@@timeaction7760 Iyo made a banger tweet on Twitter about how WuWa needs more glue (whatever that means) and people have been clowning on him for days now for it
I like this has no bs, just 5 people giving their opinions, would love it if it had more depth to it, like you could've asked each of them more series of questions and list out the conclusions of each
It’s just the beginning! 2025 is gonna have tons of collabs on this channel - no drama, just discussions about games we love. The first few videos are just experiments while we get the format down!
the glue is basically the CC that will bring together both the hardcores and the casuals and remove that gap between long-timers and newbs. it's not a single CC but it has to be a group of CCs that promote a platform that unites rather than divides.
Iyo was more articulate the next day, by when he talked with Saint. Does not mean his points were better. Two or three times Saint showed him how what he was asking is already in the game. But he was more articulate in how he spoke.
I think that WuWa combat is hard when you want it to be. For example, the Hologram. I don't know if it is because I am not fully spec-out, but Crow and Tempest Hologram is making my hand sweat too much at level 5 and above. Level 1 is nothing, but beyond 5 you need to turn on try hard mode.
A polite discussion about WuWa? Impossible! 😂 Kidding, good to see this out, we need more constructive discourse in the space. I would agree that WuWa's combat is very Nier and DMC-like, they pull from a lot of different games they're fans of. Me and my friends are expecting Royal Guard Zani now we know she uses a shield in the new trailer
I think mostly it's neir and dmc like also the pulled some from mgrr and some from sekiro, ghost of Tsushima etc but most part is from pgr which is neir and dmc combination
It's funny that they're talking about the influence of wuwa being mainly nier and DMC at the end of the video. I would hazard a guess that the franchises that influenced kuro the most might have collabs in PGR lol
3 Things WuWa needs to do, to reach perfection 1. Better writing, the current Story is quite mediocre even for Kuro standards. Look at the Character Quests, they are far better than any story quers atm. 2. Better Events, Gatcha have usually quite mediocre Events. Genshin had mid events, ZZZ has mid Events, Afk Journey has mid events. But i hope WuWa wont follow the trrend. After all, PGR had some big and fun events. 3.More character depth and player Interactions. - Currently the Characters in WuWa look beautiful and cool, but they lack personality. Most of them are quite generic stereotypes and have nothing going for them. - PGR did anything with character interactions players could wish for.
I respectfully disagree. 1) Story in 1.1 and 1.3 was excellent. Even if 1.3 is short. 2) Would you mind explaining what you mean by "better events"? Better mechanics in events? Better story in events? Better rewards in events? More frequent events? 3) Characters have personality and lore. From their design, that talks about them, to their iddle animations and walking patterns, to their companion stories. We do need more interactiins between the companions and general content around (eg: comments like those companions had during Mass Effect), and finding them in the world and being able to talk to them would be awesome (Mortefi, Sanhua and Shorekeeper are there, but only Shorekeeper feels relevant) So, Kuro are halfway there.
Don't bother replying this @SolaireOfToast everyone, he's a hater playing black knight on ww. That guy have no respect to everyone who dissaree with him and eventually say hoyo games better than wuwa🗿
@@christiabayu3325 You have no respect for other peoples opinions, since you just shit on them. Dont waste my time by responding. I am more WuWa fan then you. Have spend now close to 1000€ in this Game, have a max lvl 80 account. What do you have? Cmon tell me. You are just a mental child that cant accept criticism. Your Parents had one Job.
@@lesath7883 I respectfully disagree with the Story statment. 1.3 was even among WuWa community quite unpopular. Even some WuWa content creators called 1.3 out. I respond later on the other points
The more time passes, the more we see just how good of a developer-customer relations there is. Even the simple fact that they added skins as early as 2.0 and there's already a fully skill effect one. That's HUGE for these waifu games. I still have the usual gripes with any open world gacha: you do the great content, exploration, story, but then there's little incentive to keep playing and you have to wait for the next map or quest. Events are mostly fine aside from the horrible reward structure of the combat ones (pull currency locked behind whale stages), but the big draw is the content that will "run out" after a bit. WuWa is still an amazing game to play, the combat is smooth and rewards you for getting good, exploration is easily the best out there even competitive with paid open world games at times and visually it's just stunning. Those new maps in Rinascita are something else. Even if maybe not hardcore daily grind all the time, I can see myself playing it for a long while, especially with how fast the new maps and quests come out.
I agree. But they still need to cook better with the Skins. For the fact Jinshis Skin costs money, it doesnt even look that good. I am a Skin Collector and usually dont mind spending 20-40€ for a good skin. But the first two are... even a skip for me. I hope they cook better skins like in PGR
If you want to do a professional analysis of a game, you need to specify the areas in which you will rate that game...for example 01- Gameplay 02- Mechanics games 03- Graphics 04- Characters design 05- the story & scenario 06- Music & voices 07- Contents and content density 08- Updates 09- Gacha system 10- developers
The one on the lower right? Well, if he is used to Souks games, where the dodges don't have a time slow and mistakes are more costly than in WuWa, I understand why. But that is why I don't play Souls. I am masochist, but not a hardcore masochist.
Isnt that Ryuuku the one who went off on that school girl and loli rant ? in an anime game..... I hope they dont tell him Verina, Youzou and Encore exsist in wuwu.
I'd like to see Kuro build a huge community around their game. I am not sure if it is because I don't hang around the community (then again, I don't hang around any Gacha community), but I want to see a lot of comics, and more cosplays even at non-Wuthering Wave events like at animecon. I want to see more artwork, animations, and other things. They are doing good work improving Wuthering Waves, except for the annoying thing with every new character and MC because every character wetting themselves for the MC gets old fast. But anyway, I want to see them get bigger than they are now.
I hope they manage. They are planning to showcase some content creators. And when they lost TGA, the Discord mods swiftly stopped the criticism of the winning game, since they did not want to allow toxicity into the community.
awesome vid @Stix. I love it. But you should really ask guys like me or Foxsol for the non-glaze perspective. Only Ryuku is the one I know that hasn't really glazed about this game and gave an honest critique.
We want wuwa to get big. Get recognize by all game developers out there so that they will know how to be a great game developer. Because nowadays games are not build for enjoyment but for money, which is a sad truth. Example is activision from call of duty. Greedy MF's 😆😂
the hoyoshills must accept it once and for all Wuwa is the best gacha game on the market, the days of Genshin are already in the past, now with this new year in sight, everyone raise their glasses and toast the new king of gachas, Wuthering Waves 🎉😎
"Oh, I do live in Japan" Like that makes the snowflake who can't take criticism an authority. Anyone who introduces themselves and says something like that, to bolster their suthority, is not worth listening.
@ROMVS It is not a joke. It is posturing to validate his opinion. In fact, it does fall into the Appeal to Authority fallacy. Also, not everyone is his community. So, he is not saying that for his community only.
Wuwa is good game but sadly lack of polishness in many sector,especially animation in game so unnatural and weightless compare to hoyo and good aaa games,if this game have polishness this game can big like genshin
@@KJRMKP bro stop defamating the guy for telling his opinion, are you okay dud. They probably played enough wuwa to stand up and tell theyre honest thoughts.
All I will say is that I completely disagree with this opinion. The only part of WuWa that felt like it had lack of polish to me is the performance on mobile and also how it performed on PC at launch (this has largely been resolved).
If only they wouldn't have destroyed the game today with their recent nerf of event bars during an event, literally spitting on everyone's faces. Instead of making the game and events better, they just lower the score midway and say "fukk off". The worst gacha devs I have ever seen who can't even improve the gaming experience. 😢 Sad to see they have fallen this low today.
Maybe they have no time for it yet? I mean i get your point. WuWa is handling the Events awful. But thats literarlly the only thing they didnt do well, right?
That was the best thing they could do. The combat in the event was good, the scoring is the real problem. The mechanics was clearly stated if u read, "dodge, parry, & counter to get higher score". Now they that lowered the score, the only problem is player's skill issue and reading comprehension
@@Abraham00218 The Event wasnt good. Maybe harder with other characters, but my Xiangli Yao just made max scores in each room aside the last one, were i had 3900 points. Its just a brain off "hit boss, dodge" event. Its nice to lower the Score for casuals. But still, the Event has zero creativity. Its the most generic Boss rush in Existence. The hardest part is wasiting for 5 days until the rooms are all open hehe
@@SolaireOfToast Easy quick and dirty solutions, instead of spitting on people's faces: Stop timer between the end of the last fight per stage until the start of the fight in next stage. Just an example.
It's just one event, geez so emo, instead help by leaving good feedback, the previous tactical event was fine, they could also add more points for finishing sooner or make the bosses hit hard to force you to dodge
What do YOU think is the best part of Wuthering Waves?
best part is that it exist, also Merry Christmas, Stixx
KURO GAMES
Kuro, also merry Christmas
Devs listening. Imo, this is most important part of a liveservice game. Everything can be improved overtime, but attitude is hard to change.
Best part is the devs listening.
I'm about to glue all over Wuthering Waves.
🤨
the question is, which among the bros is the GLUE?!
lol 😂
Massive low fade😭
Um, can i ask a question about the meaning of among them is the glue? What does that mean?.
Gotta be Styx, he is the Glue Styx
@@timeaction7760 Iyo made a banger tweet on Twitter about how WuWa needs more glue (whatever that means) and people have been clowning on him for days now for it
I like this has no bs, just 5 people giving their opinions, would love it if it had more depth to it, like you could've asked each of them more series of questions and list out the conclusions of each
It’s just the beginning! 2025 is gonna have tons of collabs on this channel - no drama, just discussions about games we love. The first few videos are just experiments while we get the format down!
Hey Stix!! Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of this!
Merry Christmas!! 🎄🎁
Thanks for being a part of this and part 2!!
what brand of glue does iyo think wuwa needs?
Iyo Glue.
The one that he sells, obviously.
Negative glue.
bro is refering to himself with " we " , that alone is all you need to know ..
This is why we love you stix!
Hehe thanks man! I appreciate that!
@ anytime bro! Merry Christmas to you and your friends and family!
Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas!
Without the glue, this discussion would never happen. He is just him, he's the man
the glue is basically the CC that will bring together both the hardcores and the casuals and remove that gap between long-timers and newbs. it's not a single CC but it has to be a group of CCs that promote a platform that unites rather than divides.
The glue is here, peak content already 1minute in.
Iyo the glue omg 😂😂😂😂😂
Real question: Who of these guys provides the most "GLUE"?
Pause
Guys.. Am i crazy? I can understand Iyo's statement now..
Iyo was more articulate the next day, by when he talked with Saint.
Does not mean his points were better.
Two or three times Saint showed him how what he was asking is already in the game.
But he was more articulate in how he spoke.
Amethyst finally among the big table
He was in a stream with E-thin.
I think that WuWa combat is hard when you want it to be.
For example, the Hologram. I don't know if it is because I am not fully spec-out, but Crow and Tempest Hologram is making my hand sweat too much at level 5 and above. Level 1 is nothing, but beyond 5 you need to turn on try hard mode.
ok that intro is diabolical
hehe glad you appreciated it ;)
A polite discussion about WuWa? Impossible! 😂 Kidding, good to see this out, we need more constructive discourse in the space.
I would agree that WuWa's combat is very Nier and DMC-like, they pull from a lot of different games they're fans of. Me and my friends are expecting Royal Guard Zani now we know she uses a shield in the new trailer
I think mostly it's neir and dmc like also the pulled some from mgrr and some from sekiro, ghost of Tsushima etc but most part is from pgr which is neir and dmc combination
I am so excited for console release. The wait is nearly over. Will become my number 1 priority
Yessss who are you gonna main?!
yo is that iyo the glue, negative edge man
The Dev's is 100% the best part of Wuthering Waves.
Yup, the first game I’ve played where i feel like I matter
Thanks Stix for allowing me to be a part of this great conversation😁
Looking forward to be a part of any more you have in the future, too!
And part 2 of the video ;)
@Stixxy Come on man upload em allllll we had so many great conversations that day!
@@ryuukusensei I'm breaking 'em up, that way I have more videos with less effort LOL
Merry Christmas Stix
Merry Christmas!!
It's funny that they're talking about the influence of wuwa being mainly nier and DMC at the end of the video. I would hazard a guess that the franchises that influenced kuro the most might have collabs in PGR lol
Some of my favorite franchises too!
an unexpected collab, nice video
My only minor issue with Wuwa right now is that there no Sonata set option in the filter when recycling echoes.
nice vid. more of this with other cc's as well for part 2
Iyo the glue man LMAO
The exploration is the best part of wuwa
Yessss! It's phenomenal!!
Yeah. I just hope they kinda give us better puzzles. Right now the Chests are so random. We need more brain acitivity
@@SolaireOfToastthey could change the chest designs
Why is there a glue in there..
Because he needs more glue to get more views and ad revenue.
Merry Christmas to everyone ❤!
Merry Christmas!
no wonder this conversation felt so tight and stable.
i like how the beginning sounds like an intervention.
Wuthering Waves is the best gacha game.
next week will focus on the wuthering wave only🌹🐢
3 Things WuWa needs to do, to reach perfection
1. Better writing,
the current Story is quite mediocre even for Kuro standards. Look at the Character Quests, they are far better than any story quers atm.
2. Better Events,
Gatcha have usually quite mediocre Events. Genshin had mid events, ZZZ has mid Events, Afk Journey has mid events. But i hope WuWa wont follow the trrend. After all, PGR had some big and fun events.
3.More character depth and player Interactions.
- Currently the Characters in WuWa look beautiful and cool, but they lack personality. Most of them are quite generic stereotypes and have nothing going for them.
- PGR did anything with character interactions players could wish for.
I respectfully disagree.
1) Story in 1.1 and 1.3 was excellent. Even if 1.3 is short.
2) Would you mind explaining what you mean by "better events"?
Better mechanics in events?
Better story in events?
Better rewards in events?
More frequent events?
3) Characters have personality and lore.
From their design, that talks about them, to their iddle animations and walking patterns, to their companion stories.
We do need more interactiins between the companions and general content around (eg: comments like those companions had during Mass Effect), and finding them in the world and being able to talk to them would be awesome (Mortefi, Sanhua and Shorekeeper are there, but only Shorekeeper feels relevant)
So, Kuro are halfway there.
Bruh i disagree with the event part
Don't bother replying this @SolaireOfToast everyone, he's a hater playing black knight on ww.
That guy have no respect to everyone who dissaree with him and eventually say hoyo games better than wuwa🗿
@@christiabayu3325 You have no respect for other peoples opinions, since you just shit on them. Dont waste my time by responding.
I am more WuWa fan then you. Have spend now close to 1000€ in this Game, have a max lvl 80 account. What do you have? Cmon tell me. You are just a mental child that cant accept criticism. Your Parents had one Job.
@@lesath7883 I respectfully disagree with the Story statment. 1.3 was even among WuWa community quite unpopular. Even some WuWa content creators called 1.3 out. I respond later on the other points
Ik this vid was screwed the moment i saw iyo. He can singlehandeddly kara-cancel the credibility of others with his negative edge L takes
Now this man wanna play wuwa😂
The more time passes, the more we see just how good of a developer-customer relations there is.
Even the simple fact that they added skins as early as 2.0 and there's already a fully skill effect one. That's HUGE for these waifu games.
I still have the usual gripes with any open world gacha: you do the great content, exploration, story, but then there's little incentive to keep playing and you have to wait for the next map or quest. Events are mostly fine aside from the horrible reward structure of the combat ones (pull currency locked behind whale stages), but the big draw is the content that will "run out" after a bit.
WuWa is still an amazing game to play, the combat is smooth and rewards you for getting good, exploration is easily the best out there even competitive with paid open world games at times and visually it's just stunning. Those new maps in Rinascita are something else.
Even if maybe not hardcore daily grind all the time, I can see myself playing it for a long while, especially with how fast the new maps and quests come out.
I agree. But they still need to cook better with the Skins. For the fact Jinshis Skin costs money, it doesnt even look that good. I am a Skin Collector and usually dont mind spending 20-40€ for a good skin. But the first two are... even a skip for me. I hope they cook better skins like in PGR
amethyst abrams is the chad
They have a point
Nier automata+ stellar blade + dmc.
If you want to do a professional analysis of a game, you need to specify the areas in which you will rate that game...for example
01- Gameplay
02- Mechanics games
03- Graphics
04- Characters design
05- the story & scenario
06- Music & voices
07- Contents and content density
08- Updates
09- Gacha system
10- developers
That guy on the right is saying this game is easy lol 😂
The one on the lower right?
Well, if he is used to Souks games, where the dodges don't have a time slow and mistakes are more costly than in WuWa, I understand why.
But that is why I don't play Souls.
I am masochist, but not a hardcore masochist.
@@lesath7883 thank you for this reasonable comment sir
Wuwa is a great game that I love.
Same here man!!
I see glue
Isnt that Ryuuku the one who went off on that school girl and loli rant ? in an anime game..... I hope they dont tell him Verina, Youzou and Encore exsist in wuwu.
I'd like to see Kuro build a huge community around their game. I am not sure if it is because I don't hang around the community (then again, I don't hang around any Gacha community), but I want to see a lot of comics, and more cosplays even at non-Wuthering Wave events like at animecon. I want to see more artwork, animations, and other things. They are doing good work improving Wuthering Waves, except for the annoying thing with every new character and MC because every character wetting themselves for the MC gets old fast. But anyway, I want to see them get bigger than they are now.
They created the perfect relationship to destroy Balataro
Watch 2.0 live stream, the community program was mentioned
Bruh they already have a pretty huge community of pgr in china and in Korea same goes for wuwa
I hope they manage.
They are planning to showcase some content creators.
And when they lost TGA, the Discord mods swiftly stopped the criticism of the winning game, since they did not want to allow toxicity into the community.
@@VERGIL_A ah ok. Just I don't see that much from the community from outside of the Gacha community as I would see for Hoyo games
awesome vid @Stix. I love it. But you should really ask guys like me or Foxsol for the non-glaze perspective. Only Ryuku is the one I know that hasn't really glazed about this game and gave an honest critique.
It’s coming in 2 parts. I asked for the BEST and the WORST. The video on the worst aspects is coming don’t worry!
I’d be more than happy having you on next year though! I love doing collabs with other CCs!
Not for long when Goddess of Victory Nikke has Rapi Red Hood in the following update.
Hey I play Nikke too but your response doesn't make sense, who and what line are you responding to? Most can't read minds
this is great
Im gonna GLUE myself all over Zani❤
Tf is Liyo doing there lmao
Ikr😂
improve on? really the echo management system is too much RNG gambling and micromanagement. That's number one.
There should have been a GOTY for gacha game
We want wuwa to get big. Get recognize by all game developers out there so that they will know how to be a great game developer. Because nowadays games are not build for enjoyment but for money, which is a sad truth. Example is activision from call of duty. Greedy MF's 😆😂
All cloutless
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That sensei Guy is weird
Your weird, his takes are very helpful for the community
That Ryuku guy there made a couple videos trashing on gacha games, and now feels like an authority on them.
He also can't take criticism.
@@lesath7883 agreed
@@ROMVS yeah yeah next question ❓
the hoyoshills must accept it once and for all Wuwa is the best gacha game on the market, the days of Genshin are already in the past, now with this new year in sight, everyone raise their glasses and toast the new king of gachas, Wuthering Waves 🎉😎
Both are goated tbh. I dislike conflict
"Oh, I do live in Japan"
Like that makes the snowflake who can't take criticism an authority.
Anyone who introduces themselves and says something like that, to bolster their suthority, is not worth listening.
It's a joke because the community all knows he's in Japan, where have you been?
@ROMVS It is not a joke.
It is posturing to validate his opinion.
In fact, it does fall into the Appeal to Authority fallacy.
Also, not everyone is his community.
So, he is not saying that for his community only.
People are really sleeping on Korean Dubs especially in GFL2 😅
Wuwa is good game but sadly lack of polishness in many sector,especially animation in game so unnatural and weightless compare to hoyo and good aaa games,if this game have polishness this game can big like genshin
What a ragebait and missinfo.
😂 Keep it up bro... Polishness.... 😂 Do u even know what Polishness means... 😂 Get some life...
@@KJRMKP bro stop defamating the guy for telling his opinion, are you okay dud. They probably played enough wuwa to stand up and tell theyre honest thoughts.
Lmao genshin is polish? Those emotionless characters is a joke
All I will say is that I completely disagree with this opinion. The only part of WuWa that felt like it had lack of polish to me is the performance on mobile and also how it performed on PC at launch (this has largely been resolved).
Ryuuku sensei hates wuwa tho
nah bro has like 2 accounts ul 70+
I dont think he does, he just criticizes it, like. A lot
@@Eseree only recently
If you like something you notice the bad and want better for it, he wants wuwa to do better
@@iliasnox8974maybe not that was his opinion tho.
If only they wouldn't have destroyed the game today with their recent nerf of event bars during an event, literally spitting on everyone's faces. Instead of making the game and events better, they just lower the score midway and say "fukk off". The worst gacha devs I have ever seen who can't even improve the gaming experience. 😢 Sad to see they have fallen this low today.
Maybe they have no time for it yet? I mean i get your point. WuWa is handling the Events awful.
But thats literarlly the only thing they didnt do well, right?
That was the best thing they could do. The combat in the event was good, the scoring is the real problem.
The mechanics was clearly stated if u read, "dodge, parry, & counter to get higher score". Now they that lowered the score, the only problem is player's skill issue and reading comprehension
@@Abraham00218 The Event wasnt good. Maybe harder with other characters, but my Xiangli Yao just made max scores in each room aside the last one, were i had 3900 points. Its just a brain off "hit boss, dodge" event.
Its nice to lower the Score for casuals. But still, the Event has zero creativity. Its the most generic Boss rush in Existence. The hardest part is wasiting for 5 days until the rooms are all open hehe
@@SolaireOfToast Easy quick and dirty solutions, instead of spitting on people's faces: Stop timer between the end of the last fight per stage until the start of the fight in next stage. Just an example.
It's just one event, geez so emo, instead help by leaving good feedback, the previous tactical event was fine, they could also add more points for finishing sooner or make the bosses hit hard to force you to dodge
Negative Glue Kara Cancel guy is here.. XD
WAKE UP BABE!!! DADDY STIX POSTED🎉🎉🎉🎉
Merry Christmas, Ver!
@Stixxy MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
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