that it became a serious liablity to go to the races and they fucked with others cars.
But you never hear any criticism about any of this though on social media, in facts its loved and almost encouraged. But you know who I see Bitching and calling this dumb shit out the most?? I see POC calling this insanity out and complaining about how they cant enjoy the Mopar brand because dudes with 0 self control have made owning a Mopar a serious liability and making it more stressful to properly enjoy the cars and the car scene in general without someone doing crazy shit and ruining a good, civilized time. Remember when you could laugh and mock the fart can civic dudes out of a group or community?? Yeah, those days are over it seems.
Yeah just waiting to get repossessed
Not sure if I’ve ever heard “hoodcats” before, but I will forever use it. Ty
@@Highlander1432 I assume a lot of those cars in takeovers are stolen. It's no coincidence there is an epidemic of Mopars being stolen and Mopars wrecking at takeovers.
Real car enthusiasts aren’t a nuisance. Burnouts and donuts in a rural or abandoned area is one thing but donuts in a busy intersection is downright stupid.
Sideshows and people who do nothing but donuts in stolen vehicles are the most disgusting ghetto thing I've ever seen in the car hobby. At least the big wheel fad they did for awhile took pride in their vehicle.
Big wheel car culture (which in and of itself is an offshoot of the Donk car culture) is still alive and well. It’s no longer a fad, it’s been a thing for almost 20 years now. They even have an official drag racing organization now. A lot of those big wheel cars have a chunk of money spent on them and they can really move, so don’t underestimate them!
Kinda of weird how you just assume they’re stolen
@@envision8331 Context clues aren't hard to use for people with even an average IQ.
@@original__gmebvy Man, Donk Drags are...they're somethin' else.
@@RAM_C5what’s one clue that would make you think a cars stolen?
About time someone calls it out. Car culture is now clout culture which is frustrating. These newcomers need to go back to Instagram.
This is all it is. That's why everyone's cars are carbon copies of the others.
I miss being able to drive without being challenged by every so called “muscle car enthusiast” which really just means kids that convinced parent or young adult put everything they have into getting a shiny dodge ________. Then assuming they know how to drive them because the car salesman showed them how to do a burnout.
A lot of people are at fault for where the culture is heading. But no one wants to take fault when someone gets hurt.. I just took my dog out for a walk and I can see where the neighborhood A-hole in the white charger likes to do burnouts.. well last night he clearly hopped the curb.. where people walk their dogs or exercise… tire marks showing a complete loss of control leading into the curb… this guy has been doing donuts at least 3 times a week.
Doesn’t matter how well you do it if you aren’t in a controlled environment.
Long comment.. my bad but this video hit home big time lol I’m from the Motor City and living in Texas has been a crazy shift in the car scene for me.
I miss the Dream cruise and all the civilized car enthusiasts. 😅
I take offense to that
I know quite a few middle aged as well as wrinkled types in hellcats and similar. And a few of those are definitely instigating.
@@MaddJakd I drive a Hellcat and find it's quite literally everyone else is instigating me to see how they can keep up with the Hellcat as a benchmark.
@@saaaahduuuuude1228 I don't doubt such, but that's you though. Not a universal indicator lol
@@saaaahduuuuude1228 I think it’s safe to say that if you are in that car, people do wanna see what it can do… I think that’s expected, the problem I have with it.. is that it’s never at an appropriate time or place, always in the thick of traffic & never on a clear straight smh
If you think that’s ridiculous how about being in an almost stock Ecoboost mustang and catching all that attention from a car that’s clearly faster than you… it’s like they don’t know what other cars are and can do themselves. 😅
One of the absolute rediculous things I have heard as a mechanic.... A old man once told me the best way to break a engine in is to run it without water till the temp Guage is pegged then shock it with cold water to seal the gaskets 🤣
David, I Loved your reaction to "American Cars can't corner"...I could totally see in your face and body language what you WANTED to say, but you held back, and responded in a civilized manner. People that say things like that, have likely never driven stuff like a Focus/Fiesta ST or RS, or driven a well-sorted Mustang or Corvette or other performance-oriented cars.
I live in eastern europe, and "car guys" here are extremely braindead when it comes to american cars. They still think they're in the malaise era. They'll look at a 5.0 mustang and say that it's garbage but they get excited about some shitty diesel BMW lmao. It's sad.
It do be an old stereotype.
I mean the Focus and Fiesta were originally more a product of Ford Europe than Ford America.
But yes that stereotype is about 40 years out of date
Even back in the muscle car days, the pony cars were quite the handlers by the standards of back then. It was only the big block cars that are only good in a straight line.
@@JoseRivera-ym3wj yep, I had a 1978 Mercury Zephyr 2-dr notchback sedan, which as some people are still aware, is a fox body. I had Mustang GT Cobra springs, shocks, bushings, swaybars, links, brakes, quick ratio power steering rack, GT Cobra Turbine wheels with Bridgestone Potanza RE950's on them, and oh man...could that car ever corner, including over 100mph. It was actually lighter than my parents 2-dr Manual V6 93 Topaz...
"The developers of Grid Autosport have no idea about cars, the R34 just doesn't want to turn in this game. IRL the R34 is a drifting mashine!" - my buddy Chris.
No, he doesn't have a drivers license.
I cant respect all builds. Why would I respect a Ford Fusion with a giant chassis mounted wing, fake hood scoops, with big booby anime girls all over the side 😐
Because that’s their thing. It might not be your thing but so long as the driver isn’t claiming it as something it isn’t, then to each their own.
@@djhero0071 nah respectfully I'm gonna laugh at it
@@djhero0071 thats cringe
The way I see it, respect all builds doesn't mean respect all cars. You can dislike the car all you want, but you should respect the time, dedication and passion that someone has for their car, even if you don't like it. In other words, respect all builds means respect the person behind the build, not the end product.
Exactly. I’d kinda say laughing at a dude’s build even though it’s probably in poor taste enthusiast wise doesn’t follow that rule of “respect the person”. I’d only argue it should be mocked if said person of the build takes it up to be more than what it is, ya know?
One thing I learned early on by a wiser man then me was “ a great man will never have to tell you how great he is because he shows you every day” still live by this advice 25 years later. R. I. P. Dave!!!!!!
Even with gas prices rising, I’m pretty sure it’ll be the longest time until I get an EV. That being said if i’m given the opportunities to drive them I wouldn’t be able to say no
Idk why high gas milage hybrids seem to be in the way out in favor of full ev.
I bought a FWD 2.0L that sure beats the hell out of my RWD 4.0L I used to own. More power, lighter chassis, better driving response, and everything. I hate when people completely disregard FWD as a viable driver’s car.
I'm in a Civic Type R... best car I've driven in years.
Most fun car I ever owned was an ancient FWD-only '80s Subaru GL
Stop going to inter city car meets (which end up as takeovers) and use your car to actually drive it properly, on country roads not on highways.
100% do a video on takeovers, the car scene is really becoming full of clout chasers who make it bad for the rest of us who want to have chill meets and shows.
Has been for some time now, unfortunately
As one of the first employees at Road Atlanta. I had a 1971 Porsche 914-6. I used to scare the HELL out of girl friends as well as myself on the track. Spun out a few times / never crashed, but I always remembered what I did wrong in a particular turn and adjusted to make it safer. Ended up holding a very fast track time.
Worst argument I ever heard, literally lost brain power watching the guys story. “Park and chills are stupid because everybody expects you to have crazy rare parts and judges your shit, sideshows are for real drivers cause all you need is a rear wheel drive car and bars as a driver” Words of a clapped v6 mustang owner
*claped V6 dodge owners
He’s wrong about being real drivers, but Park and chill are stupid. Bunch of losers who only care about the retail price of a part.
@@mroversteer3739 *clapped v6 Camaro owners
Mopar culture and the general toxicity that comes with immature people in overpowered stock cars has caused me to distance myself from the majority of the car scene, tbh. Probably why I'm into old, quirky cars that aren't particularly fast, or ones that are just downright slow. Stance culture, too. Low and slow doesn't hurt people like kids in Hellcats do.
“Should we save the manuals, YES”
(hand gesture)
“I don’t know what this means” (referring to hand gesture)
That had me laughing…
"The K series isn't a real Honda motor like the B series" - From a guy with a blown up Prelude.
I swear to god buy an older car with smaller tires and lower limits and you will have more fun at legal speeds than you have ever had. Nothing beats getting sideways within the speed limit. Also the older the car the higher the chance the police will laugh or give a thumbs up.
Most fun I've had in a car was Rusty POS BMW e30 i bought for $500, so yes you're right
@@toddf93 That is perfect because I'm rocking an E30 318iS right now lol.
This is the best advice to anyone looking to get into the car scene. You will have way more fun in a modded Miata you built yourself than a R35 that is at impound speeds in 5 seconds.
@@toddf93 Agree with all this^ most fun car for me was an e21 1.8L 5 speed totally stock. Had to rev the crap out of it to keep up with traffic, and heel-toe downshift for every corner to help the brakes. Grocery run felt like a rally stage!
I'm more of a motorcycle guy now (ended up on this video bc of the algorithm I guess?) but the most fun car I ever had before embracing modern econo-boxes was a 1984 Subaru GL that had tires about as wide as a beer glass and 80 hp on a good day. I hooned the fuck out of that thing, only let it go because the frame rusted all the way through
One of the worst arguments I've ever heard was having your car get called a shitbox cause it's just old. And not shiny and brand new.
"german sports cars are just better"
cue me buying a brand new intercooler because the stock one was leaking into my engine almost causing a catastrophic failure.
Years ago before i really cared about cars i was talking to some dude at a party he's going on about his BMW. He asks me what i drive, i had a 2004 Buick Century. Then he proceeds to rag on my car saying that my american car is an unreliable piece of crap. Bruh, the car cost me $5000 and it never gave me any trouble. Meanwhile he just mentioned all the repairs he had to make.
I plasti dipped my wheels on a truck I used to have to keep the salt off them in the winter. People that claimed to hate plasti dip thought I bought new wheels and were complimenting me on how good they looked 🤣
I heard from a guy at work once " my dad and brother say changing oil is a scam" hahaha
In Europe we cant even meet without having cops check literally every single car
welp sounds like you live in an authoritarian country
America will be headed in that direction if they keep voting for Democrats
@@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455 Not really, Cops are much more chill than in the US except for car violations.. they are just hardcore when it comes to traffic laws.
Worst take is “ they do takeovers in California so we should do them here(Washington state)” proceeds to do one in a tunnel on the free way with cameras tagging plates on either side and out front the space needle next to a NEWS BUILDING( there is footage- it’s pitiful).
Same thing last year in Minneapolis, they don’t make the destination so the headline reads “street racers block Lowry hill tunnel” you find the same situation
The Hyundai N cars have fantastic DCT transmissions.
I agree with everything except your views on "no replacement for displacement" because I think it is true. Yes, technologies such as turbocharging and others allow small displacement, lower cylinder engines to match more powerful, large displacement, 8 cylinder or more engine, but if you take those large displacement engines and apply the same technology, the small displacement stuff can't compete. Take Greg Peter's Miata build; he has a 1.9L turbo 4 cyl in his car with lots of boost, and it just made about 500 wheel. That's amazing! Or something bigger, like boosting an M50/52/54 BMW engine, you can easily make 600hp. This matches engines such as the LT4 from the C7 Z06, or the Viper V10. But we all know what happens when you twin turbo a 8.4L Viper... 1500hp without even trying. Hell, Calvo makes Vipers with over 3000 wheel HP. And twin turbo lambos, etc.
I'm not discrediting building lower displacement engines, not at all. Greg Peters' turbo Miata build is one of my favorites in the car community, and I know people in real life who have turboed E36 325is that make 600 wheel. Those cars are amazing, truly spectacular. But high displacement will always win. Imagine two engines, one is a 2.5L cylinder and the other is a 5.0L V8. Give them both 10lbs of boost (CFM is more important here though). The V8 will theoretically always make DOUBLE the power.
When you say “But if you take those large displacement engines and apply the same technology, the small displacement engines cant compete” isnt that literally because the (replacement for displacement) aka forced induction, on the higher displacement engines the reason why they are dominating?
@@ethansmith8442 No, because displacement is the foundation for making power. Forced induction is not.
@@evanhooper1 ohh i get what your saying ok.
People saying "oh its only an rb20" or "should have gotten the a GTR" as they get in their 03 Cavalier with 2 missing body panels and drive away.
13:14 “American cars can’t corner”
The Dodge Viper ACR 2017: Am I a joke to you
The dark side of electric cars is a great video because barely anyone wants to talk about it and now days you’ll probably get “fact checked” and canceled for pointing out the obvious.
Oh, Youd be amazed at how much fake info on EVs there is. You actually have to dig to get any real data on them since almost every article or car video on them is skewd 100% in favor of them since nowdays, its frowned upon to say that gas powered cars are still the most viable option.
Yeah like how they love to conveniently act like digging for lithium and these other metals isn’t awful for the environment not to mention they need fossil fuels to run the fucking electric plants 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
People do tend to polarize about them to the point of believing very wrong facts. I think they're very good for some things but in my case, I don't actually do enough miles to justify one. If I had the budget, though, I think it'd be fun to convert something I otherwise like but never liked the engines for anyway. (I noticed the other night that even some anti-EV hot rod kids thought it would be really cool if I made like an electric Pacer or Pinto wagon, for instance. We happen to have solar here, so it wouldn't be *entirely* pointless even if the math wouldn't exactly compel it. :)
We're just getting old. This was awesome when we were 16 with a slapped together honda or small block chevy and just wanted some excitement. Now that we appreciate and understand the cars for what they are rather than just having one, stuff like cars and coffee is more fun.
Seeing as you live in Georgia and have probably seen the news. Make a video on what the takeover scene is doing out here to the car community especially in Gwinnett and Cobb county
when someone pays for it then maybe
I live in Tucker. it seems like every other night I hear the local goons burning rubber. think it was last week it went on for over an hour and a half. police were called and not one showed up. then gunshots went off to end the scene. dumbasses will inevitably ruin the car culture in the eye of the local community
Rim vs Wheel reminds me a lot of the Clip vs Magazine conversation... Manufacturers called small magazines "clips" in the early 90s but people are so rigid in thinking that they can't be bothered to understand that vernacular changes sometimes.
Go to the car meets in Tokyo Japan 🇯🇵
They’re well mannered and tame. I don’t go to car meets anymore. Just go to the track and see what my car 🚗 can do is enough.
And I thought I was the only one who felt the same way. Most of the car meets that I have attended had this whole vibe of kids trying to show off and be cool. While I was there to possibly meet some cool people and hear stories about their rides. I feel like I’ve missed out on the good times that I never had from the previous car community scene. I’m a more function over form track and autocross kind of guy, so I may be biased.
Anything with 20" wheels & up being called a donk 🤦🏽♂️.. a Donk is a 71-76 Impala or Caprice
Thank you….. honestly if a donk is done right it looks good imo
@@CIVICX3 True, true
I honestly dig this format. Just chillen and giving your take on peoples opinions. Just smoked a cigar and enjoyed the video. Cheers
One of the worse car arguments is that the modern V6 cars( mustang, Camaro, charger and Challengers, etc) are not viable performance cars in the V8 car culture.
They are decent cars, but the thing is that those engines are really not designed to be in those cars. A mustang, camaro, ESPECIALLY challengers and chargers are simply supposed to have V8 engines with lots of torque, since they are big heavy cars. A V6 engine like the chrysler pentastar would be so much better in a smaller, lighter chassis with better suspension than in a challenger. Again, those cars are not bad, but they're simply better with a v8 engine, a v6 just doesn't fit their character. I wish more manufacturers would make smaller sporty cars with RWD, but it's not financially viable because everyone wants a fucking suv or a truck nowadays.
Because they’re not
They aren’t muscle cars.
Cope
Exactly, I've never owned a sports car, but I'm saving up to buy a s650 gt in a few years. That said, Ecoboost and v6 mustangs can still be made into some cool builds. That 3.7 cyclone is apparently durable AF, and can easily handle 600 to 700 hp front what I've seen.
While I don’t really like widebodies/flares, I am doing them on my car for the function of track use of being able to go from fitting a 9.5 with a stretched tire to a 10.5 wide with a meaty setup, stock body is better imo yes but if the widebody is for function, I’m all for it
Agreed. Wide bodies are for fitting more tire under the car and that’s the only acceptable reason for using those kits, at least in my mind. When I see wide bodied cars with wheel spacers and stretched tires, I cringe.
It's all of the elitist or fanboys and trend setters that got into cars, who aren't enthusiastic in anyway with emotion and care that an enthusiast is. The lack of respect and the ethic of rich elite "only supercars and legends" or sadboi's who do every dumb mod and don't know crap about the car. To much bias in my opinion and no knowledge.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯
The arguments between parts lists when putting a turbo on an engine. There’s always some arguing in the Honda threads about using one piston over another, this oil pump v this oil pump, etc.
At this rate cops are gonna have to buy fleets of Scat Packs to stop these takeovers. Like bro, just fight fire with fire.
they dont even need that, just surround them with undercovers
Went to a pop up meet at a sheetz at the beginning of the season. Not 15 mins in was there 3 mopars and a Camaro with no plates line locking and doing donuts in front of open businesses. Everyone moves to new spot.. mopars show up start doing donuts.. repeat. Cops chasing everyone out of every spot we go to now. So annoying and makes it impossible to go to any meets cause you know they’re just going to get shut down.
You should make a video focused on takeovers and how they harmfully affect the car community
Tires get fitted to rims, tires and rims together are called wheels.
16:00. No. Financing a car is only a good idea when the car is already 5 years old or older, and like you said, get a good interest rate. It is never a good idea to finance a brand new Mustang for 28% interest and end up paying $600 a month for 8 years.
I drive an 02 corolla that I bought for 2 grand. only 98k miles. I save $500 a month compared to when I had my brand new Fiesta ST. If I still had that stupid car, I would not be able to afford my bills now with inflation. That is why you don't go into debt for stupid reasons like a car.
No, all it shows is you bought a car you couldn't afford.
Filling up tires to the max inflation spec on the tire instead of the recommended amount. ive heard it so many times "always go by what tire says"
Slamming cars! Im all for lowering a car but when the wheels are barely hanging on and you scrape on everything its to much and makes your car look broken and terrible. 2nd, all these tech youtubers that suddenly think they know everything about cars because they got a tesla. Finally, that the cyber truck looks good
All the Drag strips around my area, charge around $25 for the night. At least 4 tracks within an hour or two of the house. Run as much as you can. 2019 Mustang GT with the 10 speed?!? Yeah. Quicker than the manual. Ridiculous.
The first few min TDIB was going in !! I was shocked he held no restraints 😂.I’m tired of respecting all builds group is great .lately all they talk about is “peak poor” .
Who in the hell is TDUB? Is he a rapper?😂
I feel like one of the biggest arguments is people saying the scene is dead or that it's trash, when they don't even go out of their way to go past their local Walmart meet, go to a Tuner Evolution, or Clean Culture show, go to a local drift or HPD event, (I know there are certain areas that don't get these things, it's all growing though I hope it's nationwide soon) but honestly car culture is alive and growing imo
People shitting on Jeeps just because they're jeeps. Be more specific, go for mall crawlers and pavement princesses. There's 80 years of jeep history and owners, not all of them curb their wheels at Starbucks.
My neighbor works for AAA Top 5 makes that get towed off the road due to mechanical failures:
1. Mercedes
2. BMW
3. Audi
4. Land Rover
5. Chrysler
Notice what the top 3 have in common???
Funniest part about takeovers for me is when some idiot jumps in the middle of someone "drifting" to record them and gets hit and the driver gets the blame, like come on man if you are stupid enough to do that shit to get a clip then i would say you are at fault. The old saying: "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" fits so well in that scenario. Hope that Tiktok or Instagram clip was worth the medical bills and potential lifelong physical repercussions. Then again the whole takeover scene is pretty dumb in my eyes and seems to attract the lower I.Q. group of car enthusiasts. Natural selection i guess... 🤣
Calling them car enthusiasts is a little bit generous of you.
The driver never gets to blame, it’s a known rule that you don’t get in the middle unless you are willing to get smacked
@@halogod0298 Then why is it when you see the coverage the drivers are arrested and taken to trial?
@@TheDuckumz I don’t know, cause somebody snitches?
Our local race track has a few races open to anyone for a small fee. Under $100 from what i remember. Our local drag strip on Friday nights will cost you $20 to enter and race against other street cars.
*takeovers are stupid*
Your take on electric cars are 100%. Many people do not understand where the electricity comes from...
“Subaru owners need to get a real platform, grow up and get something that’s rwd”
Leave me and my Bugeye sti alone. It sounds cool, has a cute lil face, and is scary how hard I can push it into some corners.
Bugeye is my favorite subaru model lol
@@donniemagic9422 Bugeye best eye
i have a coworker that says his old 06 tiburon did 150mph cuz it didnt have a "governor"
Ive always said takeovers are stupid and would get clowned on for it🙃🙃 i dont get whats so hard to understand that theyre stupid and dangerous
Yeah not to mention they hit other cars a lot doing shit like burnouts and you can’t call these people out because oh boy, the majority are POC and you’re now a racist
They aren’t that bad. Everyone there knows the risk
Same reason why I don’t do group MC rides. Someone always wants to try to wheelie and drives over the median.
I’m a life long car/motorcycle enthusiast. In my mid 30s, at the track or out in the mountains riding every single week.
I can give a million wonderful stories relating to cars, and some of the people I’ve met over the years. But the current trends are beyond dumb. It makes me hate car people at large. I live in a growing city, and cannot go 15 minutes without hearing a straight piped car revving, or some dumb car with a burble tune. Let alone how these idiots drive.
Losers
I can understand this but the burble tune one is a 50/50 one because a lot of cars has a burble from factory
@@CIVICX3 Yeah, they sound stupid. It’s 100% artificial and not needed. Don’t be the asshole backfiring through town with a 250hp Hyandai
Omg finally someone notices the car culture is getting “sidetracked”!! It’s a shame but it’s a lot of kids that can get fast cars we could not get for a first car!!
12:35 The absolutely 100% perfect description of the Tesla supporters I see in the comments section of videos of a Tesla losing fair and square to a none EV at the drag strip.
They're fast till 90mph. A hellcat would decimate a Tesla from a 60-roll.
@@WeaponsGGPretty much.
i had a teacher that was like that, i was just like stfu
@@milkypickle9654I'd be thinking the same thing, LMAO.
Street takeovers also known as “sideshows” has been happening for decades in the Bay Area. I don’t think it’s never really gonna go away. As long as someone is swinging it, someone else is going to watch.
JDM fanboys acting like all 90s jdm cars are morally and functionally superiors to all other cars
"You're dumping money..... and it might not even work" I laughed then cried at the fact my subaru has had money dumped into it and it still doesnt run🥺