In my religion (Sikhism) Food for everyone is prepared while prayer songs are played in the background The food is called Langar, It is considered to be a blessing also everyone can come in Gurudwara(Sikh place of worship) and eat for absolutely FREE all of us regardless of who we are sit on floor and eat together
honestly that's always struck me as the most cool thing about sikhs by far. indeed it's likely the coolest religous tradition I've seen: not a sikh? fuck it, have some food anyway. poor? fuck it, have some food anyway. you the president of the country? fuck it, have some food anyway.
I can’t believe you talked about Gamelan! I signed up for a Javanese Gamelan course in college for the heck of it - and it was amazing. Went from a course to meet my humanities credit to a complete paradigm shift on culture, music.
Hey Adam! Love your content as always! Some quick things I want to point out before i hop in the shower with this audio playing in the background: - Collecting data on people without their informed consent isn't inherently a problem for research ethics boards (REBs) if the nature of the data collection is simply observation in a public setting wherein there's no expectation of privacy and so long as there is no identifying information. E.g., the number of people at the gym as a function of time of day. Perfectly fine to collect data in the aggregate like that. - Administering an electric shock is not a form of "negative reinforcement" even though colloquially, we might consider it to be a "negative" experience and it feels like we're "adding" something (probably why the intuition is to call it "reinforcement.") Reinforcement, however, means a contingency that increases the probability of a behaviour whereas negative means to take something away. Distinguishing between positive and negative, then, while distinguishing between reinforcement and punishement creates a 2x2 table wherein we have positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, positive punishment, and negative punishment. Positive reinforcement matches what I imagine we all intuit (e.g., give a kid some cookies for doing well at school to encourage the continued behaviour). Negative reinforcement means to take away something unpleasant in the environment (e.g., removing an unpleasant eyesore as a reward); positive punishment means applying something to diminish probability of future behaviour (e.g., spanking to discourage temper tantrums) while negative punishment means taking away something desirable to, again, discourage some kind of behavioru (e.g., taking away a video game from a child to discourage X). I only mention these because (a) I love your content, (b) iirc, you enjoy some amount of pendatry yourself, and (c) I think I'm qualified to speak on the topics I just did. Look forward to listening to the rest of the pod! :)
I was in Dublin this weekend and every pub having a live musician there at pretty much all times just did something for the experience and the mood of the people in the pubs that just playing the same songs without a musician present wouldnt have.
"I could make some communal rice pounding jokes, but I wont" The same effect was achieved here, though. I just imagined the joke possibilities and started laughing like I had just heard a joke.
That happens every time you say "I could make a joke about x" like people still think about jokes about x and you just seem less insensitive because you didn't make any jokes about a culture not your own, yet you still get the benefit of people laughing and getting the joke you wouldn't make
I think this theme (the later half of the pod) relates a lot to all the studies showing that gratitude increases the overall lever of happiness and sense of fulfillment a person may experience
I have a degree in music- it’s probably my biggest interest in the world and what I spend most of my time on TH-cam learning about. So imagine my surprise when I start watching this channel thinking that it’s very different from my usual fare and then learning that Adam is in fact, also a music major I was like “I knew this channel wasn’t as different as I thought from all the other stuff I watch!”
In highschool I was in drumline. My first two years I was on the bass drum line. We had 4 bass drums all different sizes and our parts were all separated out like you were talking about. This is actually very common for most drumlines.
while listening to a pod cast is incomparable to a conversation with someone, its nice to listen to someone with thoughts of the same enigmatic levels about what could be considered everyday things.
Man, when you get to go to a performance of organ music, composed back in that instrument's heyday, divested from the liturgical context and put on display solely for its compositional power performed on a real organ, it is nearly impossible not to have your metaphorical socks exploded off your metaphorical feet. That instrument in a room built for it is damned near COSMIC in beauty.
My church hosts performances of "mass" compositions separate from actual masses for the public because we have great acoustics, a solid (though technically a bit undersized, though we're working on that apparently) organ, and an amazing full choir. It really is spectacular. I had a Calvanist friend come with me once and he said it was the best music in a church he's ever heard. Lol. We have it once a month ourselves, too, but I do hazard a guess that the "much"ness Adam mentions seems like more of a rejection of the Church rather than of the music because it is spectacular.
Interesting point about the top 40 songs and consumption. I grew up in the midwest and worked at a Pac Sun for a cpl years around 2000. When I started we were able to pick the music played at any given time and were supplied with a huge cd binder filled with mp3s, I believe. There was such a wide range of music that I wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise and I loved it. I copied as much as I could but eventually they switched us to a corporate controlled satellite radio with mostly top 40. It definitely took a chunk out of the little enjoyment you're able to squeeze out of a corporate retail job.
Just a suggestion, these videos would really benefit from being divided into different segments or chapters or whatever youtube calls it. It would make it a lot easier to find a specific part of a video or a specific topic you discussed
Speaking of gross eating sounds, you may find researching misophonia interesting Adam. It is a neurological response to primarily chewing noises. Insufferable for the person with the condition, but far more manageable when you have a diagnosis. The reach of your platform would actually be a great thing for those with this condition if more people become aware. It is why I so appreciate you moving away from the mic to breath 😊
I'm reminded that I play mostly either '50s Buck Owens or else Throbbing Gristle in the post 12am no drinking hours as it drives away the kids who want to hang about
Interesting you note that German and French music subtly influence people to buy German or French wines, and they may not be aware that's happening to them. I am FULLY aware that listening to my Mexican construction coworkers music makes me want sopitos or carne asada.
In Cambridge UK we have the full spread, the 80 yr old guy selling cooked breakfast who clearly isn't tracking anything, to SmokeWorks that play loud Eruption by Van Halen as background music and have tiny year supply containers of that orange ghost chilli sauce if you want to walk home looking intoxicated.
Hi Adam, I wonder if the recent revival in the popularity on vinyl music is a response to the over abundance of music and therefore it’s decreased meaning or importance that you noted. People buy vinyl because they might want a deeper connection with the music, a way to make it more personal and meaningful. It also forces people to listen to larger pieces of music ie whole albums which I think also makes it more meaningful.
as someone who listens to music of this decade, no music has not lost meaning. but ALSO as someone who is on vinyl tiktok, the vinyl revival is more due to the vintage aesthetic of it
I wrote a theoretical study in college involving exercise and music measuring heart rate BPM and rating of perceived exertion (RPE). All exercises being the same (probably cycle ergometer for ease), variables being music BPM, music genre, user-preferred music vs scientist-selected, etc. Would have been interesting to perform, but alas I was just undergrad, and I don't think anyone needs the results desperately enough to fund it.
10:00 a similar very specific instance of music being broken up in the US is in marching band bass drum music. You typically have 5 people all with bass drums of varying size and you have a percussive melody that is split up between the 5 drums and each person has to play their part perfectly in time to get the music to sound correct. It’s an incredibly hard thing to do and of the coolest niche areas of music I think. A good example is this: th-cam.com/video/ZDvDy4nGU24/w-d-xo.html
Music in grocery store affects me. When music is good, I stay longer and buy less. I'm like in a library and look for every products and read a lot of them, having a good time thinking about food and the world.
Pedantic comment: change ringing and handbell choirs aren’t the same thing. Change ringing involves large church bells (by pulling ropes) that ring different permutations of pitches that don’t really make a distinguishable melody. Cool math involved and a nice plot point in a Dorothy Sayers novel. Hand bell choirs is what you described. I hope you don’t mind my pedantic comment and perhaps find it interesting.
For a counterpoint: At my own Southern-Minnesota Chipotle, the vast majority of my visits the past 2 years have pointed to a Chipotle burrito taking longer to prepare than it takes to listen to an Adam Ragusea podcast.
In the korean remake of Fated to Love You they do make the rice-pounding joke, in fact they show rice pounding instead of other activities that can't be shown on day tv screens.
Two of my all-time favorite commercials were specific Grey Poupon commercials. One had the back and forth being the other aghast at the other's choice of meal to put the mustard on (a wiener, his word, and baloney sandwich). Each defend their choice by fancifying the particular meal saying it's a frankfurter and the other a bologna (pronounced fancy) and then one pulls away, saying under his breath, "baloney!" The other quips, equally under his breath, "wiener!" The second was the typical, "do you have any Grey Poupon?" with the other saying the typical response, "but, of course." Except he doesn't hand the jar out the window to the other man, he just waves his driver on to which the first looks shocked, and I may be misremembering, his monocle falls off.
enjoyed your pod-caste.... it made me think about present day access to food. Question: at state fairs etc. are food competitions, like cherry pie eating contests or hotdog contests notoriously American, or is it an older custom and why?
It's the humidity, ruins everything. There is no word for 'crisp' on Ferenginar. We used those push vacuums at the movie theater I worked at. This was many years ago, but I still saw them last time I saw a movie in a theater. Yeah, carpet + slurpee + popcorn == no fun.
I'm amazed that you ended the pod on how boredom leads to excess of food and music, and didn't even make the connection between your triad of excess and the masquerade balls of the Victorian era :)
Been ditching politics content for Adam in my day to day ingesting of yt. I love thé nuanced thoughts of Adam when considering complex questions invoking race, culture, and socioeconomics.
I find myself listening to good ole classic rock or punk rock whenever I cook. I gotta move around quickly while I work, so I need something to keep me amped up and hustling around. For more chill hangouts, I might play some country or reggae to entertain guests.
If someone offered me dinner as part of a study, I would ask point-blank if they were studying something about the food, and if they might be feeding me something while lying about its ingredients. And even for a study of ambiance where they would absolutely do no such thing, they could glomarize, and then I would not participate in the study. So, “dinner on me” might be an easier ask in general, but knowing that people sometimes lie during psychological studies I would be *super suspicious* of it.
I went to a local brewpub looking forward to ordering a delicious calzone. When I got there, they were playing some reggae, which for some reason immediately made a calzone seem unappetizing... The burger was good, though. lol
I HATE loud music in a restaurant. I tend to spend FAR less at restaurants with music. The louder it is, the less I spend so I can leave sooner. I would rather have chatter spillover than top 40 garbage piped into my ears loudly to the point I have to yell across the table to be heard.
I play the cello and have been learning to cook, and even I take food and music for granted 95% of the time, despite know first hand the effort that goes into these things. If not even I can appreciate these things, how can normal people with far less free time be expected to?
Dunno how much you might dig the idea of change ringing but Connie Willis incorporated that into her Hugo award winning Doomsday Book. She's a fun time and available for interviews the last time I saw her if you have a notion
I personally find songs can be distracting in social situations. While it could be a good conversation starter on a date or something, catchy songs get distracting for me if I'm trying to have a conversation. I don't know how it affects my consumption in a bar or something but it certainly can hinder conversation for me.
Music is an interesting subject.. I'm part of the 2-5% of the population that doesn't really 'get' music. I never listen to it and don't notice it in movies unless I'm looking for it. All I care about when eating out is that it's quiet enough that my brain can ignore it, it makes exactly the same difference to me as people talking at other tables or the sound of traffic.
Hahaha the first example that came to my mind for a comparably difficult western musical genre was the boom whackers. I suppose the bells are more of a dignified example
Oh, too much volume when dining with others - even if I like the music - I won't be ever back with others (which when I am with others, I WANT to converse).
Music playing whilst I'm trying to eat is a big no for me. I've never found it conducive to a pleasant experience. I like music more than food, I think, and tend to concentrate on the music, and end up just shovelling food in, without actually tasting it, so I can enjoy the music. Also, you can go to places where the music playing is dreadful and/or deafeningly loud. I'd rather eat in silence, or chat with people on the table with me.
To add on to the bias in studies, you can get a different perspective on world events on Wikipedia by changing what language the article is in. Starts getting real fun when you delve into Soviet and post Soviet era controversies.
Carpeting isn't the only form of acoustics control in restaurants! Restaurants, particularly new ones with contemporary decor, really need to be much better about baffling! Spread the baffling word people.
Talkin about movies like they're real, without skipping a beat, is a good way to see if people are paying attention. But mentioning it is from a movie keeps the comments less-annoying, lol
Don't go to Texas Roadhouse if you want to eat! I guess it'd be good for losing weight. Their music is SO LOUD! Once I used a db checker there and it was 120 db!
10:00 gotta disagree, marching band/drum corps bass drum splits are also directly comparable to gamelon music, at least in the senses that you were talking about
"Start up/Cash" out isn't good for anyone but a very few very lucky people. Consolidation degrades culture. If YOU are looking for a podcaster to follow on the subject, I recommend Adam Conover.
I would argue with your conception that we don't appreciate music enough (at least compared with a pre-modern peasant). In those times music primarily use wasn't to dealight, but also to commemorate, worship or praying. Music as entreteinment (for the general public) started when we could reproduce it. Before it was highly linked to the practices and meanings where it was performe
i always thought adam looked like he could be a weeb. but playing in a relatively obscure asian music style in college is pretty weeb. like when you find out the preppy looking guy played lacrosse in college
uhm. i don't think music is there to cover sounds and stuff. we just like music. it taps a lot of buttons in our brain. i always have a song in my mind, like all the time. sometimes it's even annoying. but i've been a musician for ages so.. anyway, mating has a lot to do with social habits, we can study animals forever but what makes us unique is exactly that, culture. some people are loud, some people are not, we are a very vocal species though, we talk a lot and we are loud all the time. some people like multiple partners some don't. jealousy and love are very strong feelings. my point is, there is a lot of variation in our species, that's the reason we thrive. and art, like music, is made by us, for us to enjoy. in any situation. it's all related we can't split things.
Salt, and poison, and metallic, and explody with water. It's ok I'm not being serious :) lots of things are good in small quantities, and dangerous in large quantities.
"we don't get as much bad music anymore" Hmm, I guess, I don't even think a lot of that stuff that's "distasteful" to me is even "technically" good, it's like having a kid do 2 notes on a triangle and call it "good"
Before radio people used to sing during the day doing everything. They sang while they rowed, they sang as they reefed a sail, they sang as they wove, etc. We don't sing anymore, we listen. It's not cause modern wheat falls out of the chaff and rice don't. We can thank technology. Similar to memory and thinking. People used to use their memory, and often their brains to think. But now we don't need to and we just sit about watching youtube.
This is partially true, but too negatively biased. We used to memorize, word-for-word, poems and stories (and other things). When writing is invented and becomes commonplace, people stop doing that and lose their ability to do so easily. But it's not like a part of our brain just doesn't work anymore. It gets repurposed. Human brains are efficient; when something becomes redundant (like memorizing long texts) it stops putting in the upkeep for that ability. Writing is a better record than human memory, we came out ahead with it and now we can use that brainpower for something else. There are lots of downsides to modern life, but getting stupider is not one of them. You might feel that way, but science disagrees.
@@slicedtoad Misusing science. Evolution and science aren't a linear thing that is always heading to smarter. Human evolution isn't directed towards smarter and smarter. One could easily use history to show that isn't the case. As we see now, we repeat the mistakes as if we don't learn. We might advance technically, but as humans, don't see any advancement. Yes, one can say, well IQ scores blah, blah, blah, but that is a biased test.
In my religion (Sikhism)
Food for everyone is prepared while prayer songs are played in the background
The food is called Langar, It is considered to be a blessing also everyone can come in Gurudwara(Sikh place of worship) and eat for absolutely FREE
all of us regardless of who we are sit on floor and eat together
That is a beautiful tradition!
honestly that's always struck me as the most cool thing about sikhs by far. indeed it's likely the coolest religous tradition I've seen: not a sikh? fuck it, have some food anyway. poor? fuck it, have some food anyway. you the president of the country? fuck it, have some food anyway.
I read Sikhism, as Skyrim
Sounds awesome. Big communal meals is something I've often thought us in the west should get more into.
I always listen to Super Eurobeat when I have lunch and I only have 15 minutes to swallow an entire ham and swiss club in one go with coconut water.
I read an entire ham
Man of culture.
Loved the long discussion about gamelan. As a part Indonesian-American, I love when my family's culture gets discussed.
I can’t believe you talked about Gamelan! I signed up for a Javanese Gamelan course in college for the heck of it - and it was amazing. Went from a course to meet my humanities credit to a complete paradigm shift on culture, music.
Hey Adam! Love your content as always! Some quick things I want to point out before i hop in the shower with this audio playing in the background:
- Collecting data on people without their informed consent isn't inherently a problem for research ethics boards (REBs) if the nature of the data collection is simply observation in a public setting wherein there's no expectation of privacy and so long as there is no identifying information. E.g., the number of people at the gym as a function of time of day. Perfectly fine to collect data in the aggregate like that.
- Administering an electric shock is not a form of "negative reinforcement" even though colloquially, we might consider it to be a "negative" experience and it feels like we're "adding" something (probably why the intuition is to call it "reinforcement.") Reinforcement, however, means a contingency that increases the probability of a behaviour whereas negative means to take something away. Distinguishing between positive and negative, then, while distinguishing between reinforcement and punishement creates a 2x2 table wherein we have positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, positive punishment, and negative punishment.
Positive reinforcement matches what I imagine we all intuit (e.g., give a kid some cookies for doing well at school to encourage the continued behaviour). Negative reinforcement means to take away something unpleasant in the environment (e.g., removing an unpleasant eyesore as a reward); positive punishment means applying something to diminish probability of future behaviour (e.g., spanking to discourage temper tantrums) while negative punishment means taking away something desirable to, again, discourage some kind of behavioru (e.g., taking away a video game from a child to discourage X).
I only mention these because (a) I love your content, (b) iirc, you enjoy some amount of pendatry yourself, and (c) I think I'm qualified to speak on the topics I just did.
Look forward to listening to the rest of the pod! :)
I was in Dublin this weekend and every pub having a live musician there at pretty much all times just did something for the experience and the mood of the people in the pubs that just playing the same songs without a musician present wouldnt have.
"I could make some communal rice pounding jokes, but I wont"
The same effect was achieved here, though. I just imagined the joke possibilities and started laughing like I had just heard a joke.
That means you got the joke. :{
Is it a sexual innuendo? Or like, go pound rocks? I'm bad at this kind of thing.
for those of you who didnt get it, 'pounding' is often used as an innuendo for sex
That happens every time you say "I could make a joke about x" like people still think about jokes about x and you just seem less insensitive because you didn't make any jokes about a culture not your own, yet you still get the benefit of people laughing and getting the joke you wouldn't make
I think this theme (the later half of the pod) relates a lot to all the studies showing that gratitude increases the overall lever of happiness and sense of fulfillment a person may experience
I have a degree in music- it’s probably my biggest interest in the world and what I spend most of my time on TH-cam learning about. So imagine my surprise when I start watching this channel thinking that it’s very different from my usual fare and then learning that Adam is in fact, also a music major
I was like “I knew this channel wasn’t as different as I thought from all the other stuff I watch!”
Check out his Van Halen video whenever you get the chance. It’s one of my favorite Adam videos!
Noah is right. The Van Halen video is a top tier of Adam.
I had the same experience lol. Classical music major here.
In highschool I was in drumline. My first two years I was on the bass drum line. We had 4 bass drums all different sizes and our parts were all separated out like you were talking about. This is actually very common for most drumlines.
while listening to a pod cast is incomparable to a conversation with someone, its nice to listen to someone with thoughts of the same enigmatic levels about what could be considered everyday things.
16:35 "What would make this situation even better?"
"Fuc..."
"Music!"
"Yeah, music, of course!"
I think your bit on aesthetic inflation might be the best thing you've ever written for the public.
Man, when you get to go to a performance of organ music, composed back in that instrument's heyday, divested from the liturgical context and put on display solely for its compositional power performed on a real organ, it is nearly impossible not to have your metaphorical socks exploded off your metaphorical feet. That instrument in a room built for it is damned near COSMIC in beauty.
My church hosts performances of "mass" compositions separate from actual masses for the public because we have great acoustics, a solid (though technically a bit undersized, though we're working on that apparently) organ, and an amazing full choir. It really is spectacular. I had a Calvanist friend come with me once and he said it was the best music in a church he's ever heard. Lol. We have it once a month ourselves, too, but I do hazard a guess that the "much"ness Adam mentions seems like more of a rejection of the Church rather than of the music because it is spectacular.
Hans Zimmer agrees with you.
Interesting point about the top 40 songs and consumption. I grew up in the midwest and worked at a Pac Sun for a cpl years around 2000. When I started we were able to pick the music played at any given time and were supplied with a huge cd binder filled with mp3s, I believe. There was such a wide range of music that I wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise and I loved it. I copied as much as I could but eventually they switched us to a corporate controlled satellite radio with mostly top 40. It definitely took a chunk out of the little enjoyment you're able to squeeze out of a corporate retail job.
Just a suggestion, these videos would really benefit from being divided into different segments or chapters or whatever youtube calls it. It would make it a lot easier to find a specific part of a video or a specific topic you discussed
Speaking of gross eating sounds, you may find researching misophonia interesting Adam. It is a neurological response to primarily chewing noises. Insufferable for the person with the condition, but far more manageable when you have a diagnosis. The reach of your platform would actually be a great thing for those with this condition if more people become aware. It is why I so appreciate you moving away from the mic to breath 😊
I'm reminded that I play mostly either '50s Buck Owens or else Throbbing Gristle in the post 12am no drinking hours as it drives away the kids who want to hang about
Interesting you note that German and French music subtly influence people to buy German or French wines, and they may not be aware that's happening to them. I am FULLY aware that listening to my Mexican construction coworkers music makes me want sopitos or carne asada.
In Cambridge UK we have the full spread, the 80 yr old guy selling cooked breakfast who clearly isn't tracking anything, to SmokeWorks that play loud Eruption by Van Halen as background music and have tiny year supply containers of that orange ghost chilli sauce if you want to walk home looking intoxicated.
"That kind of subtle suggestion doesn't work on me!"
-type of person that the subtle suggestion does work on
Hi Adam, I wonder if the recent revival in the popularity on vinyl music is a response to the over abundance of music and therefore it’s decreased meaning or importance that you noted. People buy vinyl because they might want a deeper connection with the music, a way to make it more personal and meaningful. It also forces people to listen to larger pieces of music ie whole albums which I think also makes it more meaningful.
as someone who listens to music of this decade, no music has not lost meaning. but ALSO as someone who is on vinyl tiktok, the vinyl revival is more due to the vintage aesthetic of it
There's a carpeted pub here, on reflection it seems a bit of a crazy choice, although if you like the floor to be carpeted then it has a monopoly.
Ever considered doing a video about Mike Menzter? Super smart bodybuilder from the 70’s who explored the science of bodybuilding. Right up your alley.
I wrote a theoretical study in college involving exercise and music measuring heart rate BPM and rating of perceived exertion (RPE). All exercises being the same (probably cycle ergometer for ease), variables being music BPM, music genre, user-preferred music vs scientist-selected, etc.
Would have been interesting to perform, but alas I was just undergrad, and I don't think anyone needs the results desperately enough to fund it.
10:00 a similar very specific instance of music being broken up in the US is in marching band bass drum music. You typically have 5 people all with bass drums of varying size and you have a percussive melody that is split up between the 5 drums and each person has to play their part perfectly in time to get the music to sound correct. It’s an incredibly hard thing to do and of the coolest niche areas of music I think. A good example is this: th-cam.com/video/ZDvDy4nGU24/w-d-xo.html
Music in grocery store affects me. When music is good, I stay longer and buy less. I'm like in a library and look for every products and read a lot of them, having a good time thinking about food and the world.
Back on form :) Not about just a specific dish, pacing not too slow, not too downbeat or negative about yourself.
Hey Adam, Where do you get that backdrop ? gree nscreen or wallpaper ? Love to know ?
I love Debussy. I love listening to Debussy while I eat.
I also love eating Debussy.
As a person who was trained to create media events, one of the main things required beyond the ### was the indication that food would be available
Pedantic comment: change ringing and handbell choirs aren’t the same thing. Change ringing involves large church bells (by pulling ropes) that ring different permutations of pitches that don’t really make a distinguishable melody. Cool math involved and a nice plot point in a Dorothy Sayers novel.
Hand bell choirs is what you described. I hope you don’t mind my pedantic comment and perhaps find it interesting.
For a counterpoint: At my own Southern-Minnesota Chipotle, the vast majority of my visits the past 2 years have pointed to a Chipotle burrito taking longer to prepare than it takes to listen to an Adam Ragusea podcast.
In the korean remake of Fated to Love You they do make the rice-pounding joke, in fact they show rice pounding instead of other activities that can't be shown on day tv screens.
Two of my all-time favorite commercials were specific Grey Poupon commercials. One had the back and forth being the other aghast at the other's choice of meal to put the mustard on (a wiener, his word, and baloney sandwich). Each defend their choice by fancifying the particular meal saying it's a frankfurter and the other a bologna (pronounced fancy) and then one pulls away, saying under his breath, "baloney!" The other quips, equally under his breath, "wiener!" The second was the typical, "do you have any Grey Poupon?" with the other saying the typical response, "but, of course." Except he doesn't hand the jar out the window to the other man, he just waves his driver on to which the first looks shocked, and I may be misremembering, his monocle falls off.
enjoyed your pod-caste.... it made me think about present day access to food. Question: at state fairs etc. are food competitions, like cherry pie eating contests or hotdog contests notoriously American, or is it an older custom and why?
Putting carpets on the walls or under the tables is a good way to get the sound deadening effect without a difficult to clean floor.
6:06 is the single greatest Adam ragusea quote ever
Hey, I'm Angel! Thanks for a music podcast. Fellow music major here.
It's the humidity, ruins everything. There is no word for 'crisp' on Ferenginar.
We used those push vacuums at the movie theater I worked at. This was many years ago, but I still saw them last time I saw a movie in a theater.
Yeah, carpet + slurpee + popcorn == no fun.
Let's all take him to 3M subs after all of his hardwork ❤️❤️❤️❤️.
I'm amazed that you ended the pod on how boredom leads to excess of food and music, and didn't even make the connection between your triad of excess and the masquerade balls of the Victorian era :)
Always a highlight of my day to cook and listen to Adam :)
Love the Grey Poupon mustard reference! I'm just the right age to both joke about that ad and still associate the product as "classy".
I love how based Adam was at the end when talking about the "ham sandwich dilemma"
Been ditching politics content for Adam in my day to day ingesting of yt. I love thé nuanced thoughts of Adam when considering complex questions invoking race, culture, and socioeconomics.
I find music to be very enriching. It definitely doesn't feel like I've lost touch with it.
Hey Adam what are these low carb tortillas that are out now? I find I really prefer them to other storebought. Are they just really high hydration?
I find myself listening to good ole classic rock or punk rock whenever I cook. I gotta move around quickly while I work, so I need something to keep me amped up and hustling around. For more chill hangouts, I might play some country or reggae to entertain guests.
I also find classic rock especially good for cooking.
Why does Indeed only ever seem to advertise to employers and not people looking for jobs? How do they get people to send them their resumes?
Is Psylodump, Snild Dolkow, Chipzel, and The Algorithm spicy?
If someone offered me dinner as part of a study, I would ask point-blank if they were studying something about the food, and if they might be feeding me something while lying about its ingredients. And even for a study of ambiance where they would absolutely do no such thing, they could glomarize, and then I would not participate in the study.
So, “dinner on me” might be an easier ask in general, but knowing that people sometimes lie during psychological studies I would be *super suspicious* of it.
Wow.... Gamelan! I am even more impressed with Adam!
48:00 you completely missed the opportunity to play a tune there Adam..
And make your own research if the tune will help with the sales.. :D
I went to a local brewpub looking forward to ordering a delicious calzone. When I got there, they were playing some reggae, which for some reason immediately made a calzone seem unappetizing... The burger was good, though. lol
Even the idea of Reggie and a calzone sounds unappetizing.
It's like cognitive-gastrointestinal dissonance.
I would buy the Adam Regusea knife if I didn't already have three perfectly good chef knives already.
I HATE loud music in a restaurant. I tend to spend FAR less at restaurants with music. The louder it is, the less I spend so I can leave sooner. I would rather have chatter spillover than top 40 garbage piped into my ears loudly to the point I have to yell across the table to be heard.
It's terrible for people with hearing disabilities.
I play the cello and have been learning to cook, and even I take food and music for granted 95% of the time, despite know first hand the effort that goes into these things. If not even I can appreciate these things, how can normal people with far less free time be expected to?
Dunno how much you might dig the idea of change ringing but Connie Willis incorporated that into her Hugo award winning Doomsday Book. She's a fun time and available for interviews the last time I saw her if you have a notion
I personally find songs can be distracting in social situations. While it could be a good conversation starter on a date or something, catchy songs get distracting for me if I'm trying to have a conversation. I don't know how it affects my consumption in a bar or something but it certainly can hinder conversation for me.
Music is an interesting subject.. I'm part of the 2-5% of the population that doesn't really 'get' music. I never listen to it and don't notice it in movies unless I'm looking for it.
All I care about when eating out is that it's quiet enough that my brain can ignore it, it makes exactly the same difference to me as people talking at other tables or the sound of traffic.
Hahaha the first example that came to my mind for a comparably difficult western musical genre was the boom whackers. I suppose the bells are more of a dignified example
The super heavily smoked german bottled beer with the unpronounceable name is great.
Of course, enjoying food to music means you have to LIKE the type of music being played. Which will vary from individual to individual.
Oh, too much volume when dining with others - even if I like the music - I won't be ever back with others (which when I am with others, I WANT to converse).
Music playing whilst I'm trying to eat is a big no for me. I've never found it conducive to a pleasant experience. I like music more than food, I think, and tend to concentrate on the music, and end up just shovelling food in, without actually tasting it, so I can enjoy the music. Also, you can go to places where the music playing is dreadful and/or deafeningly loud. I'd rather eat in silence, or chat with people on the table with me.
To add on to the bias in studies, you can get a different perspective on world events on Wikipedia by changing what language the article is in. Starts getting real fun when you delve into Soviet and post Soviet era controversies.
Researcher: "What's with the naked aulos player?" Guy on Greek urn: "Dat ass!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're killin' me Ragusea, I love it!
Carpeting isn't the only form of acoustics control in restaurants! Restaurants, particularly new ones with contemporary decor, really need to be much better about baffling! Spread the baffling word people.
Talkin about movies like they're real, without skipping a beat, is a good way to see if people are paying attention. But mentioning it is from a movie keeps the comments less-annoying, lol
I would say marching bass drum splits are another western analog to gamelan!
Glenn Gould, the Goldberg Variations, goes well with fava beans and a nice Chianti
Don't go to Texas Roadhouse if you want to eat! I guess it'd be good for losing weight. Their music is SO LOUD! Once I used a db checker there and it was 120 db!
Hey, what's with the hate on the aulos? :(
85DB music would put off a lot of customers
I wished that munching would keep people from talking at the same time. Nice theory :-)
17:15 When he says "pluck the koto" while motioning for a shamisen-like position xD
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
THE MOSTLY PERFECTION JOB..... ❤❤❤❤❤
If you want to diversify more and more into music, I would be perfectly fine with it. Really enjoyed your Metallica video for example.
10:00 gotta disagree, marching band/drum corps bass drum splits are also directly comparable to gamelon music, at least in the senses that you were talking about
I like the sound effect in the last seconds of the video... 😂
Nearby jet engine would certainly distract from paying attention to the taste of food.
This was a really good episode
Music can also affect food coming out the other end - every time I hear Dave Matthews, I feel like I need to take a massive dump.
Same thing when I hear Shostakovich's Leningrad symphony or Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture.💥
"Start up/Cash" out isn't good for anyone but a very few very lucky people.
Consolidation degrades culture.
If YOU are looking for a podcaster to follow on the subject, I recommend Adam Conover.
also effects your shopping in a mall or grocery store
I would argue with your conception that we don't appreciate music enough (at least compared with a pre-modern peasant). In those times music primarily use wasn't to dealight, but also to commemorate, worship or praying. Music as entreteinment (for the general public) started when we could reproduce it. Before it was highly linked to the practices and meanings where it was performe
42:12 - try "Greg's"
this was great! thank you for sharing :)
Great episode!
i always thought adam looked like he could be a weeb. but playing in a relatively obscure asian music style in college is pretty weeb. like when you find out the preppy looking guy played lacrosse in college
Adam should try making feijoada
Hell Yeah, less totally unchallenging soft/smooth/bland/liftMusic rock/jazz.
uhm. i don't think music is there to cover sounds and stuff. we just like music. it taps a lot of buttons in our brain. i always have a song in my mind, like all the time. sometimes it's even annoying. but i've been a musician for ages so.. anyway, mating has a lot to do with social habits, we can study animals forever but what makes us unique is exactly that, culture. some people are loud, some people are not, we are a very vocal species though, we talk a lot and we are loud all the time. some people like multiple partners some don't. jealousy and love are very strong feelings. my point is, there is a lot of variation in our species, that's the reason we thrive. and art, like music, is made by us, for us to enjoy. in any situation. it's all related we can't split things.
The urban fellows drive by my apartment all the time sharing their nasty music with the whole neighborhood.
Salt, and poison, and metallic, and explody with water. It's ok I'm not being serious :) lots of things are good in small quantities, and dangerous in large quantities.
He made such a big deal about how shrill the aulos is, I thought I should check it out. I wouldn't say it's shrill. Reedy, yes, but not shrill.
Weird Al was fully aware of this effect
"we don't get as much bad music anymore"
Hmm, I guess, I don't even think a lot of that stuff that's "distasteful" to me is even "technically" good, it's like having a kid do 2 notes on a triangle and call it "good"
Before radio people used to sing during the day doing everything. They sang while they rowed, they sang as they reefed a sail, they sang as they wove, etc. We don't sing anymore, we listen. It's not cause modern wheat falls out of the chaff and rice don't. We can thank technology. Similar to memory and thinking. People used to use their memory, and often their brains to think. But now we don't need to and we just sit about watching youtube.
This is partially true, but too negatively biased. We used to memorize, word-for-word, poems and stories (and other things). When writing is invented and becomes commonplace, people stop doing that and lose their ability to do so easily. But it's not like a part of our brain just doesn't work anymore. It gets repurposed. Human brains are efficient; when something becomes redundant (like memorizing long texts) it stops putting in the upkeep for that ability. Writing is a better record than human memory, we came out ahead with it and now we can use that brainpower for something else.
There are lots of downsides to modern life, but getting stupider is not one of them. You might feel that way, but science disagrees.
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@@slicedtoad Misusing science. Evolution and science aren't a linear thing that is always heading to smarter. Human evolution isn't directed towards smarter and smarter. One could easily use history to show that isn't the case. As we see now, we repeat the mistakes as if we don't learn. We might advance technically, but as humans, don't see any advancement. Yes, one can say, well IQ scores blah, blah, blah, but that is a biased test.
@@RedshirtAfficionado Ah, the good old logical phallacy comes out from the weaker generations, or should I say, dribbles out.
Basis for most sea shanties - providing a rhythm for keeping a crew in sync as they raised a sail, turned a capstan, hauled in fishing nets.