Excellent. Not long ago I had to turn my first spigot for a mill and I realized how different this was from bowl work and never did this. It took a little thinking as to what tools to use. I know you recommend starting with spindle turning but I didn't and was having so much fun with bowls I just stayed there. Cheers Take the dog.
Lee Waterman turning a spigot for a scroll Chuck can be difficult. I have changed my approach many times over the years using different tools. Yes I have a very hard time leaving my dog. Thanks very much for watching Sam
Ken Custis thanks Ken This symposium just seems to fly by. I really enjoyed demonstrating but I missed out on watching some of the other Turner's. It was great fun. Sam
Great video Sam. I thought I knew all about making spigots from Captain Eddie but you still managed to sneak in a couple of new things in. Thank you. Cheers, Ben
Great video Sam. Been struggling with truing up the tenon after drying a bowl. Don't know why, but never thought to use that gouge. This will do wonders. Thanks for sharing, Fred
Fred Graber thanks Fred I should also have videos on completing a rough turned to bowl. Truing up an out-of-round spigot on a rough-turned bowl is not easy----your tool bounces around a lot. Sam
Great review of some very important basics. Thanks for sharing. I really like your skew technique. I have to practice about 5-10 min regularly to get that light touch.
I learned a lot Sam. Thanks as always. I have tried more than once to make a 3 point tool but for whatever reason I never get the grind right. I watched your video on it and for some reason I can't get it right. Ugghh!
Tom Wilcox when you sharpen the point tool one of the cutting edges Will be looking right back at you from the grinding wheel. It must be right in the center. I am not sure how important it is to get all the bevels exactly the same. I think getting the angle correct is more important. Just keep at it and you'll get it thanks for watching Sam
Very good demo on developing the dovetail spigot, using either a bowl gouge, detail gouge, skew, and or a parting tool. The dilemma I usually have is, I think both of my ends are cut perpendicular to each end. Most times they are not. Yes they are flat, but, example, if I turn a 4" log until it round, with the bark off, the end may not be exactly true. So I guess my first step is to true up the ends, after I turn the log round. Maybe I need to semi part off the end so it is trued up, then make a spigot, while the blank is still between centers, then part it off, and then I can utilize the spigot that is remainng. I hope that makes some kind of sense to you. Thanks, Tommy
Tommy Schutz Yes, I think I understand. I would true up the ends as you say. Part of the problem is......what you look at is sometimes an optical illusion. It looks square or true but is not. Takes practice. Sam
Earl Rumble I assume you mean A recess for an expansion fixing. I don't often use this except for a plate or a platter. I have an easier time finishing the bottom of a bowl with a spigot. Not sure why you're getting a wobble??? Maybe you just need to tighten it more. Sam
Thanks for another fine tutorial, Sam. Learned a lot, as usual. But I do have to disagree with your choice of terminology, emphasizing that it’s a “spigot” and not a tenon. It’s not that the terms are interchangeable but that one term - tenon - is American English and ‘spigot’ is British English. Americans sometimes use ‘spigot’ because it’s the term used by British-English speaking chuck makers, like Nova and Vicmarc.
Kim I do agree that the Brits use the term spigot more than we in the US. Here is another great approach to the terms. I also read this in one of my comments. Tenon' is part of a woodworking joint that remains in the wood. Or is part of a glue joint. A spigot is temporary. Like like this definition....Thanks Sam
Sam I am turning a pedestal bowl from seasoned Walnut. It started a bit longer than the blank in this video. I could not keep the blank in the scroll chuck. I finally had to part the project into top and pedestal. I am concerned that it will not stay in the chuck in order to hollow out the bowl. I will also have to put a recess in the pedestal to accept the tenon on the bowl. Any suggestions as to why the piece will not stay in the chuck? I have followed all of your suggestions in this video.
Ray, the issue may be the scroll chuck you are using. Can you tell me which one you are using for this project? Also the jaws on the chuck may not "match" too well with your spigot. And if your spigot is contacting the bottom of the chuck and not the jaw faces-this may be a problem. Ideally, send me some photos of your chuck and spigot. You could e-mail them to samandcheryle@gmail.com Sam
Hi. I know these videos are 7 yrs old but still very valuable to me as a beginner wood turner. I am somewhat OCD and cannot find Fundamentals 6. Is this just me or is there not a number 6 in the fundamentals series? John
Yep, I couldn't find it either. But I did find a playlist called "fundamentals' here is a link- th-cam.com/play/PLL5-IWEcq6B_la3KQlXqp9EBQ2ZJpIzxG.html I may have not put in the # 6 in the title.....? just don't know. Sam
Thanks for the nice video Sam. I live in Canada and you mentions in one of your video about ONEWAY Tools> I want ed to ask you about getting a good roughing gouge, I'm mainly starting on square to round stock, i want to make nice handles for some of my old tools i have in the shop. I'm also interested in getting a modular handle to,...here's the link oneway.ca/products-category/turning-tools-handles/Mastercut%20Turning%20Tools/Single-Ended%20Gouges......thanks
This link does not work????? I would encourage you to make tool handles but the modular one are really goo. I do have one, Oneway tool handle and they are excellent. Sam
Thanks Sam, like i said I'm fairly new to turning, making the handles would be good practice too, what kind of wood do you recommend for tool handles? and what length of handle are ideal?...thanks again for your advice?
Just used this video to use my chuck for the first time. Excellent instructions and demonstration. Thank you.
Excellent. Not long ago I had to turn my first spigot for a mill and I realized how different this was from bowl work and never did this. It took a little thinking as to what tools to use. I know you recommend starting with spindle turning but I didn't and was having so much fun with bowls I just stayed there.
Cheers
Take the dog.
Lee Waterman turning a spigot for a scroll Chuck can be difficult. I have changed my approach many times over the years using different tools.
Yes I have a very hard time leaving my dog. Thanks very much for watching Sam
fantastic video sam learning a lot and having a great time things are coming out great I am watching every video thanks (Bill)
+Pearl Troup I appreciate that.
Sam
Thanks Sam for the great information, very well explained and demonstrated. It was a pleasure meeting you and your wife at the Symposium.
Ken Custis thanks Ken
This symposium just seems to fly by. I really enjoyed demonstrating but I missed out on watching some of the other Turner's. It was great fun.
Sam
A wonderful video. Really explains what many people say but never show.
Love these videos, Sam! Keep em coming and THANK YOU!
Sam, this another excellent video with good information.
Thanks Sam... Good stuff and well explained! All the best, Charlie
Very nice demo Sam.
Thanks,
Frank
Thanks Sam, Great information, very well demonstrated and explained, cheers Harry
The Little Garden Shed Workshop thanks a lot Harry
Great information Sam, well explained and demonstrated.
Take care
Mike
Mike Waldt Thanks Mike.....
Great video Sam.
I thought I knew all about making spigots from Captain Eddie but you still managed to sneak in a couple of new things in. Thank you.
Cheers,
Ben
+TeamWild Just saw this comment: Thanks that is high praise....Sam
Thanks a lot for this realy excelent and informative video. As a starter in woodturning i learnd a lot out of it.
Best wishes to you, Carsten
+Carsten Hüde Thanks for watching. Sam
This was really well explained and demonstrated. Good job.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
baconsoda Thanks very much Brendan
Sam
Great video Sam. Been struggling with truing up the tenon after drying a bowl. Don't know why, but never thought to use that gouge. This will do wonders. Thanks for sharing, Fred
Fred Graber thanks Fred
I should also have videos on completing a rough turned to bowl. Truing up an out-of-round spigot on a rough-turned bowl is not easy----your tool bounces around a lot.
Sam
A very interesting video again! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Take care. Hubert - Germany
hubert Ko thanks for watching
Sam
Very helpful, thank you.
Great review of some very important basics. Thanks for sharing. I really like your skew technique. I have to practice about 5-10 min regularly to get that light touch.
Mark Hazlewood Mark
Practice for the skew is a life-time pursuit.....I am able to cut out all my blunders
Sam
Thanks for the video
Thanks for another lesson Sam. You time is appreciated. JimE
I learned a lot Sam. Thanks as always. I have tried more than once to make a 3 point tool but for whatever reason I never get the grind right. I watched your video on it and for some reason I can't get it right. Ugghh!
Tom Wilcox when you sharpen the point tool one of the cutting edges Will be looking right back at you from the grinding wheel. It must be right in the center. I am not sure how important it is to get all the bevels exactly the same. I think getting the angle correct is more important. Just keep at it and you'll get it thanks for watching Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER I have printed this off and taking it to the grinder. I will get it right.
Very good demo on developing the dovetail spigot, using either a bowl gouge, detail gouge, skew, and or a parting tool. The dilemma I usually have is, I think both of my ends are cut perpendicular to each end. Most times they are not. Yes they are flat, but, example, if I turn a 4" log until it round, with the bark off, the end may not be exactly true. So I guess my first step is to true up the ends, after I turn the log round. Maybe I need to semi part off the end so it is trued up, then make a spigot, while the blank is still between centers, then part it off, and then I can utilize the spigot that is remainng. I hope that makes some kind of sense to you.
Thanks,
Tommy
Tommy Schutz Yes, I think I understand. I would true up the ends as you say. Part of the problem is......what you look at is sometimes an optical illusion. It looks square or true but is not. Takes practice.
Sam
Another outstanding video! Thanks so much. I tend to use a motise more than spigit. However, I still have wobble problems. Any ideas?
Earl Rumble I assume you mean A recess for an expansion fixing. I don't often use this except for a plate or a platter. I have an easier time finishing the bottom of a bowl with a spigot. Not sure why you're getting a wobble???
Maybe you just need to tighten it more. Sam
Very helpful Sam. Had another ‘click’ moment. Thank you (-:
Nice
het houtdraaierke hello again Het
Did this help? Sam
Yes
Thanks for another fine tutorial, Sam. Learned a lot, as usual. But I do have to disagree with your choice of terminology, emphasizing that it’s a “spigot” and not a tenon. It’s not that the terms are interchangeable but that one term - tenon - is American English and ‘spigot’ is British English. Americans sometimes use ‘spigot’ because it’s the term used by British-English speaking chuck makers, like Nova and Vicmarc.
Kim
I do agree that the Brits use the term spigot more than we in the US. Here is another great approach to the terms. I also read this in one of my comments. Tenon' is part of a woodworking joint that remains in the wood. Or is part of a glue joint. A spigot is temporary. Like like this definition....Thanks Sam
Sam I am turning a pedestal bowl from seasoned Walnut. It started a bit longer than the blank in this video. I could not keep the blank in the scroll chuck. I finally had to part the project into top and pedestal. I am concerned that it will not stay in the chuck in order to hollow out the bowl. I will also have to put a recess in the pedestal to accept the tenon on the bowl. Any suggestions as to why the piece will not stay in the chuck? I have followed all of your suggestions in this video.
Ray, the issue may be the scroll chuck you are using. Can you tell me which one you are using for this project? Also the jaws on the chuck may not "match" too well with your spigot. And if your spigot is contacting the bottom of the chuck and not the jaw faces-this may be a problem. Ideally, send me some photos of your chuck and spigot. You could e-mail them to samandcheryle@gmail.com
Sam
I am using a NOVA G3 chuck with 70 mm jaws. The spigot is definitely not contacting the bottom of the chuck. I will take pictures in AM and email.
Ray, I also have those jaws. They are awesome!!! I thought they looked familiar. Thanks, Sam
Hi. I know these videos are 7 yrs old but still very valuable to me as a beginner wood turner. I am somewhat OCD and cannot find Fundamentals 6. Is this just me or is there not a number 6 in the fundamentals series? John
Yep, I couldn't find it either. But I did find a playlist called "fundamentals' here is a link- th-cam.com/play/PLL5-IWEcq6B_la3KQlXqp9EBQ2ZJpIzxG.html I may have not put in the # 6 in the title.....? just don't know. Sam
Thanks for the nice video Sam. I live in Canada and you mentions in one of your video about ONEWAY Tools> I want ed to ask you about getting a good roughing gouge, I'm mainly starting on square to round stock, i want to make nice handles for some of my old tools i have in the shop. I'm also interested in getting a modular handle to,...here's the link oneway.ca/products-category/turning-tools-handles/Mastercut%20Turning%20Tools/Single-Ended%20Gouges......thanks
This link does not work????? I would encourage you to make tool handles but the modular one are really goo. I do have one, Oneway tool handle and they are excellent.
Sam
Thanks Sam, like i said I'm fairly new to turning, making the handles would be good practice too, what kind of wood do you recommend for tool handles? and what length of handle are ideal?...thanks again for your advice?
Here's the link again oneway.ca/products-category/turning-tools-handles/Mastercut%20Turning%20Tools/Single-Ended%20Gouges