Thanks Bart. Are we going to buddy read Mote in Gods Eye in the spring maybe? After reading this I'm really excited to see what him and Pournelle did with that one.
@ Hi. Yes. I can definitely do spring or sooner, free now! 😂 I have a buddy read I’m starting around 20 January and a separate one in February with Robin and Chris. Free now of after those 2, whatever is best for you.
@bartsbookspace I made a few obligations in January so I'll probably have to wait until later in Feb or March. Should I put you down for Mote in God's Eye?
I've been loving Omnivorous Reader's videos over the last couple of months so it's great to see the two of you connect like this. I agree that the aliens were the best part of Ringworld. Thanks both!
Thanks Jack. I've been watching Deb's channel for a while now, we seem to have very similar tastes. Yeah, the aliens were imaginative and great. Excited to read Mote in God's Eye now.
Do love "Ringworld" too, after I had checked out from reading after high school (except for study textbooks) for a period of about a decennium, this Niven novel and "Ender's Game" were the two novels that got me back into reading. Up until that point I was only watching SF series and films and thought that I was a visual type of person that could not read.
I think luck as an inheritable trait was floating around before the 70s, but the only other reference I'm coming up with is from Piers Anthony in the Xanth novels (I believe). I may have read it in a paperback anthology that would have put the original story somewhere from the golden age to the 60s. . . But I. . . I can't really remember. If I could just be wrong. Thanks Deb for the thoughtful consideration of the problematic bits. And thanks for both of you getting me to think about ringworld... .
Ringworld was one of my favorites growing up, I love hearing others takes (thanks) I recomend it to friends but always suggest they read Niven's short story collections, Neutron Star and Known Space, which introduce most of the concepts, Puppeteers, Kzinti, Long Shot, General Dynamic, The Outsiders... the Tasps is introduced in a Novela (Gil the Arm...) Known Space is the name given to Niven's universe where these stories take place, much like Heinlein's Future History, or Asimov's Robots and Empire (not sure what his universe is called.) I wonder who has the most expansive collection taking place in a single universe. (or Multiverse I guess)
Thanks for the information, I'm definitely going to go back and read more in Niven's Known Space. I've read all of Asimov's Future History in the past.
I absolutely love this book. This is such good coverage and discussion. If you enjoyed this try Jack Chalker’s “Midnight at the Well of Souls” for a similar but very original read.
I have heard about 'Midnight at the Well of Souls' and have been looking for a copy. The bookstores around here seem to have the 100 other Chalker books but not that one. I'll find is soon and give it a read. Thanks for the recommendation.
Weird. I wrote you a comment suggesting Protector, and it has disappeared! I came back because when I got to the very end of the video, I heard that you already knew about Protector, which I thought you might. Anyway, Protector offers all sorts of answers to questions that are raised and (annoyingly) never handled in a satisfying way in any of The Ringworld books. FYI.😅 I just thought you two would like to know. It probably should go before the first RingWorld Book. Enjoy!
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***Correction, when talking about the spin of the ring I said 'centripetal force' when I should have said 'centrifugal force'. My bad.
My local SF Cons disappeared in the 1980s. Glad you guys have technology to discuss topics!
It was a huge amount of fun, discussing a classic SF, thank you so much Ira for hosting.
I wholeheartedly agree. Such a great novel and a lot of fun to discuss with you.
@@sfwordsofwonder Look forward to the next one - around late January, early Feb I should have some time.
Interesting discussion Ira. I like how you go beyond the book here and talk about the author and his other works. 👍
Thanks Bart. Are we going to buddy read Mote in Gods Eye in the spring maybe? After reading this I'm really excited to see what him and Pournelle did with that one.
@ Hi. Yes. I can definitely do spring or sooner, free now! 😂
I have a buddy read I’m starting around 20 January and a separate one in February with Robin and Chris. Free now of after those 2, whatever is best for you.
@bartsbookspace I made a few obligations in January so I'll probably have to wait until later in Feb or March. Should I put you down for Mote in God's Eye?
Great review!
Thanks buddy, it was great having Deb on.
I've been loving Omnivorous Reader's videos over the last couple of months so it's great to see the two of you connect like this. I agree that the aliens were the best part of Ringworld. Thanks both!
Thanks Jack. I've been watching Deb's channel for a while now, we seem to have very similar tastes. Yeah, the aliens were imaginative and great. Excited to read Mote in God's Eye now.
Do love "Ringworld" too, after I had checked out from reading after high school (except for study textbooks) for a period of about a decennium, this Niven novel and "Ender's Game" were the two novels that got me back into reading. Up until that point I was only watching SF series and films and thought that I was a visual type of person that could not read.
Ender's Game was my first mind blowing SF read. Glad I finally got to Ringworld because it gave me that same sense of wonder. Cheers.
I think luck as an inheritable trait was floating around before the 70s, but the only other reference I'm coming up with is from Piers Anthony in the Xanth novels (I believe).
I may have read it in a paperback anthology that would have put the original story somewhere from the golden age to the 60s. . . But I. . . I can't really remember.
If I could just be wrong.
Thanks Deb for the thoughtful consideration of the problematic bits.
And thanks for both of you getting me to think about ringworld... .
Let me know if you find pre 70 stories with luck as a trait, id be curious to read them. Cheers.
Ringworld was one of my favorites growing up, I love hearing others takes (thanks) I recomend it to friends but always suggest they read Niven's short story collections, Neutron Star and Known Space, which introduce most of the concepts, Puppeteers, Kzinti, Long Shot, General Dynamic, The Outsiders... the Tasps is introduced in a Novela (Gil the Arm...)
Known Space is the name given to Niven's universe where these stories take place, much like Heinlein's Future History, or Asimov's Robots and Empire (not sure what his universe is called.)
I wonder who has the most expansive collection taking place in a single universe. (or Multiverse I guess)
Thanks for the information, I'm definitely going to go back and read more in Niven's Known Space. I've read all of Asimov's Future History in the past.
Thanks for your review! Boostah Spice would make a great rap performance name
Yes, indeed, haha.
I absolutely love this book. This is such good coverage and discussion.
If you enjoyed this try Jack Chalker’s “Midnight at the Well of Souls” for a similar but very original read.
I have heard about 'Midnight at the Well of Souls' and have been looking for a copy. The bookstores around here seem to have the 100 other Chalker books but not that one. I'll find is soon and give it a read. Thanks for the recommendation.
Weird.
I wrote you a comment suggesting Protector, and it has disappeared!
I came back because when I got to the very end of the video, I heard that you already knew about Protector, which I thought you might.
Anyway, Protector offers all sorts of answers to questions that are raised and (annoyingly) never handled in a satisfying way in any of The Ringworld books. FYI.😅
I just thought you two would like to know.
It probably should go before the first RingWorld Book.
Enjoy!
Thanks for the info on Protector. I will be reading more in Known Space for sure.